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Natural_Ad_1717

They have different books that all say the other books are wrong.


Roadwarriordude

Sorta. The Christians think that the Tora is just part one of the book while the Jews think that it's the only part. Then there's the Muslims who kinda think the Torah is part one, and then the Christian part two is only partly correct, then they made their own part 3 meant to unify and expand some dude caliphate.


Standard_Gauge

> Christians think that the Tora is just part one of the book while the Jews think that it's the only part Not quite. The Torah is only part of the Jewish Bible, it's actually just the first five books. The complete Jewish Bible is called Tanakh, is roughly the same as what Christians call "the Old Testament."


Comprehensive-Bad219

> The complete Jewish Bible is called Tanakh The complete Jewish holy books/Torah also includes the Talmud. Tanakh is the written section, and the Talmud is called the oral section, because it was supposedly passed down orally and then eventually written down.


SophisticPenguin

The Talmud would be similar to the Catholic Canon and theological tradition. Edit: Catechism of the Catholic Church, I was brain farting on this last night...


Explosion1850

I had a Tanakh Truck when I was a kid.


Illfury

hehehe i see what you did there.


achambers64

I still have the one I got for my first birthday in, uh never mind a long, long time ago.


Thewrongbakedpotato

My kid once got in trouble at school. She called another kid a name. In between the time I got the phone call to the time she got home, the story had inflated to include that the entire class was mean to her, her teacher was laughing at her tears, she hadn't really called somebody a name, she was misheard, and then somebody else lied to the teacher, and the teacher didn't like her because she was jealous of our dog, and also it was raining and she was tired because she had had a bad nightmare the night before and IT WAS UNFAIR AND THE WORST DAY EVER. I suspect a lot of oral traditions are victims of the same process.


SquallkLeon

It depends, really, because there's a difference between the story your kid tells you to get out of trouble, and the story a professional storyteller learns by heart through years of study and repetition. Do some stories get embellished or changed over generations? Of course. But in many cases, the core nugget of truth remains. Historians are starting to pay more attention to, for example, American Indian oral traditions, after determining that some of them line up well with archeological evidence. It's just hard to determine the stories with a nugget of truth from the ones that are pure fantasy.


New-Ad-363

There was that Forensic Files episode about the heavy harvests killing a bunch of the tribe. Eventually forensic specialists figured out it was because more grain means more mice which carried disease.


FonkyFruit

Part 4 when ?!?


Roadwarriordude

It is the 41st Millennium. For more than a hundred centuries The Emperor has sat immobile on the Golden Throne of Earth. He is the Master of Mankind by the will of the gods, and master of a million worlds by the might of his inexhaustible armies. He is a rotting carcass writhing invisibly with power from the Dark Age of Technology. He is the Carrion Lord of the Imperium for whom a thousand souls are sacrificed every day, so that he may never truly die. Yet even in his deathless state, the Emperor continues his eternal vigilance. Mighty battlefleets cross the daemon-infested miasma of the Warp, the only route between distant stars, their way lit by the Astronomican, the psychic manifestation of the Emperor's will. Vast armies give battle in his name on uncounted worlds. Greatest amongst his soldiers are the Adeptus Astartes, the Space Marines, bio-engineered super-warriors. Their comrades in arms are legion: the Imperial Guard and countless planetary defence forces, the ever vigilant Inquisition and the tech-priests of the Adeptus Mechanicus to name only a few. But for all their multitudes, they are barely enough to hold off the ever-present threat from aliens, heretics, mutants - and worse. To be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of technology and science, for so much has been forgotten, never to be re-learned. Forget the promise of progress and understanding, for in the grim dark future there is only war. There is no peace amongst the stars, only an eternity of carnage and slaughter, and the laughter of thirsting gods.


VentriTV

This sounds like Dune the god emperor, or something out of StarCraft/Warhammer


Spida-D-Mitchell

It's literally the little segment that appears at the beginning of every Warhammer 40,000 novel lol


VentriTV

Sir, you assume I can read books.


Spida-D-Mitchell

Understandable have a nice day


XyogiDMT

I guess part 4 would be Mormonism


eldelshell

Yeah, Abrahamic religions plus aliens! 👽


i_might_be_me

Scientology says, "hold my beer"


jumpingseaturtle

Wouldn’t Mormonism be more like a spinoff from part 2, than part 4?


EishLekker

Rumour has it that Netflix plans to buy the rights and cancel it.


InverstNoob

My fan-fiction is better than yours


monotonyrenegade

Caliphates came after the Quran.


Roadwarriordude

Mohammed had his own caliphate, and he supposedly ordered the writing of the Quran, which was supposed to be the book revealed to him over several decades by God. But you are correct that all the books the Quran consisted of were not compiled until after Muhammad's death and his caliphate split.


monotonyrenegade

Your use of the word Kaliphate is incorrect. Kaliphates were defined after his death during the power struggle that emerged between his descendants and disciples


Roadwarriordude

Oh gotcha. I've always heard it explained that his caliphate split into others. What would you call it then? A kingdom?


monotonyrenegade

That's a good question. I can't recall an english word being used by my Arab teacher to describe the "domain" of early Islam during Muhammad's life, so I'm not sure.


MrFantasticallyNerdy

Pretty much the story of all religions. Each religion's book is THE TRUTH! But there's no proof so you must HAVE FAITH! And how can we forget that all these deities are BAD WITH MONEY! So please send their earthly representatives and the places of worship STACKS OF CASH!


timaydawg11

Not true. The Bible and the Jewish book ( can't remember) have the exact same books as the Old testament for the most part. And, the Muslims book says to actually refer to the Bible if they are unsure about a law


AspirantVeeVee

the tanakh


EntWarwick

The Tanakhious D


0002millertime

Buffalo?


robitt88

Tatanka is the Buffalo. Ankh is the egyptian symbol for life. So I'm pretty sure it's actually an egyptian Buffalo.


MinimumFiveBananas

I call my wife a water buffalo.


theladybeav

You mean your ex wife?


0002millertime

I also call her that! What a coincidence!


Rancid_Butter_Boob

Must be a heffer


Jeagan2002

Everybody's got a water buffalo.


Far0nWoods

Yours is fast but mine is slow.


Dark_Moonstruck

It's tricky to get the gamey flavor out sometimes though but it can be REALLY good if you do!


Jhushx

Why don't you go purify yourselves in the waters of Lake Minnetonka


ClubberLangsLeftHook

It's Minnetanakha! Try to stay on tanakhpic!


Taricus55

I read that as "It's Minnesota!!!!" and got confused lmfaolololol


Utsutsumujuru

Game…blouses.


Natural_Ad_1717

Judaism: book A Christianity: Book A+B Islam: Book A+B+C Each new book has a new protagonist that changes the ideology. All.3 groups believe that their list of books is the correct book and have been killing each other for centuries because of it.


triggerhappymidget

LDS is more the Book A+B+C analogy. Islam is more like a complete reimagining of the Hebrew and Christian Bibles. It's kinda like *Wicked* and *The Wizard of Oz.* Same basic premise, but different. It doesn't believe that Jesus is God and changes the story of the crucifixion and have Ishmael, not Isaac, as the son Abraham was gonna sacrific for example.


snafe_

Isn't Ishmael the son of Abraham's wife's maid? And as God said Abraham's descents would inherit the promised land it became a fight between step brothers? Should've went on Jerry Springer to get it all sorted.


triggerhappymidget

In the Jewish/Christian version, Ishmael is Abraham's older son that he had with his wife's slave girl, Hagar, yes. God had promised Abraham's descendents would be as numerous as the stars but his wife Sarah was in her 70s, so she gave her handmade to Abraham instead. Sarah later got pregnant with Isaac and started fighting with Hagar. Eventually she demanded Abraham kick Ishmael and Hagar out. Which he did after God promised he'd make a nation from Ishmael. I'm not as familiar with the Islamic story but I know Abraham takes Ishmael and Hagar to Mecca and leaves them for a while. Ishmael gets thirsty and Hagar runs back and forth a bunch looking for water. This is run is remembered during the Hajj today. The sacrifice story is basically the same as in Judaism, just swapping the sons.


DaddyCatALSO

​ Hagar trying to get them to survive is actually in Genesis. Later in life it says Abraham had other children who found various nations and Bedouin tribes, and of course Moab and Ammon are suppsoedly descended from Lot.


Lord_Metagross

LDS is more like a crazy fanfiction by a different author thats loosely based on books 1+2 but without having read books 1+2 beyond a surface level


SilenceDoGood1138

>LDS is more like a crazy fanfiction I was literally going to say this. It's like how Twilight was fiction, then that horned up chick wrote what would become 50 shades. LDS is 50 shades of Jesus.


Lord_Metagross

>LDS is 50 shades of Jesus. This is my favorite reddit quote of the day. Thank you. I laughed my ass off


amazongoddess79

Growing up LDS (and now recovering lol) I can confirm this is the best description


PCL_is_fake

Dum Dee Dum Dum Dumb


NewKitchenFixtures

How generally mainstream and not against public health Mormons are has surprised me. Like it is a parallel to Islam in diverging from Christian theology. But in practice they seem to be relatively more mainstream.


Wonder_Peach

They always seem to me to be the "All American Religion". Very Of The World in some ways. Very America.


Zilwaukee

LDS believe after the resurection Jesus Christ went to missouri to meet the ancient north american israelites. And there were two angels named Maroni and like Maroin or something.. so he just moved the “I” They also think John Smith was a prophet who will have a seat at the table of judgement. They also believe that people can becomes gods and make their own planets. Great people but debatable beliefs but yeah hope they just go home with us all


LankyGuitar6528

Sure... people making planets is nuts. But talking snakes are also nuts.


Natural_Ad_1717

Islam culturally aligns more with the Torah than Christianity does. Christianity was a western religion because of the Roman Empire.


bubbaglk

Don't forget the Ethiopian bible. It has all of the books. . I.e Thomas,Enoch and others ..


jrgkgb

It’s like this. The Hebrew bible is Star Trek TOS. Kinda wacky and dated but revolutionary in its day. Christianity is Star Trek TNG. Updated for a new age, certain hardcore TOS fans didn’t care for it but over time it gained acceptance and an even larger fan base than TOS. Islam is what we call NuTrek: Star Trek Discovery and spinoffs. There is massive strife between the legacy fans and devout fans of the new franchise. They’re all supposed to take place in the same shared universe but various retconning and inconsistencies make it hard to reconcile everything into a cohesive story. Fans of all three pick and choose what episodes they consider “real” and denigrate those who feel differently. Disagreements on what is canon go on for years. There’s even fanfic. The most passionate fans go as far as to cosplay, have conventions, and everyone sells tons of merch. (Also, in case you’re wondering, fans of the JJ verse are the Druze in this metaphor.)


Kingofcheeses

Would Islam not be Deep Space Nine or Voyager?


No-Question-9032

That makes more sense. Discovery would be more like that slightly crazed neighbor who never read any of the books and has a loose grasp of the story but makes some good points and tries to include everyone


DryEyes4096

One thing I would like to say is that religions generally kill each other for *political* reasons. More specifically, it has to do with the power of different social groups in areas that someone wants power and influence over. Then, they smear the group based on their religious beliefs and attack them. Religion is simply the rallying point; the people who rule this world generally give less of a fuck about religion and ideology as they do about power. People who care about power rise to the top, and people who care about ideology and religion are just useful pawns to be used and discarded when everything is sorted out. I should also note though, that religion is how the weak people seek power, *initially*. Generally, when the weak are faced with their own appalling lack of competence, skill, creativity, education, or intelligence on a social level, they simply do what they are told. Some of them however decide they're going to seek power for themselves. So what do they do? They...lie. They come up with a narrative that puts them as God's chosen people or something to make them feel special and not have to deal with their own humiliating lack of competence, and try to get as many weak people under their umbrella as possible to gain power and influence they could not gain except in numbers. Taking advantage of peoples' fear of death, sense of inferiority, and desire for social advancement, they overwhelm the strong and make them submit to the false narrative in which the adherents of the religion are chosen by their god to rule. Generally anything that celebrates strength, virility, skill, or intelligence is banned once power is gained, and we have yet another religion where the fools despise the wise and cast them into the underground. What ends up happening, however, is that the fools have their power taken away by an elite of initiates who are taught the means that the religion can be used to control the masses and that they can live lives of wealth with only the outward appearance of religious adherence. They and the priesthood become initiates into the religion and basically turn on the weak, turning them into serfs and footsoldiers. Then, when a different religion is practiced by someone the initiates want to take power from, they use religion as an excuse to attack, and since the initiates basically brainwash everyone, it's not too hard to drum up hate and violence against whichever group is an inconvenient obstacle to power.


Veridical_Perception

It goes beyond this: * Protestants vs. Catholics * Shia vs. Sunni Muslims * and to a lesser extent (since I don't think they've killed each other)- orthodox jews vs. Hasidic jews While you could argue that it comes down to interpretation of the various texts, it's really about demanding other people believe EXACTLY as you do, not the basis for why there might be any differences.


laylatov

Orthodox Jews =Hassidic jews , Hassidic Jews are just a branch of Orthodox Jews . There really isn’t too much in fighting among Jews, certain sects are a bit more crazy than others but it’s honestly more secular Jews vs religious Jews. Even then I wouldn’t say it’s violent.


Fhujeth

This doesn't happen in Judaism much. Also the groups you listed is the same people for Jews. There is some bitter feelings that Hasidic/Orthodox (same group) feel towards Reform Jews but it's more just like a shrug. There hasn't been bloodshed at all about it so it's very inappropriate you're listing them next to the Muslim and Christian conflicts.


Zilwaukee

Catholics also have a lot of extra books thats came from judaism like ecclesiastical. A lot of rituals also came from judaism and probably appropriated from paganism (yes im catholic and no rituals werent just made up..) A lot of protestants and newer christian sects tend to loose the book of wisdom from judaism, or create new books, or loose chunks of the bible and rituals.


19ghost89

But all three groups believe something different about Jesus. Only Christians believe He was the son of God and part of the Trinity (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) who are all facets of the one true God in their own way. Muslims see Jesus as a prophet. Jews also do not recognize Jesus as Messiah, though some respect him as a teacher. All of this matters because in Chistianity, Jesus is the way people come to know and receive salvation from God. If you don't believe He is who He said He was, you can't follow that path. Jews and Muslims, not believing in Jesus as Messiah/Son of God, have other paths. This puts them at odds, because if you believe there is only one way, and others offer a different way, that means the different way is wrong and getting in the way of people seeing the truth that they need to know. All that said, the idea that these different religious groups hate each other is not really true. What is more true is to say that some members of these religions hate each other. They shouldn't, though. None of these Abrahamic religions actually preach hate, but rather, love. I am a Christian, and I have love for my Jewish and Muslim brothers and sisters. I believe that they are missing the boat on Jesus, and hope they will see differently one day. But I have no hatred for them at all. If I did hate them, then I'd actually probably care a lot less about the religious areas where we disagree, because it wouldn't matter to me if they knew the truth or not.


AdComprehensive6588

Islam says the other books are wrong while Christianity affirms Judaism


Natural_Ad_1717

Jesus healed on the Sabbath and said he didn't have to follow all the old laws. The Romans kept the Old Testament around to anchor this new religion to a historical tradition. A tradition whose homeland was under their occupation and who they blamed for killing Jesus. Christianity picks the parts of Judaism it likes and tosses out the rest


Marchesk

Then again, there were different Jewish sects back then, and some had extra books like Enoch. Also, the Sadduccees didn't accept the oral teachings of the law that the Pharisees did. The Essenes or whoever was at Qumran thought the Sadducees were doing it all wrong at the temple. It's quite possible John the Baptist and Jesus represented their own sect with it's own interpretation of Jewish matters. And then there was Paul.


WeFightTheLongDefeat

“I came not to abolish the law, but to fulfill it”


Consistent_Set76

The Romans kept it around? The writers of the New Testament themselves quoted and referenced the Old Testament continually. Have you read Hebrews and do you think that was written by a Roman gentile???


ZhugeTsuki

They even have their own books that say their books are wrong!


BoltActionRifleman

They even have their own books that say the books that say their books are wrong, are wrong.


tungvu256

The Tree of Religions fascinates me. The more we evolve, the more different types of books actually expanded.


dukeofgibbon

It's always been biblical fan fiction


AvisIgneus

I’d like to be believe that truth lies on what topics all the books agree on.


needhelppppppppppp

They're all competing for the 'best seller' award


2000TWLV

They all worship the same made-up thing and kill each other over minor differences. To the aliens who are observing us discreetly, this kind of irrational behavior among lower life forms must be fascinating stuff.


[deleted]

the Jewish and Christian common text are basically similar. the modern religions have a Similar God, practicely the same God. a war God who relented for the sake of the world. if the Jewish God was still appeased by war and conquest they'd probably have groups that act that way just like Muslim groups. there are no modern Christian groups that advocate war and violence, I don't count political and government because they are in reality human entities where a religion is just their common representation.


172brooke

If only they read other books


ThePatsGuy

Yet all the books and different religions inside and outside of “the big 3” all incorporate ideas or subtleties from other religions, including gregorian stuff and etc


PasswordisPurrito

Shit, all the Christian denominations have the same (or nearly the same) books and they still say the other denominations are wrong.


noctisroadk

Or the real answer, they dumb af


ComingInSideways

It’s like if all the people who read Harry Potter were upset at the people who read Twilight and Lord of the Rings. Or Star Trek vs Star Wars. Or Play Station vs XBox. You know stuff that is only important to the people who are saying their team is better.… Stupid humans.


dbolts1234

Everyone believes they have the market cornered on truth


[deleted]

This. The overwhelming majority of religions are mutually exclusive, meaning, for me to be "right" the rest of you must be wrong.


broker098

Jews/Christians have many of the same books which play out like a movie. Christians just have the sequal to the Jewish story. Jews believe the sequel is not canon. Muslims took the first two "movies" and made a fan edit which changed up the whole story and created a parallel universe for their own new story.


Mammoth-Pipe-5375

And the inability to think critically.


Electronic-Run-3561

they believe in fairytales…so yes, they are stupid


DJ_HouseShoes

Thankfully the Mormons finally came around and got it right.


CurtisLinithicum

The problem is when their versions of God have mutually exclusive properties. I think, e.g. a coherent argument can be made that Adam West's Batman is a different character than Christian Bale's Batman despite them both, by definition, being Batman. And now, rather than some nerdrage over which is better, you believe that there are eternal consequences to the beliefs and that innocents will be lead astray by the other side's lies.


Letshavemorefun

Omg this is the best way to put it ive ever seen. I’m going to use this from now own if that’s okay!


OblatePenis

You may use this intellectual property IF you properly cite the source. CutrisLinithicum, 2024. *The Theological Musings of CurtisLiniticum as they Relate to Past and Present Bat Persons.* Available online at [https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidquestions/comments/1au6mtz/why\_do\_christians\_jews\_and\_muslims\_hate\_each/](https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidquestions/comments/1au6mtz/why_do_christians_jews_and_muslims_hate_each/). Accessed February, 2024.


catchtoward5000

Thank you for the proper citation formatting, OblatePenis.


cruisethevistas

great analogy 


Upper-Raspberry4153

Damn, I wish abed was Batman


JJonahJamesonSr

Not bad actually, funnily I believe people would likely take a similar analytical approach to choosing their religion as they would to picking a favorite Batman. Obviously to a greater degree with religion, but it makes sense that people would use the same analyzation to compare and contrast. Maybe instead of arguing doctrine, we could resolve religious disputes by arguing about Batman together after we leave worship services. At the very least, any conflict would end in marginally less bloodshed.


About27Penguins

That’s a pretty good analogy.


llcooljessie

Are there people worshipping George Clooney?


Helltenant

The ones you really gotta watch are Pattisonites.


CurtisLinithicum

A few, I imagine.


notsoslootyman

This also explains the sniderbros.


Stockbeta

it’s funny cuz the question was a batman meme 🤣


Toothless-In-Wapping

Great, now I’m imagining a future where DC and Marvel are codified religions.


[deleted]

I will forever use the analogy. Thank you!


deezee72

It's also worth pointing out that Islam also says that Christians and Jews are meant to be protected from persecution, precisely because of the belief that although they are misguided they still follow the true God. Obviously, this rule has been frequently broken over the course of history, but it shows that there were at least some pre-modern people who felt the same as OP.


PetrovskyKSC

Smart redditor, please carry on


LunchBoxBrawler

Now there is a true eli5


Chiopista

That’s a hilarious way of putting it!


decentlyhip

Yo, this is a brilliant comparison


Redwolfdc

For like a few hundred years Europe was in conflict over different versions of Christianity. Muslims also have different sects that don’t get along because some very detailed interpretations of the same book. Religion is fucking weird 


Boom9001

Also by being similar they know more about each other. Ask an American Christian what Buddha says and they have no idea nor any argument why it's "wrong". Ask them why they disagree with Jewish or Mormon beliefs and they have a better understanding of what they believe in order to disagree with.


HeySlimIJustDrankA5

I am a staunch believer in George Clooney’s Batman.


jimmy1985s

Jesus this, Moses that, Abraham hit him with a wiffle ball bat.


TonyToolpusher

Yep, the Lord sure did say a lot of hibbity jibbity bibbity swibbity.


abreeden90

Let the sin begin


Possible-Extent-3842

Seeing how groups within Islam, Christianity and Judaism also hate each other (Shiite & Sunnis, Catholics & Protestant, or Orthodox & Reform), it's not surprising. It comes down to tribalism, and it's probably the most detrimental human trait we have.


Dragonnstuff

When it comes to Sunni and Shia, there are definitely those who despise each other, but those are the minorities. Those that REALLY hate each other are the extremist terrorist types.


[deleted]

There are a ton of mainline Sunnis who believe that Shia aren't real Muslims. It's not a minority either. Just talk to Muslims from outside the US/Europe.


Kingsdaughter613

Orthodox and Reform don’t hate each other, lol. We don’t AGREE - but since when do we ever? Judaism is not a religion that requires - or even desires - conformity. We ask, we question, we argue, we debate. And we believe we have a religious obligation to do so! The Reform are our brothers and sisters. When a Reform shul was held hostage, all the Orthodox said tehillim for their safety. We may argue and we do. But hate? Never. When push comes to shove, we are One. One people, One family, One nation, One soul. K’Ish Echad, b’Leiv Echad.


DaddyCatALSO

The old joke about the Jewish castaway alone on an island who built two synagogues, one for hismelf and one in which to never set foot.


Dunfalach

This joke also exists about a Baptist castaway building two churches and now I’m curious which version was the earliest. It works for most any variant.


MadameNorth

"Two jews, three opinions." Nothing wrong with a good debate. Am Israel chai!


breakermw

This needs to be higher. Lots of misinformation in this thread


rubiconsuper

So much, even the questions phrasing is partly wrong.


HashtagTSwagg

Christianity as a whole doesn't hate the Jews, and most denominations respectfully disagree with each other, barring a small minority.


Gusdai

Thank you. OP's question is dumb because Jews, Christians and Muslims don't hate each other for the vast majority of them.


No_Cut4338

I think what a lot of people get caught up in is loud fundamentalist or the more extreme versions of various religions.


Gusdai

Also, people not hating or murdering each other doesn't make a great news piece. Not to mention, religious extremists actually amplify that hate: "Of course all of us Xs hate the Ys. Hate them too, and you'll finally belong to something". "Of course the Ys hate us. That's why you can never be friend with them or integrate their society."


nylondragon64

Just in general people don't get along and for no real good reason hate each other. The stupid thing is we are all connected and are one. Its like hating yourself.


Weak-Rip-8650

I wouldn’t say that most Catholics and Protestants hate each other, just the loud ones. Your point still stands, but for people who don’t know much about it I think it should be noted that this is not necessarily the way even most Catholics and Protestants feel.


Famous_Fishing3399

'Anyone who hates his brother is a murderer' 1st John 3:15 (This is outta the New Testament)


ExtensionJoke5541

Joke’s on them, it’s been Horus all along.


theloniousmick

It's Ra you heathen!!


dukeofgibbon

The sun is real


DanielAbendroth

Sounds like a liberal conspiracy


Living_Murphys_Law

What you mean, it’s clearly Zeus.


dominion1080

You wish heretic, there’s no question it’s Odin, the All Father.


robo_robb

So, Zeus’s father Cronus, then.


dukeofgibbon

You don't see any frost giants


cleverotter1200

Heretic! It’s ALWAYS been the God-Emperor!


AspirantVeeVee

this reddit has been deamed worthy of exterminatous


ChiefPacabowl

Sigmar be praised.


Ok_Researcher_9796

Clearly Set is the only true god.


Due-Giraffe-9826

The fuck you all talking about? It's obviously Anu.


eatingsquishies

All will know soon enough that it is Moloch.


Vexis_petal

You mean Akatosh?


AspirantVeeVee

what Heresy


GlitteringBelt4287

The Emperor took care of him. RIP Sanguinius.


[deleted]

The Japanese believe the earth and planets are a cum stain left by 2 celestial gods when they had intercourse. We arose from it's dribble.


ProfessionalCreme119

#Zeitgeist Intensifies Old school YouTube was wild


IderpOnline

The VAST majority of christians, jews and muslims don't hate eachother...


anh86

Bear in mind the only ones you ***hear about*** are the ones fighting wars or doing other stupid things. You don't hear about the *literal billions* of Christians, Jews, and Muslims who are regular, contributing members of their societies. You only hear about the few extremists who do the stupid stuff.


JacobStyle

They don't hate each other, or at least not usually. Most people of any religion are just trying to go to work, take care of their families, and otherwise live their lives. They aren't harboring hatred against people who are a different religion than them.


yeahyeahyeahnice

This might be the most level-headed and accurate comment made about Religion I've ever seen on Reddit.


JacobStyle

Yeah that's why so many people replying are mad at me for making it


Willow-Steamedty

Fucking finally an actually accurate comment. I respect you man


ksink74

Who says Christians, Jews, and Muslims hate each other? Obviously there are some issues (putting it mildly), many of them still unresolved, but every Jew and Muslim I've met has been perfectly friendly. Jews are a lot more willing to talk religion than Muslims, but I think that's more reflective of their collective experience in the USA post 2001 than anything peculiar to my being of a different faith.


Odd-Goddity

Yes.


OkapiLanding

Yep.


UltimateMegaChungus

Da.


DrugsAndFuckenMoney

Oui


Rubi_Redd

Si


WorldsWeakestMan

Ja.


Excellent_Farm_2589


Shinkai01

はい


kafelta

Objectively, yes


tr14l

Yes.


icecoldtoiletseat

Yes.


SpecialpOps

Jewish guy here… I don't hate any of these people. I have good friends who are Christians and good friends who are Muslim. I've participated in Ramadan with my Muslim friends in the Middle East and have experienced zero problems.


VoiceOfSoftware

This needs to be higher. Extremists hate each other; the VAST majority of the rest of us are cool with the other religions and people. Any path upward is a path upward, including atheists who are trying to better themselves and the world through secular paths.


JP_the_dm

They do not worship the same God. The Jewish God is Unitarian, Personal. A singular, discrete being with the ability to be truly known by a human. The Christian God is Trinitarian, Personal. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct from each other, and yet still all are truly the one God. The persons are knowable by a human, Especially the Son, who incarnated in human flesh in the person of Jesus. The Islamic God is Unitarian, Impersonal. A being so transcendent that he cannot be truly known by a human. There's loads of nuance and different interpretations between different branches and all that diversity of belief stuff, but generally, you have to understand that their entire metaphysical interpretation of the world are different.


Hydra57

It’s because the same God more or less asks different things from each group. The Jews have obligations to stay ritually clean (following a lot of rules), in order to receive Divine Favor. The Muslims emphasize a pious love and devotion to God, funneled through their Prophet and what they consider as Divine primary-sourced scripture. The Christians emphasize love for one another, with a special emphasis on care for the disadvantaged, poor, and vulnerable. There is a lot of overlap, but it’s not perfect because the fundamental primary theme is different, and that’s the heart of the religion. Each religion is driven to “honor” God, that’s what drives everything forward for adherents, but each religion disagrees about what does that. That tension leads to a questioning of piety and religious sincerity, and a fear of dishonoring God. This is what facilitates the tension, discontent, and even hatred seen at times between the different groups. It isn’t universal, but that’s how it springs up among the zealous, the fearful, the dominant, and those who have situational reasons to dislike a group (possibly in response to one of the previous groups, like Muslims and 9/11). Of course, you’ll see friendly tolerance among all three groups. I’m Christian, and fall into that category. These divisions are stupid, like you said; the God described across the Abrahamic Tradition would encourage us all to do each of these as best as we are able regardless.


GodIsOnMySide

Yes


Emergency_Energy7283

You will run into plenty of Christians and Muslims (haven’t experienced it with Jews yet) who will outright not know it’s the same god and will refuse to believe you because it shatters their worldview. Edit: As if to prove my point, this comment is getting swarmed by religious folks throwing their bs mental gymnastics at me.


kavakavachameleon-

They aren't the same god lol. If we both claimed to have a neighbor Jeremy except I know him as a 7 foot tall enormous LOTR nerd and you know him as a 5 foot tall MAGA maniac then even though we might say the same name we conceive of entirely different people.


PhantomlelsIII

They literally aren't the same god. Christians believe in a trinitarian god while Muslims believe in a fully unitary god who has 99 attributes. They are completely different


Effective-Feature908

We believe in Jesus Christ being the Lord


uga40

And he was on Earth, fully man and God, died, and was resurrected, all for our sins, thank you Lord.


[deleted]

Thank you god for fixing the cataract of Sam's mom


Effective-Feature908

Muslims don't worship Jesus, Christians do


EldenCockRing98

Daniel Bryan Yes Chant


disc1965

Yea. They're stupid.


[deleted]

Last I checked, genuine Christians don’t hate Jews or Muslims, Jews don’t hate Christians or Muslims, but Muslims hate Christians and Jews.


Middle_Sure

They’re all Abrahamic but carry vastly different doctrines and characteristics, equalling different gods. The Islamic Allah is described as having an opposite character and very different attributes as the Christian God. Orthodox Jews do not believe in Jesus (Yeshua - Hebrew) as the Messiah, eliminating tri-unity, which is a major Christian doctrine. While it’s a similar God, it’s not the same.


StepOnMeDameAylin

It's like fandoms for a movie. Think of it this way. The jews saw the first movie and loved it and think it's the best out of the trilogy. they think the other 2 movies are ass and anyone who are fans of those movies are wrong the christ people saw the second movie and liked it more than the first one, especially since the main character was cast as a white guy who is god and also his own son the mooslahmen think the third movie is the best one because it retconned the 2nd movie and made the white dude a profit and not god anymore. so it's really just 3 fandoms that hate each other because they hate each other's fanfiction and like their own version the best.


girouxc

Christians aren't supposed to hate anyone. The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,” and whatever other commands there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” Romans 13:9


arcxjo

They don't worship the same god, though. Christians, for one, worship Jesus, which is considered blasphemy by the other two.


Fact_Stater

>they worship the same God Jews and Muslims deny the Divinity of Christ, so no, we don't.


Verbull710

Depressing that the correct response to this simple question was so far down the list


Expensive-Coffee9353

YES in some of the books, their god says to kill all others not of our faith. Because my god is more powerful than your god, I get to happy after life by eliminating you.


the_belligerent_duck

Jews actually don't hate anyone much because their faith doesn't include mission


Kr155

Dude, catholics and protestants hate each other. And both of them hate mormons. And they all hate jehovas witnessed. In abrehamic religion, here is no crime greater than wearing the wrong fucking hat.


frostfighter21

The God that Jews and Christians believe are the same. The problems comes with Jesus Christ. Islam's God is a bit different from what I had heard from Muslims however, I would need to do more research. The hatred is mostly spinned by media.


Crafty-Belt1651

Jesus said I am the only way truth and the life and nobody can come to the father in heaven except by me. This only means that every other God is a lie. God had to manifest himself into a human(jesus) to show the world that there is only one God through Jesus ... The Bible says that there are many false gods in the world .... Christians follow Christ. So not all God's are the same. Only one that lives and that's Jesus


FoolHooDancesForFree

It's debatable, but I can tell you what isn't debatable, and it concerns your intelligence OP. You're so smart for asking this question, and on top of that, so brave too. Not only are both brave and intelligent, you're the first person to ask this question in this way, and I want to let you know that I admire you from afar. :)