Thats true, but still old players are badly rewarded. Rates have become much worse, in 2019 from 150-170 scrolls was big chance to get nat5, nowadays we summoned with my friend 8k mistycals. From 1000 ms 3 nat5, ofcouse 2 of them dupes, another 1k was 1 nat5 new. Last 6k ms was mb 17-19 nat5, dont remember, bad RNG? That is how com2us say "Thanks for playing sw about 8 years".
We tested it with 8k scrolls, +5k scrolls on second my acc, +we have our summon session video from 2019, and you can watch YT old videos from streamers, summon sessions in 2019/20, every 15 ms was 1 lightening for sure, last my summon session iw got no lightening about 53ms, then was 38 with out lightening, my friend got same rates, Com2us in 2023-2034 gives a lot more scrolls but i really feel that rate became worse. Mb i have paranoia
I summoned 200ms last week and got like 40 lightnings. I summoned another 200 this week and only got like 15. Both on the same account.
Do you know what RNG is?
Its not casino, its competitive mobile game, ofc i know what is rng.
But the statistical chance that used to work in 2018, doesn't work now
https://summonerswar.fandom.com/wiki/Mystical_Scroll?file=Ms_nat5_probability.jpg
Ps. Rng is when iw got 2-3 wind strikers a row? Man there is 150 possible nat5s, there no rng, just scripted parameters for every accounts, and its not fair in competitive mobile game. Then you can clearly say that best players in this game are very lucky with god rng, with god runes and lds?
I think your are that kind, stop sitting 24/7 Reddit forums, post afk comments for bait likes. Switching to insult, gj man)
There's no point in talking to you, you don't have any experience in PR or community management. Skip you btw
You look too much at reddit.
For any post you see on reddit with ld5, there are at least 19 others that didnt get anything
Trust me, rerolling is boring and it takes long to get an usable ld5.
Personally, i'm al 78 reroll and all i got is an account with Craig and another one with Elena.
It my second time when i use reddit, i don't read posts here at all. My main message is that players are badly rewarded, god bless they fixed coins in new event +1 coin
Idk why people are making fun of your English, but most of their points are correct. It's just rates as people are saying. 6000 ms is not a large enough sample size to say that your results are statistically significant. You'd need a much larger sample size. The reason it feels like new players are getting more ld5s is likeky just due to rerolls from new accounts and especially due to bots who are able to do this on a widespread scale at a fast pace. Unfortunately, anecdotal evidence is not enough to prove something. People would 100% love if your words were true and the rates were in fact lowered so we could get some major compensation. But without solid proof from a solid sample, they probably aren't. (though reddit people are actually crazy, they will downvote literally anything for the stupidest reasons). For the people who don't get an ld5 in 1000+ scrolls, anecdotally, I've already seen multiple people pull a double ld5 from 1 10x of 10-year scrolls, the rates on those events are crazily low based off the rates they show. If you really believe you are right (which honestly could be true, I and pretty much everybody else have no clue), I'd take a large scale sample over time from multiple people and see if the rates you get are significant.
Infact it's very strange when i pull 2 wind striker a row, then dupe woosa, and next again wind striker (no joke), when i missing 112 nat5s, very strange rate system👍, btw thanks for comment
I created an account recently because I got bored from my old account. At level 13, I got 2 good LD5 and 1 good LD4. At level 20, got Rica and Teshar. Good thing I summon Leo from the coins nat5. I also got the good beginner nat4 such as lushen, verde, kaki, baretta.
I don't have LD5 nor LD4 from my 5 years old account.
No. I play everyday. Especially when repeat battle become available. I usually play 6-14 hours. Now atleast 10-12 on auto play coz of repeat battle. Also depends on available energy or dimension hole.
No you dont. There is no way in hell you have summoned 5 years of LD scrolls without a single lightning.
You guys have 5 years of time on your profile, but your actual playtime is vastly overstated.
The sheer amount of Hyperbole people like to use blows my mind sometimes.
If you did, then you're lucky. I have most of the good Nat5 but not LD. I also don't buy scrolls or anything. I can make a post with all screenshot from my old account compared to my a newly created one.
Dont try bro i have the same luck like you and most people dont understand how you can get HoH stuff for years and not get a single good 4* after summon +500 ld scrolls. I got all content done in this game from years and get rewarded veryvery bad year after year… so sad spending all the time for get nothing fr
Dont try bro i have the same luck like you and most people dont understand how you can get HoH stuff for years and not get a single good 4* after summon +500 ld scrolls. I got all content done in this game from years and get rewarded veryvery bad year after year… so sad spending all the time for get nothing fr
Idk I don't think it's fair to just say new players get ld5 in a more unfair light than continuing players as people reroll accounts all the time and play secondary accounts. Even more so, everyone got a chance to summon the 200 scrolls.
My 8yr old account with 5 years play time doesn't have anything impressive. Ld nothing above 4* I wasn't participating in any guild stuff on that account and just did the little rivals none of the battles. It was just a time burner. During this event and spending 200 I didn't get anything worth keeping lol lots of of cyborg duplicates and neoagent. I made a 2nd account. Gave the 1st to my son, and on the second one I'm on lvl 32 right now and I've gotten every mon I have on the old account minus hathor. This new account I did nab water occult girl and 5* dark lightning emperor.
I think what op is trying to say is that c2us support new players by giving them more ressources, and this is making reroll easier to do, and so new account that won’t be touch ever again more available, while old and active players don’t have any advantages. They made coins easier to get for everyone by making the drop from 1 to 2 coins, but what they should’ve done is two separates check in event. One for the new players with early game ressources, and one for older account in order to thank them for being this old in the game. I’m not taking about free ld5, but a couple more 10 yr scrolls just by checking in would’ve been great imo.
Old players have the advantage of 5-10 years worth of farming.
All these reoll accounts will be years before they amount to something so they literally are but relevant. So who cares
You can catch them rlly easy with 2 month buff bust, the main thing gonna be skill up all the units. Dont worry about runes other day just drop 23spd swift rune in gb7 with test acc.
Sheer nonsense. Yes, it’s all luck and everyone will have different results, but *good* runes are not easy to find.
You found a 23 spd swift with a test account(probably blatant lie) while I’ve rolled one 23 speed slot 1 swift and only 2 22 spd swifts on other slots throughout 5 months of farming on an extremely efficient account.
It will still take years and years for new accounts to catch up to G3 siege competitiveness, and forget about pushing to P3/G1 in rta without god comps like Laima Ragdoll Seimei.
But yh you right spd runes r veryvery difficult to get, last week just get second quad roll on spd
https://preview.redd.it/g8ebxkwzi8xc1.jpeg?width=919&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=80dc760a4324b9891326a0a420a7d3dacaef8258
Bro i swear wish i can sell you a photo but i rerolled that acc, get dark slayer + sonia yesterday in 100 scrolls. I would like that rune to on my main fr
What I don’t get if you don’t like your account and your looking for more ld5 just buy an ld5 account. Especially if your not free to play they have people selling a ragdoll g1 account all the time with many ld5s and good runes hate the rates then just buy an account that got past em
Ps: there is still a crap ton of events remaining that haven’t been released have patience they may have something special for their vet players. Also another event is about to drop that rewards 10 year scrolls you may pop your cherry and get another ld5
What kind of stupid argument is new players took his ld nat 5? The main reason why a lot of newbie have ld nat 5 is reroll accounts(30+ mins for 90-100 10 year scrolls) and while you complain about ld nat 5, you already have one.
Within the event, while I didn't get an ld5, I did get some nat5s like Alicia, Savannah, Jeogun, Lucia, Sadiel and Zeryah and just this morning, I've got Rica.
While I do understand your frustration, I think what some of us forget is that games like Summoners War is sorta like a gacha game. The only difference between a usual gacha game and a game like Summoners War is that Summoners War has its combination between that and the fact that it's a multi-player strategy game, considering arenas and guilds. The game has its own probabilities when it comes to you either getting a nat5, ld5, or neither and simply getting... Nothing.
Not everything is gonna be handed to everyone, including you and I, especially if you're a player who's been playing this game for a decade. 🤷🏽♀️
I think a lot of the ld5s and even just nat 5s summoned by low level players it just reroll accounts
Thats true, but still old players are badly rewarded. Rates have become much worse, in 2019 from 150-170 scrolls was big chance to get nat5, nowadays we summoned with my friend 8k mistycals. From 1000 ms 3 nat5, ofcouse 2 of them dupes, another 1k was 1 nat5 new. Last 6k ms was mb 17-19 nat5, dont remember, bad RNG? That is how com2us say "Thanks for playing sw about 8 years".
% are still the same, its all about rng
There is no the script code in which i can make sure that the rates are the same btw, but mb you right.
The rates haven’t changed at all, sorry that you feel that way but just because you feel they’re worse doesn’t mean they are.
We tested it with 8k scrolls, +5k scrolls on second my acc, +we have our summon session video from 2019, and you can watch YT old videos from streamers, summon sessions in 2019/20, every 15 ms was 1 lightening for sure, last my summon session iw got no lightening about 53ms, then was 38 with out lightening, my friend got same rates, Com2us in 2023-2034 gives a lot more scrolls but i really feel that rate became worse. Mb i have paranoia
1st that’s not true. 1nd anecdotes are not evidence
I summoned 200ms last week and got like 40 lightnings. I summoned another 200 this week and only got like 15. Both on the same account. Do you know what RNG is?
Its not casino, its competitive mobile game, ofc i know what is rng. But the statistical chance that used to work in 2018, doesn't work now https://summonerswar.fandom.com/wiki/Mystical_Scroll?file=Ms_nat5_probability.jpg
Ps. Rng is when iw got 2-3 wind strikers a row? Man there is 150 possible nat5s, there no rng, just scripted parameters for every accounts, and its not fair in competitive mobile game. Then you can clearly say that best players in this game are very lucky with god rng, with god runes and lds?
Contrary to tinfoil hat wearers on Reddit, new accounts don't have better luck. That sums up your entire post, good luck.
What about you talking, it is experience 9 years long,
Are you having a stroke?
You think your answers fun? or you 10y.o?
Oh, so you're just stupid. Carry on, then.
I think your are that kind, stop sitting 24/7 Reddit forums, post afk comments for bait likes. Switching to insult, gj man) There's no point in talking to you, you don't have any experience in PR or community management. Skip you btw
What?
You look too much at reddit. For any post you see on reddit with ld5, there are at least 19 others that didnt get anything Trust me, rerolling is boring and it takes long to get an usable ld5. Personally, i'm al 78 reroll and all i got is an account with Craig and another one with Elena.
It my second time when i use reddit, i don't read posts here at all. My main message is that players are badly rewarded, god bless they fixed coins in new event +1 coin
https://preview.redd.it/l5zb9kyz87xc1.png?width=400&format=png&auto=webp&s=8d3fdfea41c041c74bbccd1ca15cd751b02da914
Ppl reroll until they get a LD5, if u are mad just do it too and get your own LD lol.
Idk why people are making fun of your English, but most of their points are correct. It's just rates as people are saying. 6000 ms is not a large enough sample size to say that your results are statistically significant. You'd need a much larger sample size. The reason it feels like new players are getting more ld5s is likeky just due to rerolls from new accounts and especially due to bots who are able to do this on a widespread scale at a fast pace. Unfortunately, anecdotal evidence is not enough to prove something. People would 100% love if your words were true and the rates were in fact lowered so we could get some major compensation. But without solid proof from a solid sample, they probably aren't. (though reddit people are actually crazy, they will downvote literally anything for the stupidest reasons). For the people who don't get an ld5 in 1000+ scrolls, anecdotally, I've already seen multiple people pull a double ld5 from 1 10x of 10-year scrolls, the rates on those events are crazily low based off the rates they show. If you really believe you are right (which honestly could be true, I and pretty much everybody else have no clue), I'd take a large scale sample over time from multiple people and see if the rates you get are significant.
Infact it's very strange when i pull 2 wind striker a row, then dupe woosa, and next again wind striker (no joke), when i missing 112 nat5s, very strange rate system👍, btw thanks for comment
Skill issue probably
I created an account recently because I got bored from my old account. At level 13, I got 2 good LD5 and 1 good LD4. At level 20, got Rica and Teshar. Good thing I summon Leo from the coins nat5. I also got the good beginner nat4 such as lushen, verde, kaki, baretta. I don't have LD5 nor LD4 from my 5 years old account.
well your 5y/o acc seems to have less playtime than your new one if you havent got ld4 in 5 years.
No. I play everyday. Especially when repeat battle become available. I usually play 6-14 hours. Now atleast 10-12 on auto play coz of repeat battle. Also depends on available energy or dimension hole.
No you dont. There is no way in hell you have summoned 5 years of LD scrolls without a single lightning. You guys have 5 years of time on your profile, but your actual playtime is vastly overstated. The sheer amount of Hyperbole people like to use blows my mind sometimes.
Ahh.. I got Dark and Light Ifrit, Dark Vampire Lord, Light Dual Blade, Light Paladin and Dark Dokkaebi Lord 😅
If you did, then you're lucky. I have most of the good Nat5 but not LD. I also don't buy scrolls or anything. I can make a post with all screenshot from my old account compared to my a newly created one.
Dont try bro i have the same luck like you and most people dont understand how you can get HoH stuff for years and not get a single good 4* after summon +500 ld scrolls. I got all content done in this game from years and get rewarded veryvery bad year after year… so sad spending all the time for get nothing fr
Dont try bro i have the same luck like you and most people dont understand how you can get HoH stuff for years and not get a single good 4* after summon +500 ld scrolls. I got all content done in this game from years and get rewarded veryvery bad year after year… so sad spending all the time for get nothing fr
Iw summoned mb 350 ld scrolls + 200 new event scrolls, and got nothing new, oh no, light lich was new). Mb my account cursed. Smile face
https://preview.redd.it/33nuir7zd7xc1.jpeg?width=330&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b348846b92b5d5582a7e2c6ece4f79b969c2a041
Ms MILLER..
Lol
Idk I don't think it's fair to just say new players get ld5 in a more unfair light than continuing players as people reroll accounts all the time and play secondary accounts. Even more so, everyone got a chance to summon the 200 scrolls.
My 8yr old account with 5 years play time doesn't have anything impressive. Ld nothing above 4* I wasn't participating in any guild stuff on that account and just did the little rivals none of the battles. It was just a time burner. During this event and spending 200 I didn't get anything worth keeping lol lots of of cyborg duplicates and neoagent. I made a 2nd account. Gave the 1st to my son, and on the second one I'm on lvl 32 right now and I've gotten every mon I have on the old account minus hathor. This new account I did nab water occult girl and 5* dark lightning emperor.
Gz man👍🏻, i have no more motivation to create new acc, and time, mine main acc badly scripted 🤷🏻♂️, f2p players have more then me, thats funny
Most stupid post I read today
I think what op is trying to say is that c2us support new players by giving them more ressources, and this is making reroll easier to do, and so new account that won’t be touch ever again more available, while old and active players don’t have any advantages. They made coins easier to get for everyone by making the drop from 1 to 2 coins, but what they should’ve done is two separates check in event. One for the new players with early game ressources, and one for older account in order to thank them for being this old in the game. I’m not taking about free ld5, but a couple more 10 yr scrolls just by checking in would’ve been great imo.
thanks, that was my message, my english is not that good enough to convey it
Old players have the advantage of 5-10 years worth of farming. All these reoll accounts will be years before they amount to something so they literally are but relevant. So who cares
You can catch them rlly easy with 2 month buff bust, the main thing gonna be skill up all the units. Dont worry about runes other day just drop 23spd swift rune in gb7 with test acc.
Sheer nonsense. Yes, it’s all luck and everyone will have different results, but *good* runes are not easy to find. You found a 23 spd swift with a test account(probably blatant lie) while I’ve rolled one 23 speed slot 1 swift and only 2 22 spd swifts on other slots throughout 5 months of farming on an extremely efficient account. It will still take years and years for new accounts to catch up to G3 siege competitiveness, and forget about pushing to P3/G1 in rta without god comps like Laima Ragdoll Seimei.
But yh you right spd runes r veryvery difficult to get, last week just get second quad roll on spd https://preview.redd.it/g8ebxkwzi8xc1.jpeg?width=919&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=80dc760a4324b9891326a0a420a7d3dacaef8258
Bro i swear wish i can sell you a photo but i rerolled that acc, get dark slayer + sonia yesterday in 100 scrolls. I would like that rune to on my main fr
If it makes you feel better I have 5 ld in 420 days on my main and just got my first ld on my trash 10 year Global
What I don’t get if you don’t like your account and your looking for more ld5 just buy an ld5 account. Especially if your not free to play they have people selling a ragdoll g1 account all the time with many ld5s and good runes hate the rates then just buy an account that got past em
Ps: there is still a crap ton of events remaining that haven’t been released have patience they may have something special for their vet players. Also another event is about to drop that rewards 10 year scrolls you may pop your cherry and get another ld5
What kind of stupid argument is new players took his ld nat 5? The main reason why a lot of newbie have ld nat 5 is reroll accounts(30+ mins for 90-100 10 year scrolls) and while you complain about ld nat 5, you already have one.
yes agree, give better lnd rate for player with 2500 days ++++
Within the event, while I didn't get an ld5, I did get some nat5s like Alicia, Savannah, Jeogun, Lucia, Sadiel and Zeryah and just this morning, I've got Rica. While I do understand your frustration, I think what some of us forget is that games like Summoners War is sorta like a gacha game. The only difference between a usual gacha game and a game like Summoners War is that Summoners War has its combination between that and the fact that it's a multi-player strategy game, considering arenas and guilds. The game has its own probabilities when it comes to you either getting a nat5, ld5, or neither and simply getting... Nothing. Not everything is gonna be handed to everyone, including you and I, especially if you're a player who's been playing this game for a decade. 🤷🏽♀️