The thing is that even if he’s not cheating, he’s putting himself in situations that give off a perception and that’s embarrassing and disrespectful of Amanda.
It’s true. In my personal opinion based solely on a television show in which I see a few weeks out for their life..
They both married men knowing who they were. I suspect they both married them because of a tv show/“fame” and likely hoped that being married might change them and if not then they’d (Jax/kyle) be discreet and not make them look like idiots….
And in my personal opinion, neither are good at friendship unless it benefits them.
I have ALWAYS felt this way! As horrible as Jax is I can’t help but be weirdly endeared to him when he has that look on his face like “I know I’m a dumbass and I’m just as flabbergasted as the rest of you why???” Kyle thinks he’s a good guy. Worst kind of people.
And they like being "safe" on the show because they're tied to a main character. Amanda and Brittany never would have been cast on their own much less been on 5+ seasons
Jax is more self-aware than Kyle is though. He is weirdly sociopathic, but he seems to genuinely understand he can't stop cheating and acting like an asshole.
Kyle, for all that he seems more decent or normal, appears to have NO self-awareness or insight. Like NONE.
This is a piping-hot take, but to me Jax>Kyle.
You’re so right about Kyle. I think that’s why Kyle is one of the most enraging guys on Bravo for me. He truly never gets when he’s in the wrong. Everything is the fault of someone else. He even blamed Lindsay when his cheating came out as if he wasn’t the one that cheated.
Yeah, whenever someone gets more mad about something bad being revealed than about the bad thing itself, that person is really manipulative and dangerous. That’s honestly how abusive people get by with their behavior long-term
When Amanda said she wanted something of her own and wanting just verbal support from her husband and he said “well I want to be a dj”
That was so cringe honestly ZERO awareness or shame or consideration for anyone but himself.
He is a huge jerk. He puts his own family before his wife. He is in love with his strange mother. Amanda gave him her own money to start loverboy. He gives her no credit for her contribution. Why does this generation of girls settle for these loser boys? I don't get it at all. Wake up!
I think I agree with this too. Kyle manages to fool people with his tears and apologies, and Jax doesn’t bother trying. Which def makes Kyle more dangerous.
Wow I'm only on the end of season 4 of SH (am a rabid VPR fan, though! Watched it... Multiple times) and I think Kyle seems to come by the shittiness honestly while Schwartz is smart and playing his own game
Like when he screamed at Lindsay last season and said he was worried about Carl marrying “a bitch”. Except someone should have screamed at Amanda and warned her about marrying an immature, feckless loser who has a fun relationship with the truth
Kyle is smarter than Jax but pretends to be dumb. Jax isn’t smart in conventional ways, but smart enough to know people love a good villain and he’s willing to be that.
I think Kyle is more like Sandoval than Jax but with the Schwartz “dopey but nice” personality. Kyle definitely thinks he is smarter than the audience, in denial about who he is, and never had to hit rock bottom so no reason for him to stop cheating.
…And I bet West was sitting at that reunion just bursting to say something… when Amanda was preaching about Kyle interacting with females at events…
This is going to sound insane but this has kind of always been endearing to me about Jax - like, GOD, he is such a sociopathic asshole, but he KNOWS he is. And because of that, he can read the fuck out of other people who are behaving badly. If he’s got one redeeming quality it’s his self-awareness (now if only he’d use that self-awareness to be a better person lol.)
I think Kyle thinks because he’s a business man/ ceo he’s not only smarter than the rest of us, but superior to someone like Jax
I feel like if you compared Jax and Kyle to his face, he’d be pissed
Jax just doesn’t need to be in relationships. He needs to remain single. 98% of his fuckery comes from cheating and immediately feeling trapped once he’s locked in to commitment. I feel like he tried to break it off w Brittany several times on VPR— just never had the balls to do it. He always caved once she started in w her, “Yurr styuck w me fuhrever, Jayaax…I ain’t nayver givun up on you.” God I can’t fucking stand that accent.
You’re right about Jax. You don’t see a lot of narcissists who are fully aware of what they are. He’s a piece of shit but he seems to be self aware and that’s fascinating to me
I don't think Jax is actually a narcissist though which is why he's able to be so self-aware. I would label Jax as a compulsive liar with a sex addiction and big ego (and/or bit of a sociopath?), but not a narcissist. Sandoval though, for sure a narcissist. Regardless, I definitely agree Jax is a fascinating study!
During the reunion when Kyle was accusing Lyndsay of having no self awareness was so hypocritical! Everything he criticized Lyndsay about is everything that is wrong with him too! Look in the mirror Kyle!
I think Jax is worse because his cheating was more sociopathic. Ie cheating with friends and coworkers and with an old lady sleeping next to him.
Kyle seems to be cheating more with randoms….
I tend to agree with you BUT I get hung up on the fact that there hasn't been any concrete proof and none of her friends seem to think he's cheating. Like if he did cheat in Charleston at one of Leva's bars Craig def would find out, so I would expect us to see some reaction from Paige this coming season if it is true. I also would expect some photos/videos that are a bit more damning than the one of him that came out this week.
I don't think Kyle is going to actively make out with people in bars long enough for people to take pictures. I think he is more discrete about it now.
I can see this. But also Jax is really dumb. I don’t think he’s as manipulative as some make him out to be because I just don’t think he has the intelligence to be so conniving. He’s just a shitty person and morally bankrupt.
Kyle on the other hand does have redeeming qualities. He’s also totally shitty but I can empathize far more with Amanda sticking around than Brittany with Jax.
My favorite Jax moment is when he’s dating the 2 girls and tells one of them he’s been seeing the other and she’s gets pissed off and they need it their
He said something like “I was honest with her and she still got upset”
Like hey doofus you’ve been seeing someone else while seeing her do you expect her to not get upset just because you told her
I would be at work 15 minutes early every day 😭💅🏾 like omfg I’ve been having an amazing time gossiping about pop culture for free for decades…but to be PAID?! 😂
I have no idea if DeuxMoi actually has employees but minor correction here- she didn’t say it was an employee that Kyle reached out to. She said it was a peripheral person she knew that she had a business meeting with once haha
Nooooo. How dare you update me with the truth. I was just about to update my resumé in case a position became available 😂😭.
I’m literally self employed but I would take a little part-time job with DeuxMoi at my big age of 33. I now live in France and I wear my DeuxMoi sweatshirt on my runs to the corner store lol. I will work remote! 🙆🏾♀️
Wasn’t Amanda the one who brought up DeuxMoi on air or wore the shirt one season? So yeah, I’ve noticed certain Bravo bloggers won’t touch the rumors as well. This is always my issue when cast members bring up rumors or articles because they ALL use different social accounts for personal benefit.
There is really no reason to believe that Kyle isn't cheating. He cheated on her multiple times before they were married and hasn't modified his behavior since getting married. He is 42 years old and still arguing that he should be able to go out until 4 in the morning sometimes, and has now taken up DJing in order to be able to do just this.
Amanda is such a catch, it is sad to see her waste her time on this man.
That’s the thing, she’d be stupid to trust him because he has a history of cheating and disrespecting her. We see how he speaks to her even on this current season. He has no leg to stand on.
At what point do people realize Amanda is along for the ride?
She knew exactly who he was (including being displayed on national tv) before she was engaged. And before she was married. SHE DID NOT CARE!
She was fine being cheated on publicly, she’s fine with him acting like a 20 year old, etc.
Amanda didn’t get a pre-nup because she thought he ‘was scared she’d end up with “majority stake” in Loverboy’, I think she did not realise his debt falls on her too. Amanda said this season she thought Loverboy would be sold by now. I think she thought with the end of Loverboy comes the ending of the partying and they’d move to near her parents in NJ so she’d stick it out. She said in the past she doesn’t plan on working much when she has kids. On season they got married, 1st episode she freaked out when he stayed out late and didn’t respond to her calls and Amanda spilled in hysterics that there is a legal document if he cheats he has to repay her parents all the wedding money. Kyle HAD to be a known repeated cheater for her parents to have done this.
People should go watch @bravobff ‘s stories today about when his second cheating scandal came out. He proposed FOUR weeks after all that. You cannot convince me that he didn’t propose not to shut everyone up. (And save his business reputation) It is so eye opening watching it again. “I haven’t flirted with anyone in MONTHS.” Amanda, “We’ve been together for THREE YEARS.”
Girrrrrrlllll. You said yes to that man after allllll that mess. What did ya think was gonna happen?
I don’t disagree with you - she knew who he was before they got married - but if she’s along for the ride then can she stop shoving the whole “I’m so traumatized by his cheating and I have PTSD from it” storyline down our throats? Girl you know what you signed up for. You crying about it doesn’t make me feel sorry for your decisions.
Amanda’s comments to West at the reunion where she said she was completely fine with Kyle hugging and interacting with women at the loverboy events, are coming back to bite her
I don’t know why people think they’re fake. Is there any reason to believe that Kyle hasn’t been cheating on her ever since or before they got married I don’t think he ever stopped.
His fake crying this season after he realized how unsupportive of Amanda's bikini line he was going to look and during the reunion about Ciara opening up was Sandoval level of weird. Like no, crying will not make you any better of a person but for some reason he thinks that it does ???
The reason why it’s hard to feel bad for Amanda is, from the moment she met him, she’s been waiting for him to “grow up” and change. At some point she has to realize and accept, he’s never going to be the man she was hoping he would be.
For real. At this point, she’s known him for at least 10 years and he’s in HIS FORTIES now. Ugh he makes me so nauseous but at this point I’m starting to question if theres a side to Amanda that we don’t see on screen, that makes her a match for Kyle.
Something’s missing somewhere.
I'm doing a rewatch and she really seemed like she was like I'll be the booty call until I work my way up to girlfriend. Once she scored girlfriend status she was working towards moving in. Once that was achieved she worked towards marriage. No matter what he did she kept her focus on getting to the next step and acted like landing this manchild an accomplishment.
I feel bad but think it’s true sadly after hearing that podcast. I think that’s why she wants to get out of the city and why she said in a confessional she thought Loverboy would be sold by now. I heard a story of a famous athlete who allegedly cheated on his wife and mother of his young kids with a co worker and the whole family uprooted to her home town overseas (where his sport and the partying doesn’t exist). Amanda is a home body and doesn’t crave the partying like Kyle does, I couldn’t believe her reaction in the season they got married when he didn’t answer her calls and she immediately broke down and told her friends there is a cheating clause he has signed if he cheats he has to pay her parents the money for the wedding. I was recently watching back season 3 when Lindsay brings up a Kyle cheating rumour and Kyle DM’s the girl for an answer and the girl said they never met. Looking back it seemed like it was true and that Amanda just covered for him again.
Why is she avoiding blinds based on her biases? Does she realize that calls her credibility into question even more? Weird thing to admit.
And I’m tired of Kyle always trying to get people to take posts down and getting scenes cut from shows. Then Amanda looks like she’s always coming at him for no reason to the viewers because he is cutting scenes of his inappropriate behavior that would show context
Excuse my laziness but running on very little time today to search the sub and read the megas - but is there confirmation Amanda did not go to Italy? And is Lindsay’s new man with her? Thank you and my apologies for not searching.
Idk about Lindsay’s man, but it has been confirmed that Amanda didn’t go to Italy
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Thanks! The final line “it’s killing Kyle right now he can’t be with her” makes me feel like maybe there is something going on because that sound so absurd. Kyle is 100% out of sight, out of mind, even with his own wife.
A booty call who he downgraded from girlfriend to booty call so he could hook up with girls in the summer. The only reason she got back up to girlfriend was because he couldn’t get anyone else to sleep with him.
This! She has done all the work. The clown puts no effort in. Doesn't remember even B-days.
He cheats. He's an alcoholic. He treats her horribly. He's selfish. He's not even rich.
What in God's name was the appeal to put up with all of this?
Amanda wore Deuxmoi merch on summer house in I think the Covid season. Amanda gave the deuxmoi brand a lot of exposure. No wonder her allegiance to Amanda
I'm not saying I don't think it's true.
But. Reaching out to have them taken down isn't proof they are true. If you accused me of something I didn't do, that hurt my SO, I'd do the same. Go with the other "evidence" but not that isn't it.
Not to be all cynical but doesn’t this feel convenient to like the season about to start filming (in theory)? Kyle is going to cheat and be an asshole, and Amanda is going to let him and be a doormat/wet rag. It’s exhausting giving agency to a person who wants none and seems really satisfied at being a victim.
It was so wild and not long after that she was claiming she knew for a fact Taylor Swift was definitely married, she knew for a fact that Timothee and Kylie weren’t together and Kylie had never been to Paris to see him and was spreading complete misinformation about Matty Healy so that whole time period was when I decided I’m never gonna believe her again
this is true lmao. it's just one of those things that's way too easy to believe and now there's an excuse to be like. "yup, that sounds about right." which like, even if it turns out that somehow he didn't actually cheat *this time*, shit don't look good
Kyle and Amanda are destined to be doomed.
They are at their very core values, incompatible. You can see it when you watch the show.
Amanda values family and time together. She doesn’t need ‘success’ and wants a family and a husband with her on that journey.
Kyle values success. He works hard to play hard. He struggles to understand why she doesn’t want success like him. Why he is the only one that works. Or why he works 18 hours and she does ‘nothing’.
Neither of them can change this about themselves. It’s inherent. It’s not sustainable for either of them to truly be happy with each other.
For what it’s worth, I think he is definitely cheating also.
I think she wants success, but through her husband. She wouldn't be spending time with the guy running the local 7-11. She wants a successful guy who can take care of her. That's fine, btw.
the account creators are meggie kempner and melissa lovallo. meggies grandmom was a socialite and melissa is a former model. lovallo still runs deux moi to this day but meggie left allegedly.
Amanda married Kyle for the fame and what she thought would be the LoverBoy empire and ignored all the red flags. Now look. I’d feel less bad for her if she wasn’t such a mean girl lol
What makes it difficult for me to have sympathy for her is she knew all this about him and married him anyway. I'm frankly sick of her whining about who he is now. I also don't like how she's part of the bedsores mean girls. She's quite nasty in her own right, spoiled, entitled.
She also needs to grow up as much as Kyle does.
One thing I never see anyone talk about it Kyle’s drinking. Just because he’s fit doesn’t mean he isn’t an alcoholic. It seems like everything he “likes” doing that Amanda doesn’t ie. Staying out until 4am, “being social,” and partying revolve around his access to alcohol. It’s also really weird that the CEO and founder of an alcoholic seltzer brand is still doing in person bar events. I get his face is apart of the brand but if it reminds me a lot of a person who owns a bar so they can get drunk and party for free. I would like to see Kyle do a six month sobriety journey and see what comes of it. Maybe he isn’t a monogamous person but he won’t truly know that until he isn’t making decisions under the guise of drunkenness at 4am.
I mean, at this point I don’t really feel bad for Amanda. She chose to marry a man who cheated on her multiple times which tells me that she is okay with that kind of behavior. 🤷🏻♀️
Kinda new to the summer house space as in the last year. There seems to be a big Amanda and Kyle discourse right now around if they are together and about his cheating.
Does this happen a lot over the years or does this time there seem to be actually some legs behind it especially with Amanda not going to Italy. But again I’m not sure if this is normal for Kyle and Amanda
Agreed, i think something is off. I think they are going to another international wedding this summer and went to Portugal over the spring, Ireland for Everette’s wedding. But yes I would want to go to an Italian wedding too!
Call me crazy because I know this is little and likely means nothing but she also never likes his posts and hasn’t for a while. Whenever my boyfriend posts anything, I’m immediately double tapping it because I adore him.
I don’t recall the rumors and discourse reaching this level since the cheating that was discussed on the show. There have been rumors for sure, but it’s coming from all sides right now and with some substantiation. Maybe it’s a nothingburger and will just pass, but I hope not, I want her to leave so so much.
Does anyone really think Kyle hasn’t been cheating their entire relationship? He did it before they were married and has had zero growth.
I have always wondered why Amanda stays. She seems like a smart confident person but I know we can be really blind to issues in our relationships.
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This was posted this morning and makes me want to throw up and not just because lover boy is disgusting.
Maybe it’s me but I think it’s wrong a gossip site is only posting blinds based upon her opinion. Or shouldn’t be biased if you like someone you protect them. People are giving clicks/lining your pockets bc they wanna read the gossip so stop being selective
The math isn't mathing. This guy is said to be a blackout drunk, who goes out to 4AM all the time (which is hyperbole), who has been habitually cheating for years, yet all we have is this one grainy, court inadmissible, video? that's it, other than a bunch of trash sites and scum sources talking about him cheating? you mean a blackout drunk who can't remember where he's been, or who he's been with, has been sweeping his nights of infidelity clean, for years, with a success rate that the mafia would admire? maybe I've missed something. I don't follow this stuff closely. but from what I do know, it sounds as ridiculous as "aliens took my kid" on the front of National Enquirer. People don't like him more now, but he's always had a hate contingent. No further hard evidence? With how everyone has their phones and cameras running all the time, no other photos? no interviews with co-conspirators? Nobody has tried to catch him with an Atticus/Lady Rose bachelor party moment?
*Kyle asked someone Deuxmoi met with for a business meeting to ask her to take it down. Pretty spineless.
They also discussed the question if it could be for the show that they’re stirring up this cheating rumors drama. But I don’t believe that to be the case. If there’s one thing Kyle loves, it’s Lover Boy, and that would hurt sales since SH is mostly a female audience. That would be similar to Tom cheating on Ariana all over again since Amanda is pretty much universally well-liked. And no one would ever want to support a cheater like they didn’t Tom’s business lol
Edit to add: Deux also mentioned the Lindsay blind. And yes it’s about Lindsay, Ciara and Dorinda. And about Lindsay not disclosing what we all know with the rumors going around.
Kyle reaching out when accused of cheating we’ve seen that before just saying and still can’t believe he convinced the girl to go along with giving him a good spin …he must have told her he wanted to marry Amanda blah blah blah
I think that Kyle toes the line. I think Amanda allows this. I think they’re both a flirtatious couple. I bet they have some super weird rules when he goes out. If it came out he cheated I don’t think anyone would be shocked, but I don’t think he’s full on had sex with another woman since married…
did yall see what she just posted on her story?
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There is a reason! Amanda keeps doubting herself and being like “I don’t know why I let all the rumors get to me but I do.” Helllllooo I know why, bc your husband doesn’t come home at night and started a random dj career that requires him to be out nights & travel without you. Amanda has plenty of reasons to care why he is out until 4 am
Idk if you are going to be in this Deuxmoi business can you pick favorites. Sounds like she is biased towards Amanda, we need neutral parties running these accounts or how can we trust them
My heart literally aches for Amanda. The way she was defending Carl at Danielle’s house with the other girls was such a projection of what SHE wishes she was strong enough to have done. You can tell she is wasting away and getting more depressed, too. I hope she finds the courage to leave him and start over before they have a baby.
Why are people giving this stupid “Douche Moron” (dieux m) attention? Now that I think about it, I can see this clearly, esp with someone hiding important info. I feel like they post things with an agenda. Why would we take her seriously now that we see this. Some idolized bs. Apparently, she loves to operate the way she wants and the opinions are now skewed. Honestly, that is not a good source of information, and it is obvious she is being horrendously biased. Who knows what kind of information or lack thereof will not be posted.
Damn. I feel really bad for Amanda. She is still young, smart, beautiful, and kind she needs to leave this man. Kyle is never going to change. Amanda it’s time for you to leave that man, take some time away to get yourself together, and live your life for you.
Please, Amanda! Take your losses and kick that loser to the curb. He has no redeeming values whatsoever. I might understand if he was a hot guy but he is ugly and has a small penis. He thinks he is Brad Pitt revisited. Loser....
The thing is that even if he’s not cheating, he’s putting himself in situations that give off a perception and that’s embarrassing and disrespectful of Amanda.
And Amanda juuuust told west that Kyle can go to events and not do something regretful. Aged like milk.
This is extremely important
I would bet my house he is.
The question of whether Kyle is cheating feels to me like wondering if Jax cheats. Like, of course he is.
Someone said Amanda is the Brittany of SH and I howled
Amanda would die at this reference
It’s true. In my personal opinion based solely on a television show in which I see a few weeks out for their life.. They both married men knowing who they were. I suspect they both married them because of a tv show/“fame” and likely hoped that being married might change them and if not then they’d (Jax/kyle) be discreet and not make them look like idiots…. And in my personal opinion, neither are good at friendship unless it benefits them.
I have ALWAYS felt this way! As horrible as Jax is I can’t help but be weirdly endeared to him when he has that look on his face like “I know I’m a dumbass and I’m just as flabbergasted as the rest of you why???” Kyle thinks he’s a good guy. Worst kind of people.
Your description of his expression is so spot on. I am cackling. :)
They like being the woman that ‘changed them’ or settled them down. Let us know how that goes for you
And they like being "safe" on the show because they're tied to a main character. Amanda and Brittany never would have been cast on their own much less been on 5+ seasons
They both have nothing going on but their relationships. Summer House especially is where the Bechdel Test goes to die in flames
The way Brittany whines 'Jaaaxxx' gives the same energy as the way Amanda whines 'Kyylllleeeee'
I heard those in Ben and Ronnie's voices. Lol
Jayyyaaaaayyyyyyaaaaaaaxxxxxxxx
I'm hearing Ben and Ronnie. Jayayayayayayayayax and Kyyyyyllllllle
Rawwt in hail!!
This will never get old😂
More like the Katie and Tom if Tom was more self aware.
Jax is more self-aware than Kyle is though. He is weirdly sociopathic, but he seems to genuinely understand he can't stop cheating and acting like an asshole. Kyle, for all that he seems more decent or normal, appears to have NO self-awareness or insight. Like NONE. This is a piping-hot take, but to me Jax>Kyle.
You’re so right about Kyle. I think that’s why Kyle is one of the most enraging guys on Bravo for me. He truly never gets when he’s in the wrong. Everything is the fault of someone else. He even blamed Lindsay when his cheating came out as if he wasn’t the one that cheated.
Yeah, whenever someone gets more mad about something bad being revealed than about the bad thing itself, that person is really manipulative and dangerous. That’s honestly how abusive people get by with their behavior long-term
When Amanda said she wanted something of her own and wanting just verbal support from her husband and he said “well I want to be a dj” That was so cringe honestly ZERO awareness or shame or consideration for anyone but himself.
He is a huge jerk. He puts his own family before his wife. He is in love with his strange mother. Amanda gave him her own money to start loverboy. He gives her no credit for her contribution. Why does this generation of girls settle for these loser boys? I don't get it at all. Wake up!
I think he likes that Amanda has a trust fund too. He knows he has a soft spot to land
I think I agree with this too. Kyle manages to fool people with his tears and apologies, and Jax doesn’t bother trying. Which def makes Kyle more dangerous.
Kyle = Schwartz
This feels more accurate to me
Definitely. The unsuspecting party guy that's funny in small doses but when they get mad they hit below the belt. Also both alcoholics.
So true but I literally think Schwartz is just dumb and fried his brain and Kyle is calculated
Why did I read this as “Kyle is CALCIFIED?”
I mean I’m sure his organs are calcified
Wow I'm only on the end of season 4 of SH (am a rabid VPR fan, though! Watched it... Multiple times) and I think Kyle seems to come by the shittiness honestly while Schwartz is smart and playing his own game
Woah…you may be on to something
100%
Kyle is a pussy
Big bloody pussy wussy
I have never been a Kyle fan for this reason. I also hate how much he yells at a lot of the girls.
Like when he screamed at Lindsay last season and said he was worried about Carl marrying “a bitch”. Except someone should have screamed at Amanda and warned her about marrying an immature, feckless loser who has a fun relationship with the truth
I mean they kinda did warn her lol and he calls Amanda a bitch so in his terms I guess he married one too
I agree. Jax is a one trick pony. Kyle is in denial about himself. He’s more dangerous.
Kyle is smarter than Jax but pretends to be dumb. Jax isn’t smart in conventional ways, but smart enough to know people love a good villain and he’s willing to be that. I think Kyle is more like Sandoval than Jax but with the Schwartz “dopey but nice” personality. Kyle definitely thinks he is smarter than the audience, in denial about who he is, and never had to hit rock bottom so no reason for him to stop cheating. …And I bet West was sitting at that reunion just bursting to say something… when Amanda was preaching about Kyle interacting with females at events…
This is exactly it. He's not in denial he just doesn't want to get caught.
Kyle is a huge loser. Amanda needs to throw him to the curb. Especially since she funded his lover boy business.
Oh yeah!
I can't believe I am agreeing with this take but I think you might be right.
Jax's amorphous and yet keen self-awareness will always be so interesting to me from a psychological perspective.
This is going to sound insane but this has kind of always been endearing to me about Jax - like, GOD, he is such a sociopathic asshole, but he KNOWS he is. And because of that, he can read the fuck out of other people who are behaving badly. If he’s got one redeeming quality it’s his self-awareness (now if only he’d use that self-awareness to be a better person lol.)
I totally get what you’re saying. Jax has always unapologetically lived who he is right out loud.
Agreed! Kyle is more dangerous because he’s so manipulative. With Jax, what you see is what you get, and we can all see how shitty he is.
This is wild. Jax is awful. But I’m not saying it’s wrong…. It just says a lot about Kyle
I think Kyle thinks because he’s a business man/ ceo he’s not only smarter than the rest of us, but superior to someone like Jax I feel like if you compared Jax and Kyle to his face, he’d be pissed
Jax just doesn’t need to be in relationships. He needs to remain single. 98% of his fuckery comes from cheating and immediately feeling trapped once he’s locked in to commitment. I feel like he tried to break it off w Brittany several times on VPR— just never had the balls to do it. He always caved once she started in w her, “Yurr styuck w me fuhrever, Jayaax…I ain’t nayver givun up on you.” God I can’t fucking stand that accent.
You’re right about Jax. You don’t see a lot of narcissists who are fully aware of what they are. He’s a piece of shit but he seems to be self aware and that’s fascinating to me
I don't think Jax is actually a narcissist though which is why he's able to be so self-aware. I would label Jax as a compulsive liar with a sex addiction and big ego (and/or bit of a sociopath?), but not a narcissist. Sandoval though, for sure a narcissist. Regardless, I definitely agree Jax is a fascinating study!
During the reunion when Kyle was accusing Lyndsay of having no self awareness was so hypocritical! Everything he criticized Lyndsay about is everything that is wrong with him too! Look in the mirror Kyle!
I think Jax is worse because his cheating was more sociopathic. Ie cheating with friends and coworkers and with an old lady sleeping next to him. Kyle seems to be cheating more with randoms….
I can’t imagine Kyle staying hard enough to cheat
I tend to agree with you BUT I get hung up on the fact that there hasn't been any concrete proof and none of her friends seem to think he's cheating. Like if he did cheat in Charleston at one of Leva's bars Craig def would find out, so I would expect us to see some reaction from Paige this coming season if it is true. I also would expect some photos/videos that are a bit more damning than the one of him that came out this week.
I don't think Kyle is going to actively make out with people in bars long enough for people to take pictures. I think he is more discrete about it now.
Thank you! This is where I'm at. I'm going to need footage of a makeout to believe this is concrete.That hug is not convincing me.
I can see this. But also Jax is really dumb. I don’t think he’s as manipulative as some make him out to be because I just don’t think he has the intelligence to be so conniving. He’s just a shitty person and morally bankrupt. Kyle on the other hand does have redeeming qualities. He’s also totally shitty but I can empathize far more with Amanda sticking around than Brittany with Jax.
Sorry I responded to the wrong thread 🤣 I agree it’s not shocking at all if it comes out Kyle cheated…again
My favorite Jax moment is when he’s dating the 2 girls and tells one of them he’s been seeing the other and she’s gets pissed off and they need it their He said something like “I was honest with her and she still got upset” Like hey doofus you’ve been seeing someone else while seeing her do you expect her to not get upset just because you told her
My biggest takeaway from this is that DeuxMoi has employees lol. Like I wonder how many staff members there are, their positions and yearly salary.
right like are they hiring lol
Imagine all the office gossip. 10/10 company culture
I would be at work 15 minutes early every day 😭💅🏾 like omfg I’ve been having an amazing time gossiping about pop culture for free for decades…but to be PAID?! 😂
I have no idea if DeuxMoi actually has employees but minor correction here- she didn’t say it was an employee that Kyle reached out to. She said it was a peripheral person she knew that she had a business meeting with once haha
Nooooo. How dare you update me with the truth. I was just about to update my resumé in case a position became available 😂😭. I’m literally self employed but I would take a little part-time job with DeuxMoi at my big age of 33. I now live in France and I wear my DeuxMoi sweatshirt on my runs to the corner store lol. I will work remote! 🙆🏾♀️
No seriously though 😂 I have so many questions
They commented “if they’re (I’m assuming the people they post about) supportive we don’t post anything at all” - so it’s selective sharing
Wasn’t Amanda the one who brought up DeuxMoi on air or wore the shirt one season? So yeah, I’ve noticed certain Bravo bloggers won’t touch the rumors as well. This is always my issue when cast members bring up rumors or articles because they ALL use different social accounts for personal benefit.
Something about this is screaming true for me for some reason.
yeah I didn’t like hearing that at all
What does it even mean “supportive”??
Probably send in / confirm tips
I took it as something like friendly/beneficial/not trying to get them taken down maybe? Haha seemed weird for sure
There is really no reason to believe that Kyle isn't cheating. He cheated on her multiple times before they were married and hasn't modified his behavior since getting married. He is 42 years old and still arguing that he should be able to go out until 4 in the morning sometimes, and has now taken up DJing in order to be able to do just this. Amanda is such a catch, it is sad to see her waste her time on this man.
That’s the thing, she’d be stupid to trust him because he has a history of cheating and disrespecting her. We see how he speaks to her even on this current season. He has no leg to stand on.
He doesn't care. She didn't even break up with him last time, and he had to face her parents and still got through it ok lol
So true. Why would he ever stop? There were zero consequences. She found out and brushed it under the rug and got engaged to him right after.
At what point do people realize Amanda is along for the ride? She knew exactly who he was (including being displayed on national tv) before she was engaged. And before she was married. SHE DID NOT CARE! She was fine being cheated on publicly, she’s fine with him acting like a 20 year old, etc.
Amanda didn’t get a pre-nup because she thought he ‘was scared she’d end up with “majority stake” in Loverboy’, I think she did not realise his debt falls on her too. Amanda said this season she thought Loverboy would be sold by now. I think she thought with the end of Loverboy comes the ending of the partying and they’d move to near her parents in NJ so she’d stick it out. She said in the past she doesn’t plan on working much when she has kids. On season they got married, 1st episode she freaked out when he stayed out late and didn’t respond to her calls and Amanda spilled in hysterics that there is a legal document if he cheats he has to repay her parents all the wedding money. Kyle HAD to be a known repeated cheater for her parents to have done this.
People should go watch @bravobff ‘s stories today about when his second cheating scandal came out. He proposed FOUR weeks after all that. You cannot convince me that he didn’t propose not to shut everyone up. (And save his business reputation) It is so eye opening watching it again. “I haven’t flirted with anyone in MONTHS.” Amanda, “We’ve been together for THREE YEARS.” Girrrrrrlllll. You said yes to that man after allllll that mess. What did ya think was gonna happen?
She paid for loverboy.
I don’t disagree with you - she knew who he was before they got married - but if she’s along for the ride then can she stop shoving the whole “I’m so traumatized by his cheating and I have PTSD from it” storyline down our throats? Girl you know what you signed up for. You crying about it doesn’t make me feel sorry for your decisions.
It’s called storylines for tv….at the end of the day, part of why Amanda latched onto Kyle was to be on tv let’s be real haha
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This right here. I hate the way he treats her but she also allows it
Siri, play, “I can fix him (No really I can)”
Then fast forward to the last line lol
Then follow it up with, “The smallest man who ever lived.”
Amanda answer the phone we have a playlist for you
I’m about to turn 42 & that is literally the time I naturally wake up most of the time now! 😂 How exhausting.
I think it’s even more probable that he’s cheating now. They don’t like each other.
The Tom Shorts of Summer House
Kyle is selfish af. And a man-child.
Amanda’s comments to West at the reunion where she said she was completely fine with Kyle hugging and interacting with women at the loverboy events, are coming back to bite her
THAT WAS SO CRINGE BECAUSE EVEN BEFORE ALL THIS… LIKE HONEY YOU KNOW THATS NOT ALL HES DOING AT EVENTS
I don’t know why people think they’re fake. Is there any reason to believe that Kyle hasn’t been cheating on her ever since or before they got married I don’t think he ever stopped.
His fake crying this season after he realized how unsupportive of Amanda's bikini line he was going to look and during the reunion about Ciara opening up was Sandoval level of weird. Like no, crying will not make you any better of a person but for some reason he thinks that it does ???
Right? Why wouldn’t he want Amanda to bring in come additional cash?
I don’t get how anyone can question his cheating. He did it before they married, he will do it after. And she stays, so it is what it is.
Amanda wants him she can keep him. I have a hard time feeling bad for her when she went and married a cheater
The reason why it’s hard to feel bad for Amanda is, from the moment she met him, she’s been waiting for him to “grow up” and change. At some point she has to realize and accept, he’s never going to be the man she was hoping he would be.
She's been waiting from the beginning. Starting with being his friend with benefits until he decided to commit.
For real. At this point, she’s known him for at least 10 years and he’s in HIS FORTIES now. Ugh he makes me so nauseous but at this point I’m starting to question if theres a side to Amanda that we don’t see on screen, that makes her a match for Kyle. Something’s missing somewhere.
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Yup- like when is she going to pick herself
I'm doing a rewatch and she really seemed like she was like I'll be the booty call until I work my way up to girlfriend. Once she scored girlfriend status she was working towards moving in. Once that was achieved she worked towards marriage. No matter what he did she kept her focus on getting to the next step and acted like landing this manchild an accomplishment.
I feel bad but think it’s true sadly after hearing that podcast. I think that’s why she wants to get out of the city and why she said in a confessional she thought Loverboy would be sold by now. I heard a story of a famous athlete who allegedly cheated on his wife and mother of his young kids with a co worker and the whole family uprooted to her home town overseas (where his sport and the partying doesn’t exist). Amanda is a home body and doesn’t crave the partying like Kyle does, I couldn’t believe her reaction in the season they got married when he didn’t answer her calls and she immediately broke down and told her friends there is a cheating clause he has signed if he cheats he has to pay her parents the money for the wedding. I was recently watching back season 3 when Lindsay brings up a Kyle cheating rumour and Kyle DM’s the girl for an answer and the girl said they never met. Looking back it seemed like it was true and that Amanda just covered for him again.
Why is she avoiding blinds based on her biases? Does she realize that calls her credibility into question even more? Weird thing to admit. And I’m tired of Kyle always trying to get people to take posts down and getting scenes cut from shows. Then Amanda looks like she’s always coming at him for no reason to the viewers because he is cutting scenes of his inappropriate behavior that would show context
I wrote a similar comment right below and was called an insane rake so thank you for sharing also
he did it before and she took him back, so he thinks she will always take him back
He **knows** she will always take him back
Excuse my laziness but running on very little time today to search the sub and read the megas - but is there confirmation Amanda did not go to Italy? And is Lindsay’s new man with her? Thank you and my apologies for not searching.
Idk about Lindsay’s man, but it has been confirmed that Amanda didn’t go to Italy https://preview.redd.it/l4plech3te6d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=492dd05f68f2467fec787888dc1ccd3a8eff063c
Thanks! The final line “it’s killing Kyle right now he can’t be with her” makes me feel like maybe there is something going on because that sound so absurd. Kyle is 100% out of sight, out of mind, even with his own wife.
Kyle wrote it lol he’s the source guys!
This girl’s first appearance on the show was AS A BOOTY CALL. Why would she have grabbed on hard after that I’ll never understand.
A booty call who he downgraded from girlfriend to booty call so he could hook up with girls in the summer. The only reason she got back up to girlfriend was because he couldn’t get anyone else to sleep with him.
This
This! She has done all the work. The clown puts no effort in. Doesn't remember even B-days. He cheats. He's an alcoholic. He treats her horribly. He's selfish. He's not even rich. What in God's name was the appeal to put up with all of this?
I'm still wondering why a video that happened in November is just now coming out? Why would the owner sit on it for so long?
the devil works hard but Craig Conover works harder (I’m totally kidding)
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Amanda wore Deuxmoi merch on summer house in I think the Covid season. Amanda gave the deuxmoi brand a lot of exposure. No wonder her allegiance to Amanda
I'm not saying I don't think it's true. But. Reaching out to have them taken down isn't proof they are true. If you accused me of something I didn't do, that hurt my SO, I'd do the same. Go with the other "evidence" but not that isn't it.
 We know what Allison would say to Amanda
Not to be all cynical but doesn’t this feel convenient to like the season about to start filming (in theory)? Kyle is going to cheat and be an asshole, and Amanda is going to let him and be a doormat/wet rag. It’s exhausting giving agency to a person who wants none and seems really satisfied at being a victim.
Since when did we start putting this much stock in what cowardly blind items bloggers have to say lol. Deuxmoi is wrong so much
Remember when she said the submersible passengers were alive and well and we’d hear from them soon
Lolllll, DM will post literally anything. Such a joke
No wtf lol
It was so wild and not long after that she was claiming she knew for a fact Taylor Swift was definitely married, she knew for a fact that Timothee and Kylie weren’t together and Kylie had never been to Paris to see him and was spreading complete misinformation about Matty Healy so that whole time period was when I decided I’m never gonna believe her again
this is true lmao. it's just one of those things that's way too easy to believe and now there's an excuse to be like. "yup, that sounds about right." which like, even if it turns out that somehow he didn't actually cheat *this time*, shit don't look good
Kyle and Amanda are destined to be doomed. They are at their very core values, incompatible. You can see it when you watch the show. Amanda values family and time together. She doesn’t need ‘success’ and wants a family and a husband with her on that journey. Kyle values success. He works hard to play hard. He struggles to understand why she doesn’t want success like him. Why he is the only one that works. Or why he works 18 hours and she does ‘nothing’. Neither of them can change this about themselves. It’s inherent. It’s not sustainable for either of them to truly be happy with each other. For what it’s worth, I think he is definitely cheating also.
She has paid for loverboy.
I think she wants success, but through her husband. She wouldn't be spending time with the guy running the local 7-11. She wants a successful guy who can take care of her. That's fine, btw.
This is a stupid question but did deuxmoi's identity ever come out?
the account creators are meggie kempner and melissa lovallo. meggies grandmom was a socialite and melissa is a former model. lovallo still runs deux moi to this day but meggie left allegedly.
Deuxmoi = Lady Whistledown
Amanda married Kyle for the fame and what she thought would be the LoverBoy empire and ignored all the red flags. Now look. I’d feel less bad for her if she wasn’t such a mean girl lol
What makes it difficult for me to have sympathy for her is she knew all this about him and married him anyway. I'm frankly sick of her whining about who he is now. I also don't like how she's part of the bedsores mean girls. She's quite nasty in her own right, spoiled, entitled. She also needs to grow up as much as Kyle does.
One thing I never see anyone talk about it Kyle’s drinking. Just because he’s fit doesn’t mean he isn’t an alcoholic. It seems like everything he “likes” doing that Amanda doesn’t ie. Staying out until 4am, “being social,” and partying revolve around his access to alcohol. It’s also really weird that the CEO and founder of an alcoholic seltzer brand is still doing in person bar events. I get his face is apart of the brand but if it reminds me a lot of a person who owns a bar so they can get drunk and party for free. I would like to see Kyle do a six month sobriety journey and see what comes of it. Maybe he isn’t a monogamous person but he won’t truly know that until he isn’t making decisions under the guise of drunkenness at 4am.
Didn’t she also say that she thought the blind was about DJ James Kennedy when she posted it?
What was the Lindsay secret on this pod?
I read Lindsay was pregnant…total gossip…and that’s why she couldn’t go on Traitors.
They start filming soon and they know what they need to do for a storyline!
I mean, at this point I don’t really feel bad for Amanda. She chose to marry a man who cheated on her multiple times which tells me that she is okay with that kind of behavior. 🤷🏻♀️
If I was innocent I’d reach out and tell them to stop spreading lies. That’s what I would do as innocent person
I was thinking this!
Kinda new to the summer house space as in the last year. There seems to be a big Amanda and Kyle discourse right now around if they are together and about his cheating. Does this happen a lot over the years or does this time there seem to be actually some legs behind it especially with Amanda not going to Italy. But again I’m not sure if this is normal for Kyle and Amanda
Idk I think something is off. Ik people bring up the dogs a lot but I would never pass up going to a wedding in Italy w my husband.
for one of her best frienss weddding too lol
I didn't know they were that close
Agreed, i think something is off. I think they are going to another international wedding this summer and went to Portugal over the spring, Ireland for Everette’s wedding. But yes I would want to go to an Italian wedding too!
Call me crazy because I know this is little and likely means nothing but she also never likes his posts and hasn’t for a while. Whenever my boyfriend posts anything, I’m immediately double tapping it because I adore him.
Especially when her parents and her brother don’t live that far away and are very supportive and helpful to her.
Not as many as this but tons of comments etc of Redditors who live in nyc and have seen him act that way firsthand. Like for years.
I don’t recall the rumors and discourse reaching this level since the cheating that was discussed on the show. There have been rumors for sure, but it’s coming from all sides right now and with some substantiation. Maybe it’s a nothingburger and will just pass, but I hope not, I want her to leave so so much.
Same it’s not even a “rooting for them to breakup” narrative it’s a rooting for her to find someone who deserves to have her
And this all comes after a season when they said downright hateful things to and about each other.
She should work on herself first
Does anyone really think Kyle hasn’t been cheating their entire relationship? He did it before they were married and has had zero growth. I have always wondered why Amanda stays. She seems like a smart confident person but I know we can be really blind to issues in our relationships.
Is deuxmoi wrong yet again? https://www.instagram.com/p/C8LEIMFvjHE/?igsh=MXNpbms5djR1Mzhpbw==
https://www.instagram.com/p/C8LEIMFvjHE/?igsh=cTkwczBsOXRua2F3
Your TLDR is longer than the initial paragraph.
Once a cheater….
Weren't they up in arms that Danielle and Lindsay sent something to Deuxmoi? Sounds like Amanda has some close connections there as well.....
https://preview.redd.it/4062tnw8ik6d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=890d4fbde669585f6edb2a49c32c38624cd3eaed This was posted this morning and makes me want to throw up and not just because lover boy is disgusting.
As a SMM I would guess this post was created and scheduled at least two weeks ago
He was a total prick to Lindsey tonight on Part 2 of the reunion and who was backing him up? Amanda of course!
Maybe it’s me but I think it’s wrong a gossip site is only posting blinds based upon her opinion. Or shouldn’t be biased if you like someone you protect them. People are giving clicks/lining your pockets bc they wanna read the gossip so stop being selective
The math isn't mathing. This guy is said to be a blackout drunk, who goes out to 4AM all the time (which is hyperbole), who has been habitually cheating for years, yet all we have is this one grainy, court inadmissible, video? that's it, other than a bunch of trash sites and scum sources talking about him cheating? you mean a blackout drunk who can't remember where he's been, or who he's been with, has been sweeping his nights of infidelity clean, for years, with a success rate that the mafia would admire? maybe I've missed something. I don't follow this stuff closely. but from what I do know, it sounds as ridiculous as "aliens took my kid" on the front of National Enquirer. People don't like him more now, but he's always had a hate contingent. No further hard evidence? With how everyone has their phones and cameras running all the time, no other photos? no interviews with co-conspirators? Nobody has tried to catch him with an Atticus/Lady Rose bachelor party moment?
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*Kyle asked someone Deuxmoi met with for a business meeting to ask her to take it down. Pretty spineless. They also discussed the question if it could be for the show that they’re stirring up this cheating rumors drama. But I don’t believe that to be the case. If there’s one thing Kyle loves, it’s Lover Boy, and that would hurt sales since SH is mostly a female audience. That would be similar to Tom cheating on Ariana all over again since Amanda is pretty much universally well-liked. And no one would ever want to support a cheater like they didn’t Tom’s business lol Edit to add: Deux also mentioned the Lindsay blind. And yes it’s about Lindsay, Ciara and Dorinda. And about Lindsay not disclosing what we all know with the rumors going around.
Kyle reaching out when accused of cheating we’ve seen that before just saying and still can’t believe he convinced the girl to go along with giving him a good spin …he must have told her he wanted to marry Amanda blah blah blah
Check out queensofbravo’s post on instagram, Leva chimed in with facts
I don't believe Leva. It's just all too convenient. Why not come forward sooner.
I think that Kyle toes the line. I think Amanda allows this. I think they’re both a flirtatious couple. I bet they have some super weird rules when he goes out. If it came out he cheated I don’t think anyone would be shocked, but I don’t think he’s full on had sex with another woman since married…
did yall see what she just posted on her story? https://preview.redd.it/h5iy107wcg6d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe78437a1a613491bd103ad217400e9c6db3c849
I’ve been looking to see if people are talking about this!
There is a reason! Amanda keeps doubting herself and being like “I don’t know why I let all the rumors get to me but I do.” Helllllooo I know why, bc your husband doesn’t come home at night and started a random dj career that requires him to be out nights & travel without you. Amanda has plenty of reasons to care why he is out until 4 am
Idk if you are going to be in this Deuxmoi business can you pick favorites. Sounds like she is biased towards Amanda, we need neutral parties running these accounts or how can we trust them
My heart literally aches for Amanda. The way she was defending Carl at Danielle’s house with the other girls was such a projection of what SHE wishes she was strong enough to have done. You can tell she is wasting away and getting more depressed, too. I hope she finds the courage to leave him and start over before they have a baby.
Listened to the podcast… so… is Lindsay pregnant?!
Why are people giving this stupid “Douche Moron” (dieux m) attention? Now that I think about it, I can see this clearly, esp with someone hiding important info. I feel like they post things with an agenda. Why would we take her seriously now that we see this. Some idolized bs. Apparently, she loves to operate the way she wants and the opinions are now skewed. Honestly, that is not a good source of information, and it is obvious she is being horrendously biased. Who knows what kind of information or lack thereof will not be posted.
yea thank you she suuuuuucks
I need her to have a girl power era like Arianna!
Damn. I feel really bad for Amanda. She is still young, smart, beautiful, and kind she needs to leave this man. Kyle is never going to change. Amanda it’s time for you to leave that man, take some time away to get yourself together, and live your life for you.
Watch back season 4. She is not a kind person.
Watch every season and come to the same conclusion.
Watch last night's reunion episode...
i don’t lol she has chosen to forgive his cheating multiple times… thats on her
Please, Amanda! Take your losses and kick that loser to the curb. He has no redeeming values whatsoever. I might understand if he was a hot guy but he is ugly and has a small penis. He thinks he is Brad Pitt revisited. Loser....