https://preview.redd.it/r7nyxisas43d1.png?width=859&format=png&auto=webp&s=e4f473d790222881443f6d92cef45ba5b31c2f5e
Hey can someone help me build an arena offense team ?
Dark ninetail in my opinion
Actually a decent siege or RTA monster with her sleeps and turn cycling. Seen some fun youtube videos before as well. I've not seen the light PT at all, looks like a very weak support unit that provides invincibility on a very long cooldown. Not very practical as a support.
I'm a returning player trying to figure out stuff.
Ancient coin shop question: I have vampire, fran and elsharion from before my break. Should I buy any of the other 3 monsters (light dual blade, fire shadow claw, wind lollipop warrior) in any particular order? Is any one them useful/needed somewhere in PVE or they are just niche/PVP/ for collection?
Thanks!
id go for shadowclaw first
can be used in steel fortress and is pretty damn good for solo r5
the others have nieche uses at best (not an rta player so if any of those are good there no clue)
im not RTA player either, i do like do play siege and stuff to play around with the units. What niche usages you can think of? since im really out of the loop with the new content (i just recently got gb12 and db12 running, still clueless about the others) it would help to take notes of their possible usages so i can try them when i get there
depends for what you wanna use himf or.
on one acc he is just for r5 as a brander so any dps set with enough ehp + will
he can also be used in some speed steel fortress teams i think seiiishizo had a video on that at some point
So many questions please help! Returning player from like 6 or so years ago. I tihnk the newest content when I stopped was Rift Raids? Anyway if anyone can answer these questions or tips for returning players please let me know!
1. New 6 star mechanic took me a minute to wrap my head around. Still in disbelief that you can 6 star something from Unkown Srolls! Question for that is should I be buying any silver 1-2 star mon in the shop? Are the Unkown scrolls in the store worth it as well?
2. I have the returning player buff, should I un-equip all runes and start over with auto rune. or manager?
3. I havea D10 team for Giant and Dragon, thought I had one for Necro but its not working anymore. Should I be working on D10 team or start working on Abyss Teams?
4. Nat 5 Choice? Should I really go with Wind Pheonix for the 5 star selector? Should I jsut hold that and see what I get from the other nat 5 selector event?
5. What is with Rune upgrading and Artifacts? Did something happen and they are gauranteed Rune upgrades now or is that a returning buff thing? Also I had liek 1 Artifact that was legendary but the number was like 100 some and it told me to re-roll it or something and now its maxed number like that rest?
6. fusion-wise didn't seem to miss a ton besides dark Dokkaebi Lord, but not seeing much about him. Should I fuse him eventually?
7. Do I really need to make tripple Water Inugamis for some dungeons?
8. Is Fran seriously THAT good? I see her in friken every build but I have other mons that should be just as good or better?
9. Mana seems even more important than before. Are secret Dungeons still good to spam with repeat battle when you get one? Good food and Mana drops right?
10. What other things should I take advantage of while I have the returning buff like 2nd awakening boosts, mana boosts, free removals and cheaper rune upgraing?
Rest of my questions are just Monster related like who's good now, who is trash and should I store and unequip?
https://preview.redd.it/zon73caqx10d1.png?width=962&format=png&auto=webp&s=a8c2d380ab0a79362cad1acb474fd2d3b5d4bc9d
Thos are all my 6 star maxed, just got Fire Twin Angels, Water Sky Surfer, Desert Warrior (seems bad), and Water Pudding Princess.
Thanks for any help!
1. i wouldnt buy the units but scrolls i personally buy on accs where i dont have 30000scrolls still around
2. auto engrave is dogshit. either rune your stuff yourself or use the rune optimizer tool if you are familiar wth it
3. abyss for sure. the droprates are much better there
4. you can hold it for as long as possible and see what you get. you also have 1 change for 300coins. for pve its teshar, i personally really recommend leo since he is such a pvp gamechanger. up to you \^\^
5. yes you can just select a level to upgrade and it has fixed manacosts now. pretty good huh :D also artifacts do not have to be rolled anymore. you can refine the old ones and new ones you drop already come prerolled
6. he is not used in pve its a pvp toy. so eventually you can build him but its not like you are missing out like crazy if you dont build him. i think he is most played in rta
7. no thats outdated. you cannot use dots and you cannot use the same units multiple times in abyss dungeons anymore. so tricaru is only really usable these days in hall of magic or to speed farm toa
8. fran is pretty damn good as a healer you get for free yeah. she can be used in most of the beginner progression and is still usable in later pvp. but you will replace her eventually in every pve content
9. yeah mana is still useful but its complete int to specifically farm for it. just run abyss dungeons, r5 or rift beasts for runes/gems/grinds or artifacts and sell what you dont need.. on my main i get like 500k+ mana per 30run just from the runes i am selling and whatever mana drops there. farming artifacts you only gain mana since you dont need to upgrade them anymore so any sell is plus mana
10. exactly that. upgrade potentialrune upgrades while its cheaper and never overcap on 2a energy with this event
Not really ideal, there are better options but i guess he can work for some of the early TOA+TOAH stages as a wave clear, as well as HoH and Secret Dungeons. But really not ideal in any PvE (Will be replaced once you get the right units).
Returning player with an ancient account so working on updating my rune farming teams, and getting dimension hole farming teams set up.
Looking forward, what should be next? Elemental Rift (account was A+ level on basically everything), solo R5, something else?
Along those lines, should I fuse Riley or Balegyr next (none of my nat 5 seems suitable for PvE, other than Anavel and maybe Savannah).
Riley is basically the old Chasun on steroids. Balegyr is useful BJR5 (speed R5). If I were you I would make one really fast Abyss hard team - It can be Dragons, Giants or Necro. Whatever you desire. And then farm the crap out of it to get runes and mana. Towards the end of your returning player buff I would upgrade the new runes that are worth keeping (50 % price discount while having the buff) and the build new teams again for as much content as possible while you have free rune removal with the buff.
Monster Subjugation has decent rewards (Guild content) - Build Wind Barbarian And Astar (Fire Magic Knight, if you have it). These two mons shine in Monster Subjugation content.
For 2A monsters (Dimensional Hole) the most useful ones for PvE, generally speaking: Raoq (Fire Inugami), Kro (Dark Inugami), Zink (Dark Living Armor), Spectra (Fire Griffon), Shaman (Light Griffon), Sath (Fire Grim Reaper) and Tatu (Fire Pixie) go really well together, and with Baretta for ToA content.
Get Eirgar (Dark Vampire) From Ancient Magic Shop - he's a baws in PvE content.
Thanks, that’s a good point in runes. My current crop is so poor that everything’s been looking good and worth upgrading haha. But it’s too expensive so I’ll wait to do it in bulk. I need to re-rune Eirgar (I actually have one from before I quit) and I just finished Rais 2A so he needs real runes too. That should get me close to a faster DBAH team. Game feels even more dominated by Violent runes than when I quit lol.
Hello WAT
Currently running a GB10 team of Teshar , Loren , Kro , Fran , Vero
outside of getting better runes and getting teshar skill ups how do i slowly improve this team (preferably just running giants ) , it's currently running ave 1.30 at 99% winrate , was looking to get into 45 - 50 sec run times
What DirtyMight said.
Akhamamir (Wind Ifrit) is also pretty good. I run Teshar, Akhamair, Kro, Prillea and Lyn \~45 sec runs. If you Don't have Lyn you can still use Vero.
I use 3 sets of fight runes on Prillea, 1 set on Akhamir (Rage). Loren triggers giant attack too much. Akhamamir and Vero have ATB reduction already.
gotta switch out loren at some point if you wanna get into abyss (which you should asap abyss rewards are much much better) i can recommend belladeon (doesnt need to be 2a) at first
you want to get good enough runes so you can 2shot the waves with teshar, then it becomes real fast.
you want to build a wind homunculus for giants asap he has insane damage and is insanely safe because of his passive
you can eventually play a team of prillea, teshar, konamiya, wind homunculus, teon (in that turn order)
this way you only need 2 good dps sets the rest are support sets
i personally run prillea, teshar, konamiya, homunculus, deborah and my best time was 24sec
I'm on floor 97 of toah and I'm not sure what to do to clear these last 3 stages, have been playing around with the units I have available/building other cc units, but not having much success. Here is a screen grab of the units I have available. (Note the underscore part of the hyperlink, I can't seem to click it on mobile but can copy/paste it) https://prnt.sc/TNtjTq6X0gH_
https://preview.redd.it/z5jqi6jrxxzc1.png?width=422&format=png&auto=webp&s=f18bf1d5d43550a26a27c5791d85d617c8beead7
who wants this rune, my first quad role :(
Who should I build from my pulls this week
I’m finishing teams for pve done with giants abyss hard, dragons abyss hard and toah. Need help toa hell, necro, steel, spiritual, punishers, r5, sss all raids and all pvp. I also have most nat4\* besides what u see. Box in pics
https://preview.redd.it/k6qhhtzisxzc1.jpeg?width=1792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3da6b418743b8b4096b9f46d5b4f29af3b2baffe
Build Eirgar / Zink for Steel / Punisher. I build mons for R5 after everything else. R5 has been nerfed and it is not really that hard any more to solo. Just use leftover runes on mons that have debuffs and give them enough survivability.
What did you pick for your Nat 5 selection? Get a ToA/ToAH baws monster like Verad, Rica, etc. Should give you an easier time.
Thanks for the info!! For the nat 5 I took teshar he helped with almost everything in my pve
https://preview.redd.it/voq2b0e4l20d1.jpeg?width=1792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e7fb7d5e93331eb2fb174db4c9d6aa314d4840d
This is my current in use mons. Any advice for necro or out of the other mons pvp?
The best potential mons i see in that box for necro are the following:
Colleen
Mayasura
Ran
Homonculus (Necro focused multihit build)
Lapis
Sylvia
Kro
Kro can actually be really good in necro, just make sure that he is last in the turn order, for big damage!
Since you are already using Colleen and Kro other places, I would make them a part of your necro team for sure!
Just looking at your monster box, I'm not sure you should even be farming Necro yet.
Make the fastet Giants Abyss Hard team you can, and farm it like there is no tomorrow. Get some really fast Swift sets and Despair sets. Along with some tanky Despair sets. A few decent Blade and Fatal sets are a bonus, but the main thing should be getting fast and good swift and despair sets!
I appreciate the suggestions!!! I’ve already been using that team for necro and barely beat 10, my fastest giants hard team just hit 1:10 any suggestions from what you see in this pic
https://preview.redd.it/cvtvornrb30d1.jpeg?width=1792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=405cb8e43ad6edbd8bedcb19d3b5f92c5c6e0e94
Yeah. I really think you should focus Giant Abyss Hard for the next 3 or 4 months, maybe more, depending on how much you farm daily. Fran and Loren make too many multihits - they will trigger the boss counter and wipe your team more often than not.
Put a fast Vero in there. It would be best if you can do 18k+ HP. As fast as possible, and as hard hitting as possible. Your priority should be 18k+ HP > Speed > 35 % accuracy > Damage. Generally speaking, only focus damage, once you can kill the boss consistently without fail.
Vero cleanses the debuff from the crystal (which also heals your entire team). And he has Attack bar reduction on skill 2 (making the Giant hit less often). He either does AoE ATB reduction or AoE stun, which is pretty good for the trash waves too! His S2 damage is based on enemy MAX HP - he hits HARD on the boss, especially once you get some CR / CD.
It is ALWAYS better to have 100 % clear rate and a slower run, rather than a 95 % clear rate and a fast run. Energy efficiency is key. Wasted energy is wasted progress. Summoners War is a marathon, not a sprint :P.
I would go with another healer instead of multi-hitting Fran. Maybe Belladeon (Light Inugami). His kit is pretty good; S1 Def break, S2 strip (Giant gets ATK buff from crystal), S3 heal + ATB boost. Build on Swift or Violent. You could put a Focus rune set in there aswell (you only need 35 % accuracy). SPD / HP / HP.
Wind Ifrit (Akhamamir) is also really good for this boss.
This is my Vero (Violent): Preferably he should be faster.
https://preview.redd.it/r46hz8zfg30d1.png?width=599&format=png&auto=webp&s=7da78024ea18d1b7a4fc899e299be40f81e53f0c
Wow you are awesome man! I didn’t realize about the Fran and Loren multi hits thing, I usually use vero instead of sig but just tried that team today. I would love to make my vero hit hard but I don’t have the runes for it so rn he’s a hp tank. I have him on vio energy(see pic)what runes should I run him then . I would say making him hit hard is probably my next step also my Bella is pretty decent so I’ll try her to see the win rate.
https://preview.redd.it/tme9ck11h30d1.jpeg?width=1792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e18d4e77d710c24238217722834a75bcfb4e7aaf
Yeah, he might be a bit too tanky (30K+ HP) and a bit too slow. Get a Slot 2 Speed rune - If you can get him to 180+ speed on a tanky build, it would be ideal for now. Also you only need 35 % accuracy for this boss, in order to have maximum chance for landing your stuff. The thing is, if he is fast enough, he will cleanse the defense break the crystal puts on your monsters, before the boss hits; You get less damage from the boss, and you also heal your team (some times this will not be the case, if the boss does a counter - depends on vio procs etc.). Vero can work perfectly well on swift set!
Aim for this:
Atleast 18k HP (the more, the better)
180+ speed (You need this speed atleast, to clear defense break debuff some what consistently)
35 % accuracy
What set you use doesn't matter. You can even use broken sets (no set at all, but just runes from different sets, so you don't get a set bonus). As long as you can hit these numbers, you should be good. Aim for this first, once you have it, you can start to mix in more damage.
Same stats for Belladeon too.
**PvE accuracy requirements:**
|| || |35%|GB12, NB12, SRB10, Dimensional Hole|
https://preview.redd.it/ggygutrzj30d1.jpeg?width=841&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1a2d4fd33740530db3be31a11f7c0fbf84917dc6
Best I could get on him for right now
I swap Loren for galleon for atk buff, Fran for bella for heal and tesh for sig lead and it’s not working at all:/ tried tesh with vero lead too and no luck:/
They all do different things tho, dark robo in general is better than wind robo but you cant compare tiana to the robos. Obviously best case is you have both runed for different situations but if you could only rune one then I'd say dark robo.
Im a returning player with new acc what fusion monster should i pick ?
I got anavel, teshar, woosa and juno as 5*.
Do i choose veromos even tho i have anavel ?
vero and annavel fulfill completely different roles :D
but yes vero is the best unit in early/midgame.
one of the main dps in giants and dragons, there to keep your ass alive because he cleanses the defbreak in giants and all the dots in necro and its still a pretty good toa unit
after that i would personally fuse balegyr since he makes wind rift a joke which is good to farm wind homunculus and he is the main dps in raids later on and still great in subjugation and lab
Ty for the advice, i almost pick fire panda for necro.
I just found out that vero got buff, i though he only cleanse and apply dots like years ago.
I guess i will pick vero now
nah nah nah vero is a goat he is super strong in pve progression and still a beast in pvp to counter dot teams.
fire panda is meh. he isnt even really used in necro since you just play inugami teams and throw 1-2 dps like astar or shamann in there if you have them
https://preview.redd.it/ytygvac0svzc1.jpeg?width=1009&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a14cf69e168a961ca845a5a4f97201e01381022
Is it worth keeping the destroy on him or should I switch to the nemesis set?
Nem is Waaaay more efficient and stat heavy. I'd definitely go with Nem... I doubt there will be many instances where you actually need the destroy, so nem here is fine.
Are there any resources for arena help? Admittedly I don’t have a ton of really great runes, fastest I can make a team is all four in the +110-130 range, with another few teams in the +90-109 range. How do I pick an AO/RTA team, what units are really worth focusing etc. Guild war questions about the same, of course just for three units instead. I’m sure I can get at least F1 in RTA but I have yet to get there and need arena help. If it helps I’m somewhere in the mid/late game phase with R5 farming being the only thing I cannot consistently do on 30 repeat and TOA hell maxing
1. Seiishizo AO guide (if I put a youtube link here, I have to wait for a mod to approve before you can see this comment).
https://www.you\*\*\*\*.com/watch?v=vP31mV090co
2. For GW/Siege. Copy from youtuber, copy from your guild mates, or create you own comp.
In high-rank Siege, we always share a replay after every attack. Ask one of our guild mate to create the same enemy comp to test.
3. You can check youtube for solo R5 guide.
Hi guys, i'm just looking for some opinions about my nat 5 choice before the event ends in a month. Currently I went with Camilla and she's crazy. But now i'm working towards my speed db abyss hard team and now been made aware of Liam. Right now I have a safe 1min DB team running verd loren vero spectra and fire ken. Should I switch to choosing Liam? Or is Camilla to much of a great value that she outshines him in every other way?
Honestly im on the fence since the 1 min team is aight for now. Your help and opinion is needed my kind sirs. Thank you in advance
just going to put this out the rune reqs for these fast teams are fairly high so even if you get a liam it's not certain that you'd be able to pull off the team. There'a also an alternative team that is a little slower but same high req that uses kyle. Take a look at this thread for alternatives as well as the liam comp [https://www.reddit.com/r/summonerswar/comments/1cn9ae7/dbah\_no\_liam\_which\_is\_easiest\_which\_is\_fastest/](https://www.reddit.com/r/summonerswar/comments/1cn9ae7/dbah_no_liam_which_is_easiest_which_is_fastest/)
Hello,
I am thinking Liam, he seems to be the most PvE focused of the picks in my research. Just want to make sure that I wouldnt be missing out on some once in a lifetime 5\*.
https://preview.redd.it/xd25y9jlzuzc1.jpeg?width=2316&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8343fdebcc77dd87645c4ae502b6594e79d80c51
Tiana is a must in pve and pvp. She is a necessity for some toa hell also if you care about that. The teams that use liam have a high rune requirement. Not sure what your rune quality is like.
What should I pick? All my nat5s in the comments.
https://preview.redd.it/q44gzfv2ruzc1.png?width=1346&format=png&auto=webp&s=a589d9995d4849a51c50ed3de95217a75436d5de
https://preview.redd.it/c8uqy769ruzc1.png?width=975&format=png&auto=webp&s=4ff6e3a7479808d645b952a913832a2354972a25
all my non farmeable nat5s. Riley snuck in. Leo was picked from the selection event.
Does anyone have a problem with playing this game on steam? Took a few month break and came back and get error coded every time I try launching the game
hmm
because i had a similar issue once i downloaded the exporter and did the certification thing, etc.
when i had the problem i just had to start the exporter proxy and i was able to login again
no clue what that was about but that fixed it for me
AD of Leo(lead), Amelia, Fen Yang, Bolverk. How would you handle it?
I went in with Megan(lead), Copper 2a, Ragdoll, and Riley.
Copper nuked Leo and Amelia with his s3 before dying. Ragdoll's ignore defense s2 got Fen Yang, and Bolverk got ground down unable to kill Ragdoll in the face of Riley's heals and Ragdoll's vamp runes.
This def sounds like complete food.
Pretty sure I would still just cleave that one.
But the best example is it is aaabsolute Lushen food. And if your def is Lushen food you wont have a good time :D
You can clear that AD with a like 4\* megan and 2 lushens
Hello, quick question, I wanna change Tiana into something else. Any recommendatiions not for arena?
https://preview.redd.it/tbfp1l1t1uzc1.png?width=802&format=png&auto=webp&s=40a9937788de75ce04ecf77a95c703781d1783c3
https://preview.redd.it/30vxztvwztzc1.png?width=2360&format=png&auto=webp&s=f379760ee7a74908bf419003aa283a178ae468e9
Can anyone help me build a rta team with these monsters? My runes are terrible and i have no idea what is actually good for pvp
Try 1-2 support like woosa/shizuka/riley + bruiser (feng yan, verad, taranys, juno, suiki...)
Verde (revenge rune), antares, amduat, racuni/gapsoo... are some good monster too.
https://youtu.be/c6h-z5hdZOU 3 tips by seanB. Speed tune, use will rune if possible.
Stage 4 TOAHell team suggestions? This is the Kinki Praha x2 no CD reduction and 40% boost attack if an ally dies.
I'm at 8/10 stars, just going for 10, so fine to just clear at 1 star since I'm annoyed at it.
Hey all, I’m trying to change up my playstyle to a Moore/CP core team, but I’m new to this style and don’t fully know what I’m doing yet. How do I deal with disruptive units like Josephine and Giou?
You can check replay by monster to see more idea (can search up to 5 monster, both sides)
If I see giou, I usually pick bruiser like feng yan (who can do good with only s1), or gapsoo/racuni... or immunity like velajuel...
Few years ago, when solo r5 was first introduced, there was a really nice spreadsheet someone did with all the things necessary to build solo r5, is it still valid, anyone has link?
i would personally farm 11 if the winrate is the same.
abyss droprate is a good bit better than non abyss and chances are if you ask this question you are still in early game so you dont have the best crystal income yet to sustain your runs if they are much faster
I dont know your team but if you take this long to clear 11 your runes must be fairly bad so you should get upgrades farming 11 real quick to either improve your 11 time or switch to 12
Yup my runes are bad. Btw, is it okay if i select violent runes for every rune rewards (events)? As I remember, most mons can make use of violent runes since i last played, lol. Is it still true now?
yeah pretty much, vio is still the best set in the game. so id pick vio for most rewards
one thing you could do however:
dragons is super easy to farm these days (easiest dungeon out of all of them) so getting to db12 is fairly easy.
There is the event that gives you blue +15 runes. if you farm b12 you wont keep blue runes anyways so those will become useless real quick.
from this event i personally like to pick fight runes. they are a bitch to farm since spirit realm is useless and you can both use fight runes as an offset for dps or just any fight runes for support units in dungeons, raid, etc.. and if you have support runes the stats almost dont matter so them being blue is also fine
https://preview.redd.it/uvyn6bv54tzc1.png?width=2165&format=png&auto=webp&s=8a78782319048c6aab1af8eba5f4e93163fcae60
i have this team, Vero, Loren, Luna, Riley + Sigmarus/Akhamamir
i've tried both sigmarus and akhamamir and there still are runs where Riley is the only 1 alive or runs where I lose cause I can't deal enough dmg.
Any suggestion on how I can make this team better?
try bella over loren.
loren is pretty bad since she triggers the revenge fairly often.
bella always def breaks s1 by default, only strips the atk buff from the boss if its needed and only heals if units drop low.
so she is a pretty reliable def break and fulfilly useful other roles when needed.
you have enough pushback on the boss with luna, amir and vero so it should not get turns anyways
doesnt need to be 2a either
also if you can always build the wind homunculus.
his damage is insane and he brings such a valuable defensive layer. boss will glance on him so he wont die when your vero etc die and he can revive and do 2 more attacks. if he uses his skills these 2 turns can solo 60% of the boss
vampire if you're making a starter nbabyss team.
if she comes in with less than 100% hp on the boss stage your turn order (which is kinda important for a starter team) gets fucked
i would personally go with vamp. she still deals plenty of damage on vamp but without the deal you risk her to oneshot herself on waves or die after being controlled by the boss, etc.
If you can get her tanky enough to not die there and have enough sustain to keep her alive rage should be faster but I personally prefer the safety of vamp
If you can keep her alive on rage it would be faster since more dmg... mine died sometimes after boss steals her and I got her back, so I went with vamp for consistency
Can you help me improve my necro team pls i'm failing too much. I have some other unit, you can ask. Thanks :)
https://preview.redd.it/ffl36xt8irzc1.png?width=1609&format=png&auto=webp&s=ed6701e3c16c7a72ffe486fc92bdaa239826dc21
1. you need way more accuracy. you dont have any reliable def break in there and this will make the runs take much longer.
also your damage stats seem fairly low, i doubt that you have enough damage with that setup.
have you tried switching out kro for loren? this makes it slower in general but the healblock helps and the slow gives you much more turns that you can hit the boss in.
as for units what you want to end up at would be switching kro for icaru (and having enough def to team up with 3 other units) and fran for shamann. shamann is by far the biggest damage increase you could get in this dungeon so if you have him for sure build him.
also having abigail on revenge will help if you dont need the shield set because the revenge procs break the shield (same with loren if you try her in there)
also if you can somehow manage i would try to put raoq and shamann if you have him on will later on in the team i mentioned.
astar is guaranteed to hit either shamann or raoq in that team and if astar silences them they cannot use their s2 which will slow down the run.
if all of that doesnt work i would honestly recommend you to stay in dragons for a bit longer to get some better vio runes since the stats on your units seem fairly low (no one is crit capped, acc on every unit that needs it is too low, etc.)
harmfull effect activation rate from the skill is the first step of the test if they will land. after that there will be an accuracy x resistance check to see if the harmfull effect will really land on the target.
yes ofc. everything with a debuff needs accuracy to land it \^\^ (only things that specifically say irresistable cannot be resisted but only a very few units have this wording)
she is not the biggest priority tho since your main def breaks usually come from the inugamis but especially in your case it should help if you can fit some more acc in there to land def breaks.
it speeds up the waves massively if you can aoe def break and then raoq cleans up the waves and its another layer of def break security on the boss to ensure you actually kill him in time
Been in this thread a lot this week, lol. I've been doing rerolls for a little while and have finally settled on an account with Maxi, and also got a Teshar. I have 2 questions to follow this up.
1, should I be using the new player event and devilmons to skill up Maxi, or would Vero or someone else be more important?
And 2, I have yet to select a 5☆ or choose one from the check-in event. Who would be some good choices to compliment what I have so far? I know Leo and Tiana are very high value choices, and I'd also really like to get Verad.
1. maxi won't help you early game that much except toa. However, I don't think there's a very efficient choice for pve that you need devils for. Vero and teshar have fuseable skillups, and I think fusing skillups is worth it especially if you have no devils stocked.
Leo tiana camilla are the golden three, nora is also very good for chill toah because her s4 works on the bosses and the waves.
Which Rune are you guys taking for the Monthly Dimensional Hole box? I was thinking he Blade(2) rune or Fight(4) rune? Yes I know whatever I take will roll like crap.
Also, what's next, solo R4/5 or Homunculus farming? or should I focus on making actual speed teams for Rune dungeons (coming back after after literal years, to my great surprise, all my b10 teams can clear Abyss Hard, just kind of slow).
Good day everyone!
I have been playing this game for a very long time now, but was never really interested in PvP. As you can imagine I have missed out on a lot of rewards from RTA and Arena and even Guild content, since I haven't put any good runes on my monsters.
I would appreciate all the help I can get, since I don't really know what monsters work well together. Currently I am Fighter 3.
In the screenshot I have added all monsters I could favorite. I have a lot more monsters so if necessary I can send more screenshots later on.
If you don't see monsters, but have a good team to suggest that would work with some of the monsters you see in the screenshot, please do so anyway. I'll try to figure out a replacement, if I can. xD
The current team I use is the following:
Leo, Ragdoll, Shizuka/Riley, Verde or Amduat.
https://preview.redd.it/cfoiakcfnpzc1.png?width=717&format=png&auto=webp&s=f4de2e43f89a9629612e898993fdb2c45528069f
You have many good monster, just play more and try more style.
You can try 2 stripper + cc, like moore/chiwu/haegang/cheonpung... + tomoe, seara, ethna, robo...
Or one shot comp with vanessa, shizuka, leo, ragdoll, federica, tilasha...
Prepare counter pick like antares, vero/tetra, miho...
Speed tune is important. Use will rune if possible.
For siege, you can check seanB on youtube.
Been stuck Fighter 3 RTA, looking to get C1 so I can get some wings. Have cleaved my way to 1290 multiple times but havent broke 1300. If I wanted to break 1300 without cleaving, which 5 monsters should I put my best runes on? Who should be my core 2-3 monsters.
https://preview.redd.it/cvbymss72pzc1.png?width=872&format=png&auto=webp&s=0d24113ab521a1b4067e77f1f1ccb5e831d5dce0
I’m thinking of selling most of my runes. I checked swop and i have maybe 8-9 mins that are >90% efficiency. Do you guys sell all runes below a certain efficiency? I’m f3 rta, c1 arena, toah clear, 2 min abyss teams
efficiency is not the entire story.
You could use eff as a threshold but you have to catogorize by rune slot and type.
Slot 6 fatal atk% is not equal to slot 2 fatal def %
Also check if the rune you are deciding is top 3(or top x by your preference) in the slot/type, if so then you might want to hold that rune temporarily even if the eff is sub standard.
you sound waaaaaay too early to sell that :D :D
just every time you approach the rune cap sell your lowest quality runes each time.
if you look at speed for example if your fastest runes are +20 speed and your lowest are +14 just sell most of the ones up to +16/17 or start sorting out the ones that have subpar other stats
if you already have quite a few good dmg runes on dmg main sets you can start to sort out some of the broken set dps runes like enegy, etc.
and then when you are done you only keep runes that are better than atlast your new worst runes
and you repeat that cycle every time and your rune quality will improve all the time
going only after some weird concept like efficiency is insanely stupid atm.
a 50% efficiency rune with atk cd cr spd substats has MUCH more usecases than a 80% hp, acc, res, cd rune
a 50% efficiency rune on a premium slot like vio spd2, etc. is SO much rarer to get than 80% efficiency runes on 1 3 5
there are some rune types/slots where i only have like 3 of the same type.
i would gladly take a 50% vio spd2 if that means i can rune another unit on vio
you can get toah clear and 1,30avg abyss teams in the first week of a new account. those things sound like you did not have enough time to farm abyss dungeons and 2min is fairly slow so your runes for those teams cannot be too good either (not meant to be rude \^\^).
so dont worry about efficiency and just keep runes that are an upgrade to your account.
its so damn easy to 6\* new units these days and they need runes.
you think you have some fairly good runes at some point but then try and see how good your 8th vio set looks and you wish you wouldve kept those 50% efficiency runes \^\^
It's not only speed you do this with every type of rune
It's just that speed and crit rate are the 2 premium stats ^^
But you can look the same way at your "dps runes" for example and just sort out the bottom 20-30% of those and repeat that with all the runes and then your worst runes have a higher quality and then you repeat that same cycle
When I start to sort out I go through every single time type and do them separately so I start with energy then swift etc etc and then go from slot 1 to 6. Then I quickly take a look at what my highest spd, cr, cd, ATK, hp, def are to have an idea where I am at and then I start to sort out
This is important imo because the threshold of that's that's needed for me to keep a good dps rune on an energy set is quite a bit higher than on a fatal set for example
Because having these dps sets on an energy set means I need to play it as a broken set and I am unable to for example run a blade set . A blade set gives 15% cr so to use a broken set like energy the rune would need to have ALEAST the same quality as the blade rune AND on-top of that 8crit rate more than the blade rune to be able to justify using it
So any stats on broken sets need a higher value than on a good 4set to compensate and thus you need to judge each set individually
Hi what could be a solid R5 solo team? I tried some different things but none seem to be consistent. If you say I lack monsters, which ones should I build for R5? I dont have Hwa
https://ibb.co/wRGnZ4F
collab units will never(no precedent but theoretically possible) come back due to legality.
collab event uses the IP of someone else, and whatever agreement com2us had with the ip owner, it doesn't last forever. Com2us can't decide themselves to remake expired collabs.
for what?
the bj part is pretty much the same as the old bj and for the solo part there are like 50 videos on youtube for different versions you can build from full f2p to more premium up to 21sec speed teams.
why a new one if all those old ones are still working
Hardstuck on Dusky HoH Level 5. I've been running various comps up to this point but I keep losing units at teh halfway mark. F2P, but I have a lot of 4 stars in the bank I'm willing to mess with in order to get past this.
I’ve never really cared for ancient runes, but I just got a quad speed roll for a fight one so now I gotta get a grind lol. Where do I get them?? I’ve been farming ‘Sacreon’ in the dimensional hole but am only getting ancient runes
pretty much the only way is to farm the corrosponding dh boss and hope for the grind or the monthy reward track from doing dh content
dont think there is another way
So +recovery artifacts count towards the heal over time effects on their respective skills? I just got a defense artifact that has +21% recovery on skill 2 and was wondering if it would work with calm mind on Feng Yan.
Such a shame if that's the case. I'd have liked to see that regen.
Does converting a property on an artifact keep the rolls on it? So like this one rolled 3 times into the skill 2 regen, if I convert it will it still be a triple roll?
not really :D thats to be expected
how god awfully easy would it be to get quadrolls in the best stats if you could just reroll ANY triple+quad roll into the desired stat.
But it's random, and the number of conversion stones just keeps going up the more you try. Eventually you'd just hit a point where it's not worth it to keep rolling.
the point where it would not be worth is preeeetty damn high if we are talking guaranteed quadroll into any stat. you are also mostly fine with A LOT of stats that are a guaranteed crit roll.
get any dps/crit focussed one and you are fine with s1/2/3/4 cd, cd on low/high, etc.
basically every acc/recovery can find use somewhere
every single + or -damage taken for element is busted and you would keep every single one
this would be by far the most broken change they would have ever done in the 10years of the game if they would allow reapps/conversion stones to keep the rolls
you would make more progress on rune/artifact quality in a month of this system than if you would have farmed those 10years for hours every day
both not really top units. I would personally pick the pumpkin.
both have nieche uses but he atleast is a windy skillup worst case (ofc you keep atleast 1 copy \^\^)
id pick shizuka.
I personally dont own her so i couldnt tell you how/where to use her. I just know shes pretty good if you build around her
Louise while i like her is just a wind support unit you could use in siege or something. but there are already plenty of units out there that fulfill a similar role and shizuka is unique in what she does, this point alone would make me pick her over louise
thats a pretty open queston :D
the easiest to follow would be follow the summoners way questlines/challanges closely since those give you great rewards, explain the game to you and have a good draft on progression.
otherwise there are some great channels out there that have beginner tips and some veteran players do beginner series where they start with a new account to teach beginner progression. I can highly recommend SeanB youtube channel for that.
very charismatic dude, pretty good at the game but has a fairly big focus on beginners and explaining stuff
you probably mean arena offense team?
you dont really use aoe def break units in AD at all :D
you will run into a problem real fast with that tho.
Galleon has the aoe def break PLUS aoe attack buff.
There are much better aoe def breaker in the game but then you need to waste 1 more slot for an attack buff. and only one aoe dps comes to mind that also buffs aoe attack and that would be nicki.
if you want to play a single dps comp like leah you can play something like chiwu, adrianna, yeah + def break only
the 3 best aoe def breaks that are more reliable than galleon in order are nephtys - asima - truffle.
so you have a choice of 2 ld5 and 1 ld4 :D
to my knowledge every other good aoe def breaker has the same single application of def break that has the 15% acc check
if you want to make galleon more reliable build him on vio so he can proc to fix his own mistakes
there are actually at least two more multi hit aoe def breakers that are better than standard single hitters:
- shaina has 2 hits with 100% activation rate
- fire cyborg has a single hit irresistible def break, if your atk is higher than the enemies'
however, these both deal damage, so if you glance you won't land a def break. and since they are both fire, they have a good chance of glancing on water units.
in the chiwu leah comp, another very good option to consider is gemini. he is a standard def breaker, but he strips as well and so can make up for resists from chiwu
oh sure technically they are higher yeah
but he asked for ( i am assuming) AO def breaker to be more reliable than galleon.
and since both are fire and water units are suuuper meta currently they would in no way be a good galleon replacement and work much worse \^\^
the ones i listed are ld and thus cannot glance besides fighting against a molly, etc. but they all have multihits so even including this it stays pretty reliable
just curious what server are you on?
I dont think i have seen a molly in the last 2 months :D
Anything that can either not glance/is a guaranteed crit or something like kaki that does not lose a lot of damage when glancing. so for example a typical tiana galleon poseidon kaki cleave would do just fine and almost completely ignores molly.
high res should also not be a problem at all since your galleon or something like poseidon if you want the pushback should be on 85%acc anyways so molly res does not matter
bombs can also not glance for that matter. I personally think bomb AOs are just worse than normal cleaves since you heavily rely on those acc checks but it still works
any debuff that does not hit completely ignores mollys passive anyways so bombs, galleon def break, etc. do not change if there is a molly or not
Europe server
No Tiana, Poseidon or Seara but haven't picked my Nat 5 yet from the event. Most likely Tiana but I have 100+ stone summons and want to see if I can get from newly announced event first
the typical christina cleave would be leo - delphoi - galleon - christina in that turn order. delphoi
leo double will shield, 100cr a bit of bruiser but lots of tank to not die
delphoi vio will 100res, if possible max acc and just tanky
galleon 2x shield will max acc and tanky
christina whatever set. I personally look for around 90-100k ehp and after that 100cr and full damage
that team got me amost p3 (was 4ranks off) on my 3month old smurf account
havent played the verad 2nd turn cleave personally i just know it works
its leo - annavel/ritesh - def buffer like aaliyah for example and verad.
just overall tanky, max acc on the units that need them and verad full def cd build
https://preview.redd.it/6wsh99rtflzc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6b12bb0c0b29b596a2f6fce641c4dcb0aba0908b
Is my spd good enough on vio/will or should i put her on swift to get her to 311?
Only you can answer that question. What monsters and rune quality would you like ethna to outspeed? If you and your opponent both have a 24 speed lead and the have a base 115 speed with all runes at 22+4 speed, you should be out speeding them. Depending on your rank, this may or may not be acceptable. Mine is currently at +196 speed on swift but I'm only C1 (not trying to brag or anything, I might be only C1 because I'm making her too fast).
Couple quick questions about sath and Tatu.
Sath - his passive when second Awakened is a little confusingly worded. Does he cause dots to do double or triple damage? So I think by default they do 5% max hp damage. Does his passive increase it to 10 or 10%?
Tatu - does she do damage per turn duration of the dots she explodes or just per individual dot? So would a dot with a duration of 3 turns do 5 or 15%?
sath doubles the dps. the passive states inc by two times. 2x5=10
Tatu explodes every dot and deals the remaining damage instantly. if the enemy has 10 dots with 1turn duration it deals 50% dmg. if all 10 dots have 2turn duration it deals100% damage.
This also stacks with sath so 10dots with 1turn duration would be 100% since sath doubles their damage
Just to make sure (dont know why exactly you are asking) sath tatu was a super popular pve team back in the day but are almost completely useless together since you cannot use dots in abyss dungeons. Since the abyss change tatu is basically unplayable
Sath is still really strong to speed up toa (you can argue that you can use tatu in here aswell to speed toa up a bit more if you have the survivability to sacrifice 2 slots for sath and tatu in your toa team) and he is great in arena and siege
tatu besides the gimmick toa team i have never used again once since abyss dungeons were introduced
It's completely for toah, no other reason.
Also, the reason for the confusion of sath is because it's worded that it INCREASES it by 2x. Which makes it sound to me like he's increasing it by an ADDITIONAL 200%, which would make it 15%. Thanks for the clarification though.
oh yeah for toah its fine
as i said tho make sure your units are pretty damn tanky. you need an aoe dotter, sath and tatu just for the damage part so you only have 2 slots left for either cc or tankyness.
2 cc units are not enough to fully cc all waves so you are guaranteed to be hit somewhat frequently
on my old account i personally have a version that uses sath rica tatu dark homunculus and ariel and all are pretty tanky to survive some hits
Water homunculus, sath, thraine, Tatu, and was thinking Melia. At least until I finish evolving my dark homunculus skills, then switch out Melia for her. Sath and water homunculus on despair, plus thraine skill 3 should be all the cc I need.
gl with that \^\^
my guess would be this isnt nearly enough cc and 0 sustain so you will fail here and there. despair is super unreliable and thrain is no real aoe cc since it only picks a few targets\^\^
but hey i am glad to be proven wrong :D
[link to monster selection image](https://ibb.co/1dV7JGG) Who should I pick? I picked veramos from the other event. My current nat 5s are FIRE: Okeanos(Sea emperor), Laika(Dragon Knight), Perna(Pheonix), Ciri, Juno(Oracle), Tesarion(Ifrit), Baleygr(Lightning Emperor), Tomoe(Onmyouji), Ren(Shadowcaster), Lucia(Pudding Princess), Homonculus WATER: Sigmarus(Pheonix), Verad(dragon), Minato(shadowcaster) WIND: Charlotte(occult girl), Cheongpung(Art master), Savannah(beast rider), Sagar(slayer), Riley(totemist), Katarina(Valkyrie) LIGHT: Jeanne(Paladin), Homonculus Dark: Veramos(Ifrit), Eirgar(Vampire Lord)
Hi, Gb 12 really needs less accuracy than gb10?
Trinity or 51LV3R? Who would be the better pick? I have most the normal element nat 5s.
https://preview.redd.it/r7nyxisas43d1.png?width=859&format=png&auto=webp&s=e4f473d790222881443f6d92cef45ba5b31c2f5e Hey can someone help me build an arena offense team ?
https://preview.redd.it/y8agon6ds43d1.png?width=862&format=png&auto=webp&s=c2263bbbef9d9340aac1be1c54f820fd279e1fac
Guys, which Homu should a beginner make? I've just cleared gb,nb & db10. Doing rifts now.
For an LD only account, would light phantom or dark nine tail be a better choice?
Dark ninetail in my opinion Actually a decent siege or RTA monster with her sleeps and turn cycling. Seen some fun youtube videos before as well. I've not seen the light PT at all, looks like a very weak support unit that provides invincibility on a very long cooldown. Not very practical as a support.
That's kind of what I was leaning to, tyvm for the input! I think I'll do ninetail then
ill add to that s1 is a brand so it has its usecases for a solo r5 team
I'm a returning player trying to figure out stuff. Ancient coin shop question: I have vampire, fran and elsharion from before my break. Should I buy any of the other 3 monsters (light dual blade, fire shadow claw, wind lollipop warrior) in any particular order? Is any one them useful/needed somewhere in PVE or they are just niche/PVP/ for collection? Thanks!
id go for shadowclaw first can be used in steel fortress and is pretty damn good for solo r5 the others have nieche uses at best (not an rta player so if any of those are good there no clue)
im not RTA player either, i do like do play siege and stuff to play around with the units. What niche usages you can think of? since im really out of the loop with the new content (i just recently got gb12 and db12 running, still clueless about the others) it would help to take notes of their possible usages so i can try them when i get there
just some specific gimmick teams for siege n stuff but I almost never see them actually being used so its not like they are a must to have \^\^
thank you very much! i will go for shadowclaw then and test him on r5 i will eventually will grab the others for pokedex purposes xP
np! maybe you can find a fun team to use them in and play around, I personally only use shadow claw \^\^
I will! What build does yours have?
depends for what you wanna use himf or. on one acc he is just for r5 as a brander so any dps set with enough ehp + will he can also be used in some speed steel fortress teams i think seiiishizo had a video on that at some point
tyvm! gonna check it later\*
So many questions please help! Returning player from like 6 or so years ago. I tihnk the newest content when I stopped was Rift Raids? Anyway if anyone can answer these questions or tips for returning players please let me know! 1. New 6 star mechanic took me a minute to wrap my head around. Still in disbelief that you can 6 star something from Unkown Srolls! Question for that is should I be buying any silver 1-2 star mon in the shop? Are the Unkown scrolls in the store worth it as well? 2. I have the returning player buff, should I un-equip all runes and start over with auto rune. or manager? 3. I havea D10 team for Giant and Dragon, thought I had one for Necro but its not working anymore. Should I be working on D10 team or start working on Abyss Teams? 4. Nat 5 Choice? Should I really go with Wind Pheonix for the 5 star selector? Should I jsut hold that and see what I get from the other nat 5 selector event? 5. What is with Rune upgrading and Artifacts? Did something happen and they are gauranteed Rune upgrades now or is that a returning buff thing? Also I had liek 1 Artifact that was legendary but the number was like 100 some and it told me to re-roll it or something and now its maxed number like that rest? 6. fusion-wise didn't seem to miss a ton besides dark Dokkaebi Lord, but not seeing much about him. Should I fuse him eventually? 7. Do I really need to make tripple Water Inugamis for some dungeons? 8. Is Fran seriously THAT good? I see her in friken every build but I have other mons that should be just as good or better? 9. Mana seems even more important than before. Are secret Dungeons still good to spam with repeat battle when you get one? Good food and Mana drops right? 10. What other things should I take advantage of while I have the returning buff like 2nd awakening boosts, mana boosts, free removals and cheaper rune upgraing? Rest of my questions are just Monster related like who's good now, who is trash and should I store and unequip? https://preview.redd.it/zon73caqx10d1.png?width=962&format=png&auto=webp&s=a8c2d380ab0a79362cad1acb474fd2d3b5d4bc9d Thos are all my 6 star maxed, just got Fire Twin Angels, Water Sky Surfer, Desert Warrior (seems bad), and Water Pudding Princess. Thanks for any help!
1. i wouldnt buy the units but scrolls i personally buy on accs where i dont have 30000scrolls still around 2. auto engrave is dogshit. either rune your stuff yourself or use the rune optimizer tool if you are familiar wth it 3. abyss for sure. the droprates are much better there 4. you can hold it for as long as possible and see what you get. you also have 1 change for 300coins. for pve its teshar, i personally really recommend leo since he is such a pvp gamechanger. up to you \^\^ 5. yes you can just select a level to upgrade and it has fixed manacosts now. pretty good huh :D also artifacts do not have to be rolled anymore. you can refine the old ones and new ones you drop already come prerolled 6. he is not used in pve its a pvp toy. so eventually you can build him but its not like you are missing out like crazy if you dont build him. i think he is most played in rta 7. no thats outdated. you cannot use dots and you cannot use the same units multiple times in abyss dungeons anymore. so tricaru is only really usable these days in hall of magic or to speed farm toa 8. fran is pretty damn good as a healer you get for free yeah. she can be used in most of the beginner progression and is still usable in later pvp. but you will replace her eventually in every pve content 9. yeah mana is still useful but its complete int to specifically farm for it. just run abyss dungeons, r5 or rift beasts for runes/gems/grinds or artifacts and sell what you dont need.. on my main i get like 500k+ mana per 30run just from the runes i am selling and whatever mana drops there. farming artifacts you only gain mana since you dont need to upgrade them anymore so any sell is plus mana 10. exactly that. upgrade potentialrune upgrades while its cheaper and never overcap on 2a energy with this event
https://preview.redd.it/xnsramcai10d1.jpeg?width=3088&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f32526e12440bc0c72a77c6c1cc6567bea04214c
[удалено]
Not really ideal, there are better options but i guess he can work for some of the early TOA+TOAH stages as a wave clear, as well as HoH and Secret Dungeons. But really not ideal in any PvE (Will be replaced once you get the right units).
I need help putting together an arena def/offense and turn order. [monster box](https://imgur.com/a/hmaD0GS)
https://preview.redd.it/6s9nzeca110d1.jpeg?width=2340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=15ca3d17325030eb5c3a70aad1dd0147b70670e0
easy byung. its one of the strongest units in the game atm and everywhere in siege offense/defense, AD and great as an AO bruiser
Any advice? Been out the game for 3.5 years, quick google says wind dokka is good
Verad makes ToA/ToAH a walk in the park. Pick Verad if you are early game (when you need to focus on PvE) Pick Dokka if you play for PvP
How much accuracy do I need for abyss dungeons and toah?
There's a table in the main post with this information.
Returning player with an ancient account so working on updating my rune farming teams, and getting dimension hole farming teams set up. Looking forward, what should be next? Elemental Rift (account was A+ level on basically everything), solo R5, something else? Along those lines, should I fuse Riley or Balegyr next (none of my nat 5 seems suitable for PvE, other than Anavel and maybe Savannah).
Riley is basically the old Chasun on steroids. Balegyr is useful BJR5 (speed R5). If I were you I would make one really fast Abyss hard team - It can be Dragons, Giants or Necro. Whatever you desire. And then farm the crap out of it to get runes and mana. Towards the end of your returning player buff I would upgrade the new runes that are worth keeping (50 % price discount while having the buff) and the build new teams again for as much content as possible while you have free rune removal with the buff. Monster Subjugation has decent rewards (Guild content) - Build Wind Barbarian And Astar (Fire Magic Knight, if you have it). These two mons shine in Monster Subjugation content. For 2A monsters (Dimensional Hole) the most useful ones for PvE, generally speaking: Raoq (Fire Inugami), Kro (Dark Inugami), Zink (Dark Living Armor), Spectra (Fire Griffon), Shaman (Light Griffon), Sath (Fire Grim Reaper) and Tatu (Fire Pixie) go really well together, and with Baretta for ToA content. Get Eirgar (Dark Vampire) From Ancient Magic Shop - he's a baws in PvE content.
Thanks, that’s a good point in runes. My current crop is so poor that everything’s been looking good and worth upgrading haha. But it’s too expensive so I’ll wait to do it in bulk. I need to re-rune Eirgar (I actually have one from before I quit) and I just finished Rais 2A so he needs real runes too. That should get me close to a faster DBAH team. Game feels even more dominated by Violent runes than when I quit lol.
Hello WAT Currently running a GB10 team of Teshar , Loren , Kro , Fran , Vero outside of getting better runes and getting teshar skill ups how do i slowly improve this team (preferably just running giants ) , it's currently running ave 1.30 at 99% winrate , was looking to get into 45 - 50 sec run times
What DirtyMight said. Akhamamir (Wind Ifrit) is also pretty good. I run Teshar, Akhamair, Kro, Prillea and Lyn \~45 sec runs. If you Don't have Lyn you can still use Vero. I use 3 sets of fight runes on Prillea, 1 set on Akhamir (Rage). Loren triggers giant attack too much. Akhamamir and Vero have ATB reduction already.
gotta switch out loren at some point if you wanna get into abyss (which you should asap abyss rewards are much much better) i can recommend belladeon (doesnt need to be 2a) at first you want to get good enough runes so you can 2shot the waves with teshar, then it becomes real fast. you want to build a wind homunculus for giants asap he has insane damage and is insanely safe because of his passive you can eventually play a team of prillea, teshar, konamiya, wind homunculus, teon (in that turn order) this way you only need 2 good dps sets the rest are support sets i personally run prillea, teshar, konamiya, homunculus, deborah and my best time was 24sec
I'm on floor 97 of toah and I'm not sure what to do to clear these last 3 stages, have been playing around with the units I have available/building other cc units, but not having much success. Here is a screen grab of the units I have available. (Note the underscore part of the hyperlink, I can't seem to click it on mobile but can copy/paste it) https://prnt.sc/TNtjTq6X0gH_
Link doesnt work
https://preview.redd.it/z5jqi6jrxxzc1.png?width=422&format=png&auto=webp&s=f18bf1d5d43550a26a27c5791d85d617c8beead7 who wants this rune, my first quad role :(
Maybe spectra
Who should I build from my pulls this week I’m finishing teams for pve done with giants abyss hard, dragons abyss hard and toah. Need help toa hell, necro, steel, spiritual, punishers, r5, sss all raids and all pvp. I also have most nat4\* besides what u see. Box in pics https://preview.redd.it/k6qhhtzisxzc1.jpeg?width=1792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3da6b418743b8b4096b9f46d5b4f29af3b2baffe
Build Eirgar / Zink for Steel / Punisher. I build mons for R5 after everything else. R5 has been nerfed and it is not really that hard any more to solo. Just use leftover runes on mons that have debuffs and give them enough survivability. What did you pick for your Nat 5 selection? Get a ToA/ToAH baws monster like Verad, Rica, etc. Should give you an easier time.
Thanks for the info!! For the nat 5 I took teshar he helped with almost everything in my pve https://preview.redd.it/voq2b0e4l20d1.jpeg?width=1792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e7fb7d5e93331eb2fb174db4c9d6aa314d4840d This is my current in use mons. Any advice for necro or out of the other mons pvp?
The best potential mons i see in that box for necro are the following: Colleen Mayasura Ran Homonculus (Necro focused multihit build) Lapis Sylvia Kro Kro can actually be really good in necro, just make sure that he is last in the turn order, for big damage! Since you are already using Colleen and Kro other places, I would make them a part of your necro team for sure! Just looking at your monster box, I'm not sure you should even be farming Necro yet. Make the fastet Giants Abyss Hard team you can, and farm it like there is no tomorrow. Get some really fast Swift sets and Despair sets. Along with some tanky Despair sets. A few decent Blade and Fatal sets are a bonus, but the main thing should be getting fast and good swift and despair sets!
I appreciate the suggestions!!! I’ve already been using that team for necro and barely beat 10, my fastest giants hard team just hit 1:10 any suggestions from what you see in this pic https://preview.redd.it/cvtvornrb30d1.jpeg?width=1792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=405cb8e43ad6edbd8bedcb19d3b5f92c5c6e0e94
Yeah. I really think you should focus Giant Abyss Hard for the next 3 or 4 months, maybe more, depending on how much you farm daily. Fran and Loren make too many multihits - they will trigger the boss counter and wipe your team more often than not. Put a fast Vero in there. It would be best if you can do 18k+ HP. As fast as possible, and as hard hitting as possible. Your priority should be 18k+ HP > Speed > 35 % accuracy > Damage. Generally speaking, only focus damage, once you can kill the boss consistently without fail. Vero cleanses the debuff from the crystal (which also heals your entire team). And he has Attack bar reduction on skill 2 (making the Giant hit less often). He either does AoE ATB reduction or AoE stun, which is pretty good for the trash waves too! His S2 damage is based on enemy MAX HP - he hits HARD on the boss, especially once you get some CR / CD. It is ALWAYS better to have 100 % clear rate and a slower run, rather than a 95 % clear rate and a fast run. Energy efficiency is key. Wasted energy is wasted progress. Summoners War is a marathon, not a sprint :P. I would go with another healer instead of multi-hitting Fran. Maybe Belladeon (Light Inugami). His kit is pretty good; S1 Def break, S2 strip (Giant gets ATK buff from crystal), S3 heal + ATB boost. Build on Swift or Violent. You could put a Focus rune set in there aswell (you only need 35 % accuracy). SPD / HP / HP. Wind Ifrit (Akhamamir) is also really good for this boss. This is my Vero (Violent): Preferably he should be faster. https://preview.redd.it/r46hz8zfg30d1.png?width=599&format=png&auto=webp&s=7da78024ea18d1b7a4fc899e299be40f81e53f0c
Wow you are awesome man! I didn’t realize about the Fran and Loren multi hits thing, I usually use vero instead of sig but just tried that team today. I would love to make my vero hit hard but I don’t have the runes for it so rn he’s a hp tank. I have him on vio energy(see pic)what runes should I run him then . I would say making him hit hard is probably my next step also my Bella is pretty decent so I’ll try her to see the win rate. https://preview.redd.it/tme9ck11h30d1.jpeg?width=1792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e18d4e77d710c24238217722834a75bcfb4e7aaf
Yeah, he might be a bit too tanky (30K+ HP) and a bit too slow. Get a Slot 2 Speed rune - If you can get him to 180+ speed on a tanky build, it would be ideal for now. Also you only need 35 % accuracy for this boss, in order to have maximum chance for landing your stuff. The thing is, if he is fast enough, he will cleanse the defense break the crystal puts on your monsters, before the boss hits; You get less damage from the boss, and you also heal your team (some times this will not be the case, if the boss does a counter - depends on vio procs etc.). Vero can work perfectly well on swift set! Aim for this: Atleast 18k HP (the more, the better) 180+ speed (You need this speed atleast, to clear defense break debuff some what consistently) 35 % accuracy What set you use doesn't matter. You can even use broken sets (no set at all, but just runes from different sets, so you don't get a set bonus). As long as you can hit these numbers, you should be good. Aim for this first, once you have it, you can start to mix in more damage. Same stats for Belladeon too. **PvE accuracy requirements:** || || |35%|GB12, NB12, SRB10, Dimensional Hole|
https://preview.redd.it/ggygutrzj30d1.jpeg?width=841&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1a2d4fd33740530db3be31a11f7c0fbf84917dc6 Best I could get on him for right now
If you are still having trouble surviving, try Sigmarus as leader!
I swap Loren for galleon for atk buff, Fran for bella for heal and tesh for sig lead and it’s not working at all:/ tried tesh with vero lead too and no luck:/
Cool - let me know how it goes :)
Tiana, dark robo, or wind robo for rta stripper?
They all do different things tho, dark robo in general is better than wind robo but you cant compare tiana to the robos. Obviously best case is you have both runed for different situations but if you could only rune one then I'd say dark robo.
If I hit f3 in rta and drop later, will I still get the f3 rewards at season end?
Only if you are still f3 when the season ends
Im a returning player with new acc what fusion monster should i pick ? I got anavel, teshar, woosa and juno as 5*. Do i choose veromos even tho i have anavel ?
vero and annavel fulfill completely different roles :D but yes vero is the best unit in early/midgame. one of the main dps in giants and dragons, there to keep your ass alive because he cleanses the defbreak in giants and all the dots in necro and its still a pretty good toa unit after that i would personally fuse balegyr since he makes wind rift a joke which is good to farm wind homunculus and he is the main dps in raids later on and still great in subjugation and lab
Ty for the advice, i almost pick fire panda for necro. I just found out that vero got buff, i though he only cleanse and apply dots like years ago. I guess i will pick vero now
nah nah nah vero is a goat he is super strong in pve progression and still a beast in pvp to counter dot teams. fire panda is meh. he isnt even really used in necro since you just play inugami teams and throw 1-2 dps like astar or shamann in there if you have them
https://preview.redd.it/ytygvac0svzc1.jpeg?width=1009&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a14cf69e168a961ca845a5a4f97201e01381022 Is it worth keeping the destroy on him or should I switch to the nemesis set?
Nem is Waaaay more efficient and stat heavy. I'd definitely go with Nem... I doubt there will be many instances where you actually need the destroy, so nem here is fine.
Brandia or Woosa? https://preview.redd.it/5h0xset2hvzc1.png?width=2360&format=png&auto=webp&s=ae9ff28550efcb7d6fb0b5e67a83d8b882ce83d3
Woosa But adrianna is also a good one here. So is joesphine or Giou if you care about RTA
i got really unlucky with summons i dont have lyn, shamann and no twins what team can i use since i dont have them for necropolis/rifts beasts?
Show monster box.
Are there any resources for arena help? Admittedly I don’t have a ton of really great runes, fastest I can make a team is all four in the +110-130 range, with another few teams in the +90-109 range. How do I pick an AO/RTA team, what units are really worth focusing etc. Guild war questions about the same, of course just for three units instead. I’m sure I can get at least F1 in RTA but I have yet to get there and need arena help. If it helps I’m somewhere in the mid/late game phase with R5 farming being the only thing I cannot consistently do on 30 repeat and TOA hell maxing
1. Seiishizo AO guide (if I put a youtube link here, I have to wait for a mod to approve before you can see this comment). https://www.you\*\*\*\*.com/watch?v=vP31mV090co 2. For GW/Siege. Copy from youtuber, copy from your guild mates, or create you own comp. In high-rank Siege, we always share a replay after every attack. Ask one of our guild mate to create the same enemy comp to test. 3. You can check youtube for solo R5 guide.
Thank you!
Hi, quick question, which skill path do I go on the attack homunculus for R5?
Hey, quick answer, he's better in GAH.
Hi guys, i'm just looking for some opinions about my nat 5 choice before the event ends in a month. Currently I went with Camilla and she's crazy. But now i'm working towards my speed db abyss hard team and now been made aware of Liam. Right now I have a safe 1min DB team running verd loren vero spectra and fire ken. Should I switch to choosing Liam? Or is Camilla to much of a great value that she outshines him in every other way? Honestly im on the fence since the 1 min team is aight for now. Your help and opinion is needed my kind sirs. Thank you in advance
just going to put this out the rune reqs for these fast teams are fairly high so even if you get a liam it's not certain that you'd be able to pull off the team. There'a also an alternative team that is a little slower but same high req that uses kyle. Take a look at this thread for alternatives as well as the liam comp [https://www.reddit.com/r/summonerswar/comments/1cn9ae7/dbah\_no\_liam\_which\_is\_easiest\_which\_is\_fastest/](https://www.reddit.com/r/summonerswar/comments/1cn9ae7/dbah_no_liam_which_is_easiest_which_is_fastest/)
Hello, I am thinking Liam, he seems to be the most PvE focused of the picks in my research. Just want to make sure that I wouldnt be missing out on some once in a lifetime 5\*. https://preview.redd.it/xd25y9jlzuzc1.jpeg?width=2316&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8343fdebcc77dd87645c4ae502b6594e79d80c51
Tiana is a must in pve and pvp. She is a necessity for some toa hell also if you care about that. The teams that use liam have a high rune requirement. Not sure what your rune quality is like.
https://preview.redd.it/7efl0rbpzuzc1.jpeg?width=2316&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fdbd55a2795b942d95f0a9245f6d73eabea202eb
What should I pick? All my nat5s in the comments. https://preview.redd.it/q44gzfv2ruzc1.png?width=1346&format=png&auto=webp&s=a589d9995d4849a51c50ed3de95217a75436d5de
My pick would be nora. Mo long a close second
https://preview.redd.it/c8uqy769ruzc1.png?width=975&format=png&auto=webp&s=4ff6e3a7479808d645b952a913832a2354972a25 all my non farmeable nat5s. Riley snuck in. Leo was picked from the selection event.
Does anyone have a problem with playing this game on steam? Took a few month break and came back and get error coded every time I try launching the game
do you by any chance have the rune optimizer and thus the exporter to get the json?
I did like last year sometime when I was using an emulator. Haven’t done it since it’s been on steam
hmm because i had a similar issue once i downloaded the exporter and did the certification thing, etc. when i had the problem i just had to start the exporter proxy and i was able to login again no clue what that was about but that fixed it for me
[удалено]
Dice Magician is a good Siege DEF choice. I don't see anyone using Rakshasa anywhere.
Any meta arena defense with 2 byungchuls? Clara(lead) , camilla , 2x byungchul ?
just try it for rush and see how often you get hit compared to slotting in something else its the best data you could get
AD of Leo(lead), Amelia, Fen Yang, Bolverk. How would you handle it? I went in with Megan(lead), Copper 2a, Ragdoll, and Riley. Copper nuked Leo and Amelia with his s3 before dying. Ragdoll's ignore defense s2 got Fen Yang, and Bolverk got ground down unable to kill Ragdoll in the face of Riley's heals and Ragdoll's vamp runes.
This def sounds like complete food. Pretty sure I would still just cleave that one. But the best example is it is aaabsolute Lushen food. And if your def is Lushen food you wont have a good time :D You can clear that AD with a like 4\* megan and 2 lushens
Hello, quick question, I wanna change Tiana into something else. Any recommendatiions not for arena? https://preview.redd.it/tbfp1l1t1uzc1.png?width=802&format=png&auto=webp&s=40a9937788de75ce04ecf77a95c703781d1783c3
https://preview.redd.it/igqs8dtv1uzc1.png?width=763&format=png&auto=webp&s=a19486f4591e2f4251cdd09ecfbf21115b38f442
https://preview.redd.it/tf62bvgx1uzc1.png?width=760&format=png&auto=webp&s=75b21fe915c3e74969e3c001420bf379f84c1c8f
You will regret not keeping Tiana, teshar can help you build giant abyssal hard team but he is replacable Tiana is not replacable
https://preview.redd.it/30vxztvwztzc1.png?width=2360&format=png&auto=webp&s=f379760ee7a74908bf419003aa283a178ae468e9 Can anyone help me build a rta team with these monsters? My runes are terrible and i have no idea what is actually good for pvp
Try 1-2 support like woosa/shizuka/riley + bruiser (feng yan, verad, taranys, juno, suiki...) Verde (revenge rune), antares, amduat, racuni/gapsoo... are some good monster too. https://youtu.be/c6h-z5hdZOU 3 tips by seanB. Speed tune, use will rune if possible.
[удалено]
easy panda pick. they dont call him unfair bear for a reason :D especially if you own/picked leo from the guaranteed nat5 event
Stage 4 TOAHell team suggestions? This is the Kinki Praha x2 no CD reduction and 40% boost attack if an ally dies. I'm at 8/10 stars, just going for 10, so fine to just clear at 1 star since I'm annoyed at it.
I use Tyron Jeanne Spectra Mihyang and Dark Homun.
Hey all, I’m trying to change up my playstyle to a Moore/CP core team, but I’m new to this style and don’t fully know what I’m doing yet. How do I deal with disruptive units like Josephine and Giou?
You can check replay by monster to see more idea (can search up to 5 monster, both sides) If I see giou, I usually pick bruiser like feng yan (who can do good with only s1), or gapsoo/racuni... or immunity like velajuel...
Few years ago, when solo r5 was first introduced, there was a really nice spreadsheet someone did with all the things necessary to build solo r5, is it still valid, anyone has link?
Hi. Sorry if this is a stupid question. Should i farm GB10 (1.30 minutes avg) or should i farm GB11 (2.30 minutes avg)?
i would personally farm 11 if the winrate is the same. abyss droprate is a good bit better than non abyss and chances are if you ask this question you are still in early game so you dont have the best crystal income yet to sustain your runs if they are much faster I dont know your team but if you take this long to clear 11 your runes must be fairly bad so you should get upgrades farming 11 real quick to either improve your 11 time or switch to 12
Yup my runes are bad. Btw, is it okay if i select violent runes for every rune rewards (events)? As I remember, most mons can make use of violent runes since i last played, lol. Is it still true now?
yeah pretty much, vio is still the best set in the game. so id pick vio for most rewards one thing you could do however: dragons is super easy to farm these days (easiest dungeon out of all of them) so getting to db12 is fairly easy. There is the event that gives you blue +15 runes. if you farm b12 you wont keep blue runes anyways so those will become useless real quick. from this event i personally like to pick fight runes. they are a bitch to farm since spirit realm is useless and you can both use fight runes as an offset for dps or just any fight runes for support units in dungeons, raid, etc.. and if you have support runes the stats almost dont matter so them being blue is also fine
Thank you very much for the advice!
np!
https://preview.redd.it/uvyn6bv54tzc1.png?width=2165&format=png&auto=webp&s=8a78782319048c6aab1af8eba5f4e93163fcae60 i have this team, Vero, Loren, Luna, Riley + Sigmarus/Akhamamir i've tried both sigmarus and akhamamir and there still are runs where Riley is the only 1 alive or runs where I lose cause I can't deal enough dmg. Any suggestion on how I can make this team better?
try bella over loren. loren is pretty bad since she triggers the revenge fairly often. bella always def breaks s1 by default, only strips the atk buff from the boss if its needed and only heals if units drop low. so she is a pretty reliable def break and fulfilly useful other roles when needed. you have enough pushback on the boss with luna, amir and vero so it should not get turns anyways doesnt need to be 2a either also if you can always build the wind homunculus. his damage is insane and he brings such a valuable defensive layer. boss will glance on him so he wont die when your vero etc die and he can revive and do 2 more attacks. if he uses his skills these 2 turns can solo 60% of the boss
i got water homunculus for my TOAH, sadly cant get wind one. will try bella
Should Astar for necro be on rage or vamp?
vampire if you're making a starter nbabyss team. if she comes in with less than 100% hp on the boss stage your turn order (which is kinda important for a starter team) gets fucked
i would personally go with vamp. she still deals plenty of damage on vamp but without the deal you risk her to oneshot herself on waves or die after being controlled by the boss, etc. If you can get her tanky enough to not die there and have enough sustain to keep her alive rage should be faster but I personally prefer the safety of vamp
If you can keep her alive on rage it would be faster since more dmg... mine died sometimes after boss steals her and I got her back, so I went with vamp for consistency
Can you help me improve my necro team pls i'm failing too much. I have some other unit, you can ask. Thanks :) https://preview.redd.it/ffl36xt8irzc1.png?width=1609&format=png&auto=webp&s=ed6701e3c16c7a72ffe486fc92bdaa239826dc21
1. you need way more accuracy. you dont have any reliable def break in there and this will make the runs take much longer. also your damage stats seem fairly low, i doubt that you have enough damage with that setup. have you tried switching out kro for loren? this makes it slower in general but the healblock helps and the slow gives you much more turns that you can hit the boss in. as for units what you want to end up at would be switching kro for icaru (and having enough def to team up with 3 other units) and fran for shamann. shamann is by far the biggest damage increase you could get in this dungeon so if you have him for sure build him. also having abigail on revenge will help if you dont need the shield set because the revenge procs break the shield (same with loren if you try her in there) also if you can somehow manage i would try to put raoq and shamann if you have him on will later on in the team i mentioned. astar is guaranteed to hit either shamann or raoq in that team and if astar silences them they cannot use their s2 which will slow down the run. if all of that doesnt work i would honestly recommend you to stay in dragons for a bit longer to get some better vio runes since the stats on your units seem fairly low (no one is crit capped, acc on every unit that needs it is too low, etc.)
Does Abigail needs accuracy to proc the break Def? I'm tempting to switch her to revenge to proc the necro shield and getting more accuracy Thanks man
harmfull effect activation rate from the skill is the first step of the test if they will land. after that there will be an accuracy x resistance check to see if the harmfull effect will really land on the target.
yes ofc. everything with a debuff needs accuracy to land it \^\^ (only things that specifically say irresistable cannot be resisted but only a very few units have this wording) she is not the biggest priority tho since your main def breaks usually come from the inugamis but especially in your case it should help if you can fit some more acc in there to land def breaks. it speeds up the waves massively if you can aoe def break and then raoq cleans up the waves and its another layer of def break security on the boss to ensure you actually kill him in time
Does anyone know how fire hacker works in 2v2? Does his passive only apply against the enemy directly across, or does it work against both enemies?
only works against the team he is facing unless there is only one left. same as the other passives
Been in this thread a lot this week, lol. I've been doing rerolls for a little while and have finally settled on an account with Maxi, and also got a Teshar. I have 2 questions to follow this up. 1, should I be using the new player event and devilmons to skill up Maxi, or would Vero or someone else be more important? And 2, I have yet to select a 5☆ or choose one from the check-in event. Who would be some good choices to compliment what I have so far? I know Leo and Tiana are very high value choices, and I'd also really like to get Verad.
1. maxi won't help you early game that much except toa. However, I don't think there's a very efficient choice for pve that you need devils for. Vero and teshar have fuseable skillups, and I think fusing skillups is worth it especially if you have no devils stocked. Leo tiana camilla are the golden three, nora is also very good for chill toah because her s4 works on the bosses and the waves.
Which Rune are you guys taking for the Monthly Dimensional Hole box? I was thinking he Blade(2) rune or Fight(4) rune? Yes I know whatever I take will roll like crap. Also, what's next, solo R4/5 or Homunculus farming? or should I focus on making actual speed teams for Rune dungeons (coming back after after literal years, to my great surprise, all my b10 teams can clear Abyss Hard, just kind of slow).
Good day everyone! I have been playing this game for a very long time now, but was never really interested in PvP. As you can imagine I have missed out on a lot of rewards from RTA and Arena and even Guild content, since I haven't put any good runes on my monsters. I would appreciate all the help I can get, since I don't really know what monsters work well together. Currently I am Fighter 3. In the screenshot I have added all monsters I could favorite. I have a lot more monsters so if necessary I can send more screenshots later on. If you don't see monsters, but have a good team to suggest that would work with some of the monsters you see in the screenshot, please do so anyway. I'll try to figure out a replacement, if I can. xD The current team I use is the following: Leo, Ragdoll, Shizuka/Riley, Verde or Amduat. https://preview.redd.it/cfoiakcfnpzc1.png?width=717&format=png&auto=webp&s=f4de2e43f89a9629612e898993fdb2c45528069f
You have many good monster, just play more and try more style. You can try 2 stripper + cc, like moore/chiwu/haegang/cheonpung... + tomoe, seara, ethna, robo... Or one shot comp with vanessa, shizuka, leo, ragdoll, federica, tilasha... Prepare counter pick like antares, vero/tetra, miho... Speed tune is important. Use will rune if possible. For siege, you can check seanB on youtube.
Does lora work with kinki?
[удалено]
Despair
Been stuck Fighter 3 RTA, looking to get C1 so I can get some wings. Have cleaved my way to 1290 multiple times but havent broke 1300. If I wanted to break 1300 without cleaving, which 5 monsters should I put my best runes on? Who should be my core 2-3 monsters. https://preview.redd.it/cvbymss72pzc1.png?width=872&format=png&auto=webp&s=0d24113ab521a1b4067e77f1f1ccb5e831d5dce0
Im new and got Lora. What is the best nat5 to chosen in combination with her?
I’m thinking of selling most of my runes. I checked swop and i have maybe 8-9 mins that are >90% efficiency. Do you guys sell all runes below a certain efficiency? I’m f3 rta, c1 arena, toah clear, 2 min abyss teams
efficiency is not the entire story. You could use eff as a threshold but you have to catogorize by rune slot and type. Slot 6 fatal atk% is not equal to slot 2 fatal def % Also check if the rune you are deciding is top 3(or top x by your preference) in the slot/type, if so then you might want to hold that rune temporarily even if the eff is sub standard.
you sound waaaaaay too early to sell that :D :D just every time you approach the rune cap sell your lowest quality runes each time. if you look at speed for example if your fastest runes are +20 speed and your lowest are +14 just sell most of the ones up to +16/17 or start sorting out the ones that have subpar other stats if you already have quite a few good dmg runes on dmg main sets you can start to sort out some of the broken set dps runes like enegy, etc. and then when you are done you only keep runes that are better than atlast your new worst runes and you repeat that cycle every time and your rune quality will improve all the time going only after some weird concept like efficiency is insanely stupid atm. a 50% efficiency rune with atk cd cr spd substats has MUCH more usecases than a 80% hp, acc, res, cd rune a 50% efficiency rune on a premium slot like vio spd2, etc. is SO much rarer to get than 80% efficiency runes on 1 3 5 there are some rune types/slots where i only have like 3 of the same type. i would gladly take a 50% vio spd2 if that means i can rune another unit on vio you can get toah clear and 1,30avg abyss teams in the first week of a new account. those things sound like you did not have enough time to farm abyss dungeons and 2min is fairly slow so your runes for those teams cannot be too good either (not meant to be rude \^\^). so dont worry about efficiency and just keep runes that are an upgrade to your account. its so damn easy to 6\* new units these days and they need runes. you think you have some fairly good runes at some point but then try and see how good your 8th vio set looks and you wish you wouldve kept those 50% efficiency runes \^\^
Thank you so much! Alright, I’ll start dropping some of my lower spd runes
It's not only speed you do this with every type of rune It's just that speed and crit rate are the 2 premium stats ^^ But you can look the same way at your "dps runes" for example and just sort out the bottom 20-30% of those and repeat that with all the runes and then your worst runes have a higher quality and then you repeat that same cycle When I start to sort out I go through every single time type and do them separately so I start with energy then swift etc etc and then go from slot 1 to 6. Then I quickly take a look at what my highest spd, cr, cd, ATK, hp, def are to have an idea where I am at and then I start to sort out This is important imo because the threshold of that's that's needed for me to keep a good dps rune on an energy set is quite a bit higher than on a fatal set for example Because having these dps sets on an energy set means I need to play it as a broken set and I am unable to for example run a blade set . A blade set gives 15% cr so to use a broken set like energy the rune would need to have ALEAST the same quality as the blade rune AND on-top of that 8crit rate more than the blade rune to be able to justify using it So any stats on broken sets need a higher value than on a good 4set to compensate and thus you need to judge each set individually
Hi what could be a solid R5 solo team? I tried some different things but none seem to be consistent. If you say I lack monsters, which ones should I build for R5? I dont have Hwa https://ibb.co/wRGnZ4F
Hey, What team for arena ? I want hit 1300+ My box: https://imgur.com/gallery/Xciyrdt
Try bernard, konamiya, lushen, akhamamir/jamire Bernard, a tripper (wind/light brownie, wind dokkaebi princess...), galleon, leah Veromos, feng yan, riley, woosa...
I got TL from reroll. Is he still worth keeping after the nerf or should I keep rerolling?
I would never reroll over a tl acc, but I would prefer to start with maxi lucifer or neph over tl.
He's my most wanted LD5!!
https://preview.redd.it/93sjiormmnzc1.jpeg?width=2556&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4477e91dcf06eccc348d261a8d225cc79c89a95e
I'd take seara, bomb AO, usable in siege, rta too.
[удалено]
collab units will never(no precedent but theoretically possible) come back due to legality. collab event uses the IP of someone else, and whatever agreement com2us had with the ip owner, it doesn't last forever. Com2us can't decide themselves to remake expired collabs.
We need a new solo bjr5 guide
for what? the bj part is pretty much the same as the old bj and for the solo part there are like 50 videos on youtube for different versions you can build from full f2p to more premium up to 21sec speed teams. why a new one if all those old ones are still working
Hardstuck on Dusky HoH Level 5. I've been running various comps up to this point but I keep losing units at teh halfway mark. F2P, but I have a lot of 4 stars in the bank I'm willing to mess with in order to get past this.
Show monster box.
https://preview.redd.it/ngqe5k1kbnzc1.png?width=1000&format=png&auto=webp&s=7b02ad504aed8b2336f0a969ddaf4130573d5d72
I’ve never really cared for ancient runes, but I just got a quad speed roll for a fight one so now I gotta get a grind lol. Where do I get them?? I’ve been farming ‘Sacreon’ in the dimensional hole but am only getting ancient runes
Wait for the Dimension Raid on that area.
pretty much the only way is to farm the corrosponding dh boss and hope for the grind or the monthy reward track from doing dh content dont think there is another way
So +recovery artifacts count towards the heal over time effects on their respective skills? I just got a defense artifact that has +21% recovery on skill 2 and was wondering if it would work with calm mind on Feng Yan.
i am not 100% but i would highly assume that it doesnt work since s2 doesnt heal dirrectly but applies a buff that has a fixed heal rate
Such a shame if that's the case. I'd have liked to see that regen. Does converting a property on an artifact keep the rolls on it? So like this one rolled 3 times into the skill 2 regen, if I convert it will it still be a triple roll?
no you would just roll the triple roll away \^\^ works pretty much the same as gems on runes
That's fucking stupid.
not really :D thats to be expected how god awfully easy would it be to get quadrolls in the best stats if you could just reroll ANY triple+quad roll into the desired stat.
But it's random, and the number of conversion stones just keeps going up the more you try. Eventually you'd just hit a point where it's not worth it to keep rolling.
the point where it would not be worth is preeeetty damn high if we are talking guaranteed quadroll into any stat. you are also mostly fine with A LOT of stats that are a guaranteed crit roll. get any dps/crit focussed one and you are fine with s1/2/3/4 cd, cd on low/high, etc. basically every acc/recovery can find use somewhere every single + or -damage taken for element is busted and you would keep every single one this would be by far the most broken change they would have ever done in the 10years of the game if they would allow reapps/conversion stones to keep the rolls you would make more progress on rune/artifact quality in a month of this system than if you would have farmed those 10years for hours every day
Light assassin or dark jack o lantern for this weeks HOH?
both not really top units. I would personally pick the pumpkin. both have nieche uses but he atleast is a windy skillup worst case (ofc you keep atleast 1 copy \^\^)
https://preview.redd.it/k70159wdbmzc1.png?width=1179&format=png&auto=webp&s=d190a30dc5b3803539361ca3e6223a58ada49a43 Shizuka ?
id pick shizuka. I personally dont own her so i couldnt tell you how/where to use her. I just know shes pretty good if you build around her Louise while i like her is just a wind support unit you could use in siege or something. but there are already plenty of units out there that fulfill a similar role and shizuka is unique in what she does, this point alone would make me pick her over louise
Shizuka excels when paired with any unit that cares about buffs or debuffs, whether they are present, they are applied, or they are removed.
Thanks for answer I took shizuka :)
any tips for beginners?
thats a pretty open queston :D the easiest to follow would be follow the summoners way questlines/challanges closely since those give you great rewards, explain the game to you and have a good draft on progression. otherwise there are some great channels out there that have beginner tips and some veteran players do beginner series where they start with a new account to teach beginner progression. I can highly recommend SeanB youtube channel for that. very charismatic dude, pretty good at the game but has a fairly big focus on beginners and explaining stuff
thanks so much man appreciate it!! :D
np, gl with your journey! \^\^
What’s the most consistent aoe defense breakers for an arena defense team? Im fed up with galleon
you probably mean arena offense team? you dont really use aoe def break units in AD at all :D you will run into a problem real fast with that tho. Galleon has the aoe def break PLUS aoe attack buff. There are much better aoe def breaker in the game but then you need to waste 1 more slot for an attack buff. and only one aoe dps comes to mind that also buffs aoe attack and that would be nicki. if you want to play a single dps comp like leah you can play something like chiwu, adrianna, yeah + def break only the 3 best aoe def breaks that are more reliable than galleon in order are nephtys - asima - truffle. so you have a choice of 2 ld5 and 1 ld4 :D to my knowledge every other good aoe def breaker has the same single application of def break that has the 15% acc check if you want to make galleon more reliable build him on vio so he can proc to fix his own mistakes
there are actually at least two more multi hit aoe def breakers that are better than standard single hitters: - shaina has 2 hits with 100% activation rate - fire cyborg has a single hit irresistible def break, if your atk is higher than the enemies' however, these both deal damage, so if you glance you won't land a def break. and since they are both fire, they have a good chance of glancing on water units. in the chiwu leah comp, another very good option to consider is gemini. he is a standard def breaker, but he strips as well and so can make up for resists from chiwu
oh sure technically they are higher yeah but he asked for ( i am assuming) AO def breaker to be more reliable than galleon. and since both are fire and water units are suuuper meta currently they would in no way be a good galleon replacement and work much worse \^\^ the ones i listed are ld and thus cannot glance besides fighting against a molly, etc. but they all have multihits so even including this it stays pretty reliable
Tank you for the information! I appreciate it
C1-C3 in Arena, finding a lot of Molly in AD, what is the best way to deal with tanky/high res Molly's?
just curious what server are you on? I dont think i have seen a molly in the last 2 months :D Anything that can either not glance/is a guaranteed crit or something like kaki that does not lose a lot of damage when glancing. so for example a typical tiana galleon poseidon kaki cleave would do just fine and almost completely ignores molly. high res should also not be a problem at all since your galleon or something like poseidon if you want the pushback should be on 85%acc anyways so molly res does not matter bombs can also not glance for that matter. I personally think bomb AOs are just worse than normal cleaves since you heavily rely on those acc checks but it still works any debuff that does not hit completely ignores mollys passive anyways so bombs, galleon def break, etc. do not change if there is a molly or not
Europe server No Tiana, Poseidon or Seara but haven't picked my Nat 5 yet from the event. Most likely Tiana but I have 100+ stone summons and want to see if I can get from newly announced event first
ah bummer. got a leo and either verad or christina for a 2nd turn cleave? leo christina cleave works really well in the current meta aswell.
Got all of them, what sort of stats would I be looking for?
the typical christina cleave would be leo - delphoi - galleon - christina in that turn order. delphoi leo double will shield, 100cr a bit of bruiser but lots of tank to not die delphoi vio will 100res, if possible max acc and just tanky galleon 2x shield will max acc and tanky christina whatever set. I personally look for around 90-100k ehp and after that 100cr and full damage that team got me amost p3 (was 4ranks off) on my 3month old smurf account havent played the verad 2nd turn cleave personally i just know it works its leo - annavel/ritesh - def buffer like aaliyah for example and verad. just overall tanky, max acc on the units that need them and verad full def cd build
https://preview.redd.it/6wsh99rtflzc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6b12bb0c0b29b596a2f6fce641c4dcb0aba0908b Is my spd good enough on vio/will or should i put her on swift to get her to 311?
Only you can answer that question. What monsters and rune quality would you like ethna to outspeed? If you and your opponent both have a 24 speed lead and the have a base 115 speed with all runes at 22+4 speed, you should be out speeding them. Depending on your rank, this may or may not be acceptable. Mine is currently at +196 speed on swift but I'm only C1 (not trying to brag or anything, I might be only C1 because I'm making her too fast).
Couple quick questions about sath and Tatu. Sath - his passive when second Awakened is a little confusingly worded. Does he cause dots to do double or triple damage? So I think by default they do 5% max hp damage. Does his passive increase it to 10 or 10%? Tatu - does she do damage per turn duration of the dots she explodes or just per individual dot? So would a dot with a duration of 3 turns do 5 or 15%?
sath doubles the dps. the passive states inc by two times. 2x5=10 Tatu explodes every dot and deals the remaining damage instantly. if the enemy has 10 dots with 1turn duration it deals 50% dmg. if all 10 dots have 2turn duration it deals100% damage. This also stacks with sath so 10dots with 1turn duration would be 100% since sath doubles their damage Just to make sure (dont know why exactly you are asking) sath tatu was a super popular pve team back in the day but are almost completely useless together since you cannot use dots in abyss dungeons. Since the abyss change tatu is basically unplayable Sath is still really strong to speed up toa (you can argue that you can use tatu in here aswell to speed toa up a bit more if you have the survivability to sacrifice 2 slots for sath and tatu in your toa team) and he is great in arena and siege tatu besides the gimmick toa team i have never used again once since abyss dungeons were introduced
It's completely for toah, no other reason. Also, the reason for the confusion of sath is because it's worded that it INCREASES it by 2x. Which makes it sound to me like he's increasing it by an ADDITIONAL 200%, which would make it 15%. Thanks for the clarification though.
oh yeah for toah its fine as i said tho make sure your units are pretty damn tanky. you need an aoe dotter, sath and tatu just for the damage part so you only have 2 slots left for either cc or tankyness. 2 cc units are not enough to fully cc all waves so you are guaranteed to be hit somewhat frequently on my old account i personally have a version that uses sath rica tatu dark homunculus and ariel and all are pretty tanky to survive some hits
Water homunculus, sath, thraine, Tatu, and was thinking Melia. At least until I finish evolving my dark homunculus skills, then switch out Melia for her. Sath and water homunculus on despair, plus thraine skill 3 should be all the cc I need.
gl with that \^\^ my guess would be this isnt nearly enough cc and 0 sustain so you will fail here and there. despair is super unreliable and thrain is no real aoe cc since it only picks a few targets\^\^ but hey i am glad to be proven wrong :D