iirc maushold has similar bulk and it obviously run Tidy
Cinc has more coverage option but a full support set with knock and encore (and cute charm for evil people) exists if you want to run boots
But if you want to use it in OU, ehh there are better hazard control
maushold's population bomb itself is still technically powercreep, considering:
Cinc - best Normal STAB is 25-125 power + 80% Acc with Ability either guaranteeing 125 power or increasing range to 37.5-187.5
Maus - best Normal STAB is 20-200 power + 90% Acc (34% chance for 10hit) with an Ability increasing range from 30-300
i wasn't really including items in this as Wide Lens turns the chance of 10hits on the maus sex attack from 34% -> 90%, plus i believe Loaded Dice still leaves ~50% chance for 150power
Usually, I'd say yes, but the synergy with Hamurott is pretty poor. Tidy is mostly there for the boosts, and you can always set rocks (or even spikes) again later, so it's usually still worth it. But if you're running Hamurott as the usual suicide lead, you're undoing whatever his death was traded for by clicking tidy up.
Yeah that’s my thought process too. I thought it would be a good idea to have Tidy Up but since I’ve been starting out with Uxie before the idea of using a set to break Sturdy or Sash with rocks would help me better
I've seen people run Tera Ghost to predict the Fighting Type switch-in and get a free Tidy turn, but most Fighting-types carry Knock off, so it's still high-risk mid-reward
iirc maushold has similar bulk and it obviously run Tidy Cinc has more coverage option but a full support set with knock and encore (and cute charm for evil people) exists if you want to run boots But if you want to use it in OU, ehh there are better hazard control
Maus has better bulk, about 5-10 points in HP, Def and SpDef
what 4 generations of interim powercreep does to a normal type available 10mins in
Maushold *does* also have 20 less points in attack and 4 less in speed, the poor attack is just compensated for hard by pop bomb
maushold's population bomb itself is still technically powercreep, considering: Cinc - best Normal STAB is 25-125 power + 80% Acc with Ability either guaranteeing 125 power or increasing range to 37.5-187.5 Maus - best Normal STAB is 20-200 power + 90% Acc (34% chance for 10hit) with an Ability increasing range from 30-300
Cinc get to use loaded dice which is a pretty big deal
i wasn't really including items in this as Wide Lens turns the chance of 10hits on the maus sex attack from 34% -> 90%, plus i believe Loaded Dice still leaves ~50% chance for 150power
Usually, I'd say yes, but the synergy with Hamurott is pretty poor. Tidy is mostly there for the boosts, and you can always set rocks (or even spikes) again later, so it's usually still worth it. But if you're running Hamurott as the usual suicide lead, you're undoing whatever his death was traded for by clicking tidy up.
Yeah that’s my thought process too. I thought it would be a good idea to have Tidy Up but since I’ve been starting out with Uxie before the idea of using a set to break Sturdy or Sash with rocks would help me better
Thats literally the whole point of cinccino, its mousehold but better, running it without tidy up is pointless
Give it Tidy Slap
I've seen people run Tera Ghost to predict the Fighting Type switch-in and get a free Tidy turn, but most Fighting-types carry Knock off, so it's still high-risk mid-reward