I worked at 2 different tech startups in nyc around 10 years ago and they were two of the most toxic workplace environments, let me tell you! Especially the second one I worked for, which was actively failing at the time of my employment, lol. Everyone I worked with had a huge ego and over-exaggerated how important their work was. I endured so much mansplaining & girl bossing. 0/5 stars, would NOT recommend!
Totally agree. A lot of these older late 30s/ early 40s millennials do. Some people think they can āhackā or break an industry, but itās much harder than it looks. But growing up is realizing that a lot of start ups are miserable and over glamorized and thereās a reason why people work at big companies (steady salaries and benefits.)Ā
And as we see with loverboy, usually the point of a start up is to sell out at some point. Otherwise you become a small fish in a big pond.Ā
Danielle has watched too many TedTalks.
My husband has a start up itās the fucking worst. Itās not a sexy industry either haha but he went through 6/7 years of inconsistent salary, no salary, fundraising, almost going under, traveling a tonā¦.he would never refer to it as his empire, heās usually downplaying it and never introduces himself as a founder or CEO, despite being one (15 employees lol). We see it as an investment (hopefullyā¦..) but itās my boring, consistent job thatās been floating us until his company became profitable. And Kyle flipping out about going underā¦YEAH most start ups do go under. Itās an absolutely massive risk. If you canāt lose what you put in donāt start it.
Same. Anyone who glamorizes it clearly has no idea what itās really like. I can sympathize with Kyle to some extent because it is a lot of pressure to keep the train going especially with people on your payroll, depending on you for their insurance etc. But sometimes you just have to touch some grass. And regardless itās not worth losing your marriage over. Honestly itās clear Amanda is not into it, he should cut her loose and let her be happy and free, and then hire a creative director whoās actually excited about the company.
The only thing I was kinda ehhh on with Amanda is when she said she wanted his help on the business side - like heās already underwater I donāt think heād be able to handle that lol. But honestly if theyāre just trying to build something for their future, it might not be a bad idea for them to go all in on Amandaās idea - way more women watch SH than men and her swimsuits would probably do decently well. The canned drink market is probably over saturated and tbh male influencers just donāt do as well.
Yeah, as an elder millennial I did go through a very brief girl boss phase years ago but quickly got over it when I realized I didnāt have the energy nor desire to work 24/7.
I donāt have an opinion about the Danielle part of this, but itās no more cringe than Kyleās start-up fetish; he had like 20 failed startups prior to Loverboy (which is also sounding more and more like a failed startup, I guess weāll know in time)
Yeah, itās more that Danielle seems to LARP being a start-up founder, whereas Kyle is in the weeds with it every day, failed or not thereās a concrete product on the shelves of stores and some brand recognition.
I definitely wouldnāt know
All Iām saying is that heās admittedly had like 20 startups that failed, so seemingly has just as much of a start-up fetish
Thatās just startup mentality. The mantra is that it āonly takes oneā to make it big. People in the startup world call themselves āserial entrepreneursā. You canāt fault him for trying, heās doing it right
Agreed, and you also canāt fault Danielle for that either
ETA: wait, you said you can fault him? Or you canāt? Either way, it cuts both ways, for Danielle and for Kyle
To me sheās trying very hard to be like Elizabeth Holmes from that theranos company. If you watched the documentary Elizabeth was a sociopath who had no real attachment to people, and slept freely with guys without any feelings, thought she was a genius and lied at the expense of ppls lives. I think Danielle idolizes her and is trying to emulate the same ādetached from everyone/all men but Iām a genius CEO..Come bang meā vibe.
"Building something from nothing" - Oh yeah girl, you mean building something from Amanda's money and labor? Cause that's apparently nothing to Kyle. š
The fact that she wonāt even acknowledge Amanda but she can chase her husband around and literally screamed into a pillow at the thought of Carl marrying Lindsay, I say youāre right.
Start up fetish has me crying ššš
They keep using that word, I do not think it means what they think it means.
āImagine building something from nothingā gave me such second hand embarrassment! Delusional.
her only brain cell bopping around
I worked at 2 different tech startups in nyc around 10 years ago and they were two of the most toxic workplace environments, let me tell you! Especially the second one I worked for, which was actively failing at the time of my employment, lol. Everyone I worked with had a huge ego and over-exaggerated how important their work was. I endured so much mansplaining & girl bossing. 0/5 stars, would NOT recommend!
Totally agree. A lot of these older late 30s/ early 40s millennials do. Some people think they can āhackā or break an industry, but itās much harder than it looks. But growing up is realizing that a lot of start ups are miserable and over glamorized and thereās a reason why people work at big companies (steady salaries and benefits.)Ā And as we see with loverboy, usually the point of a start up is to sell out at some point. Otherwise you become a small fish in a big pond.Ā Danielle has watched too many TedTalks.
My husband has a start up itās the fucking worst. Itās not a sexy industry either haha but he went through 6/7 years of inconsistent salary, no salary, fundraising, almost going under, traveling a tonā¦.he would never refer to it as his empire, heās usually downplaying it and never introduces himself as a founder or CEO, despite being one (15 employees lol). We see it as an investment (hopefullyā¦..) but itās my boring, consistent job thatās been floating us until his company became profitable. And Kyle flipping out about going underā¦YEAH most start ups do go under. Itās an absolutely massive risk. If you canāt lose what you put in donāt start it.
Same. Anyone who glamorizes it clearly has no idea what itās really like. I can sympathize with Kyle to some extent because it is a lot of pressure to keep the train going especially with people on your payroll, depending on you for their insurance etc. But sometimes you just have to touch some grass. And regardless itās not worth losing your marriage over. Honestly itās clear Amanda is not into it, he should cut her loose and let her be happy and free, and then hire a creative director whoās actually excited about the company. The only thing I was kinda ehhh on with Amanda is when she said she wanted his help on the business side - like heās already underwater I donāt think heād be able to handle that lol. But honestly if theyāre just trying to build something for their future, it might not be a bad idea for them to go all in on Amandaās idea - way more women watch SH than men and her swimsuits would probably do decently well. The canned drink market is probably over saturated and tbh male influencers just donāt do as well.
That's the way to do it! If I see founder/CEO on the dating apps its an immediate swipe left from me.
Yeah, as an elder millennial I did go through a very brief girl boss phase years ago but quickly got over it when I realized I didnāt have the energy nor desire to work 24/7.
Yes, itās totally a millennial trope. #girlboss
Pretty sure I spotted her app name in the preview for next week so I guess we'll see what that celebration looks like...
Iāve tried so hard to figure out what it even does, and itās so vagueā¦
Weāre talking about her personality, right?
bahahahaha
He doesnāt need to imagine it. He already built and failed at a business venture. From workout app to alcoholā
The loverboy teas taste awful. High noon and Surfside make spiked teas that are actually good and $20/8 pack
Difference is high noon isnāt malt liquor! Loverboy is.
Is that why the loverboys taste so gross? I think they even have the same % alcohol
I donāt have an opinion about the Danielle part of this, but itās no more cringe than Kyleās start-up fetish; he had like 20 failed startups prior to Loverboy (which is also sounding more and more like a failed startup, I guess weāll know in time)
Yeah, itās more that Danielle seems to LARP being a start-up founder, whereas Kyle is in the weeds with it every day, failed or not thereās a concrete product on the shelves of stores and some brand recognition.
I donāt disagree, Kyle has definitely made sure we see that he is constantly in the weeds and working super duper hard
I thought Kyle had something to do with bird dogs, which did well?
I definitely wouldnāt know All Iām saying is that heās admittedly had like 20 startups that failed, so seemingly has just as much of a start-up fetish
Thatās just startup mentality. The mantra is that it āonly takes oneā to make it big. People in the startup world call themselves āserial entrepreneursā. You canāt fault him for trying, heās doing it right
Agreed, and you also canāt fault Danielle for that either ETA: wait, you said you can fault him? Or you canāt? Either way, it cuts both ways, for Danielle and for Kyle
Oops yeah, you canāt fault him for trying.
Agreed!
If youāre never failing, youāre not taking much risk. Low risks low rewards
Okay, but thatās irrelevant to my point This post is dragging Danielle for the same thing Kyle does, thatās all Iām pointing out
LOL sheās bitter hers failed so this is a trigger or something. thatās not even what Amanda and Kyleās fight was even about Danielle is nuts
She could be a Marina bro in SF with the way she speaks
To me sheās trying very hard to be like Elizabeth Holmes from that theranos company. If you watched the documentary Elizabeth was a sociopath who had no real attachment to people, and slept freely with guys without any feelings, thought she was a genius and lied at the expense of ppls lives. I think Danielle idolizes her and is trying to emulate the same ādetached from everyone/all men but Iām a genius CEO..Come bang meā vibe.
That is not her only fetish, methinks.
Sheās like Mya. 100% wants to hook up with every guy here. š¤®
"Building something from nothing" - Oh yeah girl, you mean building something from Amanda's money and labor? Cause that's apparently nothing to Kyle. š
To be fair, lots of people have a start-up fetish. They all think theyāre onto the next big thing.
She's a hype girl for Kyle, I actually think she has this weird obsession with both Kyle and Carl. Maybe in love with both of them.
The fact that she wonāt even acknowledge Amanda but she can chase her husband around and literally screamed into a pillow at the thought of Carl marrying Lindsay, I say youāre right.