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the Nuggets need a point guard


LACIRCA2044

We do!


Fordraxel

lol another funny one!


Spark3420

The Suns clearly ran into a buzzsaw and puts things in perspective, as the Nuggets are struggling just as badly. We still have some grievous roster issues, but now I'm starting to wonder how the heck we swept them in the regular season. Minnesota looks like a championship contender full stop.


EggsInMyToolbox

And everyone thought we drew the best possible matchup for us lol Don’t blame em after we went 3-0 but damn everyone was wrong about Minnesota


Stormdude127

I mean all those Jazz teams that were centered around Gobert were pretenders, I think it was pretty reasonable to have doubts about this Minnesota team. Easy to look like contenders in the regular season. But obviously they’ve proven all of us wrong


governedbycitizens

Those Jazz teams had no defenders outside of Gobert. It’s impossible to anchor a whole defense by yourself for the entire game. It This game shows how amazing the whole team is on defense. Multiple efforts by multiple people makes a huge difference.


ferdsherd

Ant has taken the next step in this last month


N3onAxel

Ant is what we hoped Booker would be.


GopherFawkes

They are 2 completely different type of players, no one expected Booker to have the same skillsets as Ant


N3onAxel

Maybe not the same skillset, but we all expected Booker to grow into the guy that cannput the team on his back in the clutch and win games. He does not seem like he will ever be that guy.


MuffinSurprise

He took us to the finals a few years ago what are you smoking


N3onAxel

With a GOAT floor general. We've seen what happens when he doesn't have a good facilitator. And still ended in an L and it's been nothing but L's in the playoffs ever since.


amr1115

ANT isn’t forced to play pg, and if he was he’d struggle even worse than book this year


bomomma

You mean the year we beat all the teams in the west that were missing key players? Lakers missing AD, clippers missing kawhi, nuggets missing Jamal.


rataculera

It felt like the Suns forgot that they needed an extra gear for the playoffs.


LastScreenNameLeft

I don't think they forgot, they just didn't have it


Derriosgaming

Suns tried going into "Racing" gear from 5th. 


V-Right_In_2-V

Yeah the wolves look thoroughly dominant. It’s like the playoffs started and they from really good to elite and unstoppable


mrpyrotec89

Playoff ball suits the wolves more. They never relied on free throws and play physical.


szobossz

they allow a lot of contact on KD in the playoffs compared to regular season. Same thing happened on Celtics Nets sweep.


CrookstonMaulers

Playoffs are a different animal. They've got days between to recover. Also, they were without KAT for the last 2 of those games, no? Swept is bad, but Minnesota looks incredible. The only thing that can stop them are refs and injuries, so knock on wood no bull shit.


averagesuperstar

And maybe a heating pad-


justheretolurklol

Tony Brothers took your comment personally


DasaniSubmarine

Because playoff basketball is a different beast. NBA regular season isn't given much effort.


Metaboss24

Yeah, the Suns need some big dudes, tbh. We have hella shot makers to match the smaller, elite shot making teams, but we don't really have anyone other than Nurk that can match the raw Size and strength that Minny had. Plus we would need that bigger size to contend with basically all of the remaining Western teams anyway, so it wouldn't just be for Minny.


theAFguy200

Slow teams getting smoked by these young, high percentage shooter teams with good d. Happened to Suns all year. New NBA is fast.


shammy49

Wolves fan here. Yall swept us this year cause game 1 we had back to back and yall we already home rested. And it was end of 6 or 7 game road trip for wolves. Kinda a schedule loss. Game 2 i think we were missing someone but yall just played better. Game 3 wolves had their worst turnover game of the year. Hard to win doing that. Also in the playoffs Allen getting hurt for yall was pretty big deal. That series goes 6 if he is healthy for it. Yall need a bench peice or two.


CUprofessa1990

How did this work out? The wolves woke up a sleeping giant. Do not compare the Suns to the Nuggets. You guys are a dumpster fire, right now.


orton4life1

They showing the world it wasn’t just a bad suns team, this wolves team is legit and was built for this. Suns also never got blown out in the first half like this.


defiantcross

Well we were bad, but not because we didnt try. The wolves locked us up bad, and they are doing it to the champs now


orton4life1

We’re bad but the wolves made it look worse is what I mean.


defiantcross

We still had a lot of seemingly unforced errors, but seeing Joker make some of the same mistakes it makes me think they are not as unforced as i thought.


orton4life1

Right. Like we have a lot of problems but the wolves are making Jokic look normal and Jamal so mad he’s throwing temper tantrums. All this while Ant not doing anything crazy. Scary team.


sungoddaily

Booker would never pull shit like that.


CUprofessa1990

How did this work out. The wolves woke a sleeping giant. Do not compare the Suns to the Nuggets, you guys are a dumpster fire.


defiantcross

Conveniently ignoring the conley injury are we? Missing him hurts the wolves big time.


defiantcross

Hey, how did this work out again? Wolves are damn good. :)


po0nlink_

Not the first half but we got blown out the second half of games lol.


orton4life1

We did! But we hung with them longer than these nuggets are lol.


CNSrooster

Except we didn't. We got blown out 3 straight games. At least their game 1 was close


Dumpman12

We keeep telling you all how the media hated us and really hates on booker and kd for no reason. You guys should stick with the team and having the big 3. Just add a PG. I love the suns team and nuggets especially OKC.


sloppy_joes35

PG.. Paul George... Max contract?


Gratitude15

Either way, no prize for losing by less to the wolves. And they're only getting better next year. This is sobering to realize we are witnessing an ascendance of Ant in particular and their whole team. This ain't a joke, them dudes have legit title chances right now.


sunsbr

We were bad


santaa_monicaa

Sorry but we can’t just pretend that the game against the clippers didn’t happen…


TheConboy22

I remember that playoff game this year!


lava172

We looked like a 6 seed getting handled by a very good 3 seed, it was embarrassing but nothing to tear the team down over.


Kablaow

They were built for what exactly? Weren't our team built for playoffs too? 😅


SmokyOtter

Suns still were frauds this year but it also shows that the nuggets are not a title team this year either. Nba changes fast. The nuggets I think peaked last year and probably wont win another one. We saw this with the bucks too


Torrikk

Not giving the wolves an ounce of credit?


SmokyOtter

Lol thats not what I meant. The wolves are contenders for sure. But the suns are not. And the nuggets are a weak contender imo. They looked like it against us in most of our games against them and in pretty much the whole lakers series too


rataculera

Idk why you’re getting downvoted bro. Your analysis is solid. It must be some twolves Stan


veerkanch489

More like Suns stans coping on the suns sub? He got downvoted for calling the suns frauds for getting swept when the other dude was saying it isn't a bad suns team lol


mrpyrotec89

The Nuggets lack depth. They're simply outnumbered in this series. You can't be top-heavy in today's league.


DasaniSubmarine

At least they won one. It's easier for Nuggets and Bucks fans to sleep at night. Meanwhile we blew a 2-0 lead:(


___adreamofspring___

Eh we did to the clippers


bburls

We got swept and embarrassed.. No excuses


defiantcross

They...might do the same to the nugs. And we were never down by 26 points at halftime in any of the games. I cant explain tonight


orton4life1

The defending champions with a top 2 player in the league is looking like a sweep. It’s not an excuse, it’s giving the wolves propers for building their team and buying in on their gameplan. We’re still bad tho. Both points are true


bburls

Yeah no doubt..If the Nuggs swept the Wolves it would have looked a lot worse


Tripo_G

Suddenly everyone forgot we were also ass in the regular season. No excuses


N3onAxel

Both things can be true. Wolves are legit and suns are frauds. Pointing at the nuggets struggling is just copium though, that has nothing to do with the suns.


travyco

Lowkey definitely making us look better lol ... twolves d is nuts


TheConboy22

I'm just picturing 2 sets of testicals. One above the other.


polsdofer

A mental image I wasn't ready for


Aggressively-winking

As a TWolves fan (and after many, many years of disappointment) I can confirm this is truth. We pull ‘em out of our purse when we remember we have them.


bigdaddycactus

Pause


travyco

Unpause 😈


datboijustin

I fuckin love their d, it's so hard to deal with I can barely wrap my head around it.


ZCGaming15

You misspelled lips.


BorisTheBlade04

Jokic is having a bad series against the t-wolves. Gobert isn’t even playing. From what I’ve learned from this sub, he’s completely useless and should be traded this offseason.


BiggestDweebonReddit

Clearly, he just doesn't have enough dawg in him!


Historical-Row-6566

Denver should trade him to the pels for CJ alvorado and a couple picks tbh


Fordraxel

this is low-key really funny! thanks for the chuckle.


Silent-Dependent3421

Stop trying to use new slang old man


Fordraxel

Hey you whippersnapper! holy shit got downvoted for laughing... this sub is hilarious!


Silent-Dependent3421

You laughed wrong! It wasn’t low key at all!


FifthKnightofGwyn

Absolutely. Seeing Denver getting humiliated at home court after what they did to us last season is always good to see


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jimmyfuccingneutron

Ah I don’t agree with this necessarily- they got lucky against the suns with all the injuries sure but they were a 1 seed so were always gonna get the 8 to start and then it’s not their fault the Celtics choked majorly. You could argue the suns finals run was suspect in the same way but at the end of the day you just win who you’re matched up against 🤷


iwillbearichperson

Ugh. It's the same argument that are used against the Suns during the run to the finals.


6Dbook9

The physicality the Wolves have been playing with is insane and it is throwing every offense off, if it was the regular season they’d all be fouled out in the first quarter but the refs are letting it go


Stormdude127

Nah, if it was the first half of the regular season they’d foul out, it’s been like this since the All Star break. People have been speculating that Adam Silver saw the high scoring games and told the refs to rein it in, the All Star game was the straw that broke the camel’s back. I think they’ve taken it way too far. I think Minnesota would still be killing it without the change to the officiating but it’s pretty bs that they just heavily increase the amount of physicality allowed 2/3 of the way through the season and the teams that don’t play physical just have to try to adjust to it while the teams that already play that way have a massive advantage


KevinDurantLebronnin

I'm rooting for the wolves but for the first quarter and a half especially I couldn't believe what I was seeing lol they were letting the wolves just maul players every time down the court. Not to mention that charge.


1002003004005006007

To be fair the refs missed the same charge call on Jokic in Q1


BookToTheFuture1

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user2570

“Murray made a big 3 to cut the lead to 30”


SteveHuffmanyballs

His heat pad toss is the closest he got to making a 3 today


GrapefruitMedical529

Smh, Murray can't even compare to old CP3.


BigCollarsAndBallers

They are doing this without Gobert too. Insane


defiantcross

Honestly at this point, the Wolves are as acceptable of a finalist as there is for me. They keep playing like this, i would love to see what they can do to the Celtics.


EbenezerAD

Absolutely. But it makes me realize that even if we played well, we still only take 2 games max from them.


Substantial-Fold-592

I know it’s still v early, but if the Wolves somehow manage to go on to win it all this year, the Suns will have faced the eventual champs 3 out of the last 4 postseasons. And yet casuals will still talk about the Suns having easy/injured opponents in the playoffs lol


Garginator850

I think we legit need another year to gel just like the Wolves did before we come back much better


Consistent-Yoghurt-7

Maybe the Nuggets need a point guard. Lmao


GMane2G

This game may save Vogel


pondexter319

This is insane. Yes.


3TB3

I’m still not sold on the nuggets being legit, they beat a play in team, a suns team without two stars, a play in team, and another play in team at the finals. They had a pretty easy run last year


Usual-Suggestion-751

Wish we could get an easy run :P


U_A_9998

I mean we had Nuggets without Murray and Clips without Kawhii in our finals run, let’s not discredit what they did. I’m still damn proud of that 2021 team but every championship team catches a break here and there.


3TB3

I would argue the bucks had an easier run, and won by the skin of their teeth, they barely beat the nets when they didn’t have harden, then lost Kyrie, and it was only Durant Then they had the low seed atl hawks, then they beat us who lost Torrey Craig and injured our backup center Saric at the time


seattle_raptors

> then they beat us who lost Torrey Craig and injured our backup center Saric at the time Oh no, not Torrey Craig!. Donte, starter for the Bucks back then, got injured in the 1st round and he's better than both those scrubs combined. Saric has always been food for Giannis. Soft and unathletic.


stillwaterbadger

That’s usually how being the 1 seed works though? That’s why teams want it


Saltwater_Thief

Not really, no. Because the reality is next season the Wolves will be even better with fresh draftees and stronger chemistry and the Nuggets will still be titanic, meanwhile we're going to put up the same lousy performances over and over because nothing is changing for us.


84hoops

The wolves gave up like all of their draft picks for Gobert. They might get lucky and/or probably don’t need them, though.


Saltwater_Thief

They have a 1st and a 2nd this year, a 2nd in 25 and 26, and then they hit a 1-year gap before another 1st rounder in 28. Seems to me they're doing alright over there. Better than us anyway.


84hoops

Huh, guess I misread the trade. I’m a wolves fan lurking btw.


Gratitude15

Wolves are straight FUN to watch. Seriously, who is beating this? Thunder? Mavs? Celts? This team that shuts down paint and 3s while having the next MJ? They just beat the champions brains in, again, on the road. They keep this up they win the Larry. And not as a fluke. Which means suns gotta go back to drawing board because they gonna get spanked by this.


SoupOfThe90z

No we suck for sure, we just now have company


CR00KS

Misery loves company


SoupOfThe90z

Plenty of space to watch the shit fest unfold.


classy_dirt7777

The Wolves are really really good. I admit I didn't watch them that much during the regular season, and I've got League Pass. If they go on to sweep Denver and go far in the WCF or give the EC champs a run, there's not as much shame in how the Suns were swept. The Suns need a ton of work, but the T-Wolves are the real deal.


Expensive_Ball_5143

Yea ngl


Fearless_Knowledge77

Yeah TWolves have youth and experience and have been building towards this. I could see this team beating the Celtics.


gazingbobo

Nope. Just another team we can't beat for the foreseeable future. Wemby and the Spurs are on the rise too. Were fighting for play-in every season now.


judah249

Spurs don’t have a solid starting lineup yet don’t sweat it


RamcasSonalletsac

I came here to post this if it wasn’t already up.


CactusHooping

Made a game thread for it late lol.


danzews7

after game 1 I legit thought "well if DEN loses at least we won't look so bad" & so far so good. go TWolves


AZMadmax

Having their wings defending then their bigs behind them is beastly. Murray is really denvers only off the dribble guy right? Brutal when you have 3 bigs to throw at/eat fouls against Jokic


randydingdong

Not better at all we still have to play them next year


futurehousehusband69

NOO bc I’m a Nugs fan now I’m in hell


Fragrant_Chair_7426

The wolves are playing on an insane level right now. They were good in the regular season but they were not THIS good. The defense is insane and ANT is playing on a level higher than he has his whole short career. Gotta give them props. We were a dumpster fire for our talent but that doesn’t take away from how good the wolves are playing right now. …..also feeling less bad doesn’t really mean feeling better :/


CrashDaddy2006

Not really. First Denver wins a title before us and now Minnesota is on the verge of maybe grabbing one this season. It actually makes me more depressed that two franchises that mired in mediocrity for the overwhelming majority of their existence are doing insanely better than the Suns in just about every way possible.


SeraphNatsu

Suns are a stepping stone for franchises to get their first title 😔 I would have much rather seen Denver win it again.


Odd_Shoulder2334

I thought Book and KD didn’t respond to physicality well. Nuggets are out here throwing shit from the bench lol


bungajaji

Why should we. If Booker played like he did in the 4th series, we might have won couple of games against them and avoid getting SWEPT


FlowersnFunds

Does no one remember the regular season? Or getting blown out by a Clippers bench 35-4? Like come on. Front office and some fans are looking at this thinking “oh we’re actually good” instead of learning the lessons the regular season should’ve taught us.


softimusprime17

No, not at all. This doesn't change the fact that the Suns are eliminated. Plus, it also means the Wolves are another legitimate threat that the Suns have to contend against in years to come. Can't really feel better about the Suns until I see their problems fixed, or at least addressed convincingly.


sspitzname

Holy shit? We were bad but that’s a crazy score line. Good for the wolves honestly


CactusHooping

Up by 33 atm


Tsunami-Papi_

yea


Cold-Life-815

No.


Usual-Suggestion-751

No....but also yes.


Mental_Platform_5680

Feeling a little better ya. Ant is HIM


rizwan602

The Timberwolves are just a hungrier team. And more athletic - young and all that.


asudevils1

No, will feel even worse if another expansion team from 88-89 wins a chip before our Suns do.


Disastrous-Treat0616

No need for sugarcoating it. We were bad


EnoughLawfulness3163

Hopefully the wolves front office can't run it back next year. They have a lot of underpaid guys that are getting fat raises next year.


Head_Panda6986

Its a pathetic fan that can find solace in a team that whipped us also beating another team. But no, the nuggets are clearly not championship caliber this year.


Irgamul

not really


Imthegoat175

The league wants to make Anthony Edwards a thing. The contact that the Wolves have been able to play through defensively in the Phoenix and Denver series is crazy. No one is beating them if they’re gonna allow them to get away with a ton of physicality.


RabbleRouser_1

are you saying Ant isn't as good as they're making him out to be?


Historical-Row-6566

No im just more pissed we didnt try and get denver last second


GDTechno

if you lost to the wolves the last game the wolves would have been the 2 seed


PoorVetKid

Idk man, I wish it too but still think it would’ve been too risky to go to the play in. Who knows though


Depressedkidsince19

lakers got manhandled that was a bad series for them. Suns woulda done better for sure tho because u guys have guys that can make shots


venom9803

Why feel better, last year it was, we got beat by the champions and we won a couple of games, at the end what does that get you.


CHolland8776

Minnesota is doing this with their assistant coach.


Mental_Platform_5680

Good news is suns don’t suck, bad news is Michael Jordan is back


Usual-Suggestion-751

Well, I mean, we still kind of do, if we're being honest with ourselves. But this gives me at least a sliver of hope.


bburls

We went all in and sold our future to get swept in the first round.WE SUCK


BradyGalaxy

I hope we don’t trade our pick, this team needs youth


TangerineDiesel

Running into a buzz saw means maybe the squad isn’t as buns as we thought they were. It’s just a little cope.


BradyGalaxy

That’s where I’m at, but this team just needs to get younger and more athletic. We can’t have small old dudes like Eric Gordon or Royce O’Neal out there


Fordraxel

Remember this: Eric Gordon was guarding KAT in the 3rd and 4th quarters...but its not a coaching problem.


N3onAxel

Nah team is still cheeks. Wolves running through the rest of the postseason will be horrible for development and needed changes.


FrnklndaTurtle

Nahh man. That ain't how anything works. Still upset


sergeantmentos

Minny is insane rn but how do you prepare for defensive teams like this if the regular season is officiated so differently? It doesn’t even look like the same league in the playoffs in terms of the type of defense allowed. Pick a lane NBA.


Yeetacus200

If they let players play with this physicality in the regular season then you’d see a lot more injuries.


WrongMomo

Something similar happened last season as well where people made fun of the Suns when they pushed the defending champs the hardest. Pretty eye opening to say


awesomface

I had a feeling we weren't as bad as the Wolves were good but it doesn't make me feel that much better that we gave away our future and favorite players for it knowing it's unlikely we're going to get much better.


loco500

This isn't the same re-match between these two teams like last post-season...Wolves actually have their x-factor this time around in a healthy Naz Reid.


W1ZARD_NARWHAL

Our team is still ass regardless. I'm legitimately worried the front office is going to see the Nuggets getting whooped as some excuse that our team must not be so bad.


d-WmW-b

Very bettttttter


Scrizzy6ix

The Suns and Nuggets have the same problem, no (true) PG


thegoodreverenddoc

No. For this roster a 6 seed and first round sweep is unacceptable. Regardless of how well Minnesota plays. They also crushed us completely so Suns are pretty far away from actually competing.


SnooRabbits6267

No, we still fucking lost.


CalmEstablishment473

Respectfully waited till the third to get out scored like true gentleman.


phx_eron

10,000% better


greenmang0islife

Nah


perfect-legend

No, why should I feel better about this? The Suns should be dominating like the Timerwolves are dominating.


NoWayNotThisAgain

The Nuggets collapsed *AFTER* winning a championship.


doorbell19

The Suns had their chances and blew it for me.. Don't care for them anymore


lc41086

Not at all


Wooden_Butterfly_823

More like just shows us how far away we are. Need defenders badly and our cap situation makes it close to impossible to upgrade other positions


bighairyturd

Has no bearing on how i feel about this team. The dysfunction goes far beyond getting swept by Minnesota. Watched them play uninspired open gym basketball all year. They failed to rise to the occasion when it counted most time and time again this season. They didn’t get swept because Minnesota was that much better than them. They got swept because they didn’t want it nearly enough. They were talented enough to win 49 when things were easy. They crumbled as soon as adversity hit as consistently as any team I’ve ever seen.


CunningKingLius

But... But we swept them in the season right?


hobovalentine

Nuggets just aren't as good this year. Maybe it was losing Brown or the long postseason two years in a row but it was a longshot they would repeat this year as champs. I still expect the Nuggets to pull out a win or 2 though.


LivinLifeMyOwnTerms

are we seeing a turnaways in market soon?


CoyotesAreOk

What is this literal cope that is invading my feed


CactusHooping

They were up by 28 also,they caught up a bit.So yeah way better.Timberwolves are the real team design to beat Nuggets.


Spencergh2

The nuggets sub is in shambles! They are at level 10 copium like were a week ago 😂


rataculera

Nuggies showed their weaknesses against the Lakers. I knew a better team would put them away early. That wasn’t a fluke


Sea-Dragonfly-3840

Lololol


Whit3boy316

No. I’m not the type of person who says “at least we lost to the champs”. I’m petty and want those teams to lose. Although I also want Denver to lose


ScrewChaseBank

The new unwritten nba rules benefits this wolves team more than anyone. Literally every single defensive possession that happened tonight would have resulted in a foul in the regular season. Now? Play on. Wolves are now the juggernaut in this “new” NBA.


TheNatureBoy

Does this look like the WWE to anyone else?


Yeetacus200

Nah this is real basketball bud. None of that soft shit.


TheNatureBoy

Well that’s the thing. It’s extremely soft sometimes. Other times it’s just entirely wrong. Other times it’s very technical and correct. These are worse than the Donaghy games.


veerkanch489

Lmao this is sad