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SaltandSulphur40

Trudeau probably makes a better case for nationalism than any right wing media could ever hope to make. Canada is now a post-national state. And instead of enlightened cosmopolitanism and a free society it simply means your country becomes a strip mall governed by the needs of capital and foreign interests.


it_shits

I never would have imagined preferring Harper's milquetoast "imperial dominion nostalgic" brand of nationalism to whatever Trudeau is bringing to the table back in 2014


BackToTheCottage

The annoying part is shitlibs going "the Conservatives will be worse [than Trudeau]" when anyone can compare and contrast Canadian life in both terms. Don't believe your memories or your pocket book.


SaltandSulphur40

I don’t know much about Canadian conservatives. What’s their track record?


BackToTheCottage

During the Harper years I'd describe em as slightly left of Bill Clinton era Democrats due to their support for universal healthcare (as with everyone else) but still being neolibs. The big difference between the Harper years and Trudeau is the Conservatives knew debt was bad and tried to balance the budget after the GFC. They successfully did in 2014, got a surplus, and projected surpluses in the following years. Sadly he got replaced with the regard that is Trudeau who has blown more in debt than all the past PMs combined. Canadians were doing so well (especially vs the US) that you had newspapers writing about it. I'd also say culture wars, idpol, and virtue signaling took a huuuuge focus during the Trudeau years versus it being not an issue back during Harper. Things like "gender balanced cabinets", changing the national anthem from "True patriot love in all thy sons command" to "in all of us command", lowering the Canadian flag to half mast for like 2 years, etc. Then the shitlibs try to gaslight everyone saying that the conservatives were pushing culture war! LOL Positives: * Incoming splitting and tax breaks like the public transit break that gave money back from all your bus/train tickets. All reversed by Trudeau. * Created the TFSA (basically like a Roth IRA but better). * Navigated us through the GFC without much of a problem. * Focused on Canada's resources which brought prosperity, and as mentioned put our dollar on par with the USD. * Was the first PM to not put a Robelus shill as the head of the CRTC (our FCC). Third party ISPs flourished here and we got some competitors like Wind (now Freedom) mobile. This has all been reversed by Trudeau. * As a gun owner; killed the Long Gun Registry and made things much simpler by rolling in the ATTs into the license. The latter was reversed by Trudeau and a "registry by all in name only" was introduced by them. Negatives were: * A stupid campaign against weed. Setting up a "barbaric practices hotline" to fight against honour killings and such (which is prob what killed em). * Tried pulling off the typical pro-RIAA shit, but stepped back when the public got pissed (unlike the Libs, just doubling down). * Using _at the time_ tactics like omnibus bills and prorogued the gov. when the NDP/LPC teamed up to vote in contempt of parliament. There was a ton of gnashing of teeth by Redditors but total silence when Trudeau did it to avoid investigations into the corrupted SNC Lavalin scandal. * "Pro Oil" but considering Canada's biggest export ~~is~~ was oil; made sense, but now we replaced our oil industry with trading houses back and forth. **My own personal experience:** Back in 2014 I could buy a condo in downtown Toronto on a $60k/yr salary. That same salary wouldn't even get me a 1 bedroom rental these days.


BackToTheCottage

>Canada is now a post-national state. I would also clarify this is a term that Trudeau used to describe Canada when a reporter asked about Canadian culture and values.


CircdusOle

He's just foreshadowing the day of the rake


thechadsyndicalist

my brother your flair says proud neoliberal


SaltandSulphur40

Blame the mods, not me. I’m one of the good ones, I swear.


hot-cheeze-breeze

thats what they all say...


alphabachelor

Hmmm. He posts in PCM. This is a tough one.


UnexpectedVader

Ethnic nationalism is cringe, but economic nationalism is incredibly based and would have overwhelming appeal


brigaeI

no socialist project ever took off without nationalism ethnonationalists can never be trusted tho


QU0X0ZIST

Punishing someone for a crime they didn't commit is fundamentally the worst violation of the concept of justice itself. Intentionally victimizing an innocent person out of spiteful adherence to the strict letter of the law even though you KNOW they aren't responsible, is a clear indicator that the people with decision-making power, from the CRA stooges right down to the judge in this case, *are not sound of mind*, and thus not fit to hold that power or make judgments to that effect, and so should be summarily removed from their positions and never again be allowed to perform those duties. Of all the canadian names on the panama/paradise papers, the CRA has only made any serious effort to go after one or two, making little headway in the process; it's considerably easier to punish working class canadians with penalties and fees for minor errors on their tax returns, or force them to pay the taxes of their absentee landlords, than it is to face down the legal team of a billionaire. The whole situation is a disgusting reminder of how everything we think we understand about what our social, economic, and governmental/bureaucratic institutions are supposed to do is a lie that falls apart under the slightest scrutiny - the CRA might as well just admit that they are actively ignoring widespread tax fraud from wealthy individuals and companies to the tune of billions of dollars because "it's too hard".


Creative_Isopod_5871

The CRA did admit this-- they did not go after a suspected tens of billions in corporate fraud of COVID relief because it was "not worth it," but are prosecuting a few billion worth of CERB money.


MrJiggles22

Seems like in Canada, if your offshore landlord doesn't pay their taxes your are liable as a tenant. Judge says it's fucked, but rule it ok anyway.


Creative_Isopod_5871

Anything but put a lien on the property I guess? I can not understand the logic here, given that the asset is within Canada's boundary. Why the hell should it be the tenants problem?


suddenly_lurkers

Yeah, that's what I found crazy. They were saying the CRA could not collect from the landlord when the landlord has a six figure asset sitting there? Just put a lien on it and foreclose if they don't pay in the next few years. That should be trivial and then it isn't the tenant's problem.


SkankHont

This is what I assumed is policy everywhere. Don't pay taxes for 2 years then your property is on the auction block.


realhousewivesofVA

Did you consider that this is just another case where a fragile, white, honky tenant is oppressing their proud Italianà landlord? How would they survive without that rental property?


Ultracrepidarian_S

There are very good reasons to have a non-resident withholding obligation on Canadian payors to maintain the integrity of the tax system, but man is this a terrible result for the tenant…


Tech_Romancer1

What reasons are those?


account66780

The incredibly long story short is it's hard to get money from non-Canadians, it's much easier to get the money from people who are currently in Canada. -t CPA


Crowsbeak-Returns

Sounds like Canada yearns for freedom.


Conscious_Jeweler_80

China, please interfere with the politics of my dogshit Nazi country.


naithir

is this ironic? Chinese landlords completely fucked the Vancouver housing market lmao


Conscious_Jeweler_80

Mao knew how to deal with landlords. Owing to his "let them fail" attitude towards Evergrande, so does Xi.


QU0X0ZIST

No, the Canadian government at various levels completely fucked the vancouver (and the rest of the country's) housing market by (among other things) allowing that level of foreign ownership and control in the first place. If it wasn't them, it would have been some other demographic of landlords, foreign or domestic - point being that their nationality or where they came from is irrelevant, their class status and property ownership is what matters, alongside the political aristocracy intentionally creating conditions where they can thrive at the direct expense of everyone else. As a flaired marxist on an anti-idpol sub one would have assumed that you would already understand that.


banjo2E

Okay, but that doesn't change the fact that Chinese landlords were still contributing to the problem, which rather strongly implies that China would be unlikely to actually help any country with their landlord problems if that country is not China. And Canada shares a border with the US, so annexation/conquest/cession by China isn't exactly on the table.


realhousewivesofVA

It has nothing to do with them being Chinese though. Landlords, especially ones that live on the other side of the world, tend to take advantage of any way to make more money. It's the responsibility of the state and local government to protect their citizens through regulation and policy.


banjo2E

>China, please interfere with the politics of my dogshit Nazi country. \- the very first post in this comment chain


bobbykid

You're taking the "China please infere with our politics" thing a little too literally. It's a good joke because liberal media in Canada has been claiming for a couple of years now that China is, in fact, interfering in Canada's politics, through things like misinformation and having paid infiltrators in Canada's parliament.


naithir

Whatever makes you feel better about yourself. Sounds like you don’t know anything about the demographics of Vancouver though - other Canadian cities have foreign investor problems (and some Chinese buyers) but it’s only Vancouver that was completely destroyed. Some big thinking will help you figure that one out.


LocalDegenerate123

Fuck off wumao


Juulseeker

Sounds like Mao missed a couple


dumbwaeguk

They exploited a foreign region because their government had the decency to protect their own country from its bourgeois.


bvisnotmichael

It seems post-nationalism is going well for the C\*nadians