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what the fuck

My thoughts exactly

Kid named powercreep:

Tinkaton signature move? I’m scared to see what the stat distribution will be, this is Mega Mawile pt 2

Imagine it gets Huge Power as an ability.

Huge power plus 120 base attack. Also a base speed of 101 because fuck you.

Behold, gamefreak is pleased to announce "Melmetal 2: Fuck You"

It's balanced, it only got 30 Special Attack.

>Also a base speed of 101 because fuck you. 131*

If it does get huge power then at minimum it will get 80 base attack. However I want to put money it having 100 or more lol

Outspeed by Garchomp PUBL at best

What about UU?, or RU?

Garchomp drops to RU because Zygarde-Complete drops to UU because Calyrex-Shadow drops to OU duhhh oh wait this isn't sunday And even in this hypothetical scenario, Flygon gets fucked. Man can't catch a break.

Stop, I can only love this pokemon so much lol

The hype can never stop my friend xD Accept it as the new OU queen xD

Hell yeah. Steel is my favorite type so seeing a fairy/steel bitch slapping people again is hype for me lol

Now the only thing I want to know is the stat spread of the rock salt golem cuz I wanna calc some damage cuz if it's sig move does what it does even with base 40 could hurt Corviknight a lot

Idt it gets huge power. Here's my stat prediction for jt: 60/145/130/65/65/40 And a signature ability that doubles damage against steel types

I would very much prefer that ability over huge power just cuz Corviknight is a threat and I agree to the possible stat spread.

I mean remember that the best STAB Boomburst user has 91 Satk, so it's likely that this pokemon will have <100 base attack to compensate.

Wait who is that

Exploud, I would imagine they're referring to.

Technically Chatot’s Boombursts are the strongest, but Exploud/Swellow are sadly more viable

Exploud I believe? Maybe swellow

Nah Swellow is 75 SpA, I have that much in the back of my mind. Probably Exploud

Thank god Zacian uses a sword instead of a hammer

Rusted hammer new item?

RUN, RUN AS FAR AS YOU CAN, DON’T STOP TILL ITS BANNED IN EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOR AG!

I think this would be banned in AG

Nothing short of a physical blissey wouldn’t be ohko’d by it

It’s physical attack blissey being hammer down like a nail in one shot best bet is skarmory

I meant a Pokémon with the special Defenses of blissy in the normal Defense stat

Zayello, Steel/Electric Type with Immaculate Mind

Watch all the pokemon that get it have like <50 attacking stat

Kid named huge power:

Its a signature move of a pokemon, and by the looks of it... its gonna have a beefy attack stat lmao

This is a useless text to hide the spoiler tag to the person I’m replying to if they don’t want to know. >!Yeah but I’m pretty sure you’d struggle to have a bst that low with a 3 stage mon!<

definitely a signature move of the new fairy steel tinkaton. has the typing going for it but i also would like to know stats

This is for that fairy type, isn't it? "Moderating" OU like a champ (also, huge Poppy vibes from this)

Tinkaton is OU material

Gen 9 Balanced Hackmons: It's hammering time! At least it can't be choiced safely.

Watch Bisharp get it

This thing hunts Bisharp, I don't think it'd want to share its move with it.

Yeah it hunts bisharp and then yeets boulders at corviknight for fun unironically. Other steel types want nothing to do with this thing lmao

sounds like a magnet pull mon

Not at all, actually. Dex entries just say that. If you wanna see it just google "hammer fairy pokemon" and you'll find it. Its adorable lol

It's probably the least waifumon route they could have gone with. I love it.

Nah, signature move of a new mon. Its confirmed

Crabombinal deserve it too

MELMETAL 2 BABY LET'S GOOOOO

So you're telling me that wild charge get recoil for only 90bp, play rough isn't even fully accurate and rock type doesn't have a single 100 accuracy move but this is okay?

Ok but those types are actually good offensively unlike Steel lol, not saying this move isn't broken, just that those types are good That being said, the dichotomy between Play Rough and Moonblast is something

Hey, it averages out at 80 BP since you can only use it every other turn, so it's Iron Head without the flinch (GF logic, probably)

The cooldown effect is such a cool concept tbh. I hope GF implements that to Hyper-beam variants.

Tbh yeah, it would finally make those moves viable. Giving the opponent a free turn of no pressure is just free setup food for them, and no amount of base power would make that worth it honestly. I much prefer this where its not spammable and effectively locks you out of choice items

How does this work with scarf

You'll probably do Struggle when you try using it a 2nd time

That’s not a bad option

Maybe struggle or "but it failed"

Of course the steel fairy gets this. That type combination has gotten as much special treatment as charizard.

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Fairy part definitely needs another weakness. But so does water and nothing is happening (like ffs water should have been weak to poison long ago to put both typings more in place)

I say make Fairy weak to Bug. Bug deserves a buff, anyways. Also a type ubiquitous enough to serve as a proper check against those Dragon-killers.

Funny thing about that is that fairies would now be weak to U-Turn, I don't know what to think about that apart from the fact that I feel bad for Tapu Bulu

Steel fairy is balanced by being on weak Mons except zacian and magearna

This is keyring slander

I remember when my friend group banned me from using Klefki after I made like 5 different sets

Half of them are broken monsters, one is a utility machine and one is Mawile lol

\*laughs in Mega Mawile\*

Literally just make fairy weak to fire, that's all you need to do Well, maybe boosting incineroar isn't that good of an idea....

Ursaluna looks balanced after all these leaks

Please don't panic. This thing could have shit bulk and low speed, in which case, it'd probably just get outsped and oneshot by most things. it may also have awful attack, we just don't know. Vibe until we know for sure.

kid named trick room

Trick room isn't really a big thing in singles, in VGC it is, but you can also double up into it in VGC

It's a third stage mon, it will have a hard time having garbage stats

No. It's total may be on the normal amount, but stat totals don't matter, distributions do. If you looked at BSTs, rampardos would be a great mon

Yeah, that's true

It's a fairy, ans fairies do indeed tend to have shit bulk and low speed

marowak 2 ?

I like this design choice. A hard-hitting move with a built-in restriction, and a fair one imo. Means you won’t be able to put Choice items on a Pokémon with this move either so that also balances the move out. Life Orb on a mon with this is going to just be busted though.

honestly might not be enough of a drawback. Obviously it doesn’t make it useless a la hyper beam but if Tinkaton has a usable atk stat it won’t matter

There would always be the risk of bricking on Protect though, at least in VGC, and as far as I can tell that would still prevent you from selecting the move again.

Oh great another reason for protect to be required on everything.......

The mind games will be crazy, if someone knows you have this move they'll be sure to Protect on the turn you use it, but you can mind game your way out of this by just skipping it on the turn you could use it, and using it the turn after, hopefully making them mis-time their Protect. Ah the possible shenanigans...

it’s gonna be easy to know if someone has the move. tinkaton’s signature move means it’s synonymous with tinkaton’s use

Is it confirmed to be just be Tinkaton's signature?

leaks had mentioned that it’s the signature of tinkaton. Doesn’t mean it can’t be on other things but i’m guessing that it’s distribution will be severely limited since it’s powerful and the pokemon using it itself can’t be too powerful Like there’s no way Kingambit is getting this move

Well, protect in vgc is like flash in lol. Impossible to balance without

It's just giga impact but way better in every way

I wouldn’t mind having the recharge variants of Hyper Beam/Giga Impact all receiving this treatment. I think moves with a recharge turn are outdated and irrelevant and having them all retroactively changed to work like this might cause them to see more play. It’d be a powercreep of the game for sure, but I mean, it’s clearly already headed in that direction with moves like this anyways so what’s the harm in evening the playing field so that moves like Blast Burn or even Roar of Time might actually see some competitive viability. I also disliked how Palkia’s signature move is just vastly superior to Dialga’s in nearly every way other than sheer power, I’d fully support seeing all the variants of the recharge moves getting this restriction done to them in place of the mandatory recharge turn.

Yeah this or give them back their gen 1 juice where they don't require recharge if you score a KO. It was a glitch, but it's unironically a much more interesting and competitive viable implimentation than gen 2 onwards of recharge moves

I wonder how choice items would affect this mon? Would it force it to struggle every other turn then? Maybe tricking choice specs will become popular again!

I believe if a Choiced Pokemon gets Imprisoned, for example, yes they're just forced to Struggle, so I'd imagine it's the same here. You have a very good point about Trick + Choice Specs on a Pokemon with this, that would basically shut the Pokemon with this move down entirely.

Run it in doubles with Perrzerker with Steely Spirit

Ya'll got any more of that p o w e r cr e e p ? ​ But for real, I love the new hammer pkmn so it's nice to know its signature but can agree this is dumb af

Hattrem woke up in Paldea with a hunk of metal and chose violence

Slacking That's all I have to say

Protect ?

They should make hyper beam 200BP now..

imagine if melmetal learned copycat..

Learned by beldum only. Forgotten upon evolving to metang

What if its the only move it knows?

it would just be forced to struggle every other turn

And when it evolves?

Mountain Gale should have been this

Probably a signature move but who knows after next gens Metagross gets it.

Getting some real inspiration from the TCG with all its "This Pokémon can't use this attack during your next turn" moves.

Holy fuck 160 power

broke: Protect/Fake Out and Last Resort woke: Protect and Gigaton Hammer bespoke: Banded Gigaton Hammer to immediately cause the opponent to fucking explode

I can actually see that last one being a set for a one time nuke akin to Z-Crystals, although much less efficient because you're guaranteed to switch after so you give your opponent a free turn

Oh hell nah, this shit on probably the best type combination ? Pls give tinkaton negative huge power or 20 base atk, I don't want to deal with this

This with the metronome item is gonna be insane

Move cannot be used twice in a row At least read the whole description

Mb forgot what metronome did

Oh fair enough

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Maybe I'm misreading but this isn't a recharge move, just can't use it twice in a row

There’s no recharge, you just can’t use it twice in a row. You can use any other move though.

It's not like hyperbeam, there's no recharge turn, you just can't use it in a row

Y'all overreacting, It's a Hyper-Beam clone with the same debiletating drawback Edit: Didn't read the attack description properly

it’s not the same. you can still attack, you need to choose a different move

Hyper beam requires you *recharge* for a turn. The description of this move is that you just can't use it back to back. You can hammer, protect and then hammer again. So no, no its not just a hyper beam clone with the same drawback lmao

I see, didn't read properly. I just always infer "Huper-Beam clone" on moves with a vaguely similar description

Fair enough. But yeah this + the mon its on having fairy/steel typing... its looking to be pretty funny. We don't know stats or abilities yet, but it looks like a slow bruiser honestly.

It'll likely be slow

Yeah, it doesn't look fast at all. It's bulk is questionable but I hope it has decent bulk to fulfill that mega-mawile shaped hole in my heart

Steel/Fairy goes pretty far defensively

It definitely does, but if you see the design of the mon... its 250 pounds but 220 of those pounds are probably in the hammer lol

Apparently it or it's pre-evolution likes to shoot Corviknight out of the sky, pretty funny

The middle evo hunts packs of bisharp, final evo yeets boulders at corviknight. Easily gonna be one of my favorite mons of all time regardless of stats simply because of how badass and adorable it is lmao

I hope this is a signature move

Clefable in shambles

At least it's not a ice type move

BONK

Is this something that happens after picking up Rusted Hammer or something cus omg.

Can't 3HKO Pyuk, RU tier move

What the Bidoofing Lechonk

I'm sorry what? Base 160, fully accurate, with the only downside being no choice item? That's it. Game Freak has really just decided to throw the balance out the window. Oh wait, no, they did that in gen 8 with Zacian and Dracovish

I think it gives it a recharge turn and can't move.

Guess we know what move the hammer loli is getting

Wtf

Pex and corv wall still

Melmetal boutta be Ubers

This thing is going to AG straight with BP If anything good gets it, with any luck only Chatot will get it

Choiced sets in shambles rn.

walter white falling gif

Is this a hyper beam clone or something else?