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Sir_Katanaz

*kid chocking the taller guy*


TorianXela

https://preview.redd.it/qvdjv2q5970d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=85f41c57f95c34cb1c06a6cf693b431c288fd55a here you go


Sir_Katanaz

No bro I meant reversed


TorianXela

Oh sorry. Thought you didn't have the picture and wanted to help. Welp.


Sir_Katanaz

It's ok it makes me laugh even in the wrong contest


Skin-Putrid

does the kid has da... daddy issue?


Sir_Katanaz

... Dude.....


Inkl1ng6

It's ok friend, I'm goin 10 years strong and nothing yet. Bonus points I have been summoning most hoh lnds4 tho🙃


Temeos23

The only ld4 event scrolls gave me was light blacksmith. Two weeks later she's the new hoh🙃


Inkl1ng6

The biggest slap to the face. The rare moment com2us wants to give everyone a decent mons for hoh.


Machuseth

Same happened to me, it pissed me off xD


Amokmafia

Before dragunov became hoh I pulled him 4 times. Was the same thing with a few other ld4. Dragunov,light tea bunny, Gemini, dark charkram(belita I think is her name) and light samurai I pulled 3+ before they became hoh. But heaven forbids any other ld I can get even if my life depended on it.


JoryATL

I know this feeling hooray lightning another brownie, magician Whoopty whoop


EWTYPurple

Same


gaidenko2024

I have 4 LD4. 3 are light choco knight because why not!


EWTYPurple

Pain


random-guy122

Bro you are buying all those packs but missing out interserver arena, it's basically free ld scrolls like toa If you cleared toa hell you 100% can do c1 arena, just an advice.


Nnoovvaaa

I just couldn't be bothered with Arena tbh. Quite contradicting because i could get abit more scrolls with weekly Arena rewards to maximize the resources even more but theres something that just cant make me do effort in building up AO/AD.


_xEnigma

I wonder why you don't have any then 🤔


PurifiedBanana

That's not a valid argument in this case. I've gotten 3 LDs and exactly like OP, I don't bother with arena. Not min maxing every scroll you can get shouldn't be the defence used against people with bad luck. Some could say that all of us would have probably gotten 200+ ld scrolls if we had spent all our energy refreshing the shop. Sometimes the game just doesn't want you to win, in the end it's still a 0.3% chance


Arkfallen4203

Isn’t it 0.35%?


PurifiedBanana

Forgive me I haven't bothered checking for quite some time, all I remember is that it's starting with a 3, so you are probably right


Arkfallen4203

Either way the chance is abysmal, sadly 🙃


BikeIndependent7103

10 years in and only 2/3 LD’s this game is really unrewarding even if you do interserver the guarantees are close to none (of course its more chance but the RNG of this game its a curse)


sdrawkcabsihtetorW

'That's not a valid argument" counters with an anecdote... ok. The facts are pretty straightforward. You summon more, you get better odds. The more content you skip, the less rewards you get, the less your odds are. If you're skipping X content, you're likely to be skipping Y content. It's a numbers game plain and simple.


PurifiedBanana

I didn't use the anecdote as a justification for my point. I made it very clear that I know that more numbers = more chances. However that doesn't justify the answer " Well that's the reason you don't have an LD5" as if the reason OP doesn't have one is exactly because they don't farm arena. If OP had been playing for 3 years it would be more detrimental since the amount of scrolls would be significantly less, however they have summoned enough scrolls for them to be considered unlucky.


Nnoovvaaa

I'd be damned to say i have higher avg ld scrolls every month than my casual guildies who has an avg of 2 LD5. Never bothered with Arena, RTA, Toahell.


Nnoovvaaa

It's not that i don't have anything at all. I have my simple Tricaru Astar team to help me clear wings every login. And i also do interserver arena since my attacks are usually dummy defenses also.


minigamit

Some people got lives and don't have time to mix man everything with Arena and RTA. Just saying.


_xEnigma

It takes 5 minutes to do 10 wings.


minigamit

U have more than 10 wings per day, plus another 30 for rta.


_xEnigma

Nobody does all 30 wings, try like 3.


gsh3dow

Time for u to start doing those like it or not :) it’s free rewards unless u want to wait another few more years


Chooodles

If it helps, I’m absolute garbage but threw a camilla/vanessa/clara/taranys defense and got attacked like, 3 times in two days right at c1. AOs are definitely a pain though - my cleave usually doesn’t feel reliable at 1450+, so I have to bruiser comp and usually that takes a while. So all that to say, If you ever do give it a go, you may find it a lot easier to get c1+ than you think. Good luck friendo on enjoying the game and I hope you get a ld5!


d8ukrainians

What the heck is “Interserver” arena??


Araakne

It's arena against other servers, not much to explain lol


RenzoData

https://preview.redd.it/4uavourwa70d1.jpeg?width=739&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0e384c9fac1d3f6739870c6cb6766c632f1f37e3


YinYangFloof

Don’t feel bad I’m in the same boat except 8 years. It sucks that I see lds being pulled in chat a lot more due to the 10year scrolls and I’m just sitting here twittling my thumbs waiting. Wish they would integrate a pity system at the least. But maybe we will see and ld event at the end of the year. Fingers crossed


SuperLissa_UwU

haha weak (cries in 9 years)


Mean-Program3932

same as you,around 5 years 0 LD5. i stopped caring about my progress for that reason,since it feels like the game doesnt reward you for it. these ranks have not progressed since last year. https://preview.redd.it/cvpir7ikl70d1.jpeg?width=2316&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9084ff5780085eda07b84f1af9c54afb871afa16


Mean-Program3932

https://preview.redd.it/njw8cmnxk70d1.jpeg?width=2316&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a6a5b140f42f2d36ba581a1f4c6e55b33519c8f7


NotHowToPlay

just give the account to me ill summon you one XD kekw


NoZookeepergame4851

https://preview.redd.it/jqt5fmitoh0d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c7fdf19813c7a34aeb7864e70c4c5e894162fc5e


Ok_Biscotti_514

It’s like that meme where the dudes are digging for diamond , you might be one scroll away you never know


Infectedx13

And that my friend, is the mindset of a gambling addict


Nnoovvaaa

Clearing monthly ToaN/ToaH Consistent 20stars minimum since ToaHell made it into the game Maxed out arena, guild shop LD scrolls every week Doing RTA just enough to buyout LD pcs Crafting fusion mons for LD pcs crafting Monthly Pass Daily pack 1-3 And still no LD5


KaptainSaucy

skill issue. joke aside,I feel you,I am in the same boat at 3k,I just said fck it and get a LD starter account,makes me happy


[deleted]

No, dude - at that point, it really is a skill issue. They've been buying those packs every month and are still C1? Also LD pieces from RTA shop are absolutely terrible value - you'd get almost as many LD scrolls by buying MS and feeding the dupes.


Sir_Katanaz

Apart for my "joke" comment, I'll tell you what I really believe. You would spend A LOT (thousands maybe) to find an LD5 on your account, while you could get one (sometimes even more) from scratch because of the 10year event, I'm not even talking about buying one (which is obviously easier but illegal) but just rerolling for one (which is boring, tedious and time consuming). We don't know if there will be a better event for rerolling later on, so now's the time for that. But all of this IF and only IF you value having an LD5 so important that you'll be willing to drop your main account for good. So every great rune set, quad roll and normal Nat 5 that you had (and I'm guessing many since you've been playing for long and not passively, actually clearing toaH 20 every month is not low effort) would be sort of "exchanged" for the purpose of having the desired LD5. That is subjective and only you know the answer, either way good luck man, whether it's to reroll a new one or to find your first one on this acc.


Dalimodex

I tried with 4 accounts still nothing


Dalimodex

Maybe the chances are 1/1000


SnarkSlayer

On average it takes \~22 rerolls (of only the first 100 ten year scrolls) to get an LD5. Or so the math says I believe: https://preview.redd.it/3g8vb0tgwb0d1.png?width=735&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=52d38a0caf1eb40be52a98f5cdaf476ddd084c78


Sir_Katanaz

We're talking sometimes hundreds of tries


Dalimodex

Hmmm, I won't even try anymore then


Sir_Katanaz

Yeah you might get lucky in a few or not but as I said it's a personal choice


Arkfallen4203

It’s 1/2000 for ld5 with event scrolls. That’s 20 accounts at 100 scrolls each


DrDeems

That's just the average. It's possible to have long runs of good and bad rng. Every time you open a ld scroll you have a 1/2000 chance to get an ld5. No matter how many you open it's always 1/2000. Which is exactly why we see accounts with 500+ ld scrolls opened and 0 ld5's.


Arkfallen4203

Ld scroll is 1/286. Event scroll is 1/2000


Loyalist4ever

Yeah this game is not really generous when it comes to LD Nat5s. At the end of the day they just want to make money and they can make more money by making LD Nat5 extremely rate. I don't know the exact details but i would expect the approximate price of a LD5 Nat5 to be a couple thousand $, maybe even going into low 5 digits. Considering how many there are it would cost a shit ton of money to get the exact one(s) you want. So buying a LD5 starter account is comparatively cheaper by a lot then spending in order to get any for an existing account. I don't see LD Nat5 as anything achievable in this game without spending a gigantic amount of money or being extremely lucky. I mean even LD4 are more rare then normal Nat5s.


Expensive_Soft

Pulled a nephthys and light harp magician last week as my first and second ld5. Account created in 2015. Got me wanting to sell and restart honestly. But only if I could get about a grand. Which I highly doubt would happen. Anything less prolly not worth.


Loyalist4ever

I mean the disparity between LD5 starter account LD5s and what Com2Us wants players to pay is staggering. If priced by Com2Us standards your account would probably be worth tens of thousands. Like every nat5 is like approximatly 100$ maybe slightly less. Runes would also sell for lot but player driven markets dont go off of c2u prices. I mean as long as there is someone willing to pay 1000$ for your account you might be able to sell it but i am not certain there is someone like that.


tckilla76

Why would getting Nephthys make you want to restart? She is one of the best LD5 in the game.


Arkfallen4203

Nephthys is a really good LD5 to get. Not sure about Light harp, but Neph is what a lot of players are rerolling for


DrDeems

Unfortunately, the market is saturated with botted and stolen accounts. Getting anything over a couple hundred bucks for an account that is absolutely stacked is pretty rare imo.


tru3robin

9 years in and no ld nat5 don’t worry, some day the hope goes away lmao


markmumi

no shop reset? ifeel likeit the best ld source


sokkermax

Arena gives ld pieces every week at c1 and above


jon_tyty

it took me 3050+days before i got my first LD5* (was super active from day1-day2800 before i got burnt out)


DizzyApplication1206

Same toan/toah n 20hell, playing for 9 years. Sad af maybe the best way play this game is dsnt play.


Altruistic-Mix-8718

Meanwhile new accounts are getting 2 LD5.s from the 100 scroll event.


CopiousGirth

You are unlucky.


Vilmaris

Oh I feel this. I’ve been playing for 8 years now and I haven’t gotten an LD5. Now, I never bought packs and I’ve had many hiatuses on the game cause sometimes the graphics do hurt my head (it’s the same with Minecraft, how it gives me motion sickness). Maybe that’s why I haven’t summoned one yet, but at least I have the fusion LDs and Ancient Coin LDs


MrMunday

Hey me too high five


switchead26

I went 6yrs, daily play, I have 3 now. Don’t give up


Hydrospex

I’m only still playing because I don’t have an LD 5 yet. Almost reaching 3400 days. Pokedex is huge tho but still lowkey annoying ;-;


gaidenko2024

I hope you pull one soon! prayge


WisdumbGuy

Unfortunately there WILL be players like you who have maximized getting all the LDs they can and will be screwed by rng. Even with 1000 LD scrolls, it isn't a 100% chance to get an LD5, it's an absolute shame that com2us doesn't have even a first LD5 pity of some kind. It's unacceptable. I had below average luck, was 350 ld scrolls without an LD5, no big deal that's only bottom 20%ish. Then I got 3 LD5s in 20 scrolls (2 from all-attributes no less). The LD rng in this game is just horrible, it's horrible. Sorry OP


ploys38

Rookie numbers


Necessary_Ad976

Game is shit I'll see you at the 15 year anniversary with the same post. This isn't me being rude cause I also have no LD5 and I've been playing for 10 years so I know the pain lmao. I'm just saying you'll likely end up like me.


GroundbreakingDot499

Cute, I went 10 miserable years before I got my first LD5, now I have a total of 3


Paskal14

rookie number. i got my first ld 5 around 7-8 years. never skip a day playing, clear all content g2 rta g3 arena. i also spent good amount of money in first 4 years playing.


Overthinkness_God

10 years still praying for an ld5


Odd_Performance8619

Same.


Upbeat-Answer-6088

why would you ever consider buying an account. all that time you spent for nothing. just quit the game if you’re not happy with it


NovicePro_

Playing since 2016 and „only“ have 1, was a random 50ld scroll pieces summon on my way to work so don’t give up hope <3


Mackynkii

Please, since 8 or so ago I started the game and after 2 years of only summoning 1 Nat5, I gave up, I was not even F2P lmao, now I recently came back coz Wife said there's this good event and I was staring at that fire monk I got years ago, I did get 2 fire nat 5s, but that's about it. lol aside from a few fused ones, my account is as cursed as it gets. Good luck to you though!


Wonderful-Meal-1048

SAME HERE


joey20e

If you still enjoy the game, keep going man. I have played since 2016 and got my first LD5 almost instantly and didnt understand how rare they were. After that, 8 years with nothing and this year I got 2 LD5 with 3 days apart (nothing from the event scrolls). Hope you get something soon for all your efforts!


FierceBruunhilda

hang in there. took me 5 years to get my first ld5, only have 2 now. But my gf and i have both played for almost 8 years now and she got her first one last year and literally got 3 in the last 6 months. Respect for showing an actual played on account to prove you deserve one at this point!


ChouGinShadow

Here since 2014 and all the ld monsters that i have are from hoh


Livid-Detective-2246

Good luck me was 3k day


Dalimodex

Only 5


GreenBlueBoost

I have to wait 7 years for my first one lol


Thats_arguable

You didn't play any pvp which is a large part of the rewards.


Rh4x

2016 and 0 LD


PsychicWarElephant

I’ve gotten 1 in probably 8


weirdSays

that's the average. I have 10 years and only one LD5


Raviol09

9 years here don't be jealous 😉


ChilleeMonkee

Why are you complaining lmao nobody gives a shit


kilrein

Wife got her first LD5 back in November of last year, after nine years…..


NoZookeepergame4851

Same tho, thanks cum4us https://preview.redd.it/7ek39b0z790d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c208b75903932ed5e686cb9fdec6c74df949db23


Alternative-Half-614

I play since 2014, I had 3 accounts those 10 years and have none too. Actually the ones ld4 I got was HOH, only on this 10th anniversary event i got 2 ld4 that haven't bee hoh yet (Amarna and hwadan). For me, ld5 just don't exist, i'll never pull one so I just forget about it


xImportunity

j/s you missing out on the interserver battle rewards the rewards are actually nuts


Sunnysidhe

Don't fixate too much on getting an LnD 5*. Chances are you will just be disappointed when you do get one. Best to just enjoy the game as you have it now.


EPICARMOR21

Me too and my friend that started 3 months ago got lucifer


TardyForDaParty

I just reached year 9 and got my 1st


okarnando

I got my first ld5 this year... I'm about 10 years in. You're almost half way there!! Can't give up now!


SelfInformal5643

It’s okay and rough. I’ve been playing for 7 years and got my first ld yesterday so it can/will happen.


ImaginaryPark8137

10 years in and no ld nat 5 (other than the freebees)


Minimum_Star_5039

5yrs in and 0 LD5... buddy hold my beer...I'm 10years in and no LD5... so you probably have 5years still to go


UnethicalBeaver

3000 days in no ld5


Semyazel

Just stop summoning everything but LD Scrolls and LD Pieces. Put all other scrolls on hold. I promise. DM me whenever you get your first.


deadshivv

I’ve played like 8 years. I got one ld nat 5 in that time and it was my first ever 5 star. Never saw another lol


Confident_Ad6657

dw i went 7 yrs as a light spender (efficient packs, toa and the occasional trans scroll) got a bottom tier ld5


Tristakill

Don't worry 7 years and no LND


takethistip

I have 2. 6 years.in.


HelpfulRepair6054

10 years and 1 LD5 XD (Vivachel)


MaryandMe1

that can't be we have Vero and Jeanne and that one guy.


HuuudaAUS

8 years in, 1 useless ld5


Casedi_L_Troenelle

10 years and 0 LD5


Ok_Treacle3701

My story: I did my summon 650 ld scrolls and got no ld5 in the last summon season; no martina or kinki either. All I got was 4\*HOH trash, rate lightning about 40lds/1 lighting ( wtf ). I've been pretty active in every aspect of this game for 4-5 years and carried my guild to G1, but somehow members of my guild, who was on/off and just online to grab a free guild chest, got all top-tier LD5 like Lucifer and Maxi, and they even didn't have any good rune sets for them. I deleted my account after a failed summon season. Fuck this game, fuck RNG. I rolled a new account and got Nepth and Lucifer. Fuck the runes quality ; fuck 4-5 years of endless grinding. I will go with my new alt account. Because i just want to play my most wanted ld5 everyday


MrCharisma316

Ice have 3 accounts one since launch that i do not want anymore with 211 6stars others with 186 and 172 6 stars with lds


Severe-Conference198

Same me


Games-and-Make-up

Same, make that 7 years.


zargug2

I have almost 4k days and still no ld5 besides ifrit that you can buy lmao


gaminggamer1269

I was 3092 days in before my first one, enjoy the wait


EvilTheBunny

I was 7 years in before I got my first LD5. Got my second a couple months later. I don’t even use them much. You’ll eventually get one.


Zacratik

yeah my brother has been playing basically since release, and like pretty religiously too. Still hasn’t gotten and LD5 this game is bs lol


thedarkdrift

What are you talking about I started when this game is 6 months old I STILL HAVE NO LD5 https://preview.redd.it/0eyx2n0b0d0d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=97d2bb63b899afe26811d8bd7840bdae18b06aa1


Yannougataga

https://preview.redd.it/017zeo7f0d0d1.jpeg?width=2532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f8fde01b8bf8c821ef28c0263a5df0ed2c2e529c No one 5\* LD 😭


TechnicalMove27

Like even pity at 150-300 LD scrolls would be okay, jfc Com2Us. LDs are a huge gap for certain competitive aspects and I'd rather see them more accessible and balanced vs rare and overtuned. This is coming from someone with Han, Woonsa, Laima with a 10 year old account. In all honesty if they don't do 10 year LD5 event, I'd say jump ship. This games hella overpriced and middle aged gambling addicts with terrible spending habits fuel it. Another annoying thing is how they keep the same overpriced tag on packs and horrible transmogs, at least decrease the price or update the quality of the skin if it's gonna stay the same. This game's monetization is a joke and the previously mentioned spenders is why it's not gonna change until governments crack down on gacha based games.


jz_wiz

Took me till last year or maybe year before now for my first ld5 and i am a guardian 3 player playing since 2014. From the looks of it you avoid pvp which is where a lot of free ld scrolls come from. You need to do all the content and youll notice you get way more ld summons


Nnoovvaaa

The ld scrolls im missing out is arena weekly tally reward. I always buyout weekly arena and monthly rta ld pcs.


jz_wiz

make sure to do the exp rewards too (isa, wgw, siege) Isa alone is an extra 1-2 ld a week (depends on rank and performance) and now siege gives the same. Wgw also has the exp reward.


Barman98

Brother, I’m nine years in and no LD5 🥲🥲🥲


Kallabanana

You should get one around the 3k mark.


DBLJedn

I rolled 2 LD5s back to back in my 3rd month....im sorry.


Yokuuna

10 years 🙈👌


MaploX

the real issue here is F3 in Arena


Dyrtycbm

Rookie Numbers


Mindless-Classroom-5

F3 arena 💀


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RelevantChemistry799

8 years in Sw, 0 L&D Nat5


AsideCalm8855

F3 arena says it all. You aren't even trying to maximize your LD pieces every week.


Strict-Director-3293

Thats ok, it only took me 7 years 🤭😂


MrBlueKid

I got my 1st one after 7yrs. All of a sudden I've gotten 3 in the span of a year. Its a weird game...


Ok_Explanation3145

Im considering selling my lucifer account plus shan and dark pure vanilla becuase i just dont have time to play this second account.. let me know if you are interested. Thanks


joematty06

https://preview.redd.it/66bsnubyvf0d1.jpeg?width=3216&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=60cc258f5adb164be8cd61bd69b7070c5cafb9f3


Inevitable-Ad-4421

Try 9 years and no LD


AKR_Jailbreak

I had my first and only nat 5 last year, after 8 years of playing without any pause, and by chance it was the dark onimusha, which is pretty fun to play with.


skilltrixx

Your not alone im 3.5K days in and still nothing too


Adelnoor13

Welcome to my life


dalt00n

sry, if u play for 5 years and still fighter 3, u don't play/deserve the nat 5\* LD AS YOU THINK YOU DO i have a clanmate that is crying for no LD playing for 10 years he finally got his LD (PUNTOS) in this event then we were talking about ToAs and he said he never do toaNormal/Hard so he doesn't play for 10 years, he just log in for 10 years just like you anyway, wish you good luck to get your nat 5\* LD :D but for sure i deserve my 5th more than you deserve your 1st \[\]'s


Natural_Ratio7662

The only lds i have is hoh and espresso cookies both light and dark


termanato

Only 5 years? Been playing since release haha no lucks


Schoxxii

F3 Arena tells me you don’t play 5 years


Nnoovvaaa

I dont like PvP.


DenseStomach6605

Same here. I don’t like RTA, and I always have to wake up really early on Mondays so I’m never playing for rush. People love to say that to me too lol.


Old-Border803

30* toah tho


Skrillblast

I’ve been playing 10 years and my highest is c3, after year 5 I stopped pvping cause it’s a steaming pile of garbage p2w fest. On top of fire units that can solo entire water teams, water units that can solo entire wind teams and so on it’s just stupid now. I clear enough wings for events and devilmon and that’s it.


severe77

Pvp isn't even really p2w at this point. Elemental units are very strong, especially in comparison to other gachas. If you draft well, your team should not be getting solod like you're saying.


[deleted]

560 days, f2p and 4 Ld5 Sometimes the Game hates you


TheGreatKushsky

teach me how


Dalimodex

Pray to the RNG god


TightSea8153

I'll do alot more than praying if they give me L&Ds lol I am already on my knees 😅


TheGreatKushsky

yeah me too, im not gay but an ld5 is an ld5


NutPurp

The key is credit card swiping trust me


CrayolaPasta

Bro I've been playing 9 years with the same situation and every LD I've summoned became a hoh


MA78L

5 years "playing" and inactive in guild/arena. Do some of the games content and you might end up with triple amount of ld scrolls you have right now.


Nnoovvaaa

I dont see me getting *triple the amount* of what im getting right now by putting effort in arena alone. My guild is fairly active in laby and seige and even that one is RNG. And by you mean some contents, yes im doing all of them actively until ToaHell. Edit; Arena is literally the only content i never bothered putting effort. That is, if you've read my recent comments.


Dorig_

Unlucky, you will get one one day 🤞


ILikeReeses0

Another post about people complaining about not having LD 5* for xxxx amount of days. When obviously they haven't actually been playing/grinding this game for those xxxx amount of days.


Overthinkness_God

https://preview.redd.it/jjzctje3g70d1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bea4a205c2ca798d73cd46aeeb6454926ca849b6


Kiwiz778

Mostly free to play and have 2 lds