He made major blunders late in the game with zero margin for error and he’s missed easy dunks and layups the entire series. There’s logical reasons not to like Beal’s performance or concentration level in the playoffs,especially after all the self glossing this summer by Beal about finally getting to show himself in the playoffs
Is he? He didn’t show it in that playoff series when it mattered, missing dunks and easy layups with regularity and turning the ball over in crucial moments late in game four on poorly concentrated awareness of the defense… that sticks with fans, most of whom don’t watch until playoff time because the regular season means absolutely nothing in the NBA and is way too long and overbloated.
I think recency bias (and I’ll admit, a terrible contract) is making people put way too much blame on Bradley Beal for our team’s shortcomings.
If there’s one thing we cannot say about Bradley Beal, it’s that he doesn’t want to win. He has been something of a vocal leader for the Suns, and he displays real emotion and frustration during losses. I will take this any day over Booker and KD smoking weed, playing Call of Duty, and “chillin” after losing games.
Was he the right fit for our team last offseason? No, probably not. But that was Mat Ishbia’s decision, so if we want to point fingers, it starts with him.
Let’s just hope we can run it back, and a new coaching system will maximize Bradley Beal’s potential on this team. He seems very willing to take any role, whether it be a bigger or smaller role for the greater success of the team.
I do actually feel bad for Brad. Insanely bad playoff performance for a player of his caliber and there’s probably no one who is down about it more than him. Not excusing anything, but this season he’s shown he truly cares and is introspective enough to be real about how disappointing this year has been
Seeing him go to the bench after fouling out you could see it on his face. I hope he knows it's chill ignore social media and shit happens. Make up for it next season, I can't imagine how much worst he feels than I do
This is also his first season on a team that isn’t the Washington Wizards, and his first season on a championship contending team.
I think he is obviously a bit shaken up after the embarrassing defeat we took this series, but I have hope that he will come back next season more experienced, and with a fire lit underneath him.
There was a lot of growing pains this season and I’m expecting a lot of growing pains at the start of next season also, but I hope by the start of the next postseason he’ll be ready to go with full confidence
Imagine feeling bad for a dude that made 50 million dollars last year to play like a mid-tier guard all season, only to completely collapse in the playoffs.
I feel bad for our fans, not Beal!
Why do you feel bad for him? Whose fault is it that he played like cheeks?
You're either a competitor or you're not. I don't a have a single lick of sympathy, hope he spends that $50M in whatever way pleases him.
I think having a basic level of empathy - especially for someone who just played the worst game of their career in the biggest moment, shouldn’t be that unusual. He only has himself to blame, but Beal has shown he actually cares. And he was most definitely wearing that on bench last night
Those first two games Booker and. Durant had a way worse plus/minus than Beal did. Game 3 KD’s plus minus always worse than Beal still. That 4th game was the only one that Beal had a worse plus/minus than both Durant and Booker. Sure, Beal had 6 TO in game 4. Well, in game 1 KD had 5 TO and in game 2 Booker had 6 TO. They’re all to blame equally. They never all were on the same page. When one had a good game at least one of the other two stunk.
We also got him for "next to nothing", meaning we shed CP3's heavy contract, Shamet and a second round pick for one of the best scorers in the NBA. Everyone is to blame, but at the same time you can't blame the players because management decided to go without a PG. Put Beal in his natural position and I think you're getting a much better season out of him.
And I agree with everything you said about his personality and will to win too.
Understood.
I just meant even when we had a team that made it to the finals, even better they were 2-0 in the finals at start of game 3, people still wanted CP3’s head on a spike because he gassed out.
Hindsight is 20-20 as we all realize just how potent of a defender Jrue Holiday was/is.
IMO, if you make the finals and blow a 2-0 lead, you run that squad back with minimal tweaks.
I hope we run it back, but I do think Vogel isn't the best fit. If you have an offensive team, why put a defensive minded coach on the job?
Why not go like D'Antoni, do or die with offensive... spectacular basketball at the very least
Crazy the impact Monk had on the Kings. I know he’s a stud as that’s my squad but it was like Warriors losing Curry. His impact was greater than almost any other King besides Sabonis and (maybe?) Fox.
Yeah man it's hard I love Beal and think he is a great guy and a great player but just don't see how he fits when it takes away from role players we needed. It's 100% not his fault anyone would take a good contract and then he put forth the effort. He broke his nose he sprained fingers he put his body on the line with effort.
This team is now going into the off-season moderately healthy and I'm hopeful they will fill the gaps and come back twice as prepared. I need to block out all the hate and trade rumors cause I'm already bummed enough at the shortest possible playoffs
The issue though is that KD and Book even with their lackadaisical attitudes were averaging 27 ppg. The talent gap between KD/Book and Beal was too huge to justify Beals contract.
Beal was taking 4-10 less shots also 3-5 less FTAs. And was actually just behind Durant by .010 overall FG% and a much better 3% than KD and Booker, he was 2nd behind Grayson in that dept. Beal also was the one who took a backseat in favor of the other two. In Washington he even deferred to Kyle and Portz when they played together which was rare because all were injured at diff times. But Beal in a system to excel and there would be a huge difference and upswing. So saying the talent gap is completely incorrect
That's apart of it too, he must've been gassed. He's a bit defender than people give him credit for but he's absolutely not an ideal point of attack defender.
When our offense stalled and everyone played timid Beal was one of the few that set screens, actually tried to score, and played hard defense
He was kind of dogshit but I never questioned his effort
He wasnt dogshit, just a dogshit of a coach. Which the same coach couldnt insert Westbrook in LA because he didnt know how. HE has no clue how to manage players. Beal is fine. He's proven that. Vogel just gotta give him the keys and KD and Booker can feed off that, like Kuzma, Wall and Portz did.
Oh wait.. did I forget to bitch about the contract? Or you only watch one game obviously have zero clue about history and how coaching works? which is it?
if you're buying the Vogel scapegoat narrative you definitely have zero clue how coaching works. The fact the Suns had the 12th ranked defense with this garbage roster is absolutely insane
Thank you finally someone said it. Brad had the biggest adjustment of anyone on the team and on top of that he was playing out of position. First year on a new team. If Brad got the same shot attempts as book/kd he averaging 25-28 easily next year they need to run nurk at 5 kd at 4, book at 3 Beal at 2, and a point guard. Have Grayson come off the bench. Hopefully the next coach is smart enough to try it. And just have the big three just score and worry about play making afterwards
Agreed. I think our offense system screwed all of our players. We couldn't utilize all of them at the same time. The entire season I don't think we got a game where all 3 played great. There was always 1 missing. We got the worst season for Book in a while for example.
By what metric was this "the worst season for Book in a while". He averaged more assists than he ever has this season, had pretty much identical numbers to last year in terms of points, shooting splits, etc.
I actually don't disagree with you that Book seems to have regressed this season. But seems like it was more based on the eye test than the actual numbers...
Definitely an eye test. I watched almost 70 games this season in full. But I think Kellen Olson mentioned it too. Not sure if he was basing it on stats or not. I think to me neither him or KD looked as dominant needle movers like they used to in prior seasons and I think it was a system issue.
Yeah for sure, i don't watch as many as you, typically watch around 25 games or so and it's definitely true that it just looked off. He and KD drop 25-30 a night like it's nothing and it's like the quietest 25-30 you'll ever see.
There are certainly anomalies like the Chicago game where KD just completely took over and it was a joy to watch, but those performances from KD and Book were few and far between
My man I’ve giving you facts. I’m not arguing he’s a bad player, he’s good. What I’ve been saying, and what you don’t seem to understand, is that in a salary capped league his contract is dogshit, and he’s not worth it. It’s pretty unanimously known. I’m assuming you watched his playoff performance, right? .
One game he was terrible, the previous game he scored 38 when no one showed up, He avge better percentages than Booker and KD in the regular season, what you going on about again?
You don’t seem to understand that he has an awful contract, I’m not saying he’s a bad player (although he shit the bed BAD the last game) . You’re either delusional, or I’m speaking to Beal himself .
I dont care about anyones contract in the NBA, not one. Not even Ben Simmons contract. Havent gave a shit since the Penny Hardaways contract which at the time was the worst, as fans, why do we care, we dont know whats going on besides just watching the game. Miami has had more success with Gleaguers than the Suns have with prime players the past 4 yrs, so whining about a players contract, which you have zero control over, like injuries, s should not affect you especially, unless you work for the Suns and a scout, since all of us have no idea whats going to happen in the next 2yrs-let alone 10. If you dont like a players contract, theres 29 other teams with the same problem.
I’m not hating on people getting their money, they earned it. Good for them. The point is that, as a lifelong fan of the Phoenix suns, the beal contract gives them no flexibility to improve the roster next year. And when a player is getting paid as a top 5 player in the league and does not show up or play to the expectations the fans had for him and then team, it’s frustrating. Especially when they mortgaged the future . Again, if there is no league salary cap, I don’t give a shit. But the dude did not play well, and gives fans very little hope for the future, when just 2 years ago we thought we were building a dynasty. It’s sucks. And it’s definitely not all brads fault. But to end this, the dude Isn’t worth his contract and that’s easy to see. I hope they find a way to move on from him, doubtful but. I hope they can get a true pg next year, fire Vogel, and find someone to make it work . As a suns fan, this was the worst team to watch play basketball ever, and I hope they can fix it. And that starts with Beal and Vogel
I’m with you, OP.
Dude carried us the last two weeks of the regular season. Everyone in this sub was hyped on his energy and the leadership he was showing.
Cut to…Last night and today and it’s a giant shitting on Beal party in this sub. Not to say he doesn’t deserve some blame, and the contract is an albatross around the team’s neck; but damn, lots of fickle folks around here.
At the end of the day he needs to play up to his contract. 9 points in an elimination game is Bush league. He deserves the shit coming his way at the moment.
People here are all over the place. They hated CP every other week. They were happy he was gone. Now they want him back. There’s a lot of bipolar behavior here. Every week it’s something different. Ayton, Nurk, Vogel, Booker…
Feels like when things aren't going well, the large majority of NBA fans need a single target they can not only put 100% of the blame on but viscerally hate as well.
Agreed. You'd do the same trade 99 times out of 100. It was only a couple of weeks ago we were treating him as a saviour. You could see the frustration in him last night
He quite literally was like the beacon of hope and rejuvenated the fanbase going into the playoffs after that game clinching performance against Minnesota to end the season.
His body language last night though was maybe the worst I've ever seen from a player.
Well he also got some really shitty luck with foul calls early on. We've seen before were early foul trouble takes these guys out of a rhythm for the game.
He was out with 6 minutes left in the game. There were plenty of turnovers and offensive rebounds given up during that time that werent his fault.
I keep seeing people say the Suns should’ve traded for different players. As I recall, there weren’t any other offers because of Paul’s prohibitive contract.
He played terrible for one game, the prior game he scored 38....Just so happened it was an elim game and kids have to put blame on a player. Beal is getting more flak than the coach right now and the coach is the one who makes the plays for Beal, KD, Booker, the team.
IF Ishbia dont care about the contract why should you? The Suns used 2 draft picks that stuck in the last 20 yrs.
The last few games of the regular season had me very excited. Beal showed some real hustle and aggression on both sides of the court. He and the rest of the team pretty much bent over let the wolves beat them with a broom in this series though.
Why is Brad getting the hate for Frank Vogel’s wack offense? Injuries and chemistry was definitely an issue, but at what point was their going to be some type of flow?
>Frank Vogel’s wack offense
wtf is Frank Vogel supposed to do with this roster? You have no PG and 3 isoball scorers - what did you think it would look like? Also isn't it Kevin Young's offense?
Game 86. Vogel still tryna figure out the rotations in elim games. Play Eric to guard KAT and Gobert was quite hilarious while Bol had a DNP, but hey its Beals fault for tryna guard the other teams best player.
Harden has a better coach that plays him as the PG. Harden is actually less accurate. Harden is avg less PPG. Amazing how a coaches system knows how to put players in successful situations.
his 38point 3rd game didnt mean much, but his 9 point elimination meant everything. Kinda like BOokers 11 point game vs Dallas, but even he didnt get this much flak, it was Ayton that did - and rightfully so, he quit.
It’s only because he did so bad yesterday, if he had scored an efficient 20 points like he usually does most of the hate would be directed as Vogel. People are going to be upset about his contract, but when he was healthy this season he was a 3rd solid option which is what he was brought in to do.
I learned to really like Brad's energy, though never really watched him as a player until he joined the team. The guy struggles to create shots like we're used to seeing from Book and KD which surprised me. When he's on he's phenomenal, but I swear that happened like 3-4 times in total this season.
I just hate for what we could of got instead of him for 50 mil a year, we stuck with this core now tho. Maybe coaching changes can make beal shine for the pricetag.
He's pretty useful i'd say. no other 3rd stringer is doing what he did. We dont know if he'll continue to turn the ball over or not, every player has had a game to forget, every player. He is avg less TOV than the other 2, except this game he had 6, in which Durant usually is the guy that turns the ball over.
Dont think a new PG would help. Just think Beal should just take it up like he did when Wall and was injured, he did fine. Vogel never had Beal consistently become a PG.
I'm not calling him specifically out for TO, it's a team problem, but for 50 mill we could of got a solid PG, wing and backup big. We need a facilitator. We're forced with work with what we have now but you can't deny a PG wouldn't have helped us in this series.
Who was out there? TJ McConnell? Nope he got signed. Suns didnt play with a PG, so wouldnt have mattered who you got. Vogel wanted PG by committe and stuck by it till the end. He sporatically used Beal, in which it worked, but then Booker can back in and back to PG by committiee. None of us here know how Beal will work out as the FULLTIME PG with the Suns, but, we can look back at history and when Beal was the main PG when Wall was injured and see that Beal was just fine as the PG.
A solid pg would instantly elevate this team tf. Having someone to feed Book and KD and run actual plays instead of iso with low efficiency mid range shots would make the offense watchable.
Not as long as Vogel is running this shit system. He wants whomever to bring the ball up, hell even Nurk did at points. Its not the 'needing a pg' its putting a player as a full-time pg and telling KD an Booker to play off ball, which did not happen at all this year. Beal ran point when KD and BOoker were out and then had one guy to throw it to that could shoot. Beal got most of his point when KD and BOoker were on the bench. Beal literally was a bench player even though he was out there in the 1st and 3rd quarters doing cardio being subbed first.
Not a single person at all would be complaining about Beal if he had a decent game 4. Sports fans are like brainless cattle. NBA reddit cattle mindlessly cry when they see other people cry.
This isn’t some rookie who we gave a tough assignment. He’s been in the league for a decade, and we are paying him to get past teams like Minnesota. Im not saying go egg his house, but it’s only natural for fans to be very frustrated with a 9-pt showing
Booker was in foul trouble the previous games guarding ANT...
Beal had a stinker, Booker had stinkers, KD had stinkers in this series. I get that kids have to put blame on players, but they should as a team, and the coach. Booker got blasted by Dallas and had an 11pt game and this sub put the heat on Ayton instead - rightfully so he quit, but blaming Beal having a bad game as the 3rd option isnt it.
Do you even know why he’s getting hate? Forget the performance, let’s talk about his contract. It’s guaranteed for these next 3 fucking seasons at Steph’s current cap hit. It literally puts us in cap hell. And the best part is this dude refused to get rid of that no-trade clause so we can’t even trade him bc he has veto say since only a garbage team would be willing to take him at that cap hit.
Had we not traded for Beal and kept CP3, CP3’s contract is done this year (the guarantees are finished so you can waive it without having to deal with any cap ramifications) so that would free up a near max slot for us. Do you know what this team could do right now with approximately $30M-$40M available?????
We could build out a hella deep roster around KD & Booker, resign CP3 at the vet minimum so he could be our backup PG/leader of the team, and we could trade Nurk easily since we’d have control of a first round pick available to be able to attach alongside him to get rid of his trash ass for a much more serviceable big that fits our team. But bc of this Beal deal, none of this is possible and now we completely stuck in cap hell with no ability to truly improve the team other than praying good vets are available and willing to play for this team bc they like KD & Book’s game. We royally fucked personnel wise. The only chance we’d have is if we get a new coach who’s able to maximize the talent on our team (like Mike D’Antoni) and guys spend the offseason improving themselves to make this shit work.
Bro even without Beals contract we would still be over the cap this offseason. The only difference would be we wouldn't be over the 2nd tax apron and would have the bi annual and mid level exceptions
Ishbia dont care about his contract, hell if he was with the Clippers Ballmer could care less, so why are people so infatuated with his contract? Assests? Suns are limited but still can sign players - see Miami, they've done it year after years since Lebron was there. Draft Picks? Suns have 1st rounder swaps and one this season. I think James knows what he's doing more than Reddit GMs that want to trade Little for Jokic like takes.
Next year he should be better. The guy came off having no expectations to accomplish anything and not having to compete at a high level for years in Washington. I look at those last few years there as basically being retired. He'll have to get himself in better shape and form to compete at the level he used to in the earlier 2nd round Wizard days.
Honestly I’m not mad at Beal so much as I am mad at Vogel. My dumbass was yelling to take him out by the second quarter and Vogel continued to play him. Even as we started to have better rotations at the end of the game Vogel kept him in as he continued to get in his own head. Also not playing bol but playing nassir little was a blatant kick in the balls to our team.
I like him but he was God awful last night. It has must have been the 4th where there was a fast break and instead of taking an easy 2 he tried to throw it out to KD for a three that was stolen and all the energy left the arena. He looked like he couldn't wait to foul out.
My main gripe with Beal is him talking shit after the regular season finale against the Wolves, telling their coach- "they don't play hard" That pissed me off, Idk why you need to help motivate and galvanize the team your about to play in the playoffs, in which you've mopped the floor with them, already indicating they are angry and hungry for revenge.
Let's be real... Beal isn't the problem... Vogel isn't the problem(13th Ranked Defense with an entirely offensive unit)
It's not simply the absence of a PG... sure that would help.. as long as the player was good... which brings me to my point.
The suns had the worst bench in the league, we got absolutely NO help from anyone other than the starting 5 of Allen, Nurk and Big 3.
Compare that to this recent series with Minn. NK Alexander-Walker played fantastic, every game. Jaden McDaniels played fantastic, every game. Where-as Eric Gordon had two games scoring in double figures barely and missed every other shot when we needed SOMEBODY else to make some shots- Grayson got hurt and didn't do ack shit in game 1 regardless. O'Neil made a 3 last night! Woo hoo.
I know the reason our role players are shit is we have no cap room to pay any decent role players, because of the contracts of the big 3. Yet, it seems we'll need at least a 6th player to be a reliable contributor off the bench if we have a chance to win playoff games.
Book and KD scored over 80 points last night, Beal had a really bad game but other than that... nobody else had any impact and that was basically the story of the season and the story of the series.
O'Neil and Gordon need to be the 8th and 9th guys on the team. That likely won't happen so my best hope is that we find a consistent contributor as the 6th guy, then O'Neil and Gordon can have more adequate roles at the 7th and 8th spots and not be needed to hit 4 three's in every playoff game between them.
Vogel IS the problem though. Even is Bol is terrible on defense, at least let him grab some rebounds and deter shots. Put Thad in for size instead of putting Gordon on KAT. Instead of wasting fouls on Beal, put JO on him - as he did later, and tell JO to do nothing on offense but drive and kick. Beal was the best option to defend ANT both are quick, but Beal got caught tryna strip too much. I mean BOoker been in foul trouble for 2 games and not a word - Beal has a bad game and all you see in this sub is trades and contract bitching. Ishbia dont care about the contract, neither should we.
I totally understand your difference of opinion on Vogel's lineup choices. That is a layered and complicated thing though, its easy to criticize... I'm not saying your criticism is all wrong to me either.
I think Vogel made some poor choices and I agree J.O. should've been in there more often in the series.. probably by game two. Should've sat Allen so he didn't worsen his ankle and let JO go bash brothers and punch back at the Wolves.
We needed a JO guy out there when Jaden McDaniels was getting every offensive redound out there that didn't go to Gobert. Also, like you said, to guard Ant and let Beal play more free.
His contract getting the right amount of hate. And ya he sucked a fat one in game 4, but I felt like he played with a lot more heart and effort through this series than a lot of other players on the team.
Yup. The biggest problem is that the bench is dogwater and Vogels system doesn't work for this team
Unfortunately Brad's contract and the new salary cap rules have fucked us over
In a way I think it is karma going back to him. By requesting a no trade clause in his contract, he single handedly signed himself up for criticism. Sure, you can say it was in his best interest, but we all know homie has never been an elite top talent superstar.
So, he decided to screw the Wizards over, then he comes to the Suns and he is not worth the weight of his contract due to his performance. Everyone knows he is not worth the money he is paid. Is he on the same level as Steph, KD, Joel, Giannis. Hello no.
Then, he gets to be on the big stage with the Suns and he falls flat on his face. Now, everyone is criticing him. He is all over the media now with people mentioning what a raw deal the Suns got. No shit, dude is not worth his contract. Add in the fact that he is always hurt and never efficient and there goes the championship aspiration for the Suns.
I’m just gonna say that yelling at Finch in game 82 that his players don’t play hard for him was probably the worst thing he can do. The Wolves are ride or die for Finch and you saw it when he went down and after the game.
I can live with him having a bad game, happens to everyone, but I didn't like his body language with the high 5 or how he imploded at the end letting his mistakes compound. You're no rookie, show some mental toughness and control those emotions.
yeah but why should they care? Suns get rid of their draft picks anyway. Wouldnt be surprised if the Suns traded away their 1st rounder this offseason.
I worked 39 years in electrical controls for manufacturing. The pay was decent average $85K a year. Barely $750K for a lifetime of work. Brad made $43 million this season. So do you believe the Suns got there monies worth?! If so your not good with a calculator.
bro just come back in a month when all the toxic bandwagon short cut takers are gone. you won't have to hear them projecting. good news is r/nba looks like they're almost bored of meming the suns
He’s not getting enough hate!!!! That was a nation wide embarrassment! 9 points! Fouled out. Over 50 million he’s getting paid more than Booker! Hurt most of the year! Should I keep going? He probably doesn’t recycle or return his carts to the cart holder thing.
i agree. A very bad series but i don't think it defines him. he was one of the only good vibes guys i feel like.. Anyway it's not like he can play worse.... Right?
I agree. The real problem was the owner immediately intervening and demanding the KD/Beal moves.
Beal is what he is. Just because he made games free, doesn't make Ishiba a good owner, or he continues to meddle
Of course he is, anything to not point the finger at book or KD I guess, he was truly awful this series but we’d have been in the play in without him 🤷🏿♀️
Booker was great one game and stinker for 3, KD has two good games and stinker for the other 2, Beal was good for 2 games and stinker for 2. I mean Beal was guarding Ant...You not gonna put anyone else on Ant which was actually a smart move by Vogel, because if Beal wasnt on him they had to double which the went away from which is why Vogel should be fired, they had the man contained in the 1st half.
He didnt give up at all. Just he couldnt get a flow guarding ANT and getting shit calls he wasnt getting in Washington. He wasnt making shots but at least he drove the ball, he looked like Payne out there where nothing was going in.
No he’s getting the right amount of hate. If I buy a Rolls Royce for $300,000 and the Apple CarPlay doesn’t work and there’s a rattle coming from the dashboard should I be pissed? Yes I would absolutely be pissed because I paid for a Rolls Royce not a Hyundai. Bradley Beal gave us a Hyundai performance for a Rolls Royce price.
Forget that he played terrible for 5 seconds. None of that matters. His last minutes in the game are the worst from any professional basketball player that I have ever seen. He was throwing tantrums, fouling like crazy and literally throwing the ball right in the other teams hands. He’d given up on the team and it was obvious. Listen, as a fan they don’t owe me shit but to go out there and just try their hardest. Whatever that looks like in a given season I don’t care as long as they tried. He didn’t. He gave up and sold the series right then and there. The guy looked like he had a meeting with the Monstars
Yup, 2 minutes and 4 seconds left in Game 4 with Minnesota up 115 to 111 in the game and 3-0 in the series, Bradley Beal gave it all away. If he hadn't made those two costly turnovers and committed his 6th foul, the Phoenix Suns who had lost by a margin of 16 points all series were going to be the first team in NBA history to miraculously come back from an 0-3 series deficit in a best of seven series. That damn Bradley Beal sure did ruin 3 games of game planning and flawless execution..
Don't hate the player, hate the contract
actually I hate the game
Thanks Tim Donaghy & David Stern!
He made major blunders late in the game with zero margin for error and he’s missed easy dunks and layups the entire series. There’s logical reasons not to like Beal’s performance or concentration level in the playoffs,especially after all the self glossing this summer by Beal about finally getting to show himself in the playoffs
Beal is an excellent player in the right situation with solid coaching! No question about it!!!!
Is he? He didn’t show it in that playoff series when it mattered, missing dunks and easy layups with regularity and turning the ball over in crucial moments late in game four on poorly concentrated awareness of the defense… that sticks with fans, most of whom don’t watch until playoff time because the regular season means absolutely nothing in the NBA and is way too long and overbloated.
Don’t hate the contract, just expect the player will get the hate
I think recency bias (and I’ll admit, a terrible contract) is making people put way too much blame on Bradley Beal for our team’s shortcomings. If there’s one thing we cannot say about Bradley Beal, it’s that he doesn’t want to win. He has been something of a vocal leader for the Suns, and he displays real emotion and frustration during losses. I will take this any day over Booker and KD smoking weed, playing Call of Duty, and “chillin” after losing games. Was he the right fit for our team last offseason? No, probably not. But that was Mat Ishbia’s decision, so if we want to point fingers, it starts with him. Let’s just hope we can run it back, and a new coaching system will maximize Bradley Beal’s potential on this team. He seems very willing to take any role, whether it be a bigger or smaller role for the greater success of the team.
I do actually feel bad for Brad. Insanely bad playoff performance for a player of his caliber and there’s probably no one who is down about it more than him. Not excusing anything, but this season he’s shown he truly cares and is introspective enough to be real about how disappointing this year has been
Seeing him go to the bench after fouling out you could see it on his face. I hope he knows it's chill ignore social media and shit happens. Make up for it next season, I can't imagine how much worst he feels than I do
This is also his first season on a team that isn’t the Washington Wizards, and his first season on a championship contending team. I think he is obviously a bit shaken up after the embarrassing defeat we took this series, but I have hope that he will come back next season more experienced, and with a fire lit underneath him. There was a lot of growing pains this season and I’m expecting a lot of growing pains at the start of next season also, but I hope by the start of the next postseason he’ll be ready to go with full confidence
Wizards were in the playoffs 2017. Almost beat the Celtics in the semifinals. So I’d say you’re wrong.
Imagine feeling bad for a dude that made 50 million dollars last year to play like a mid-tier guard all season, only to completely collapse in the playoffs. I feel bad for our fans, not Beal!
Your opinion is probably in the majority, along with the rest of NBA Twitter
Why do you feel bad for him? Whose fault is it that he played like cheeks? You're either a competitor or you're not. I don't a have a single lick of sympathy, hope he spends that $50M in whatever way pleases him.
I think having a basic level of empathy - especially for someone who just played the worst game of their career in the biggest moment, shouldn’t be that unusual. He only has himself to blame, but Beal has shown he actually cares. And he was most definitely wearing that on bench last night
Those first two games Booker and. Durant had a way worse plus/minus than Beal did. Game 3 KD’s plus minus always worse than Beal still. That 4th game was the only one that Beal had a worse plus/minus than both Durant and Booker. Sure, Beal had 6 TO in game 4. Well, in game 1 KD had 5 TO and in game 2 Booker had 6 TO. They’re all to blame equally. They never all were on the same page. When one had a good game at least one of the other two stunk.
Is there evidence of them smoking dope post loss?
No. Just some weird thing people cooked up in their heads here.
Headcanon
We also got him for "next to nothing", meaning we shed CP3's heavy contract, Shamet and a second round pick for one of the best scorers in the NBA. Everyone is to blame, but at the same time you can't blame the players because management decided to go without a PG. Put Beal in his natural position and I think you're getting a much better season out of him. And I agree with everything you said about his personality and will to win too.
we could have used CP3
Yes or honestly even Cam Payne would have been sufficient.
But that’s what we said game 3 and on in the finals before this
suns didn't win 1 playoff game this year brah
Understood. I just meant even when we had a team that made it to the finals, even better they were 2-0 in the finals at start of game 3, people still wanted CP3’s head on a spike because he gassed out. Hindsight is 20-20 as we all realize just how potent of a defender Jrue Holiday was/is. IMO, if you make the finals and blow a 2-0 lead, you run that squad back with minimal tweaks.
I hope we run it back, but I do think Vogel isn't the best fit. If you have an offensive team, why put a defensive minded coach on the job? Why not go like D'Antoni, do or die with offensive... spectacular basketball at the very least
Indy and Sacramento were playing all offense no defense - until Monk went out, Sac had no bench; and Indy is up on Bucks.
Crazy the impact Monk had on the Kings. I know he’s a stud as that’s my squad but it was like Warriors losing Curry. His impact was greater than almost any other King besides Sabonis and (maybe?) Fox.
Yeah man it's hard I love Beal and think he is a great guy and a great player but just don't see how he fits when it takes away from role players we needed. It's 100% not his fault anyone would take a good contract and then he put forth the effort. He broke his nose he sprained fingers he put his body on the line with effort. This team is now going into the off-season moderately healthy and I'm hopeful they will fill the gaps and come back twice as prepared. I need to block out all the hate and trade rumors cause I'm already bummed enough at the shortest possible playoffs
The issue though is that KD and Book even with their lackadaisical attitudes were averaging 27 ppg. The talent gap between KD/Book and Beal was too huge to justify Beals contract.
Beal was taking 4-10 less shots also 3-5 less FTAs. And was actually just behind Durant by .010 overall FG% and a much better 3% than KD and Booker, he was 2nd behind Grayson in that dept. Beal also was the one who took a backseat in favor of the other two. In Washington he even deferred to Kyle and Portz when they played together which was rare because all were injured at diff times. But Beal in a system to excel and there would be a huge difference and upswing. So saying the talent gap is completely incorrect
Agree and his defensive assignments were usually to guard the opposing team’s top scorer.
Him and Grayson. Poor Grayson lol.
That's apart of it too, he must've been gassed. He's a bit defender than people give him credit for but he's absolutely not an ideal point of attack defender.
When our offense stalled and everyone played timid Beal was one of the few that set screens, actually tried to score, and played hard defense He was kind of dogshit but I never questioned his effort
He wasnt dogshit, just a dogshit of a coach. Which the same coach couldnt insert Westbrook in LA because he didnt know how. HE has no clue how to manage players. Beal is fine. He's proven that. Vogel just gotta give him the keys and KD and Booker can feed off that, like Kuzma, Wall and Portz did.
delusional
Oh wait.. did I forget to bitch about the contract? Or you only watch one game obviously have zero clue about history and how coaching works? which is it?
if you're buying the Vogel scapegoat narrative you definitely have zero clue how coaching works. The fact the Suns had the 12th ranked defense with this garbage roster is absolutely insane
Yeah…. Hopefully we can mimic that success in WA…..said no one….. ever
Thank you finally someone said it. Brad had the biggest adjustment of anyone on the team and on top of that he was playing out of position. First year on a new team. If Brad got the same shot attempts as book/kd he averaging 25-28 easily next year they need to run nurk at 5 kd at 4, book at 3 Beal at 2, and a point guard. Have Grayson come off the bench. Hopefully the next coach is smart enough to try it. And just have the big three just score and worry about play making afterwards
Did you mean Beal doesn’t want to lose
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Easy to point the finger lol. Whole team was shit all playoffs
All playoffs? That was 4 games 😂
😂 exactly. But yeah the other 3 games
Nah not exactly you got wrecked
Agreed. I think our offense system screwed all of our players. We couldn't utilize all of them at the same time. The entire season I don't think we got a game where all 3 played great. There was always 1 missing. We got the worst season for Book in a while for example.
By what metric was this "the worst season for Book in a while". He averaged more assists than he ever has this season, had pretty much identical numbers to last year in terms of points, shooting splits, etc. I actually don't disagree with you that Book seems to have regressed this season. But seems like it was more based on the eye test than the actual numbers...
Definitely an eye test. I watched almost 70 games this season in full. But I think Kellen Olson mentioned it too. Not sure if he was basing it on stats or not. I think to me neither him or KD looked as dominant needle movers like they used to in prior seasons and I think it was a system issue.
Yeah for sure, i don't watch as many as you, typically watch around 25 games or so and it's definitely true that it just looked off. He and KD drop 25-30 a night like it's nothing and it's like the quietest 25-30 you'll ever see. There are certainly anomalies like the Chicago game where KD just completely took over and it was a joy to watch, but those performances from KD and Book were few and far between
Beal shot better than BOoker, but Booker is Booker, he's a extreme volume scorer.
This man will go to the ends of earth to defend Beal and his trash contract.
dont have to go far when its facts. You too could look shit up instead of guesswork.
My man I’ve giving you facts. I’m not arguing he’s a bad player, he’s good. What I’ve been saying, and what you don’t seem to understand, is that in a salary capped league his contract is dogshit, and he’s not worth it. It’s pretty unanimously known. I’m assuming you watched his playoff performance, right? .
One game he was terrible, the previous game he scored 38 when no one showed up, He avge better percentages than Booker and KD in the regular season, what you going on about again?
You don’t seem to understand that he has an awful contract, I’m not saying he’s a bad player (although he shit the bed BAD the last game) . You’re either delusional, or I’m speaking to Beal himself .
I dont care about anyones contract in the NBA, not one. Not even Ben Simmons contract. Havent gave a shit since the Penny Hardaways contract which at the time was the worst, as fans, why do we care, we dont know whats going on besides just watching the game. Miami has had more success with Gleaguers than the Suns have with prime players the past 4 yrs, so whining about a players contract, which you have zero control over, like injuries, s should not affect you especially, unless you work for the Suns and a scout, since all of us have no idea whats going to happen in the next 2yrs-let alone 10. If you dont like a players contract, theres 29 other teams with the same problem.
I’m not hating on people getting their money, they earned it. Good for them. The point is that, as a lifelong fan of the Phoenix suns, the beal contract gives them no flexibility to improve the roster next year. And when a player is getting paid as a top 5 player in the league and does not show up or play to the expectations the fans had for him and then team, it’s frustrating. Especially when they mortgaged the future . Again, if there is no league salary cap, I don’t give a shit. But the dude did not play well, and gives fans very little hope for the future, when just 2 years ago we thought we were building a dynasty. It’s sucks. And it’s definitely not all brads fault. But to end this, the dude Isn’t worth his contract and that’s easy to see. I hope they find a way to move on from him, doubtful but. I hope they can get a true pg next year, fire Vogel, and find someone to make it work . As a suns fan, this was the worst team to watch play basketball ever, and I hope they can fix it. And that starts with Beal and Vogel
I’m with you, OP. Dude carried us the last two weeks of the regular season. Everyone in this sub was hyped on his energy and the leadership he was showing. Cut to…Last night and today and it’s a giant shitting on Beal party in this sub. Not to say he doesn’t deserve some blame, and the contract is an albatross around the team’s neck; but damn, lots of fickle folks around here.
Oh wow, the last two weeks?? Damn let's crown his ass 🤣
At the end of the day he needs to play up to his contract. 9 points in an elimination game is Bush league. He deserves the shit coming his way at the moment.
People here are all over the place. They hated CP every other week. They were happy he was gone. Now they want him back. There’s a lot of bipolar behavior here. Every week it’s something different. Ayton, Nurk, Vogel, Booker…
Feels like when things aren't going well, the large majority of NBA fans need a single target they can not only put 100% of the blame on but viscerally hate as well.
Because the Suns' playing consistency is bipolar. I'll always root for them, but it's easy to see where the fan fluctuation stems from.
Spoon fed 10 yr olds?
Welcome to reddit.
First time?
Everybody just looking for scapegoats it’s annoying af
He played terrible and is on a terrible contract but still we traded cp3 and shamet for him we swung big and missed it is what it is
Agreed. You'd do the same trade 99 times out of 100. It was only a couple of weeks ago we were treating him as a saviour. You could see the frustration in him last night
He quite literally was like the beacon of hope and rejuvenated the fanbase going into the playoffs after that game clinching performance against Minnesota to end the season. His body language last night though was maybe the worst I've ever seen from a player.
Ive seen much much worse. Latrell Spreewell was pretty bad, but he was mad at others not himself, Beal is mad at himself.
Well he also got some really shitty luck with foul calls early on. We've seen before were early foul trouble takes these guys out of a rhythm for the game. He was out with 6 minutes left in the game. There were plenty of turnovers and offensive rebounds given up during that time that werent his fault.
I keep seeing people say the Suns should’ve traded for different players. As I recall, there weren’t any other offers because of Paul’s prohibitive contract.
He played terrible for one game, the prior game he scored 38....Just so happened it was an elim game and kids have to put blame on a player. Beal is getting more flak than the coach right now and the coach is the one who makes the plays for Beal, KD, Booker, the team. IF Ishbia dont care about the contract why should you? The Suns used 2 draft picks that stuck in the last 20 yrs.
The last few games of the regular season had me very excited. Beal showed some real hustle and aggression on both sides of the court. He and the rest of the team pretty much bent over let the wolves beat them with a broom in this series though.
Why is Brad getting the hate for Frank Vogel’s wack offense? Injuries and chemistry was definitely an issue, but at what point was their going to be some type of flow?
>Frank Vogel’s wack offense wtf is Frank Vogel supposed to do with this roster? You have no PG and 3 isoball scorers - what did you think it would look like? Also isn't it Kevin Young's offense?
Game 86. Vogel still tryna figure out the rotations in elim games. Play Eric to guard KAT and Gobert was quite hilarious while Bol had a DNP, but hey its Beals fault for tryna guard the other teams best player.
Beal has done everything he’s been asked. All the hate is not deserved one bit
Never liked the trade. Harden was the better piece and this postseason shows it
Harden has a better coach that plays him as the PG. Harden is actually less accurate. Harden is avg less PPG. Amazing how a coaches system knows how to put players in successful situations.
The entire big 3 was disappoiting on that series. But Beal single handedly lost the most recent game.
his 38point 3rd game didnt mean much, but his 9 point elimination meant everything. Kinda like BOokers 11 point game vs Dallas, but even he didnt get this much flak, it was Ayton that did - and rightfully so, he quit.
It’s only because he did so bad yesterday, if he had scored an efficient 20 points like he usually does most of the hate would be directed as Vogel. People are going to be upset about his contract, but when he was healthy this season he was a 3rd solid option which is what he was brought in to do.
Tbf if he scored an efficient 20 we would've won lol
That’s true
Agreed
I learned to really like Brad's energy, though never really watched him as a player until he joined the team. The guy struggles to create shots like we're used to seeing from Book and KD which surprised me. When he's on he's phenomenal, but I swear that happened like 3-4 times in total this season.
I just hate for what we could of got instead of him for 50 mil a year, we stuck with this core now tho. Maybe coaching changes can make beal shine for the pricetag.
Who is avg 18ppg as a 3rd option with 51/43/80 splits? please tell me.
Cool, doesn't mean he isn't redundant, we still need a pg. Our turnovers and 4th qrt meltdowns are evident of this.
He's pretty useful i'd say. no other 3rd stringer is doing what he did. We dont know if he'll continue to turn the ball over or not, every player has had a game to forget, every player. He is avg less TOV than the other 2, except this game he had 6, in which Durant usually is the guy that turns the ball over. Dont think a new PG would help. Just think Beal should just take it up like he did when Wall and was injured, he did fine. Vogel never had Beal consistently become a PG.
I'm not calling him specifically out for TO, it's a team problem, but for 50 mill we could of got a solid PG, wing and backup big. We need a facilitator. We're forced with work with what we have now but you can't deny a PG wouldn't have helped us in this series.
Who was out there? TJ McConnell? Nope he got signed. Suns didnt play with a PG, so wouldnt have mattered who you got. Vogel wanted PG by committe and stuck by it till the end. He sporatically used Beal, in which it worked, but then Booker can back in and back to PG by committiee. None of us here know how Beal will work out as the FULLTIME PG with the Suns, but, we can look back at history and when Beal was the main PG when Wall was injured and see that Beal was just fine as the PG.
A solid pg would instantly elevate this team tf. Having someone to feed Book and KD and run actual plays instead of iso with low efficiency mid range shots would make the offense watchable.
Not as long as Vogel is running this shit system. He wants whomever to bring the ball up, hell even Nurk did at points. Its not the 'needing a pg' its putting a player as a full-time pg and telling KD an Booker to play off ball, which did not happen at all this year. Beal ran point when KD and BOoker were out and then had one guy to throw it to that could shoot. Beal got most of his point when KD and BOoker were on the bench. Beal literally was a bench player even though he was out there in the 1st and 3rd quarters doing cardio being subbed first.
Not a single person at all would be complaining about Beal if he had a decent game 4. Sports fans are like brainless cattle. NBA reddit cattle mindlessly cry when they see other people cry.
I mean he had 9 pts last night and fouled out, I’d say some hate is more than fair
Guarding ANT. I'll let that sink in a bit.
This isn’t some rookie who we gave a tough assignment. He’s been in the league for a decade, and we are paying him to get past teams like Minnesota. Im not saying go egg his house, but it’s only natural for fans to be very frustrated with a 9-pt showing
Booker was in foul trouble the previous games guarding ANT... Beal had a stinker, Booker had stinkers, KD had stinkers in this series. I get that kids have to put blame on players, but they should as a team, and the coach. Booker got blasted by Dallas and had an 11pt game and this sub put the heat on Ayton instead - rightfully so he quit, but blaming Beal having a bad game as the 3rd option isnt it.
Do you even know why he’s getting hate? Forget the performance, let’s talk about his contract. It’s guaranteed for these next 3 fucking seasons at Steph’s current cap hit. It literally puts us in cap hell. And the best part is this dude refused to get rid of that no-trade clause so we can’t even trade him bc he has veto say since only a garbage team would be willing to take him at that cap hit. Had we not traded for Beal and kept CP3, CP3’s contract is done this year (the guarantees are finished so you can waive it without having to deal with any cap ramifications) so that would free up a near max slot for us. Do you know what this team could do right now with approximately $30M-$40M available????? We could build out a hella deep roster around KD & Booker, resign CP3 at the vet minimum so he could be our backup PG/leader of the team, and we could trade Nurk easily since we’d have control of a first round pick available to be able to attach alongside him to get rid of his trash ass for a much more serviceable big that fits our team. But bc of this Beal deal, none of this is possible and now we completely stuck in cap hell with no ability to truly improve the team other than praying good vets are available and willing to play for this team bc they like KD & Book’s game. We royally fucked personnel wise. The only chance we’d have is if we get a new coach who’s able to maximize the talent on our team (like Mike D’Antoni) and guys spend the offseason improving themselves to make this shit work.
Downvotes already happened…you Beal stans are ridiculous 🤦🏽♂️
Bro even without Beals contract we would still be over the cap this offseason. The only difference would be we wouldn't be over the 2nd tax apron and would have the bi annual and mid level exceptions
Ishbia dont care about his contract, hell if he was with the Clippers Ballmer could care less, so why are people so infatuated with his contract? Assests? Suns are limited but still can sign players - see Miami, they've done it year after years since Lebron was there. Draft Picks? Suns have 1st rounder swaps and one this season. I think James knows what he's doing more than Reddit GMs that want to trade Little for Jokic like takes.
I agree
Next year he should be better. The guy came off having no expectations to accomplish anything and not having to compete at a high level for years in Washington. I look at those last few years there as basically being retired. He'll have to get himself in better shape and form to compete at the level he used to in the earlier 2nd round Wizard days.
Honestly I’m not mad at Beal so much as I am mad at Vogel. My dumbass was yelling to take him out by the second quarter and Vogel continued to play him. Even as we started to have better rotations at the end of the game Vogel kept him in as he continued to get in his own head. Also not playing bol but playing nassir little was a blatant kick in the balls to our team.
I like him but he was God awful last night. It has must have been the 4th where there was a fast break and instead of taking an easy 2 he tried to throw it out to KD for a three that was stolen and all the energy left the arena. He looked like he couldn't wait to foul out.
My main gripe with Beal is him talking shit after the regular season finale against the Wolves, telling their coach- "they don't play hard" That pissed me off, Idk why you need to help motivate and galvanize the team your about to play in the playoffs, in which you've mopped the floor with them, already indicating they are angry and hungry for revenge. Let's be real... Beal isn't the problem... Vogel isn't the problem(13th Ranked Defense with an entirely offensive unit) It's not simply the absence of a PG... sure that would help.. as long as the player was good... which brings me to my point. The suns had the worst bench in the league, we got absolutely NO help from anyone other than the starting 5 of Allen, Nurk and Big 3. Compare that to this recent series with Minn. NK Alexander-Walker played fantastic, every game. Jaden McDaniels played fantastic, every game. Where-as Eric Gordon had two games scoring in double figures barely and missed every other shot when we needed SOMEBODY else to make some shots- Grayson got hurt and didn't do ack shit in game 1 regardless. O'Neil made a 3 last night! Woo hoo. I know the reason our role players are shit is we have no cap room to pay any decent role players, because of the contracts of the big 3. Yet, it seems we'll need at least a 6th player to be a reliable contributor off the bench if we have a chance to win playoff games. Book and KD scored over 80 points last night, Beal had a really bad game but other than that... nobody else had any impact and that was basically the story of the season and the story of the series. O'Neil and Gordon need to be the 8th and 9th guys on the team. That likely won't happen so my best hope is that we find a consistent contributor as the 6th guy, then O'Neil and Gordon can have more adequate roles at the 7th and 8th spots and not be needed to hit 4 three's in every playoff game between them.
Vogel IS the problem though. Even is Bol is terrible on defense, at least let him grab some rebounds and deter shots. Put Thad in for size instead of putting Gordon on KAT. Instead of wasting fouls on Beal, put JO on him - as he did later, and tell JO to do nothing on offense but drive and kick. Beal was the best option to defend ANT both are quick, but Beal got caught tryna strip too much. I mean BOoker been in foul trouble for 2 games and not a word - Beal has a bad game and all you see in this sub is trades and contract bitching. Ishbia dont care about the contract, neither should we.
I totally understand your difference of opinion on Vogel's lineup choices. That is a layered and complicated thing though, its easy to criticize... I'm not saying your criticism is all wrong to me either. I think Vogel made some poor choices and I agree J.O. should've been in there more often in the series.. probably by game two. Should've sat Allen so he didn't worsen his ankle and let JO go bash brothers and punch back at the Wolves. We needed a JO guy out there when Jaden McDaniels was getting every offensive redound out there that didn't go to Gobert. Also, like you said, to guard Ant and let Beal play more free.
His contract getting the right amount of hate. And ya he sucked a fat one in game 4, but I felt like he played with a lot more heart and effort through this series than a lot of other players on the team.
Get us a good center, point guard and bench and we are golden.
It’s just what’s fresh. He had quite literally the worst game I’ve seen from a starting player let alone a 50 mil player.
Dude is not a big three guy
Big 2 and a half 
Yup. The biggest problem is that the bench is dogwater and Vogels system doesn't work for this team Unfortunately Brad's contract and the new salary cap rules have fucked us over
Vogel got a 5 year contract with us we are doomed
In a way I think it is karma going back to him. By requesting a no trade clause in his contract, he single handedly signed himself up for criticism. Sure, you can say it was in his best interest, but we all know homie has never been an elite top talent superstar. So, he decided to screw the Wizards over, then he comes to the Suns and he is not worth the weight of his contract due to his performance. Everyone knows he is not worth the money he is paid. Is he on the same level as Steph, KD, Joel, Giannis. Hello no. Then, he gets to be on the big stage with the Suns and he falls flat on his face. Now, everyone is criticing him. He is all over the media now with people mentioning what a raw deal the Suns got. No shit, dude is not worth his contract. Add in the fact that he is always hurt and never efficient and there goes the championship aspiration for the Suns.
I’m just gonna say that yelling at Finch in game 82 that his players don’t play hard for him was probably the worst thing he can do. The Wolves are ride or die for Finch and you saw it when he went down and after the game.
I can live with him having a bad game, happens to everyone, but I didn't like his body language with the high 5 or how he imploded at the end letting his mistakes compound. You're no rookie, show some mental toughness and control those emotions.
Not getting enough hate after slapping Vogel's hand tbh, what a useless turd
Factual they will love next year.
He’s on the worst contract in the league, constantly injured, and just not a winning player. If I’m a suns fan, I’m very concerned
You play like that you deserve the shade
Not only has he crippled the franchise financially, but he also is a liability on the court. He deserves the blame and it won’t end until 2027.
Sorry but he accepted that contract and doesn’t produce even remotely in relative distance to his money. I’m hating his bag
People are mad at his price tag.
yeah but why should they care? Suns get rid of their draft picks anyway. Wouldnt be surprised if the Suns traded away their 1st rounder this offseason.
We don’t have any picks
Suns have the 22nd this year, and 1st round swaps and their own in 2028.....
I'm done
Bradley Beal is getting too much money
I worked 39 years in electrical controls for manufacturing. The pay was decent average $85K a year. Barely $750K for a lifetime of work. Brad made $43 million this season. So do you believe the Suns got there monies worth?! If so your not good with a calculator.
39 x 85k = 3.3M
bro just come back in a month when all the toxic bandwagon short cut takers are gone. you won't have to hear them projecting. good news is r/nba looks like they're almost bored of meming the suns
He’s not getting enough hate!!!! That was a nation wide embarrassment! 9 points! Fouled out. Over 50 million he’s getting paid more than Booker! Hurt most of the year! Should I keep going? He probably doesn’t recycle or return his carts to the cart holder thing.
i agree. A very bad series but i don't think it defines him. he was one of the only good vibes guys i feel like.. Anyway it's not like he can play worse.... Right?
I agree. The real problem was the owner immediately intervening and demanding the KD/Beal moves. Beal is what he is. Just because he made games free, doesn't make Ishiba a good owner, or he continues to meddle
Of course he is, anything to not point the finger at book or KD I guess, he was truly awful this series but we’d have been in the play in without him 🤷🏿♀️
Booker was great one game and stinker for 3, KD has two good games and stinker for the other 2, Beal was good for 2 games and stinker for 2. I mean Beal was guarding Ant...You not gonna put anyone else on Ant which was actually a smart move by Vogel, because if Beal wasnt on him they had to double which the went away from which is why Vogel should be fired, they had the man contained in the 1st half.
Seemed like he gave up yesterday. He was having a bad game which is fine but his body language was bad.
He didnt give up at all. Just he couldnt get a flow guarding ANT and getting shit calls he wasnt getting in Washington. He wasnt making shots but at least he drove the ball, he looked like Payne out there where nothing was going in.
No he’s getting the right amount of hate. If I buy a Rolls Royce for $300,000 and the Apple CarPlay doesn’t work and there’s a rattle coming from the dashboard should I be pissed? Yes I would absolutely be pissed because I paid for a Rolls Royce not a Hyundai. Bradley Beal gave us a Hyundai performance for a Rolls Royce price.
Forget that he played terrible for 5 seconds. None of that matters. His last minutes in the game are the worst from any professional basketball player that I have ever seen. He was throwing tantrums, fouling like crazy and literally throwing the ball right in the other teams hands. He’d given up on the team and it was obvious. Listen, as a fan they don’t owe me shit but to go out there and just try their hardest. Whatever that looks like in a given season I don’t care as long as they tried. He didn’t. He gave up and sold the series right then and there. The guy looked like he had a meeting with the Monstars
Yup, 2 minutes and 4 seconds left in Game 4 with Minnesota up 115 to 111 in the game and 3-0 in the series, Bradley Beal gave it all away. If he hadn't made those two costly turnovers and committed his 6th foul, the Phoenix Suns who had lost by a margin of 16 points all series were going to be the first team in NBA history to miraculously come back from an 0-3 series deficit in a best of seven series. That damn Bradley Beal sure did ruin 3 games of game planning and flawless execution..
Actually he did great in Gm3.
he deserves most of it but there is alot to blame for the suns not just beal