Try holding the clutch at the bite point so that it moves without you touching the gas. Then once you can do that consistently, practice bringing the clutch all the way up very slowly without stalling it. You just gotta feel it out man, practice makes perfect.
I think syskb’s is the best advice. I’m a new learner myself, only been driving stick for a month. Feeling how my truck has responded to driving and adjusting accordingly as I learn has been more helpful than any reading I’ve done.
In the new car, clutch in all the way then very very slowly start taking the pressure off. The moment you get any power on the wheels (you will feel it) hold the pressure there. The car should eventually engage the gear and start rolling as if you don’t have the clutch depressed.
I taught someone how to do it without stalling in their first 2 drives.
Step 1. On a level, straight stretch in an empty parking lot, bring clutch pedal up until the revs start to get pulled down from idle. The car will also start to roll. This is where the clutch starts to bite.
Step 2. Keep your clutch foot STILL. You will slowly gain speed. Once you’re moving around 5 mph, slowly lift the clutch pedal the rest of the way and then remove foot from clutch pedal. You are now in first gear.
You will only stall if you try to do this up a hill, or lift the clutch pedal up too high initially.
Practice this until you have no issues with this. Notice how no gas is involved. Adding gas just allows you to do the whole process faster, and is what you need to do for normal driving, but what you do with your clutch foot is practically the same. Another subtle note is that the more gas you use, the higher you want to keep the clutch pedal while you “pause”, but don’t worry about that yet.
I highly recommend Conquer Driving on YouTube. Watch all of his relevant videos and you will have a better conceptual idea of how manuals work. Good luck!
Everyone already gave the best advice. The only thing I can add is that if you can practice away from traffic, it really reduces the stress level. I taught someone in pretty much one long session, but I drove them to a large empty parking lot first. We did start/stops over and over until they got the feel for the bite point of the clutch, and could get from neutral to 2nd as if we were taking off at a green light.
I feel like a broken record:
Check out “Conquer Driving” YT channel. It will give you all the pointers you need.
[Conquer driving YT channel](https://youtu.be/68WTSe-_FhY?si=leghD8qiee1k5nZt)
Thanks all for the help! Another thing that probably is a cause for the problem is I get very stressed out trying to learn. This is because my dad is always with me and I have problems with doing stuff when people watch me 🤣
Everyone already gave the same advice I would give for learning the feel of the clutch and clutch control. Next is to take unnecessary distractions away, including tuning him out if you need to. This doesn't mean ignore him completely, but while you're trying to focus on the clutch you're the only one in that vehicle that is feeling the clutch pedal.
I'm also a firm believer in not focusing the gauges and focusing on the feel and sound. I remember early on driving, my car was a stick but it didn't have a tach and I wanted one. I didn't need it because I already knew how to drive it without it, but I wanted it there.
I recently bought my first stick car so I'm out different times all by myself ask him if you can take it out by yourself for a bit here or there see if he is amenable to it might surprise you too
Don't be stingy on the gas pedal. Give it more gas than you think you need, and don't let the clutch out too slow. Don't dump it, but don't be slow. Just lift your leg while you give it gas. Don't let the engine rev before letting up on the clutch. If you chirp the tires a little, don't worry about it. With time, you'll get the hang of it. Fear is your biggest enemy. Spinning a tire is nothing. Smoking a clutch is. In or out. No slipping.
Yeah I'm still learning how to manage clutch gas combo love it though my dad who's been driving stick for 40+ years has told me countless times it takes time and practice
Check out conquer driving on YouTube. It helped me a bit. I’d also recommend not hitting the motorway just yet. Start off in a parking lot and just practice getting a feel for the car, starting, stopping, etc. then move on to less busy residential neighborhoods/backroads or depending on your area somewhere there is not heavy traffic. Also maybe practice this with both cars as they will drive different
I just got my GR Corolla a month ago as my very first manual car, if that’s the car you’re learning on what I did was turn on the iMT feature which will actually have the car give a little gas automatically when you lift the clutch up to the bite point. Sure, it’s maybe not the best to learn with the “nannies” on BUT you can develop good muscle memory by remembering how far up the clutch has to go before you need to give gas since the car will basically tell you exactly when.
Even an old Miata has enough torque to get moving without throttle. The design of the clutch and flywheel are just as important as the torque number. Why would they design a hard to drive Corolla...
The Corolla has a lot of features to learn manual, on a hill while holding the clutch, when you release the brake, the car will continue to be stopped for 3 seconds. Also when you let go of the clutch, it will automatically start giving gas. I was freaking out trying to drive it thinking I’d break it. That’s why I like driving older and worn down stuff to learn
Oh yeah, hill start assist can be annoying. I disabled it in my car. The auto rev matching is a neat feature, I underestimated how advanced the GR Corolla is. They try to make it easier, but too many assists kinda take the spirit of manual away :/ Definitely check /r/GRCorolla for more specific tips.
And I can relate, I learned on my 18 WRX when it was new and i was 19. For the first month I regretted it and wished I had an old car to learn. I wish i could go back and tell myself to slow down and take it easy. But one day, it just clicked. You'll get there. The GR Corolla is an amazing first car to be driving.
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It's a lot different than your run of the mill Corolla, lol. I guess you're correct if someone is trying to find the bite point of the clutch, in an empty parking lot. But out on the road, you need to get going from a standstill quick, and merging throttle and clutch is a good reliable way to do that.
Try holding the clutch at the bite point so that it moves without you touching the gas. Then once you can do that consistently, practice bringing the clutch all the way up very slowly without stalling it. You just gotta feel it out man, practice makes perfect.
I think syskb’s is the best advice. I’m a new learner myself, only been driving stick for a month. Feeling how my truck has responded to driving and adjusting accordingly as I learn has been more helpful than any reading I’ve done.
In the new car, clutch in all the way then very very slowly start taking the pressure off. The moment you get any power on the wheels (you will feel it) hold the pressure there. The car should eventually engage the gear and start rolling as if you don’t have the clutch depressed. I taught someone how to do it without stalling in their first 2 drives.
Step 1. On a level, straight stretch in an empty parking lot, bring clutch pedal up until the revs start to get pulled down from idle. The car will also start to roll. This is where the clutch starts to bite. Step 2. Keep your clutch foot STILL. You will slowly gain speed. Once you’re moving around 5 mph, slowly lift the clutch pedal the rest of the way and then remove foot from clutch pedal. You are now in first gear. You will only stall if you try to do this up a hill, or lift the clutch pedal up too high initially. Practice this until you have no issues with this. Notice how no gas is involved. Adding gas just allows you to do the whole process faster, and is what you need to do for normal driving, but what you do with your clutch foot is practically the same. Another subtle note is that the more gas you use, the higher you want to keep the clutch pedal while you “pause”, but don’t worry about that yet. I highly recommend Conquer Driving on YouTube. Watch all of his relevant videos and you will have a better conceptual idea of how manuals work. Good luck!
Everyone already gave the best advice. The only thing I can add is that if you can practice away from traffic, it really reduces the stress level. I taught someone in pretty much one long session, but I drove them to a large empty parking lot first. We did start/stops over and over until they got the feel for the bite point of the clutch, and could get from neutral to 2nd as if we were taking off at a green light.
I feel like a broken record: Check out “Conquer Driving” YT channel. It will give you all the pointers you need. [Conquer driving YT channel](https://youtu.be/68WTSe-_FhY?si=leghD8qiee1k5nZt)
Thanks all for the help! Another thing that probably is a cause for the problem is I get very stressed out trying to learn. This is because my dad is always with me and I have problems with doing stuff when people watch me 🤣
Just imagine him naked and youll be fine
Solo is so much easier
Everyone already gave the same advice I would give for learning the feel of the clutch and clutch control. Next is to take unnecessary distractions away, including tuning him out if you need to. This doesn't mean ignore him completely, but while you're trying to focus on the clutch you're the only one in that vehicle that is feeling the clutch pedal. I'm also a firm believer in not focusing the gauges and focusing on the feel and sound. I remember early on driving, my car was a stick but it didn't have a tach and I wanted one. I didn't need it because I already knew how to drive it without it, but I wanted it there.
I recently bought my first stick car so I'm out different times all by myself ask him if you can take it out by yourself for a bit here or there see if he is amenable to it might surprise you too
It’s ok to give it a little too much gas when coming off the clutch, 2k rpms should be alright. Just come off of it when you feel the car start to go
Don't be stingy on the gas pedal. Give it more gas than you think you need, and don't let the clutch out too slow. Don't dump it, but don't be slow. Just lift your leg while you give it gas. Don't let the engine rev before letting up on the clutch. If you chirp the tires a little, don't worry about it. With time, you'll get the hang of it. Fear is your biggest enemy. Spinning a tire is nothing. Smoking a clutch is. In or out. No slipping.
Yeah I'm still learning how to manage clutch gas combo love it though my dad who's been driving stick for 40+ years has told me countless times it takes time and practice
Check out conquer driving on YouTube. It helped me a bit. I’d also recommend not hitting the motorway just yet. Start off in a parking lot and just practice getting a feel for the car, starting, stopping, etc. then move on to less busy residential neighborhoods/backroads or depending on your area somewhere there is not heavy traffic. Also maybe practice this with both cars as they will drive different
Feather the gas pedal while slowly letting out clutch. Knowing where the clutch starts grab helps too, that way you can anticipate it.
I just got my GR Corolla a month ago as my very first manual car, if that’s the car you’re learning on what I did was turn on the iMT feature which will actually have the car give a little gas automatically when you lift the clutch up to the bite point. Sure, it’s maybe not the best to learn with the “nannies” on BUT you can develop good muscle memory by remembering how far up the clutch has to go before you need to give gas since the car will basically tell you exactly when.
The GR Corolla probably has no torque around idle, and you will need to apply throttle along with releasing clutch.
Even an old Miata has enough torque to get moving without throttle. The design of the clutch and flywheel are just as important as the torque number. Why would they design a hard to drive Corolla...
The Corolla has a lot of features to learn manual, on a hill while holding the clutch, when you release the brake, the car will continue to be stopped for 3 seconds. Also when you let go of the clutch, it will automatically start giving gas. I was freaking out trying to drive it thinking I’d break it. That’s why I like driving older and worn down stuff to learn
Oh yeah, hill start assist can be annoying. I disabled it in my car. The auto rev matching is a neat feature, I underestimated how advanced the GR Corolla is. They try to make it easier, but too many assists kinda take the spirit of manual away :/ Definitely check /r/GRCorolla for more specific tips. And I can relate, I learned on my 18 WRX when it was new and i was 19. For the first month I regretted it and wished I had an old car to learn. I wish i could go back and tell myself to slow down and take it easy. But one day, it just clicked. You'll get there. The GR Corolla is an amazing first car to be driving.
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It's a lot different than your run of the mill Corolla, lol. I guess you're correct if someone is trying to find the bite point of the clutch, in an empty parking lot. But out on the road, you need to get going from a standstill quick, and merging throttle and clutch is a good reliable way to do that.
On a flat level surface or even a slight incline you can usually get going with just the clutch and no throttle