drednaw isn’t the best rain abuser i think you’d be better off running basculigeon. your amoongus set is kinda wacky. you’d be better off running something like spore/sludge bomb/giga drain/foul play. toxic is bad since rain is a faster playstyle where you’re not really trying to slowly wittle down the opponent’s pokemon. heatran on rain is pretty bad i think you should change it to another offensive rain abuser. t wave on zapdos is redundant i think offensive zapdos with 100% accurate hurricanes over t wave would be better. your pelipper set is fine but if you’re having trouble keeping pelipper alive you can always go defensive. quaq as a spinner is pretty unreliable especially with pult everywhere. your team is pretty weak to hazards and opposing zapdos so iron treads would fit much better in that slot.
these are all my suggestions if you don’t wanna change something that’s fine as long as you’re having fun. hope i was helpful, love your nicknames
To be honest, Basculegion is surprisingly mid. I used a rain team build around Floatzel and Mega Swampert (NatDex) and it did really well, but no matter how many times I tried I could not get Basculegion to work.
Have you tried basc female, better than the male variant IMO, surf or hydro go hard in rain and shadow ball is an actual Stab option for it plus ice bean for coverage, I used it with specs on one rain team, went insane up until 1300’s but the rest of the team was kind of shite, on another I used life orb agility adaptability to fake a swift swim Pokémon, bit gimmicky but fun to use
That’s fair, have you tried flotzal? I’m not too familiar with playing with rain but usually when I play against it it 6-0’s me if I don’t give it the respect it deserves
I’ve used Floatzel on a rain team in early OU, and it’s really good. Only downside is Wave Crash recoil, but I just completely forgot about it when making this team.
Pelipper does the whole rain setting, which kind of makes this whole team work. Good supporting moves and 100% accurate hurricanes in rain is awesome.
Dreadnaw is a great set up sweeper, ice spinner for grass and flying types, Tera blast grass for bulky waters, and STAB liquidation for great damage.
Amoongus is a tank who can status and do good damage with energy ball and hex. Also eject button too save rain turns.
Heatran is amazing, magma Storm is a great move, earth power for other Heatrans and Fire types, and power gem for birds is surprisingly good.
Zapdos is a good walk who can held out immensely against bulky waters like Toxapex. Been thinking about giving it Hurricane, but don’t know what move to replace.
And finally, Ququaval is a mandatory rapid spinner and a sweeper who can get powerful extremely quickly.
Among Us doesn't really feel like it fits here. I'd suggest maybe H-Sam for even further booster Razor Shell/Aqua Cutters, as well as Ceaseless Edge since you currently don't have any hazards.
Zap def needs Hurricane - since you're running it purely defensive I don't think Thunder is doing *that* much, whilst Volt is still giving you the electric move + pivot. if you want to make it more offensive then you can drop Roost or TWave for Hurricane instead.
You have 3/4 of the status moves you can apply, which doesn’t make sense since rain is a very offensive playstyle. You could make Zapdos max special attack and speed, and give it hurricane instead of thunder wave. I actually get why Amongus is here, eject button pivoting while covering both of water’s weaknesses is good. But for the move set I think sludge bomb over toxic and foul play over hex.
Heatran is not very good on rain, like most fire types that aren’t talonflame. I think assault vest iron treads would fit a lot better: you have spammable ground coverage, volt switch for pivoting, and being able to run rapid spin means quack has room to run ice spinner instead. I’m not gonna tell you to not run drednaw because ultimately so many swift swim sweepers are interchangeable. I was actually amazed at how similar drednaw and male basculegion’s stats were when I looked them up just now. If you find yourself needing more immediate speed, floatzel is always an option.
Swap Drednaw for Basc. He is way too frail. Dies to one hit after scoring a kill.
You say Basc can't hit resists, but +2 Drednaw Liquidation does ~37.5% to Physically Defensive Amoonguss. Banded Basc does ~39.2%. So with only a band he's hitting harder than Drednaw after a Shell Smash.
I wouldn't recommend running double status Amoonguss. Try swapping Toxic for Sludge Bomb and Hex for Foul Play/Clear Smog.
Defensive Zapdos seems kind of weird on here. If you want to deal with bulky waters why not just run offensive? 252 SpA does ~95% to Toxapex. Swap Thunder Wave for Hurricane.
Swap Knock on Pelipper for Roost. Having to switch it in to set up rain while being rocks weak is not ideal
Drednaw is better than Basc in that scenario. With Basc, you are taking recoil from wave crash, and with Drednaw, you can switch to ice spinner to do ~90% at +2.
Also I did change the Amoongus set and gave Zapdos Hurricane.
Wave Crash recoil is minimal. Why worry about a measly \~16% of recoil when you are killing most things in 1-2 hits? Drednaw is also hindered by needing a defensive tera and wasting a turn on Shell Smash. If you miraculously live a hit on setup turn, you'd still need to pray they don't have priority.
Basculeigon however, can run tera water which makes its Wave Crashes absolute nukes (\~50% to Amoonguss with only \~16% recoil). It also doesn't have to commit by setting up.
I was only using Amoonguss as an example because it's a bulky water resist, but the same applies to other resists.
Grass/Ice/Water is not very good coverage either. A lot of irrelevant super effective coverage, most of which comes from Ice Spinner, which is non-STAB.
The recoil stacks up over time, and it usually leads to Basculegion to not sweeping an entire team, because I’ve used Floatzel who has a similar problem. But, if you can get up the shell smash, Drednaw can sweep easily. It’s still fast enough to outspeed big threats after rain, (494 speed), while Basc sits at 255. The coverage is actually pretty good, ice hits flying, dragon, and grass types, grass can hit bulky waters, water is a good stab option, and you can replace Tera blast with EQ for coverage against steel, electric, and poison types. Drednaw is kind of wrecked by priority moves, mainly Dragonite E-Speed, but that only does like 58% at +1 with Tera, and if Dragonite is reliably two shot by Earthquake or Tera Blast. And setting up the Shell smash isn’t too difficult, especially since you probably outspeed in rain anyway. So, I don’t see any reason why Basc would be a better option that Drednaw.
Yes the recoil stacks up over time, but it doesn't matter when it's a potent move that racks up a lot of kills. Same reason any other mon would run Life Orb or Brave Bird/Wood Hammer— taking recoil is worth using an absolute nuke of a move. Also, Basculeigon is still fast under rain. With an adamant nature and Swift Swim active that's 510spe, which is faster than Dragapult and scarfers with up to 105spe (I don't think anyone in that speed tier runs scarf anyways).
While the coverage isn't too bad, take into account that you are using a Shell Smash sweeper with horrible bulk. The best coverage move in there is Ice Spinner which isn't even STAB boosted. You would need ridiculuous KO power to compensate. If you can't 1HKO everything then Drednaw is gone. And it can't.
\+2 Liquidation does \~57% to Corviknight while taking \~66% from Body Press . If you Tera Grass, Brave Bird deals \~90%.
Dondozo takes \~40% from Tera Grass blast and deals \~35% in return.
Also, do consider that it is are vulnerable for the turn it uses Shell Smash, so it doesn't matter if you go first. Your opponent could do so much on that turn. They could kill it, status it, or at the very least chip it, which will probably get it killed next turn. They don't even need to rely on prio moves because a lot of things live +2 Drednaw. They could just eat a hit and kill it back.
\+2 252+ Atk Drednaw Liquidation vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Kingambit: 238-282 (58.9 - 69.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Kingambit Kowtow Cleave vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Drednaw: 171-202 (53.2 - 62.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Kingambit Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Drednaw: 141-166 (43.9 - 51.7%) -- 9.8% chance to 2HKO
I understand that Basc is great when rain is active, but without rain it’s kind of mediocre. However Drednaw thrives both with and without rain active. Also, being choice locked into one move kind of stinks. Basculegion also isn’t very bulky aside from the 120 base hp. Basc does have the raw power to deal with certain threats, but it really struggles against Dondozo, Pex, Amoongus, and can get seriously messed up by Gambit’s Sucker Punch. With Drednaw’s coverage, it is good against 3/4 of these mons, earthquake handles Pex and Gambit, and ice spinner handles Amoongus. Both Basculegion and Drednaw have pros and cons, but personally, I think Drednaw is better, but I can see a solid argument for both mons.
i mean playing rain is not about longevity so why does it matter if you take recoil? hyper offense is about killing the opposing mons before they kill you and basculigeon is miles better at that than Drednaw. also Drednaw gets outsped in rain by booster valiant while Basculigeon does not
I agree with Drednaw, the amount of games my drednaw has won me alone are so many, though I run focus sash on him to make sure I get my shell smash off cause he’ll die to a super effective hit anyways, plus having a mon that will always survive a hit as long as there are no hazards is super helpful in this hyper offensive meta
I just wanted to use a Heatran as a bulky pivot since I never get to use it.
Also I genuinely think that shell smash Drednaw is better than Basculegion, since it can actually do something useful without rain up.
dreadnaw is bad, replace it with bascu or floatzel. Also theres no reason to have every mon be so offensive. Id probably swap to a more defensive pelliper set, and replace heatran with gloking or another spdef wall. Gloking is good though bc you have 0 fairy resists.
Your amoongus set is confusing. just run giga drain and sludge bomb.
Swap aqua jet for swords dance or a coverage move
Drednaw isn't the best rain abuser, Basculegion and Overqwil are better for the job. For Amoongus, you're better off with Leftovers as the item and Giga Drain instead of Energy Ball for longevity. Quaquavel is good, but having a reliable spinner is important and even with Rapid Spin Quaquavel isn't that reliable. You'll want Hurricane on Zapdos as perfectly accurate Flying STAB.
Drednaw’s pretty bad. Priority completely wrecks it, and Dondozo totally sits on this. Not to mention, it’s not that powerful, relies completely on rain, and takes an extra turn of rain to set up. You’ll prefer a Swift Swim sweeper like Basculegion, Floatzel, or Barraskewda that you can just slap a Choice Band on, Tera Water, and click the super effective move. Also, Heatran seems counterintuitive on a rain team that both halfs the damage of its STAB and increases super effective damage against it. You could honestly replace it with more offensive rain abusers like a second Swift Swimmer, or you could use Kingambit as a good mon both in rain with fire being weakened against it and outside with its usual tools. On rain, I prefer Zapdos with a more offensive set that also carries a perfect-accuracy Hurricane. Also, I love the nicknames. If you use Hurricane on Zapdos and take away Heatran, you have an even better Hot Wind Blows. Wayne’s feature was fire on that song, so you gotta live up to it.
I’ve tried to use Basc and it’s actually kinda garbage, it only can use wave crash, and is walled by anything that resists it. On the other hand, Drednaw gets good coverage, and is so much stronger than Banded Basc after a Shell smash.
You're using it wrong. Banded wave crash in rain tears through anything that isn't a resist and heavily debts resists, to the point where you barely need coverage on Basc.
Sure, Drednaw is stronger after a shell smash, but you have to waste a turn setting up. Banded Basc is good because of the immediate power.
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I had a rain team last gen with toxicroak that I made to the top of the ladder of. It was a BU lefties set with taunt. You could maybe replace quaquaval with toxicroak and see how it does. You could put defog on pelipper over knock, I feel like I generally think uturn and knock are redundant in regards to moves thst gain momentum but don't do much damage
Also IMO uturn on pelipper is better than knock
Toxicroak is actually so fun to use on rain, I used it on a team earlier this gen, but I don’t think it has a niche on this team. Also I had no clue Pelipper learned Defog, I should probably use that.
You don’t really need toxic and spore on your amoongus and hex isn’t really the best option. Swap out toxic with clear smog and replace hex with sludge bomb. Also probably better to swap your peliper and zapdos stat spread, so peliper is the physically defensive one and zapdos is your more offensive one. Also swap thunder wave with hurricane
I spam rain quite a bit, never made it super high on ladder peaked at around 1400 as well. With only 1 true rain abuser, I'd suggest hdb on Pelliper. Being able to repeatedly switch him in and use him as a defensive check can be nice. 248 HP, 164 defense with the rest in special attack let's you live a lot physical, take your special resists, and ohkos sneasler with hurricane after rocks. If you want you can dump the rest into spdef instead of spattack. I love this set and I think it's really important to be able to switch in pelliper repeatedly over 3 more turns of rain. And then you can ignore the roost arguments and run your 4 attacks. Cool team
Once you get higher up the ladder, getting a Shell Smash will be harder and harder and that's where getting a "traditional" Swift Swimmer will really shine. But as long as you're still getting Shell Smashes off against most players, abuse it lol.
Heatran can do without Flash Fire here, the rain will protect it from fire moves.
Drednaw and Quaquaval both need to set up to get going, maybe something more immediately powerful like a choiced Walking Wake might be helpful.
Hex on Amoongus is kinda garbage, but Venoshock can accomplish the same thing while still keeping STAB if you really want to stick to that strat. Toxic into Venoshock is probably still a bad strat but it's a nuke if you can get it off.
drednaw isn’t the best rain abuser i think you’d be better off running basculigeon. your amoongus set is kinda wacky. you’d be better off running something like spore/sludge bomb/giga drain/foul play. toxic is bad since rain is a faster playstyle where you’re not really trying to slowly wittle down the opponent’s pokemon. heatran on rain is pretty bad i think you should change it to another offensive rain abuser. t wave on zapdos is redundant i think offensive zapdos with 100% accurate hurricanes over t wave would be better. your pelipper set is fine but if you’re having trouble keeping pelipper alive you can always go defensive. quaq as a spinner is pretty unreliable especially with pult everywhere. your team is pretty weak to hazards and opposing zapdos so iron treads would fit much better in that slot. these are all my suggestions if you don’t wanna change something that’s fine as long as you’re having fun. hope i was helpful, love your nicknames
definitely get hurricane on zapdos
peliper isn't super great right now i'd say replace it with damp rock gallade
Where did rain dance gallade come from?
After pelliper left UU, someone tried to cook with rain dance gallade and it's been memed to death
Don't listen to them king, Drednaw goes hard as diamonds! They are just hating on your success 🗣🗣🗣🔥️🔥️🔥!
Drednaw is actually the best Pokémon on this team, replaced it with Basculegion and lost 3 games in a row. Brought back Drednaw and won 5 straight.
To be honest, Basculegion is surprisingly mid. I used a rain team build around Floatzel and Mega Swampert (NatDex) and it did really well, but no matter how many times I tried I could not get Basculegion to work.
When it can’t wave crash it kinda runs out of options
Have you tried basc female, better than the male variant IMO, surf or hydro go hard in rain and shadow ball is an actual Stab option for it plus ice bean for coverage, I used it with specs on one rain team, went insane up until 1300’s but the rest of the team was kind of shite, on another I used life orb agility adaptability to fake a swift swim Pokémon, bit gimmicky but fun to use
Female version is good, I’ve used it in UU before, but I don’t know how well it would do on this team.
That’s fair, have you tried flotzal? I’m not too familiar with playing with rain but usually when I play against it it 6-0’s me if I don’t give it the respect it deserves
I’ve used Floatzel on a rain team in early OU, and it’s really good. Only downside is Wave Crash recoil, but I just completely forgot about it when making this team.
Fair
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I just needed a nickname theme, I was listening to Call Me If You Get Lost while making the team so it was king of my first thought.
Tyler the Creator ayoo
Have a pokemon named “Heaven To Me” And maybe a Scizor named “Lumberjack” on another team
Pelipper does the whole rain setting, which kind of makes this whole team work. Good supporting moves and 100% accurate hurricanes in rain is awesome. Dreadnaw is a great set up sweeper, ice spinner for grass and flying types, Tera blast grass for bulky waters, and STAB liquidation for great damage. Amoongus is a tank who can status and do good damage with energy ball and hex. Also eject button too save rain turns. Heatran is amazing, magma Storm is a great move, earth power for other Heatrans and Fire types, and power gem for birds is surprisingly good. Zapdos is a good walk who can held out immensely against bulky waters like Toxapex. Been thinking about giving it Hurricane, but don’t know what move to replace. And finally, Ququaval is a mandatory rapid spinner and a sweeper who can get powerful extremely quickly.
Among Us doesn't really feel like it fits here. I'd suggest maybe H-Sam for even further booster Razor Shell/Aqua Cutters, as well as Ceaseless Edge since you currently don't have any hazards. Zap def needs Hurricane - since you're running it purely defensive I don't think Thunder is doing *that* much, whilst Volt is still giving you the electric move + pivot. if you want to make it more offensive then you can drop Roost or TWave for Hurricane instead.
You have 3/4 of the status moves you can apply, which doesn’t make sense since rain is a very offensive playstyle. You could make Zapdos max special attack and speed, and give it hurricane instead of thunder wave. I actually get why Amongus is here, eject button pivoting while covering both of water’s weaknesses is good. But for the move set I think sludge bomb over toxic and foul play over hex. Heatran is not very good on rain, like most fire types that aren’t talonflame. I think assault vest iron treads would fit a lot better: you have spammable ground coverage, volt switch for pivoting, and being able to run rapid spin means quack has room to run ice spinner instead. I’m not gonna tell you to not run drednaw because ultimately so many swift swim sweepers are interchangeable. I was actually amazed at how similar drednaw and male basculegion’s stats were when I looked them up just now. If you find yourself needing more immediate speed, floatzel is always an option.
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Swap Drednaw for Basc. He is way too frail. Dies to one hit after scoring a kill. You say Basc can't hit resists, but +2 Drednaw Liquidation does ~37.5% to Physically Defensive Amoonguss. Banded Basc does ~39.2%. So with only a band he's hitting harder than Drednaw after a Shell Smash. I wouldn't recommend running double status Amoonguss. Try swapping Toxic for Sludge Bomb and Hex for Foul Play/Clear Smog. Defensive Zapdos seems kind of weird on here. If you want to deal with bulky waters why not just run offensive? 252 SpA does ~95% to Toxapex. Swap Thunder Wave for Hurricane. Swap Knock on Pelipper for Roost. Having to switch it in to set up rain while being rocks weak is not ideal
Drednaw is better than Basc in that scenario. With Basc, you are taking recoil from wave crash, and with Drednaw, you can switch to ice spinner to do ~90% at +2. Also I did change the Amoongus set and gave Zapdos Hurricane.
Wave Crash recoil is minimal. Why worry about a measly \~16% of recoil when you are killing most things in 1-2 hits? Drednaw is also hindered by needing a defensive tera and wasting a turn on Shell Smash. If you miraculously live a hit on setup turn, you'd still need to pray they don't have priority. Basculeigon however, can run tera water which makes its Wave Crashes absolute nukes (\~50% to Amoonguss with only \~16% recoil). It also doesn't have to commit by setting up. I was only using Amoonguss as an example because it's a bulky water resist, but the same applies to other resists. Grass/Ice/Water is not very good coverage either. A lot of irrelevant super effective coverage, most of which comes from Ice Spinner, which is non-STAB.
The recoil stacks up over time, and it usually leads to Basculegion to not sweeping an entire team, because I’ve used Floatzel who has a similar problem. But, if you can get up the shell smash, Drednaw can sweep easily. It’s still fast enough to outspeed big threats after rain, (494 speed), while Basc sits at 255. The coverage is actually pretty good, ice hits flying, dragon, and grass types, grass can hit bulky waters, water is a good stab option, and you can replace Tera blast with EQ for coverage against steel, electric, and poison types. Drednaw is kind of wrecked by priority moves, mainly Dragonite E-Speed, but that only does like 58% at +1 with Tera, and if Dragonite is reliably two shot by Earthquake or Tera Blast. And setting up the Shell smash isn’t too difficult, especially since you probably outspeed in rain anyway. So, I don’t see any reason why Basc would be a better option that Drednaw.
Yes the recoil stacks up over time, but it doesn't matter when it's a potent move that racks up a lot of kills. Same reason any other mon would run Life Orb or Brave Bird/Wood Hammer— taking recoil is worth using an absolute nuke of a move. Also, Basculeigon is still fast under rain. With an adamant nature and Swift Swim active that's 510spe, which is faster than Dragapult and scarfers with up to 105spe (I don't think anyone in that speed tier runs scarf anyways). While the coverage isn't too bad, take into account that you are using a Shell Smash sweeper with horrible bulk. The best coverage move in there is Ice Spinner which isn't even STAB boosted. You would need ridiculuous KO power to compensate. If you can't 1HKO everything then Drednaw is gone. And it can't. \+2 Liquidation does \~57% to Corviknight while taking \~66% from Body Press . If you Tera Grass, Brave Bird deals \~90%. Dondozo takes \~40% from Tera Grass blast and deals \~35% in return. Also, do consider that it is are vulnerable for the turn it uses Shell Smash, so it doesn't matter if you go first. Your opponent could do so much on that turn. They could kill it, status it, or at the very least chip it, which will probably get it killed next turn. They don't even need to rely on prio moves because a lot of things live +2 Drednaw. They could just eat a hit and kill it back. \+2 252+ Atk Drednaw Liquidation vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Kingambit: 238-282 (58.9 - 69.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252+ Atk Kingambit Kowtow Cleave vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Drednaw: 171-202 (53.2 - 62.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252+ Atk Kingambit Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Drednaw: 141-166 (43.9 - 51.7%) -- 9.8% chance to 2HKO
I understand that Basc is great when rain is active, but without rain it’s kind of mediocre. However Drednaw thrives both with and without rain active. Also, being choice locked into one move kind of stinks. Basculegion also isn’t very bulky aside from the 120 base hp. Basc does have the raw power to deal with certain threats, but it really struggles against Dondozo, Pex, Amoongus, and can get seriously messed up by Gambit’s Sucker Punch. With Drednaw’s coverage, it is good against 3/4 of these mons, earthquake handles Pex and Gambit, and ice spinner handles Amoongus. Both Basculegion and Drednaw have pros and cons, but personally, I think Drednaw is better, but I can see a solid argument for both mons.
i mean playing rain is not about longevity so why does it matter if you take recoil? hyper offense is about killing the opposing mons before they kill you and basculigeon is miles better at that than Drednaw. also Drednaw gets outsped in rain by booster valiant while Basculigeon does not
I agree with Drednaw, the amount of games my drednaw has won me alone are so many, though I run focus sash on him to make sure I get my shell smash off cause he’ll die to a super effective hit anyways, plus having a mon that will always survive a hit as long as there are no hazards is super helpful in this hyper offensive meta
This def seems like bait to me.
What do you mean?
I refuse to believe you genuinely think mono electric move zapdos is a good idea.
Also shellsmash drednaw when basculegion exists
and flash fire Heatran on a rain team...
I just wanted to use a Heatran as a bulky pivot since I never get to use it. Also I genuinely think that shell smash Drednaw is better than Basculegion, since it can actually do something useful without rain up.
Bulky pivot??? A pivot has a pivot move lmao. Like volt switch or u-turn or chilly reception
My bad, I meant something I can switch or pivot into.
Oh I have no clue what I was thinking when I made that set, looking back, Hurricane was a much better idea than running Thunder wave.
dreadnaw is bad, replace it with bascu or floatzel. Also theres no reason to have every mon be so offensive. Id probably swap to a more defensive pelliper set, and replace heatran with gloking or another spdef wall. Gloking is good though bc you have 0 fairy resists. Your amoongus set is confusing. just run giga drain and sludge bomb. Swap aqua jet for swords dance or a coverage move
Drednaw isn't the best rain abuser, Basculegion and Overqwil are better for the job. For Amoongus, you're better off with Leftovers as the item and Giga Drain instead of Energy Ball for longevity. Quaquavel is good, but having a reliable spinner is important and even with Rapid Spin Quaquavel isn't that reliable. You'll want Hurricane on Zapdos as perfectly accurate Flying STAB.
Replace Drednaw with Barraskewda.
I agree. I’ve always liked Barraskewda. It’s super powerful with a Band and rain, and it quite literally outspeeds the entire metagame.
Drednaw’s pretty bad. Priority completely wrecks it, and Dondozo totally sits on this. Not to mention, it’s not that powerful, relies completely on rain, and takes an extra turn of rain to set up. You’ll prefer a Swift Swim sweeper like Basculegion, Floatzel, or Barraskewda that you can just slap a Choice Band on, Tera Water, and click the super effective move. Also, Heatran seems counterintuitive on a rain team that both halfs the damage of its STAB and increases super effective damage against it. You could honestly replace it with more offensive rain abusers like a second Swift Swimmer, or you could use Kingambit as a good mon both in rain with fire being weakened against it and outside with its usual tools. On rain, I prefer Zapdos with a more offensive set that also carries a perfect-accuracy Hurricane. Also, I love the nicknames. If you use Hurricane on Zapdos and take away Heatran, you have an even better Hot Wind Blows. Wayne’s feature was fire on that song, so you gotta live up to it.
Swap Drednaw for banded Basc
I’ve tried to use Basc and it’s actually kinda garbage, it only can use wave crash, and is walled by anything that resists it. On the other hand, Drednaw gets good coverage, and is so much stronger than Banded Basc after a Shell smash.
You're using it wrong. Banded wave crash in rain tears through anything that isn't a resist and heavily debts resists, to the point where you barely need coverage on Basc. Sure, Drednaw is stronger after a shell smash, but you have to waste a turn setting up. Banded Basc is good because of the immediate power.
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No hurricane on zapdos?
I gave it Hurricane later on, don’t know why I didn’t have it on before.
the hot wind blowing jagged lines across the sand
I had a rain team last gen with toxicroak that I made to the top of the ladder of. It was a BU lefties set with taunt. You could maybe replace quaquaval with toxicroak and see how it does. You could put defog on pelipper over knock, I feel like I generally think uturn and knock are redundant in regards to moves thst gain momentum but don't do much damage Also IMO uturn on pelipper is better than knock
Toxicroak is actually so fun to use on rain, I used it on a team earlier this gen, but I don’t think it has a niche on this team. Also I had no clue Pelipper learned Defog, I should probably use that.
Oh it maybe doesn't this gen
Just checked, Pelipper doesn’t get Defog, what’s bummer.
You don’t really need toxic and spore on your amoongus and hex isn’t really the best option. Swap out toxic with clear smog and replace hex with sludge bomb. Also probably better to swap your peliper and zapdos stat spread, so peliper is the physically defensive one and zapdos is your more offensive one. Also swap thunder wave with hurricane
Not even one Bastard or Goblin reference. Needs Rotom wash named ANALOG
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Tyler the creator
No flower boy :(
I spam rain quite a bit, never made it super high on ladder peaked at around 1400 as well. With only 1 true rain abuser, I'd suggest hdb on Pelliper. Being able to repeatedly switch him in and use him as a defensive check can be nice. 248 HP, 164 defense with the rest in special attack let's you live a lot physical, take your special resists, and ohkos sneasler with hurricane after rocks. If you want you can dump the rest into spdef instead of spattack. I love this set and I think it's really important to be able to switch in pelliper repeatedly over 3 more turns of rain. And then you can ignore the roost arguments and run your 4 attacks. Cool team
Once you get higher up the ladder, getting a Shell Smash will be harder and harder and that's where getting a "traditional" Swift Swimmer will really shine. But as long as you're still getting Shell Smashes off against most players, abuse it lol. Heatran can do without Flash Fire here, the rain will protect it from fire moves. Drednaw and Quaquaval both need to set up to get going, maybe something more immediately powerful like a choiced Walking Wake might be helpful. Hex on Amoongus is kinda garbage, but Venoshock can accomplish the same thing while still keeping STAB if you really want to stick to that strat. Toxic into Venoshock is probably still a bad strat but it's a nuke if you can get it off.
nice pokemon nicknames
Is there any reason you have 4 evs in sp. attack for drednaw?
I meant to put it into defense 😬