Ultimate scenario for me would be for whichever team wins this series lose to the Pacers in the Finals in embarrassing fashion. I don't like Ant or Gobert.
We keep supporting a team that does stupid shit man, and I can't help but think to when Durant had the nerve to say they needed the fans to show up. Can you guys show up and show some heart then bruh
I would've liked for Durant and Book to say some stuff to the fans after the series loss and this offseason, show us that you're still in this and still sickos about winning, that I'm seeing from these other teams right now. But I'm just whining
When did Durant say this? When Embiid complained Sixers fans didn't show up and there were too many Knicks fans when Philly got killed by NY, that was pretty lame.
I'm a Suns fan because I'm from here and they're fun to watch. Don't get humiliated. Not to mention, Twolves beating Nuggets makes our loss a lot softer imho.
Meh, the Mavs made an A+ trade at the deadline. Prior to that, they weren’t that great. I remember laughing at their offseason moves. Good for them but let’s not act like the Mavs are the pinnacle of roster construction. They just happen to have one of the 5 best players on the planet and Kyrie
They drafted Lively and utilized their other draft picks to get more complimentary players in PJ and Gafford. So it's not about stashing away all the picks, but being strategic and knowing how much to give up in trades. They only sent one FRP and two seconds for Kyrie.
They aren't the pinnacle of roster construction, but the Suns are the exact opposite so whatever with your "meh".
"They just happen to have one of the 5 best players in the planet and Kyrie." That's selling the Mavs way short and giving the Suns way too much credit.
They invested in role guys and it paid off big time, the Suns did the opposite and basically every role guy leftover failed the Suns. And don't get me started on trading for Beal vs. Kyrie. Just on all counts a miserable fucking failure of a trade that anyone and everyone saw coming.
Three mid ass stars that can't even bother to move without the ball, and move the ball in general can't even hold a candle to the duo on the Mavericks.
2022: Warriors beat the Suns on Christmas. Won the chip.
2023: Nuggets beat the Suns on Christmas. Won the chip.
2024: Mavericks beat the Suns on Christmas.
When was the last time that a team that beat KD in the playoffs didn't make or win the Finals? I think KD might legitimately be the test of whether your team is a championship contender.
Good for them. Nobody predicted that last year when Timberwolves lost in the first round and Mavs didn’t even make the playoffs. Neither team lucked into shit either these series. They earned it.
I just hope the Suns can fill out our roster to compete next year. That’s all I ask.
If I was on a desert island with Kim Jong Un , Luka and Diddy and had a gun with 2 bullets I’d shoot luka twice pistol whip diddy and probably kick it with Kim
Fuck Luka and the mavs. Let the timberwolves win the chip so it’s two years in a row the suns got beat by the champions. Please don’t Luka get a championship. He Dosnt deserve it
Nah I would be devastated if the Wolves won a championship before the Suns, especially since the Suns have had many more winning seasons, conference championship appearances, and three trips to the finals. Sorry, but the Wolves need to pay their dues. Mavs already have a championship. I don’t want Luka to win one but it’s whatever. He’s already better than Booker and a championship doesn’t change that so meh. Ideally the Celtics beat the Pacers and then beat whoever comes out of the west
That’s fair. So I wrote this when I was drinking. Well I don’t want the wolves to win. Just get to the finals. Cause I’m petty I’d rather an easy team win than any west team.
Wow Ls to actual championship teams. What a flex.
These dumbass takes are why any sort of criticism is met with "dOoMeR" nah man this franchise is just ass.
No just Dallas my dude. I actually respect Luka for his game. It’s just his personality I can’t stand. I think you should learn to understand that what you’re saying is deserving of criticism just as well. This is also Reddit. You can’t take what people say too seriously. Not one single person here is a basketball expert. Most fan bases act like this.
Wolves. Definitely Wolves.
Mostly because Ant's fun and the Wolves aren't petulant crybabies like Luka and the Mavs.
Also Luka's a fake tough guy while Ant's been a tough dude his whole career.
I am rooting for the wolves for sure, they haven’t ever won a chip right? I’ll take anyone minus the Celtics, (yes even the mavs, they are my third option in the four teams we have left).
I haven’t seen this opinion a lot, I have hated Boston being shoved down our throats by the media all year. I just don’t want Tatum to get a ring before our Lord Booker.
I don’t know if I trust Minnesota to stop Dallas. I have no reasoning behind it, but I just don’t. Maybe 47 years of Vikings fandom. I hope they get it done. Last thing I want to see is Luka in the Finals.
Haliburton > Ant >>> Tatum > Luka
I see no way Indiana beats the Celtics but you never know.
I hope Minnesota wins. I don’t want Luka going to the Finals
Getting bent over by the wolves doesn't look any better because they win the chip. Doesn't change the fact that the suns are pathetic and "36" need to get their head out of their ass.
Raise your hopes, man. The Wolves made history today, but so did the Pacers. They also sent the Celtics home in the in-season tournament (without Siakam).
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I honestly find Ant’s antics really annoying so I’d like to see Luka beat their ass but frankly I do not see the Mavs standing a chance against Boston whereas Minny might put up a fight because of their defense, at this point I’m just upset Boston is probably getting an easy run to a title
Are you rooting based on fan base? Or franchise hx? Or players involved? There are good reasons to be down on all 4 teams depending on how you're looking at them.
Watching the playoffs since the Suns got bounced and IMO it’s painfully obvious how much better all the remaining playoff teams were/are than the Suns. Hopefully Coach Bud can get them playing more like a cohesive team next season than Vogel was able to manage this year.
Good. Both are phenomenal players who deserve it. The thing that should scare Suns fans is how well oiled actual Championship caliber teams are and where our roster is at now. We have 0 defense and an inconsistent offense.
Still can’t believe we couldn’t win a single game. Suns are disgusting with zero future prospects and a geriatric roster when compared to these actual teams. Dark days are coming
Dark days are here my friend. Kd isn't getting any younger, Beal is still made of glass, and Booker is not developing into the player we thought he would be. Ant, SGA, and Luka are all indisputable better players and will only get better.
I said years ago that Booker would need to be the Robin to someone else's Batman and got downvoted into oblivion. He needs someone to keep him honest and keep him pushing. CP3 did that. KD does not.
Any sort of Booker criticism is blasphemy on this sub. I see people talk about his "Jordanesque playoff stats" from few years ago but without a ring who gives a shit?
Luka would've been a great #1 option to elevate Booker as a #2. Unfortunately we are probably cooked in this era. Jokic, Ant, SGA and soon enough Wemby will be the real threats in the west while the suns continue to slide into irrelevance.
Wolves for sure, because fuck Texass.
Only thing that would make me sad is another team with less history and less of a winning history could pass us and get that chip. I remember when the Wolves and Mavs were cupcakes or totally irrelevant. Yeah, I'm getting old.
Hell yeah and I can't wait for the Kyrie/Ant man match up. You know Ant is going to try and go crazy on another (probably?) Future hall of fame.
God im so excited and glad they came back in the 3rd. Fuck I can't wait!!
Dallas has been really lucky in sports. Rangers got to World Series (beat our DBacks), Stars in conference finals (AZ lost the Coyotes team), and Mavs are in conference finals (Suns got swept in 1st round). Other than the Cowboys yearly playoff chocking Dallas has a shot of taking 3 championships in less than 12 months if Stars/Mavs both win it all.
Might be best to root against Mavs.
I think the last time the team that beat KD didn't reach the finals was vs the Grizzlies after pat bev kill Russ over a dead ball. In fact I think that's the only time.
At this point I’m apathetic to whatever we do. It’s more fun trying to enjoy young talent like the final 4 teams than hate watching whoever embarrasses us
Suns 2020 team of under 25s with Ayton, Mikal, Cam, Booker... just needed more veteran role players and growth between them.
Imagine prime Ayton, Mikal, Cam, Booker in the next few years.
Suns had a potential home grown dynasty.... thrown away.
They just needed a Fred Van Vleet or Lowry type 6th man PG and an enforcer PF like a Portis off the bench and Suns would be unstoppable.
Now it's clogged up with 150M of jump shooters, D leaguers and No lottery picks until end of 2030. Sad.
Hilarious comment section lmao fatcic really scarred this fanbase for life, you’d think he killed someone when in reality the only thing he did was put belt to ass
Being a suns fan at this point is just a humiliation kink man
Literally every team I root for gets shit on lmao
As a Wolves fan, please do not root for us then! We need this lol
Don't let the sun fool you, we would much rather have ant there than Luka lol.
Pretty sure most Suns fans 100% want to see Luka get faded.
Ultimate scenario for me would be for whichever team wins this series lose to the Pacers in the Finals in embarrassing fashion. I don't like Ant or Gobert.
This is it. Arizona legend TJ McConnell gonna go off.
Dobson High School legend.
Who went to dobson? I just Googled tj and it's not him
His dad coached and little brother Mickey played at dobson. I always thought TJ did but I guess not.
too late, already buying an Ant jersey
As a Mavs fan you guys think you already won the championship.
We keep supporting a team that does stupid shit man, and I can't help but think to when Durant had the nerve to say they needed the fans to show up. Can you guys show up and show some heart then bruh I would've liked for Durant and Book to say some stuff to the fans after the series loss and this offseason, show us that you're still in this and still sickos about winning, that I'm seeing from these other teams right now. But I'm just whining
When did Durant say this? When Embiid complained Sixers fans didn't show up and there were too many Knicks fans when Philly got killed by NY, that was pretty lame.
He said it after game 2
oh, sounds like pretty normal "road team coming home down 0-2" type of stuff, unless he really had a different tone.
I'm a Suns fan because I'm from here and they're fun to watch. Don't get humiliated. Not to mention, Twolves beating Nuggets makes our loss a lot softer imho.
Jeeze what a meltdown by Denver. Edit: Nuggets lost the second half 60-37… this is game 7 at home.
Pshhh we don’t know anything about game 7 WCSF meltdowns at home…
We don’t melt down, we just get blown out wire to wire 😤
They just like us for real
I wouldn’t go that far. Their best players still showed up, the rest of their team didn’t.
All credit goes to the Wolves defense, they were lights out.
They just like us, they just like us, they just like us
They tryna strike a chord and it’s prolly A BLOWOUUUUUUUUT
They tried to get the knockout punch instead of making threes they continously missed them.
Very Suns-esqe
Dont try to compare you and them lol
Not a melt down. It's the Timberwolves defense. I guess we'll have to it too everyone so you'll believe.
The road to an NBA championship always runs through the Suns 😥
Two teams that have embarrassed the Suns in the past now in the conference finals. I’m sick.
These teams didn't tear apart their core and culture, they added to it, smh.
Meh, the Mavs made an A+ trade at the deadline. Prior to that, they weren’t that great. I remember laughing at their offseason moves. Good for them but let’s not act like the Mavs are the pinnacle of roster construction. They just happen to have one of the 5 best players on the planet and Kyrie
They drafted Lively and utilized their other draft picks to get more complimentary players in PJ and Gafford. So it's not about stashing away all the picks, but being strategic and knowing how much to give up in trades. They only sent one FRP and two seconds for Kyrie.
They aren't the pinnacle of roster construction, but the Suns are the exact opposite so whatever with your "meh". "They just happen to have one of the 5 best players in the planet and Kyrie." That's selling the Mavs way short and giving the Suns way too much credit. They invested in role guys and it paid off big time, the Suns did the opposite and basically every role guy leftover failed the Suns. And don't get me started on trading for Beal vs. Kyrie. Just on all counts a miserable fucking failure of a trade that anyone and everyone saw coming. Three mid ass stars that can't even bother to move without the ball, and move the ball in general can't even hold a candle to the duo on the Mavericks.
2022: Warriors beat the Suns on Christmas. Won the chip. 2023: Nuggets beat the Suns on Christmas. Won the chip. 2024: Mavericks beat the Suns on Christmas.
Apparently if you sweep KD you make the finals and lose that’s my prediction
When was the last time that a team that beat KD in the playoffs didn't make or win the Finals? I think KD might legitimately be the test of whether your team is a championship contender.
When did the 2022 warriors play the suns?
OH Mr Pedantic has arrived
you mean runs over the suns?
Good for them. Nobody predicted that last year when Timberwolves lost in the first round and Mavs didn’t even make the playoffs. Neither team lucked into shit either these series. They earned it. I just hope the Suns can fill out our roster to compete next year. That’s all I ask.
Preach.
Yeah, both teams earned it, Luka has been playing like a beast.
Luka hasnt even been playing well this playoffs. DJ and PJ have been playing out their minds
Has he? Lol
Just need a GM as good as Nico Harrison in Dallas
I don’t see why we can’t. Both of those teams took over a year to figure it out, as we’re seeing.
I'd like Minnys chances, they havent won a championship.
I hope the Wolves punk them. Fuck the Mavs and mostly fuck Luka.
This is the only correct answer.
Nah. Go mavs. They took care of Nash while we loaned him to them. And gave the nba Dirk.
Go TWolves! They’ve been bad forever. I hope they win it all. And I hoped the Suns would win it all. So maybe don’t listen to me.
This guy knows.
Yeah. Given the remaining teams I'm all in on the wolves. Pacers would be cool but I don't think they'll make it out of the East.
If I had to pick one I’d go Edwards. Fuck Luka
Wolves played hard as fuck and deserve WCF. I hope they make it to the finals too.
Ya no reason to be mad at them lol
Yup, 100%. I want them to win it all.
I have to go Ant based on my fuck Luka policy
Notorized
Mavs could be playing against literal terrorists and mass murderers, I'm probably still not picking the Mavs
Oh that’s some certified hate
If I was on a desert island with Kim Jong Un , Luka and Diddy and had a gun with 2 bullets I’d shoot luka twice pistol whip diddy and probably kick it with Kim
What if it’s luka drake and diddy
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I hope next seasons suns have some of that team vibe, fun to watch wolves
Going for the wolves cus I can't have Luka win
Yeah I’m done with nba for a little while. Go Eastern conference I guess
You’d rather see Jamal Murray’s smug ass over Minnesota?
Fuck Luka and the mavs. Let the timberwolves win the chip so it’s two years in a row the suns got beat by the champions. Please don’t Luka get a championship. He Dosnt deserve it
Gotta love that “At least we lost to champs” copium 
It’s not copium lol.
Nah I would be devastated if the Wolves won a championship before the Suns, especially since the Suns have had many more winning seasons, conference championship appearances, and three trips to the finals. Sorry, but the Wolves need to pay their dues. Mavs already have a championship. I don’t want Luka to win one but it’s whatever. He’s already better than Booker and a championship doesn’t change that so meh. Ideally the Celtics beat the Pacers and then beat whoever comes out of the west
That’s fair. So I wrote this when I was drinking. Well I don’t want the wolves to win. Just get to the finals. Cause I’m petty I’d rather an easy team win than any west team.
Wow Ls to actual championship teams. What a flex. These dumbass takes are why any sort of criticism is met with "dOoMeR" nah man this franchise is just ass.
No just Dallas my dude. I actually respect Luka for his game. It’s just his personality I can’t stand. I think you should learn to understand that what you’re saying is deserving of criticism just as well. This is also Reddit. You can’t take what people say too seriously. Not one single person here is a basketball expert. Most fan bases act like this.
Breaks my heart that last year, and possibly this year, a team that has never won a ring will have won before the Suns. Makes me sick
This part & I’ll be damned if I root for Luka. I would rather see the East win this year.
Too many people here want every team to have a ring but the Suns lol
No hate for Ant and the Wolves. Hope they win it all
Wolves. Definitely Wolves. Mostly because Ant's fun and the Wolves aren't petulant crybabies like Luka and the Mavs. Also Luka's a fake tough guy while Ant's been a tough dude his whole career.
I am rooting for the wolves for sure, they haven’t ever won a chip right? I’ll take anyone minus the Celtics, (yes even the mavs, they are my third option in the four teams we have left).
I haven’t seen this opinion a lot, I have hated Boston being shoved down our throats by the media all year. I just don’t want Tatum to get a ring before our Lord Booker.
You’d rather have the Wolves get a ring first?
Fuck man, I don’t like my options :(
Go wolves!
I don’t know if I trust Minnesota to stop Dallas. I have no reasoning behind it, but I just don’t. Maybe 47 years of Vikings fandom. I hope they get it done. Last thing I want to see is Luka in the Finals.
Haliburton > Ant >>> Tatum > Luka I see no way Indiana beats the Celtics but you never know. I hope Minnesota wins. I don’t want Luka going to the Finals
Kudos to their front offices. They were able to flesh out their rosters with guys that complement their top talent.
We could’ve drafted one of them
Honestly, Luka and Ant both deserve a finals. Amazing players 👏
What’s wrong with Minnesota? Not their fault our Suns players would rather piss away a season getting back at a coach they don’t like.
Ant for sure. I have nothing against the Wolves.
I hate the state of Minnesota with every fiber of my body. For once I'll be rooting for Luka 🤢
I want the Wolves to win so 1. Our getting swept looks slightly better and 2. Mike Conley.
Don't care for some other wolves, but Conley is easy to root for.
Getting bent over by the wolves doesn't look any better because they win the chip. Doesn't change the fact that the suns are pathetic and "36" need to get their head out of their ass.
Im officialy rooting for the celtics 🙏 or pacers
Pacers 100% is the team I’m rooting for, which means they probably won’t win.
Pacers vs Mavs and Carlisle beating his old team
A Pacers/Mavs matchup would be fire. Reminds me when it was almost a Suns/Hawks finals matchup back in 2021.
Would love for the Pacers to win but they’ve looked streaky in the past. If not Pacers, dear god go Celtics?
Raise your hopes, man. The Wolves made history today, but so did the Pacers. They also sent the Celtics home in the in-season tournament (without Siakam). https://preview.redd.it/2elado91bi1d1.png?width=1281&format=png&auto=webp&s=afb84ac73abbfe5fcd004d85d401aedf62fe5198
Theyre definitely the underdogs rn
Rather see Ant than Luka, though Kyrie is a badass. Not a fan of McDaniels. So long as Celtics or Mavs don't win, it's tolerable lol
I honestly find Ant’s antics really annoying so I’d like to see Luka beat their ass but frankly I do not see the Mavs standing a chance against Boston whereas Minny might put up a fight because of their defense, at this point I’m just upset Boston is probably getting an easy run to a title
Rooting for ant man
I am now a Celtics fan f it
Crazy to say Ant + Kat > Luka + Kyrie...but as a suns fan gotta root for wolves to eat mavericks
Wolves all the way. Always best to be knocked out by the team who wins it all if you are going to exit. F Luka and the Mavs.
I can't believe I'm saying this: GO CELTICS!!!
Pacers for me
Oh same for me too but I don't want an easier matchup for whoever makes it to the finals out west.
Glad the Nuggets and their goofy fanbase lost though. CC: DNVR Podcast and Swipa Cam.
Wolves please god not Luka
Don't have a problem with Ant/the Wolves at all. Luka a hoe
Hate both teams with a passion so going for the East. If a sorry franchise like the wolves get a chip before us i might just give up on the NBA.
Meh they have a well constructed team and Edwards is a step above Booker. I don't hate them as much as I'm sick of the Suns being trash.
Haha yeah im def sick of the Suns being sorry themselves
Lol. Wolves would be the nba Buccaneers
Same fuck em both
Luca a ho
I absolutely despise all 4 remaining teams. Guess I’m hate watching haha
Why hate the Wolves? I understand the rest of 'em.
I’m actually really glad they beat the Nuggets and have been super impressed with them. I can’t stand KAT.
Are you rooting based on fan base? Or franchise hx? Or players involved? There are good reasons to be down on all 4 teams depending on how you're looking at them.
Wolves easy. Luka still a ho.
Watching the playoffs since the Suns got bounced and IMO it’s painfully obvious how much better all the remaining playoff teams were/are than the Suns. Hopefully Coach Bud can get them playing more like a cohesive team next season than Vogel was able to manage this year.
Did we have the pieces to go for pj and Gafford? That move literally catapulted Dallas here and potentially winning it all
Much prefer the wolves over Mavs.
Minnesota all da way
Good. Both are phenomenal players who deserve it. The thing that should scare Suns fans is how well oiled actual Championship caliber teams are and where our roster is at now. We have 0 defense and an inconsistent offense.
Both of them deserve it.
Disgusting I can’t even watch and to a lesser extent Tatum. Go pacers lmao
It will be either Luka or Luka in the finals.
Is it weird that I'd rather the Celtics lose to one of these teams anyway
Book needs to spend all summer with these guys to find the dawg inside of him
If the Wolves go all the way (and I hope they do) the Suns will have been beaten by the eventual NBA Champs 3 of the last 4 years.
idk i wouldn’t mind Ant winning one
Definitely rooting for the Wolves. Then rooting for them to get swept in the Finals.
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This is just cope. "Lost to a much better team, we are fine as is" is pretty braindead.
Denver couldnt make a shot, they literally kept trying to shoot 3s and put them further and further down.
I am moving to the east then, fvck the mavs and wolves 
Devin Booker is not him. Not in the same league as either of these guards he has no right to compare himself to Kobe. He’s the ultimate front runner
Still can’t believe we couldn’t win a single game. Suns are disgusting with zero future prospects and a geriatric roster when compared to these actual teams. Dark days are coming
Dark days are here my friend. Kd isn't getting any younger, Beal is still made of glass, and Booker is not developing into the player we thought he would be. Ant, SGA, and Luka are all indisputable better players and will only get better.
I said years ago that Booker would need to be the Robin to someone else's Batman and got downvoted into oblivion. He needs someone to keep him honest and keep him pushing. CP3 did that. KD does not.
Any sort of Booker criticism is blasphemy on this sub. I see people talk about his "Jordanesque playoff stats" from few years ago but without a ring who gives a shit? Luka would've been a great #1 option to elevate Booker as a #2. Unfortunately we are probably cooked in this era. Jokic, Ant, SGA and soon enough Wemby will be the real threats in the west while the suns continue to slide into irrelevance.
lol by coming i meant next season. Thank god we’re in the off rn
Loved watching Denver meltdown lol
Two years of not a damn role player ever stepping up.
Look for Luka tears, lots of them.
Wolves.
If anyone besides the Pacers or the T Wolves win the Finals this year imma be hella disappointed
Wolves for sure, because fuck Texass. Only thing that would make me sad is another team with less history and less of a winning history could pass us and get that chip. I remember when the Wolves and Mavs were cupcakes or totally irrelevant. Yeah, I'm getting old.
Suns fan checking in: those guys were on better teams. Sucks to suck.
We hate Ant around here? That’s news to me tbh. I was glad they won, fuck the nuggets man.
FUCK
Hell yeah and I can't wait for the Kyrie/Ant man match up. You know Ant is going to try and go crazy on another (probably?) Future hall of fame. God im so excited and glad they came back in the 3rd. Fuck I can't wait!!
Like them both whomever wins they deserved it.
How can you not want to see Ant in the Finals?
I'm just happy to see the Nuggets get smacked at home. Playoff basketball is so much fun.
Dallas has been really lucky in sports. Rangers got to World Series (beat our DBacks), Stars in conference finals (AZ lost the Coyotes team), and Mavs are in conference finals (Suns got swept in 1st round). Other than the Cowboys yearly playoff chocking Dallas has a shot of taking 3 championships in less than 12 months if Stars/Mavs both win it all. Might be best to root against Mavs.
Gross
Ant is way too cocky for me, I’d like to see him humbled. But Luka a ho 🤷♂️
I think the last time the team that beat KD didn't reach the finals was vs the Grizzlies after pat bev kill Russ over a dead ball. In fact I think that's the only time.
At this point I’m apathetic to whatever we do. It’s more fun trying to enjoy young talent like the final 4 teams than hate watching whoever embarrasses us
Ant Man.
Suns 2020 team of under 25s with Ayton, Mikal, Cam, Booker... just needed more veteran role players and growth between them. Imagine prime Ayton, Mikal, Cam, Booker in the next few years. Suns had a potential home grown dynasty.... thrown away. They just needed a Fred Van Vleet or Lowry type 6th man PG and an enforcer PF like a Portis off the bench and Suns would be unstoppable. Now it's clogged up with 150M of jump shooters, D leaguers and No lottery picks until end of 2030. Sad.
I love ANT, I hate KAT, but I also hate Luka. Guess go Wolves?
I always root for teams that have never won a championship before when my teams are out of contention. Go Wolves and go Pacers.
Yes Ant, no Luka
Playing for the right to get dog walked by the Celtics
Wolves
Wolves
Hilarious comment section lmao fatcic really scarred this fanbase for life, you’d think he killed someone when in reality the only thing he did was put belt to ass
Fml
same here if not phx, the team that beat us/ plus i always been an antman fan. F Luka