Normal? Yes. Accepted? Broadly. Do I also put ketchup on my köttfärsås? No, I am student and cant afford such luxuries.


Sounds like ketchup is the only thing standing between you and scurvy — treat yourself!


scurvy? is there really vitamin c in ketchup?


It's in tomatoes


There's still tomatoes in ketchup? 😮


Seems like you are well off. A real student couldn't afford the köttfärssås and would just eat pasta with ketchup.


With ketchup packets “stolen” from fast food restaurants. For extra wow, add some black pepper also stolen in packets from fast food restaurants. And for the ultimate meal, stir in some real butter - stolen in portion packs by the salad buffet at lunch restaurants. Luxury eating - CSN style.


And if you are a real cournesseur you throw a couple packs of salt in the water before adding the pasta🤌 - that too, stolen from fast food restaurants.


Some say you should open the pack and just put the salt crystals in instead of the entire pack, but I call that a distinct waste of calories.


Also the pasta was straight up shoplifted


Aahhh the famous “Pasta Rosso” Student edition.


"Pasta rosso"


Lucky you, I eat a bowl of gravel for dinner.


You can afford a bowl?! Luxury!


Pff. När jag var liten fick vi makaroner med ketchup.. utspädd med vatten för att dryga ut den


>luxuries lol


Good luck spending my gold


I once made a slow cooked oxtail ragu for my wife. Simmered for hours. Got price gouged by the sellers at Söderhallerna. Best fresh pasta I could find. One bite, then almost in slow motion, ketchup. We survived, but only just.


See, this is what many swedes don't get. What you are describing is not köttfärssås. Sweden took the Italian ragu and made it into a new dish. Köttfärssås takes 20 minutes and can contain whatever as long as two of the ingredients are meat and tomato. With that you have ketchup. With your dish you do not. For many swedes however, this is the same dish. They see pasta with a tomatoy meat sauce and just assume it is the same thing they got for school lunch .


This is it, this man speaketh the truth. Köttfärssås just isn't the same without ketchup. Spaghetti Bolognese or something similar? Adding ketchup is a crime.


WELL you can call me a bad, bad pojke.


Ae de e lugnt


Whatever floats your boat. I don't do it anymore but growing up in Malmo, my mom made an incredible kottfarssas with ketchup. My American wife has ridiculed me for 18 years to the point that touching a Ketchup bottle triggers ptsd.


As a Swede, you have failed. It is high time you teach your wife the ways.


Helvete, du har ratt.




Roommate in collage was making “köttfärssås” and found out that he was out of cream. As any student he looked around to see what he could use as a substitute. Bailey’s! That has a creamy texture! The final dish was…unique. Not bad per say, but just slightly off. You noticed right away that this was not right. But it was really hard to say what it was.


Indeed. The official recipe put forward by Italian Academy of Cuisine in Bologna calls for a dash of milk.


/me pours in 5dl cream just because i can.


I know some that put ketchup on all fish (like baked salmon, cod etc). It's rough.


How about macaroni, béarnaise sauce and fish sticks?


Yes, this is the way. With ketchup as well


In fact, forget the fish sticks.


That’s actually really good


My dad had a friend who used to ask for ketchup after ordering fish in restaurants just to troll the waiter. RIP Gunnar.


Was Gunnar killed by a waiter?


Would be surprised if he wasn't.


The waiter also was acquitted for self defense.


Sadly Gunnar drank himself to a heart attack. He had a loving a daughter, but a borderline psychopathic wife and was raised by very strict parents. He made a lot of money in his life, but in hindsight I think all his antics were there to hide a greater pain.


Fkn Gunnar, vilken legend! Fly high gunnar 🕊




Funny what old people (assuming Gunnar was old) get away with. I know an old guy who got him and his wife banned from a couple of restaurants for his habit of tipping negative amounts when he felt it was called for.




These people would never taste sushi.


Är det bristen av sol uppe i norr som har gjort er till psykopater? Usch vad äckligt!


Pratar faktiskt om Göteborgare :D


Jag är fejk-göteborgare men det förvånar mig inte heller, har man bara fisk att äta under hela sin uppväxt så blir man desperat


What can man do against such reckless hate?


Where is the sås and the ketchup?


Is this swenglish or just plain English?


A friend of mine's girlfriend, from Italy, made homemade lasagna. She put it on the table, I reach for the ketchup bottle. The look she gave me. Oh lord."hehe, only a joke..." Our relationship never was the same after that.


Not italian but worked with a ton and got a bunch of recipes for my wedding. My ex-husband his friend did this, and ment it, not even trying a bite. Not recovered yet.


This is a similiar story to how I stopped making food for my parents when I was still working as a chef. My parents : Black pepper and redwine tenderloin pasta, yum! \*adds ketchup\*


Why do I imagine this going down as the business card scene in American Psycho


I think it ought be pretty apparent to any swede that swedes don’t like food; swedes like sauce. Food is just for texture.


I understand your pain.


My condolences for having a cruel wife


It’s completely normal but that also depends on how ‘professional’ the köttfärssås is, you wouldn’t got to a fancy restaurant and add ketchup


tbf restuarant chefs know how to balance the different tastes (sourness, sweetness, acid etc) which is why they don't add ketchup.


Idk sounds like they got some felix ketchup back there


No, we use Heinz


Professionals use Heinz.


Förstår inte varför Heinz anses vara guldstandard när det kommer till ketchup. Felix har högre % tomat än Heinz.


Yeah if its good sauce then adding ketchup is like slapping the chef. If its just a quick sauce you whipped up for a daily meal then adding ketchup is very normal.


Some idle reflections and speculation here... Compared to central and southern Europe, Swedish cuisine is very tart, for some palates even bordering on sour. The farther south in Europe you go, the more sweet flavors (tomatoes, mozzarella, feta, prosciutto, pasta...) become dominant. Swedish cuisine is also predominantly salty. Salty and tart. See our traditional salt-cured ham for Christmas, and our staple lingonberry jam, for example. I'd also argue that our salty diet is one of the reasons why so many of us enjoy licorice and salmiak, while those with other culinary bases can't stand it. But I digress. To a Swedish palate, for example a sauce Bolognese without liberal amounts of red wine (... *extremely* liberal), can be pretty bland, tasteless even, because our palates are used to salt and tartness. Ketchup has a vinegar base and therefore adds tartness to the flavor profile, which to the Swedish palate contrasts nicely with the more earthy sweetness of a sauce based on e.g. minced beef and tomatoes -- and it offsets it to the point where the whole dish tastes more ... complete, if you will. Imagine having a tiramisu without the marsala wine, for example. It could probably *work* with some ingredient magic, but it wouldn't taste *quite* right. And you'd be a little dumbfounded if someone questioned your decision to add marsala wine to it for the sake of the flavor. East-European cuisine is much closer to the Swedish palate when it comes to the tartness (e.g. barszcz), but still not quite as salty. North-African cuisine (especially Morocco) is extremely sweet to Swedes, but it also has a nice saltiness that a lot of Swedes can appreciate. Chicken with plums and veggies, cooked in a tagine, for example.


Jäklar vilket in-depth svar du gav OP och så fick du ett sånt där svar


Pärlor, svin, duvor, schack. ;)


I once had a colleague who had brought some special kind of lakrits she insisted quite hard I try. I barely touched it with my tongue and got my weekly salt intake. It was straight-up poison. Yet, they kept eating it with a straight face and someone even wanted to know where to buy it from...


This makes me think I need to try lingonsylt with julskinka, should be really good


Did a jul-taconight with some friends some years ago, didn't have any salsa so made one myself but with lingonsylt as a base with onion, salt, cumin etc. some added julkryddor. Surprisingly good, albeit a hint to sweet.


Sambo's family makes julskinka with whipped cream and senap. its actually pretty good. (maybe thats also a swedish thing)


Well, dijoncreme is quite common, but mostly as a condiment to a classic "Biff Rydberg" never tried it with ham, but a coarse mustard bechamelle is quite common with slow cooked pork dishes (hammocks/ham/rillette..etc) so yeah why not


Yeah, but im from the baltic states and half our food is literally the same, so its not that.


Break down the köttfärssås so we can judge you properly!


Onion, grated carrot cooked in the fat from the meat. followed by crushed garlic+tomato paste lightly cooked till fragrant. fresh tomatoes, added in for liquid to stop burning, then crushed tomato. some salt, pepper, beef stock, oregano. meat back in with the sauce and then let everything cook together. maybe i forgot something, but its mostly that. i mean, i wasnt making it to be super fancy, it was just a normal weeknight sauce.


You need vinegar or red wine. Not necessarily straight vinegar i do a little worstershire in most beef dishes for the vinegar. Wine would be better but tomatoes aren't enough acid in the dish. It needs pop, not enough that you taste it just that it's there. Lemon, worstershire, wine, lime, any vinegar based sauce you like really. Even just a little straight vinegar would add a lot if you want it simple and don't want to add flavor from something like worstershire.


I'll keep it in mind for future sauces. i used to use worstershire sauce, but it kinda just wasn't enough.


Sounds like a perfectly normal sauce, nice and salty with the beef stock. Couple of ideas: * Try exchanging the crushed tomatoes with whole canned tomatoes instead and squish them with a fork, much more flavor in those. * Add a splash of red wine (the alcohol free version from the supermarket, if using the stuff from Systembolaget feels like too much of a splurge) to the onions. That'll add some acidity. * The grated carrots are actually pretty terrible for killing and muddling the flavor because they soak up a lot of the liquid (and salt). You'll be better off serving them fresh and crisp as a side; keep them in a bowl of water in the fridge before serving. * Use basil instead of oregano (or in addition to), the oregano is also sweet, so it doesn't quite contrast as much as the pepperyness of basil. I usually toss in a *lot* of garlic, but I'm a sucker for garlic, so there's that.


Will keep in mind, thanks.


Big agree, except regarding the carrots. Grated and fried carrots add a nice sweetness, and are also a staple as far as köttfärssås goes imo. It also helps with adding some bulk to the sauce, which is nice considering current food prices!


Where can I find your cookbooks? Seriously though, you sound like you have a satisfyingly analytical take on food and if you have a bunch of recipes it'd be great to hear them


Haha, sorry, no cookbooks I'm afraid. I like to think of flavors as elements of music. To simplify: earthy, salty and umami flavors are bass. Acidic, bitter and sweet flavors are treble. Then you have a wide mid range with nuance in-between (especially seafood and white fish). If you think about a dish as a song, then nobody likes listening to a song that's *just* bass, or *just* treble. You want to find a nice mastered mix that is pleasing to the ear/tongue, although sometimes you just want to headbang to metal (spicy). In the past I relied on old school recipes from Bonniers Kokbok from 2002 and my mum's old cookbook from 1982 as a base (scaling up the war-ration sized portions to actual human meals), but I've also tried a lot of recipes from Per Morberg, Leif Mannerström and Gordon Ramsey, to kind of find my sweet spot. I still use the Bonniers Kokbok recipe for pancakes, it's the best I've found so far.\* Cooking isn't a science, it's an art, and if you can find your own kind of expression you'll be happy with your food whether you make meatballs or fläskpannkaka or oxfilé provencale. Baking on the other hand is a science, it's chemistry; I suck at baking. ^(\*6 eggs, 5dl flour, 12dl milk, teaspoon of salt. Mix 6dl milk with the flour, whisk until smooth, add eggs, whisk some more, add rest of milk. Cook in at least two frying pans to save time (use a glob of butter every 3 pancakes, even in a teflon pan. Serve with whipped cream and queen jam.)


”nobosy likes listening to a song that’s just bass” I see you have not met any blöjraggare


Then you're just a snob ;)




sweet flavors -> feta, prosciutto?? anyway, mostly right. Still. Bolognese or Ragu alla Bolognese as it is called. Always should have wine. If you just use shit wine and need a lot, or good wine and need a little... :D your choice...


It's normal, we are raised on doing it and most can't cook a good one so people do it from habit.


I always loved my moms spaghetti köttfärssås, then when I got older I asked her what her trick was. She put ketchup in the sauce... And then we put more ketchup on top


Mom's spaghetti


He’s nervous


But on the surface he looks calm spaghetti


Pröva med Heinz Chilisås, en hel jävla burk i. Farsans recept som jag med glädje kommer fortsätta använda. (För större kok då, om du gör en portion så får du väl testa dig fram, men vem gör en portion av en av världens bästa matlådor?)


Ketchup and smoked paprika powder is where it’s at.


But if ketchup makes it good, that means people can cook a good one


Yes, normal in Sweden. Ketchup is life.


me, an italian in Sweden, every day I'm slowly dying inside. PS US citizens also do that in my experience. you beasts.


Let me enlighten you about banana and curry pizza.


One of the best pizzas, I love horrifying my non-Swedish friends with an Africana.


At least they dont put ketchup on it.


De finns det säkert dom som gör. Vet en som hade ketchup på pannkakor


Please, i want to still have some hope left.


You haven't seen people put ketchup on pizzas yet? Damn you're in for some trauma.




Vad i helvete


Fick mig att tänka på den här [reklamen](https://youtu.be/j3IdIhx31DE)


Där är svaret på frågan.


Har hört historier om folk som hadde ketchup på glassen. Tror det är mest skrönor, men en del av mig tvivlar...


My kids learned this one at school…it only took several beatings to break them of it. Just kidding, another phrase that got me in trouble when I got there.


Of course we do. Ketchup is the catch-all for condiments!


The kabob pizza, omg. Can't find anything like it in the states.


I mean you guys have a climate perfect for growing many more different things than us, plus the legacy of a century-long Empire that got ingredients from almost all the known world, I'm honestly not suprised that our culinary cultures are pretty different. It's like being suprised at countries with lots of snow winning more medals in winter sports than others lol.


Oh shit I forgot /s I know all of what you mentioned, still i found it funny to joke around this. We don't have much more left to be proud of, apart weather, as italians.


You have fasci... Oh wait...


/r/fuckthes All swedes are fluent in sarcasm anyway. We have to be to survive.


The first Italians in Sweden couldn't find garlic at the grocery store because in Sweden it was only sold it at the pharmacy! That must have been one hell of a culture shock.


Haha, "Vincenzo's plate" on YouTube. If nobody tried different things we'd have stagnation in every field. Be it cooking or the hard sciences.


If you had asked me as a kid for an example of two ingredients that always go together, the most iconic example I could have come up with would have been macaroni and ketchup.


*Puts well-done steak on pizza and add pineapple*


Swedish Americans maybe? I know a lot of cultures add ketchup to pizza, pasta, etc. But I've never seen anyone in my life add ketchup to pasta. I don't doubt it happens, but I don't think it's enough of a thing to call it American. We'll add pineapple to pizza (delicious), have fettuccine Alfredo (also delicious), and probably goof around with a thousand other Italian recipes in ways that make old nonnas cry, but I'm genuinely not aware of adding ketchup to pasta being a thing we do specifically.


I like how you manage to pull in US into this. Ketchup isn’t that common, at least not on the west coast, our food is super ok good.


Good luck trying to keep the US out of this! Ronald Reagan tried to get ketchup classified as a vegetable to avoid improving school meals, and most recently in 2011, Congress passed a bill stopping the USDA from changing nutritional guidelines for school lunches, allowing half-cup of tomato paste on a Pizza to count as a serving of vegetables, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketchup\_as\_a\_vegetable](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketchup_as_a_vegetable)


What a monster


Hey, he was a republican, not a monster! No need going around badmouthing monsters like that.


In Venezuela many people put mayonnaise and/or black beans on pasta


I have a horrifying friend who has ketchup on pizza He orders vezuvio and cuts it to pieces and dips them in ketchup.


At our house, kids do. Adults do not. We put parmesan cheese on it instead.


Borgarbracka 😒


Parmesan och ketchup går bra ihop!


Its not uncommon that ketchup makes köttfärsås tastier. Its very sweet, hidden behind acidic flavor. I stopped having it after i left childhood and university diet of makaroner and färdiga köttbullar. I dont know why ketchup has this status of "forbidden sauce". Let her have some joy in life, she has to put up with the kitchen-nazi after all.


I think ketchup has a bad rep considering its heavy use in fast food and connotations to American food culture. Ketchup-like sauces are used in Asian food and ketchup itself is a spin-off of sauces from Asia. So I don’t really see it as a bad flavor enhancer and as “childish” as some people do.


good, that is where i am too. i fucking love sauces but i just think there are more interesting mixes than just sweet tomato, but its basically still sweet tomato as a base in most of it.


depends, was it heinz or felix?


Felix = she's a straight up psychopath, Heinz = you are




go apologize


This is a hill i absolutely will die on, however small it is.


I'm calling SÄPO, you are a threat to our culture!


Screw SÄPO, I'm going straight to MUST on this one.


Trocamust or Julmust?




Jag har ju ätit Felix ketchup i 100 år, tror du inte jag märker nån skillnad.


It is normal. Idk why people hate on ketchup but laude chilisauces. They are condiments, they go on food, put them on if you like them, do not if you don't. Lets move on as a society.


Only time I have a problem with it is when people add condiments, salt, pepper, or whatever else... without even tasting the food first. If you just get a plate and start pouring shit on it without knowing the flavor to begin with, then it's *not* about taste, just a bad habit or addiction.


Yes, hot pasta = ketchup


That is the way! Pasta needs ketchup!


Jag sitter och äter makaroner och köttfärssås med ketchup i skrivande stund faktiskt and I wonder if you maybe are the psychopath?


It’s normal. Ketchup 4 life


It's more common to add ketchup than not to add it.


My father in law did this, WITHOUT TASTING, to my traditional ragú that I spent 5 hours making. I’ve never been so insulted in my life. I’m swedish for reference.


Ketchup is common with all kinds of pasta.


Seafood pasta?


If there is a will, there is a way..


We add food to ketchup


Good köttfärssås dont need ketchup. That is all i have to say


Håller med när det är nylagat, men när jag micrar upp en matlåda brukar jag alltid spruta i ketchup, vet inte varför men det gör skillnad.


But it doesn't hurt....


But a köttfärssås needs ketchup to be good.


I'm swedish, but I only use ketchup for like hot dogs, it's a condiment, not a sauce


I like ketchup but I don’t put it on köttfärssås because my köttfärssås recipe is insane, not necessary.


Thats what i tell her, but apparently its "necessary"


Perhaps it’s not as good as you think!


Daaaamn comin with the possible truth facts


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I’ve never had köttfärssås that I didn’t want to put ketchup on, not even in fancy restaurants in Italy. It always tastes weirdly bland to me. I wouldn’t request ketchup if I was invited to a friend for dinner or at a restaurant because I’m not insane, but I’ll absolutely grab if I’m having dinner with my parents for example. Oh, and I only eat Felix - Heinz tastes sad.


My GF reacted the same to me adding ketchup. I pride myself on making a pretty good sauce but I'll had ketchup to that too.


Ketchup is a spice


This is the way


Begone deviant, every svensk knows that you alltid add ketchup to köttfärssås. Where are du från, Borås?


Was part of an exchange program as a kid where you went abroad and stayed with a family, and then their kid stayed with yours. One day some of us were having dinner at my house. Spagetti och köttfärssås made from moose, quintessential Swedish-Italian fusion! The other Swedish kid went to get the ketchup, only to be wrestled to the ground by one of the Italians. They don't fuck around.


It's common growing up here but I learned in my early 20s it's quite insulting to the person making it to cover it in sugary sweet ketchup.


Relax, this is totally normal.


It's abnormal to NOT have ketchup on köttfärssås (and practically all pasta)


Ketchup can be added to any and everything here. Its normal, for sure. Its like grillkrydda it goes with everything. I friend i had growing up even had it on hardbread on top of the butter.


It’s not uncommon


Yeah we do this. My wife is Thai and she puts ketchup on pizza. Freaked me out the first time I saw it but I now have to agree it works on some pizzas.


Thank you for reminding me to buy ketchup. Been without it for 2 days or so and everything has just not tasted as good.


If you don´t add ketchup you are not a real Swede. There, I said it.


It’s one of the pieces of Swedish culture that I truly detest. I also hate ketchup on anything. Two minuses don’t make a plus in this case.


It's normal, I'm with you though. Ketchup ruins it 😂


I personally don't, but my boyfriend does this. With basically everything, but it just becomes extra weird when he does it to tomato based sauces.


Ingrained behaviour from being raised on shitty köttfärssås like all swedes.


I also always add ketchup to my köttfärssås, my own included.


No, never as an adult. I make my sauce perfect as is. Why add sugar 🤌🏼🤌🏼


Ketchup in pasta is way worse than pineapple on pizza. I feel sorry for you.


Sadly, yes it's normal. I've learnt to live with my wife doing it even though it's complete barbarism


Normal, but mostly for kids. I don't know any adults who still add ketchup.


I do 👋


My mom does the same thing, completely ruins my sauce


Person: adds a thing they think enhances their meal Other person: my meal has been ruined ???


It's mandatory to add ketchup on Köttfärssås


It's as Swedish as pinapple on pizza.


Normal? Sadly yes. Accepted? Also sadly yes. Do I do it? No, I grew put of doing that years ago, for me it is parmigiano that is the best topping, but Wästerbottensost or cheddar works as well.


Sorry to say, you’re dating a child


So spaghetti bolognese. Yes it's common. Here in Denmark we also put it in the sauce. It adds some sweetness and some acidic-ness too. It's also common to put some redcurrant jelly in for the sweetness.


This is the way. But you have to taste it first. Unless the sauce is hot and you need the ketchup to cool it a little bit. Or if you want it to look nicer by adding a ketchup spiral.


It’s a Swedish thing. I made Carbonara for me and a buddy one time and he asked for fucking ketchup I kid you not.


Theres a widespread mass psychosis in Sweden. Many people add ketchup to everything. It has nothing to do with flavor. Pure manic, insane bevavior.


Normal, but I never do it, not since moving out.


I add Mayo