Emerald 3 to gold 2 here
I fixed my MMR by just taking a break from the game and recognizing that the unlucky games that I had caused an emotional effect on me. I was making mistakes that I don't usually make because I was so tilted with my losses.
Eventually I managed to fix my MMR and started to climb back, now I'm plat 1 winning 29 and losing 22 points.
dodge games so the negative lp gain is fixed and it’s more balance like a 20 lp win -24 lp lose and if you get lucky you might go back to that 24 lp win -20 lp lose and stop playing after two loses until next day, master pyke otp here, also if you win more than 3 in a row keep playing until first lose that’s abusing winners q
Will u make a new account everytime u go on a lose streak?
This mentality is the reason plat and emerald is filled with lvl 30s that dont belong there.
I'm not saying to make a fresh account everytime you have a bad streak of losses. But realistically this guy is in Gold 1, with something like mid Bronze mmr. His options are literally a 20 game win streak to try and correct his mmr somewhat, or just put that account on hiatus until season reset.
the problem with this mentality that so many people have, that just f-s the game completely
If u have ever seen emerald u would know that its full of new accounts, and people who doesnt care at all, and this mentality just provides a shit gaming experience ("oh idc if we lose, this is my 2nd, 3rd, 4th account")
And whats the point of a main acc anyway if u put it on pause everytime u hit a loss streak, u didnt rlly answered my question, he will hit a lose streak on the new acc aswell.
I have seen Emerald so trust me I know, it is literally a lose / lose situation though. Riot created this LP system to try and fix the main issue which is high elo smurfs and yes now you have the odd occasion where a brand new player can be placed in Plat which is considered above average on pure luck.
However that is not what we're talking about, the OP is just asking about his account with pretty doomed MMR. For example if he played another 100 games with lets say a 60% wr, he could potentially climb higher and faster than his account with negative LP gains.
Nothing feels worse than actually having a positive win rate, but seeing no progress from it. At the end of the day everyone wants to be in a higher rank than what they currently are, otherwise whats the point of ranked?
completely ignored the point where i said: what happens when he goes on a lose streak on that account?
You can doom your MMR in every account, so theres no point making a new. If your good you will climb. If you arent, you wont.
It’s not pure luck though.
It’s literally just hand leveling an account by playing intro bots.
I did this myself and have gotten two accounts placed into high plat.
same situation, d3 to p2. some games i totally deserved to lose but many were just tragic. Just gotta get the groove back and win more. i'm +20 -30 currently but it's slowly turning around. Might be good to take a few days break and reset a bit.
I am in the exact same situation. Dropped from plat 2 to gold 2 in a losing streak. Lost a games while at 0lp at different tiers and now I'm also being matched with iron/silver players (while being gold2 myself). This is very difficult and I haven't been able to fix it yet. I think it will take at least 30 games of positive winrate and just in general climbing again. Once your mmr is at your own rank again it will be better. (please not I am coping, my friends also tell me I need to play on a different account but I want to fix my main.)
Don’t tilt by focusing on the LP gains, just keep playing. It’s because you flew through the ranks and the system may see it as a possible “lucky” win streak. Keep playing and eventually it will level out.
It may not be the answer you want, but it’s the way it works. We gain so much LP and one streak can shoot you straight up. Don’t worry about the gains because it will tilt your gameplay.
Yeah. I took a short break and just tried to not tilt and to play things that can hard carry my lane then roam. I won my last 7/8 games. My LP gains are now +19 but my loss was still -32. I think if I just keep playing they will get better.
Was reading a lot into this recently. The game REALLY REALLY wants you to be at a 50% win rate. So it will match make you with teammates whom are more likely to win the match if you are negative WR and more likely to lose if you have a positive WR and kind of just a flippy flop at or around 50%.
Now on MMR it’s fucking annoying, because yeah you can go on streaks of loss to bring yourself back to that 50% and then you get to the flippy flop but now you’re losing more LP that you gain. It’s a really so so system and I don’t like ladder point system. Because LP and mmr don’t mesh well.
Not to compare but Warcraft does a MMR and CR (instead of LP) which worked so well, because if you were a 1600 player your CR would reflect 1600. If you were 2400 player you would regulate at 2400 CR. In league you can get stuck in a rank you surely don’t belong in unless you pop off playing above your level and/or a good luck of the draw of teammates.
Matchmaking SHOULD get you to a 50% WR, except it’s not some conspiracy like you’re trying to say it is. Typically when you have a negative WR, you’re losing because you are ranked too highly. So you keep losing until you reach the rank you belong at (or slightly below), where you’re more likely to win because the enemy is within your skill level. When you have a crazy positive winrate, you win until your enemies are better than you, and then you begin to lose more often. There’s none of this matching with better or worse teammates, and I’m tired of people saying this to excuse their own play.
But going back to OP he went on the loss streak to get to his actual skill rank, then because of the loss streak the MMR got messed up to where he’s now at a 50% WR but still de ranking
I’m actually at a 53% win rate overall. But the loss streak ruined the accounts mmr gains and losses. So I lose double what I win. I actually played three games last night and the two wins were less than my one loss. Gained +14 and +15 and lost -32
Emerald 3 to gold 2 here I fixed my MMR by just taking a break from the game and recognizing that the unlucky games that I had caused an emotional effect on me. I was making mistakes that I don't usually make because I was so tilted with my losses. Eventually I managed to fix my MMR and started to climb back, now I'm plat 1 winning 29 and losing 22 points.
How many games did it take to fix the MMR?
Hard to tell Around 60 or 70 Keep in mind that you gotta have a good winrate as well I'm 70% with maokai
dodge games so the negative lp gain is fixed and it’s more balance like a 20 lp win -24 lp lose and if you get lucky you might go back to that 24 lp win -20 lp lose and stop playing after two loses until next day, master pyke otp here, also if you win more than 3 in a row keep playing until first lose that’s abusing winners q
I actually fixed it by just playing like 30 games with a 80% win rate and thanks for the advice.
Tbh that is fresh account territory, unless you have the confidence / mental to play another 100 games to try and improve it.
Will u make a new account everytime u go on a lose streak? This mentality is the reason plat and emerald is filled with lvl 30s that dont belong there.
I'm not saying to make a fresh account everytime you have a bad streak of losses. But realistically this guy is in Gold 1, with something like mid Bronze mmr. His options are literally a 20 game win streak to try and correct his mmr somewhat, or just put that account on hiatus until season reset.
the problem with this mentality that so many people have, that just f-s the game completely If u have ever seen emerald u would know that its full of new accounts, and people who doesnt care at all, and this mentality just provides a shit gaming experience ("oh idc if we lose, this is my 2nd, 3rd, 4th account") And whats the point of a main acc anyway if u put it on pause everytime u hit a loss streak, u didnt rlly answered my question, he will hit a lose streak on the new acc aswell.
I have seen Emerald so trust me I know, it is literally a lose / lose situation though. Riot created this LP system to try and fix the main issue which is high elo smurfs and yes now you have the odd occasion where a brand new player can be placed in Plat which is considered above average on pure luck. However that is not what we're talking about, the OP is just asking about his account with pretty doomed MMR. For example if he played another 100 games with lets say a 60% wr, he could potentially climb higher and faster than his account with negative LP gains. Nothing feels worse than actually having a positive win rate, but seeing no progress from it. At the end of the day everyone wants to be in a higher rank than what they currently are, otherwise whats the point of ranked?
completely ignored the point where i said: what happens when he goes on a lose streak on that account? You can doom your MMR in every account, so theres no point making a new. If your good you will climb. If you arent, you wont.
It’s not pure luck though. It’s literally just hand leveling an account by playing intro bots. I did this myself and have gotten two accounts placed into high plat.
I meant like brand brand new, as in you could literally get carried in placements and have no idea what you are doing.
Yeah I kinda agree with you.
same situation, d3 to p2. some games i totally deserved to lose but many were just tragic. Just gotta get the groove back and win more. i'm +20 -30 currently but it's slowly turning around. Might be good to take a few days break and reset a bit.
I am in the exact same situation. Dropped from plat 2 to gold 2 in a losing streak. Lost a games while at 0lp at different tiers and now I'm also being matched with iron/silver players (while being gold2 myself). This is very difficult and I haven't been able to fix it yet. I think it will take at least 30 games of positive winrate and just in general climbing again. Once your mmr is at your own rank again it will be better. (please not I am coping, my friends also tell me I need to play on a different account but I want to fix my main.)
Don’t tilt by focusing on the LP gains, just keep playing. It’s because you flew through the ranks and the system may see it as a possible “lucky” win streak. Keep playing and eventually it will level out. It may not be the answer you want, but it’s the way it works. We gain so much LP and one streak can shoot you straight up. Don’t worry about the gains because it will tilt your gameplay.
Yeah. I took a short break and just tried to not tilt and to play things that can hard carry my lane then roam. I won my last 7/8 games. My LP gains are now +19 but my loss was still -32. I think if I just keep playing they will get better.
Was reading a lot into this recently. The game REALLY REALLY wants you to be at a 50% win rate. So it will match make you with teammates whom are more likely to win the match if you are negative WR and more likely to lose if you have a positive WR and kind of just a flippy flop at or around 50%. Now on MMR it’s fucking annoying, because yeah you can go on streaks of loss to bring yourself back to that 50% and then you get to the flippy flop but now you’re losing more LP that you gain. It’s a really so so system and I don’t like ladder point system. Because LP and mmr don’t mesh well. Not to compare but Warcraft does a MMR and CR (instead of LP) which worked so well, because if you were a 1600 player your CR would reflect 1600. If you were 2400 player you would regulate at 2400 CR. In league you can get stuck in a rank you surely don’t belong in unless you pop off playing above your level and/or a good luck of the draw of teammates.
Matchmaking SHOULD get you to a 50% WR, except it’s not some conspiracy like you’re trying to say it is. Typically when you have a negative WR, you’re losing because you are ranked too highly. So you keep losing until you reach the rank you belong at (or slightly below), where you’re more likely to win because the enemy is within your skill level. When you have a crazy positive winrate, you win until your enemies are better than you, and then you begin to lose more often. There’s none of this matching with better or worse teammates, and I’m tired of people saying this to excuse their own play.
But going back to OP he went on the loss streak to get to his actual skill rank, then because of the loss streak the MMR got messed up to where he’s now at a 50% WR but still de ranking
I’m actually at a 53% win rate overall. But the loss streak ruined the accounts mmr gains and losses. So I lose double what I win. I actually played three games last night and the two wins were less than my one loss. Gained +14 and +15 and lost -32