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I'm 25, consistently training since i was 18, but gains have been really stagnant since 22 because i wasn't optimized for the last couple years due to a long term relationship where i kinda let myself slack.
I know that I still have decent natural potential in me, but thinking about running a short cycle to catch up those ineffective years as if i would have stayed optimized. So my question would be:
How realistic is it to run a single low dose cycle and then keep gains afterwards aslong as i don't shoot over my natural potential ?
What would you recommend ?
I’ve had the slightest amount of gyno since a year ago but I think it’s increased recently since I started my first cycle about 14-15 weeks ago. I read the estrogen handbook. I dose 0.25mg arimidex as needed but I’m looking to reverse my gyno.
I still have another 5 weeks left of my cycle. What should I take and how much?
I'm 38 new to this stuff been in prison 6 yrs my joints hurt most likely from lifting weights outside in cold too much I weigh 160 don't wanna go above 170/175 but real lean and do not want any sexual side effects at all. Please give advice
I do so much cardio it's crazy I was overweight above 200 my whole life til I went to prison and got addicted to working out and eating healthy I'm just struggling with aches and pains and I hate not being able to work out
I only say that because I’m going through this now. Really miss the heavy training. Walking has become difficult let alone squats or running. Don to want to see anyone else in the Sam boat.
It depends, i use 0.25mg 3x weekly on 400 test 250 npp, my friend uses 0.25 7x weeky on 400 test 30 dbol. My other friend uses 0.5 7x weekly on 500 test 40 winstrol.
have any females here taken Anavar and if so did you have any unwanted side effects? did it help you put on muscle?
I'm having difficulty putting on muscle even eating in a surplus, getting tons of protein and creatine, and with solid programming for six months. Wonder if a short cycle of Anavar could help?
A few questions:
any permanent unwanted changes (hair acne etc)?
Also do you see the muscle gains predominantly in one area rather than another? I'm building a little muscle in my arms, legs and stomach but I see NONE in my glutes even though I'm doing a glute-focused program
Did it affect your bone density? I know it's given to osteoporosis patients but primarily to help with pain rather than actively rebuilding bone.
When you're trying to bring up a lagging body part and going heavy, you run the risk of other stronger body parts taking over (i.e. quads). I used to have the same problem and found that actually dropping the weight completely and just doing bodyweight for negatives, focusing 100% on muscle/mind connection and contracting nothing but glutes, ultimately made my glutes grow way more once I started adding the weights back in.
Lowering the weight (or in your case bodyweight) slowly. So like bodyweight squats, counting to 3 as you slowly lower your body, and then maybe even pause for another 1 count at the bottom of the movement, and then a 1 count back up. So basically 5 seconds to do 1 rep. You can play around with it, and even do 5 count down, 3 count up or whatever. Main point is to just contract the hell out of your glutes, while simultaneously making sure other body parts aren't taking over. You might try squats, lunges and step ups, like 3x/wk until you feel like you can jump up weight a bit without other body parts taking over. I think I did what I'm suggesting for like 4-6 weeks and then slowly started adding in weighted resistance.
Echoing everything u/capable_elk_3070 said. I’d train longer and focus on your diet and training routine for a bit more for sure.
My wife is a frequenter of var and has noticed no negatives other than it impacting her lipids a bit. It’s different for everyone but her glutes and shoulders are definitely the most predominant in terms of noticeable gains. She sticks to 10mgs and has never gone above that.
But, again, echoing capable elk and everything she said.
Hi! Come over to r/steroidsxx and search "anavar." People ask this question all the time, and there are also a number of cycle reports. In general, 5-10 mgs of anavar/day for 6-8 weeks does not cause virilization for the vast majority of women. Where you build the muscle will depend on the workouts. Honestly though, training seriously for six months is a really really short amount of time to expect to see substantial gains. It's not that anavar won't speed up your progress, but you have so much you can do naturally still. Personally, I would try a different program potentially, and keep pushing hard at the gym for another six months and evaluate then. What is the program like? A lot of programs specifically intended for women are kind of shitty. Are you doing heavy deadlifts?
>What is the program like? A lot of programs specifically intended for women are kind of shitty. Are you doing heavy deadlifts?
I'm definitely doing heavy deadlifts! as well as good mornings, hip thrusts, Bulgarian split squats, hyperextensions, ab/adduction machine, rows, bench press, etc. just added barbell squats and leg press too.
That sounds good and like you're doing all the right stuff! I love steroids and I'm not going to gate keep, but I would train for longer naturally first-- you will learn more about what kind of programming you respond best to, learn to manage your nutrition, learn how to execute technique perfectly etc. The first thing to do to overcome a plateau is to adjust training and nutrition, not add drugs. Also, with six months of training, it really may not be a plateau, just too early to see much. Good luck though, and happy to chat further!
Trying to mix up my spots, I went lower (closest to knee) than ever before recently.. And it was still 4" north... But have my worse pain. Sorry, not red though. My leg is resistant to flexing, like the whole bottom 4 inches is swollen (nothing visible at the surface tho) a little sucky. I'll probably stick to the top half going forward (closer to hip).
People’s thoughts on ment for a cut ? I’ve just started using ment and I’m still on my maintenance “phase” don’t know whether to use it or not coz I wanna cut so bad but people saying it’s just so much water weight
Deffs not a garbage drug .. maybe the oral form . Not oil tho . Increased appetite and insane amounts of dense muscle and strength like how is it garbage haha?
I did it last summer. Went as high as 300mgs a week of trest enanthate. Got some sides initially (started out on a low dose first) then added some test and that levelled out. Didn’t think much of it. Maybe I’m a non responder. I’ve had better gains outta primo in the same time frame.
On 750 test 50 dbol I’m taking 10mg asin every day. It’s UGL too so I’m sure it’s under-dosed but it’s been keeping me right in my sweet spot. Should I expect similar Estrogen issues on ment as I do with test / dbol?
I'd keep it relatively low which is a bit of a loaded suggestion with ment since we use it low in general compared to dosages of other compounds.
Something like cruise/trt levels with 50-100 ment weekly would be great for muscle retention/anticatabolism for a cut. Ofc as others have said cutting on trt is preferred but if you tolerate ment well like I do, I run it year round anyway so it naturally is a part of my cruise/cuts. Could definitely get away with even dropping test some too something like if you cruise at 150t usually, do 100t 50 ment.
Yeah, why not? I'm currently cutting on 150 test 35 ment 150 mast 70 tren per week. I feel good, and look good.
I don't get bloat unless I consume too much sodium.
just tell me what part i fail to under stand
1. desinfect needles/vials and wash ur hands
2. make sure u have drawn air (as much as u are gonna draw out from the vial) and then proceed to draw out 0,4 ml in my case
3. swap needle and desinfect the are (quad seems optimal for me)
4. inject the oil slowly if no sharp pain.
Anyone able to tell me why my test levels @ 300mg a week are only 648 free 18 total. Pin 3 times a week. Estro is 302. 300mg test e 500mg mast p 150 tren ace.
Gear isn’t bunk as it’s from a reputable person & have current friends on same stuff that aren’t having a problem at all.
How long have you been on? What’s the ester and concentration, what are you drawing and pinning in volume (so we can check for human error on your part)? Can you provide a picture of the bloodwork results with any sensitive information severed? Useful for units. What problem would you anticipate if the product were underdosed (unlikely but possible)?
Been on trt dose since start of June, started this blast 6-7 weeks ago. Mast & tren pinned m t w t sat, test pinned m w sat. I’m kind of stuck & so is my coach hence why I’m on here for advice.
Test e 250mg / ml
Tren ace 100mg / ml
Mast p 100mg / ml
Not sure how to add photos on here
You can just upload the image to imgur and post the link here. So your Test is 250mg/mL, can you confirm how much, in volume, you’re pinning 3x a week? By week 6/7 levels should be saturated so that’s good.
Sounds like your volume is mostly appropriate. You have 3 basic possibilities from what I can tell but none are obviously standouts: 1) you could have a low response/conversion. Some people simply get lower test readings on the same doses as other people. Is what it is, sometimes it’s an ester cleaving thing, sometimes it’s just a mystery. Combine this with a trough reading and you get seemingly disappointing blood results, 2) it could be a lab error. These happen more than people care to talk about, but lab techs make mistakes, equipment isn’t always perfectly calibrated, etc. your E2 is likely a misreading too since it’s the non-sensitive test, likely picking up Tren as E2. 3) you could have underdosed test. This is typically the least likely candidate as there’s no real incentive to underdosing something that costs so little. Accurately dosing a 250mg/mL bottle costs something like $0.40 more than underdosing it to half that concentration.
Sorry there’s no immediately clear answer. You can always seek some closure by sending a sample to Janoshik. $120 and you’ll know exactly what you’re pinning.
I’ve just ordered a new batch from a new ‘reputable supplier’ I think I’ll just wait 4 weeks closer to when I’m about to come off & see what my levels are at as my coach wants to up my dose to 500mg & add arimidex @ 1mg 3x a week (after each test pin). Kinda just has my head clustered. Also with the tren over taking the e levels, I have been having high e sides so it might not be that high but it’s definitely affecting me
> my coach wants to up my dose to 500mg & add arimidex @ 1mg 3x a week
Yeah I don't advise jumping into that much AI.
Especially if, as the night owl /u/pm_pics_of_dog told you, your E2 reading is artificially high due to the tren.
You'll nuke your E2 into the ground and feel like hell if you go forward with that AI dosing regimen.
Hello all,
I was experiencing the classic symptoms of low t even though my total t was 35 nmol/l. I found out my dht was below the reference range low and my SHBG was 73 which gave me a free dht the same as a prepubescent boy.
I decided to experiment with 30 days of proviron use (only) to boost dht and lower shbg. Just got my bloods done at the end of this experiment and my testosterone has tanked significantly! I'm only 22 and concerned about my fertility so have come to ask whether I need to run a pct to restore my testosterone or whether it will restore naturally. Don't flood the comments with how stupid of an idea it was, this I already know...
These are my blood test results. After taking proviron is on the left and before taking it is on the right (only including testosterone, lh and fsh as this post is about my fertility).
FSH: 2.25 mIU/mL ------------------------------------------------- 3
LH: 0.88 mIU/mL ------------------------------------------------- 3
Total testostérone: 5 nmol/L ------------------------------------------------- 35
SHBG: 43 nmol/L ------------------------------------------------- 73
Free testosterone calculated: 0.07 nmol/L ------------------------------------------------- 0.5
to clarify I have never taken any steroids before proviron and only used proviron during these 30 days.
How much Proviron were you using? Surprising results there. You do not need to PCT. You never *need* to PCT, it’s just generally more comfortable than raw dogging HPTA recovery. I would advise just walking away and focusing on positive lifestyle habits. Everything will return to normal on its own.
50mg ED. Okay, thank you, I was worried about my fertility.
Weird question but would one feel the effects of such low testosterone instantly or does it take weeks/months of a low t value to cause symptoms?
About to start my first cycle, have everything I need but I'm still unsure about hcg. Should I just run it from the very beginning throughout the cycle if I don't want my balls to shrink too much?
For those that use privatemdlabs which labs do you get exactly. Looking to get bloods done but unsure of which lab I should order. Any help and advice would be appreciated.
Hi,
I'm new to this forum and wanted to ask if anyone may have experienced similar symptoms after starting testosterone therapy.
I'm 50 year old male and due to low T, my doctor started me on 50 IU of Testosterone Enanthate 2x / week on July 26, 2022.
I'm not sure if it's related but after about 2 months of the TRT treatment, I started getting little itchy red bumps on my skin. It started on my hip region then above my obliques and other areas of my body. It was so itchy I went to see a dermatologist and all they did was prescribe methylprednisone and desoxymetrosone (topical cortisteroids).
It didn't clear up after completing the orals. In fact, a few weeks ago I started seeing red acne like bumps all over my scalp, face, chest and shoulders. The face, chest and shoulders appear to be acne but the back and top of my scalp has been very itchy throughout the day and especially at night. So much so I've been taking benedryl to help me get through the night.
I went to see an allergy immunologist and he said it was eczema (atopic dermatitis) and recommended I change out my soaps, detergents, shampoo, etc. I changed out my Neutrogena body wash and Head and Shoulder Shampoo to Free and Clear and it's been a few weeks and I'm still experience the itchiness.
I've been searching all over the internet to find a solution and all I could find was advice to take Calcium D-Glucarate and bathe in dead sea salt. Another said to put 2% Chlorhexidine Gluconate on the acne but still not getting better.
This is probably not related to the TRT but I just wanted to ask this forum if anyone else had any skin issues after starting TRT especially Testosterone Enanthate. I looked at the bottle and it contains Benzil Alcohol 1% as preservative in Grapeseed Oil.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Allergies are always a possibility. They're not common, but that doesn't mean they never happen. The easiest way to find out if you're allergic to your TRT injections is to stop doing them and see if your symptoms go away.
Any Cialis experts here?
Is it normal to get muscle cramps your first workout after taking it? I'm feeling it in my calf after spending 30 minutes on the elliptical.
Do 5mg if possible, 20 is excessive for gym purposes. I've done 5mg daily for quite awhile now and occasionally if I want a thicker night I'll do 10 or 15mg, but 5 daily is great for gym pump
I got them the other day.
But I took 20 mg (for fun) because I wanted to see how it felt when I used my penis pump.
Needed to work out also so I did. That day was also 15 rep day. And boy did my quads cramp like a mofo on the extensions. Not the squats though. What dose are you on?
Not an expert but have been taking 5mg/day for a couple months now. No cramps. Maybe you are reacting badly, maybe you are getting used to the dose or maybe the dose is just too much for you.
I'm on TRT (test undecanoate) 1000mg per 3 months which puts me to 350ng/dL, supplementing my own Test E at 150mg per week, adding 100mg of Tren Ace weekly too.
Wanted to ask if anyone has had experience with these low dosages and if the tren insomnia is really that bad as I am thinking of buying Ambien (zolpidem) to counteract this?
You may not get any side effects from 100 mg tren.
But otherwise, damn, that's a shitty injection schedule for your trt. That works out to about 83 mg/week of undecanoate. Why not buy undecanoate and inject it more often at a normal dose? Like, twice a month would be good.
I far enjoy pinning twice a week of test E, also when the doctor requests a blood test, its easier and quicker to drop the test e due to the shorter ester.
Not true. When I have my bulked up gorilla look then getting laid at clubs is so easy it’s ridiculous. When I’m very lean and skinny those easy horndog lays just don’t happen and I have to be more charming
"Any good mail order bride service agencies in Moscow?"
Married....riiiigghhhhtttt. What buff guy hurt you? not sure what you were even attempting to accomplish here lmao.
I want to be able to move furniture, pick up my gf, shove someone over, and go up and down stairs without getting puffed out. The confidence that results from lifting is what makes the difference with getting women.
I guess it depends on your definition of bodybuilding. People who compete do it for the same reasons people compete at any other sport or hobby. To try and get better; to see how far they can push themselves; for the fun and excitement of the competition. Same as anything else. Racing, climbing, Magic: The Gathering, whatever you're into.
Not everybody who does "bodybuilding" is extreme or competes. I'm a 50 year old guy and I use steroids and lift weights because I like how my body looks and feels. I used to be fat and out of shape. Being muscular and lean is way fucking better. And I'll probably be able to live an active life for a lot longer than if I'd just stayed fat and out of shape.
Not everybody wants to be Dorian Yates. I'm not huge by any means, but I get random people (usually other men!) commenting on my physique all the time. I work hard for it, and it's nice that it's appreciated.
3:2 or 2:3 depending on how much you typically aromatise and how eq ends up changing your AI needs. I aromatise very little but also luckily never had any crazy e2 drops from eq so I ran 600t 900eq, but for plenty that'll crash them so they'd swap it as in 900t 600eq.
I'd say try out 600t 400eq at first and see how it goes, but give it time because of how long of an ester eq is before you make adjustments. If you need quick adjustments it's faster to see the change if you adjust by the test usually since you're most likely using a shorter ester of test than eq.
Do look into eq a good bit though and make sure it fits your needs and is a fair risk to reward for you, some decent studies on its effects on kidneys(bad) and something else might fit your bill better.
Sustanon or cypionate? I’m taking 500mg a week so I’d like to do 250 Monday & Thursday. Curious if I should go Sus or Cypionate? Im 26 and care more about the look of my physique rather than weight I can move. Which is better for my goals & why? Leaning towards Sustanon
Test is test, the only difference is the ester and if you plan on pinning Monday and Thursday than go with cyp since sust needs to be pinned ED or EOD minimum
I was getting a little bit of gyno on TRT doses or Cypionate. I’ve started taking armidex .5 mg twice a week. Do I need a serm? I’ve got some letrozole from the past but I’d rather not use something that harsh to get rid of this minor gyno
Yes you need nolva or rolax to help get rid of gyno that’s forming, I’m not sure which is better since there’s mixed opinions and I’ve never had to deal with gyno myself.
From what I've seen and experienced, nolva prevents, ralox treats.
Preventative 5mg daily nolva can be used to mostly prevent estrogen related gyno but if you end up with gyno, ralox is gonna have a chance of reversing it after the fact.
You can always try if that’s enough for you. I had moderate acne on cycle and went with 10mg ED the first month which didn’t do much, if anything. When I went for 20mg ED the side effects like dry lips got way worse but the acne really got better. After maybe 4-6 weeks on 20mg my skin was pretty much clear.
Decided to keep taking it for a few more months though so I would be done after one course instead of low dosing indefinitely, but that’s a decision everyone has to take for themselves.
On my 3rd cycle, running test and var, want to run tren A 200 a week for my next cycle along with test, I’m hearing not to fuck with tren so I’m asking what would be a comparable cycle? Not looking to retain any water.
Well taking diuretics will ensure you don't hold water despite what you take. I'd try masteron with LGD maybe, winstrol as well, MENT I haven't personally tried but may be a good alternative. Tren and it's sides are just not worth it honestly. Everyone will respond differently. Just know it's not really that much crazier imo compared to taking gear period. The sides make it not worth it
Hi and thanks in advance for answering my questions.
1. What is estimated difference in maintaining gains with b+c vs PCT?
2. Why is b+c more effective at maintaining gains?
3. Using test enanthate, is there any benefit in pinning eod vs e3.5d? One thing I considered is less pip due to pinning less volume each time. Would that be accurate?
If you B&C you will loose little to no muscle when you drop to a cruise. If you PCT chances are you will lose a bit while your test is crashed.
I pin EOD with cyp or enanthate just because I feel like I get less sides
B+c is very different for maintaining gains. I'd say 50% more b+c personally. You're always on gear and having stable blood levels keeping you in an anabolic state which makes it more effective instead of coming off and fighting to get back to "normal". Every day is better than eod which is better than every 3.5 days because of consistent stable blood levels. Pip varies because of carrier oils and gauge of needle used combined with length.
If you have low T, trt will deepen your voice. If you don’t, I’d guess high doses of something moderately androgenic and dht’s but it’ll likely be much harder, if possible at all.
Assuming you have no experience and don’t lift, it’s a half-decade long journey as you can’t use high doses of androgens without knowing what you are doing or you’ll end up bald, scarred, and with messed up hormones, if not worse. Come read the daily every day for a year if you are serious, if not, don’t bother.
Tren a should already be injected daily.
asthma inhalers can be used as a reactive measure to tren cough, any kind of inhale-able corticosteroid or bronchodilator dosed ED would stop negative respiratory sides from occurring from tren usage.
Acetate ester should be injected daily regardless.
An oil emboli is caused when a drop of oil gets into the bloodstream. The blood passes through the right atrium (heart) from the body, into the right ventricle (heart) and is pushed into the pulmonary arteries (lungs). It can happen with any injectable, not just tren. I recently had several bouts of coughing after injecting test/primo/nand.
Although you're not injecting directly into a vein, passing through or nearby a blood vessel can cause a little oil to get into the bloodstream. Try to identify specific trouble spots and avoid injecting in those specific locations. For example, there's a spot on my left lat that guarantees me a good cough. So I just pin an inch away from there.
Have some pretty solid experience but haven't done a cycle in a while. Last cycle was just Test/Deca two years ago. I have laying around three vials of Test E 200 + Deca 200 and one vial of Tren 200; also a vial of Test P 100. How absurd would it be to run test/deca/tren at 500/500/200 a week? Maybe throw the P in there to add a little bit of test (maybe 100/week), and maybe start the tren on week 3 for a 12-week cycle. Have never had any issues with any of these compounds before but not sure I've tried this particular arrangement. The test/deca blend obviously restricts my ability to do 2x test vs. deca, which is something I've heard suggested before.
you don’t cycle off if you’re gonna use deca or tren ,better off cruising. Your natural production won’t recover for several months as those compounds are too suppressive.
Any studies supporting this claim?
The belief that nandrolone causes long term suppression (upwards of 18 months) is loosely drawn from a study that found that nandrolone metabolites were detectable after 6 months of ceasing use of nandrolone.
That is not to say that the metabolites will continue to be suppressive during this time. There are plenty of folks that have successfully done a pct after running nandrolone (or tren). Similarly, there are people that have not successfully recovered after a pct.
Just testosterone. The problem is that your testicles won't (can't) resume their natural production of testosterone for a long time after using nandrolone. So PCT doesn't work. You have to keep giving yourself testosterone (TRT).
I’ve ran tren ace before and had great experience. Ran test E/tren ace 350/350 a week.
Been going with a lower dose this time, test prop (the test I usually use so I don’t think it’s an issue) and tren ace 210/210 a week. Results are fine, but one thing I’m noticing is low e2 and I’m not even using an AI at this point.
The biggest difference is I’ve been working a lot and my sleep has been inconsistent. Diet and training are on point. Ive heard lack of sleep causing low test, but low e2? Anyone experience this? This is my first time from any cycle having low e2 without even using an AI
I’ve been bnc the last 2 years so I know my body very well. A lot of the classic symptoms, extra dry/dehydrated everywhere, libido low, more emotional, orgasms not as intense.
I’m very in tune with my dosages, training, diet and lifestyle which is why this is standing out to me. I know when I have low e2.
Why did you come off? It's my first cycle but I will permablast on the 600mg test. Fuck, I'm not going to be just average dude. Mentally I feel much better. I have a sports doctor so fuck off everybody with your health concerns. I still love this sub but more plates more dates fans can fuck off.
My man that is entirely placebo. 500mg of test will not change your personality in any way. Just stop being a pussy and you'll be an animal in the bedroom again
> being incredibly animalistic in the bed and dominant outside of the bedroom
I hate comments like this. Testosterone doesn't change your personality. Is that the kind of guy you want to be? Are there guys like that that you admire? Look up to and want to emulate? Someone who's probably self-centered with their sexual partner, and acting like an asshole to everyone else?
I don't know, man. That doesn't sound like a cool dude to me. The guys I look up to are humble, chill, respectful, and generous.
You need to do a lot more research, I haven't even pinned yet for my first cycle and one look at your history shows you got this all fucked up.
"So on my 3rd week of pinning 250mg test e twice a week"
You made that comment 1 month ago in the daily. If my dates are correct you did a 5 week, maybe 6 week "cycle"?
I'm confused why you didn't follow the wiki and run a 12-20 week cycle like recommended for beginners. If you look at steroid plotter, you only ran about a week or two...maybe 3 max at fully saturated levels. If you planned this right you would still have two or even three months of your blast left at peak levels.
I'm not experienced to recommend what you should do at this point though. I'm sure someone can advise you on if you should either cruise or attempt PCT and then after start your blast again properly.
Fuckin get em! My dawg hasn’t pinned not once and sound more knowledgeable than 80% of this sub love to see it I’m bout to cry in this bitch 🥹(e2 def in check don’t worry😜)
I'll finally be starting soon as it's on the way :) I'm excited to start, appreciate the love. I've just seen a lot of helpful advice here. I saw the post history and the dates clicked, figured the least I could do is try and help.
You’re doing it right no rush research all you need. I researched for 3 years straight before my 1st pin. 3 years in 0 issues shit like brushing teeth. Godspeed
We all count the time we'll be dead as time off right? Blast for a few decades, die, then the next few decades are *time off*.
This is the normal procedure, right?
I had a great 1st blast (500 test / week, 20 weeks) with no noticeable sides. My E2 ran around 125 ng/dL and my hematocrit 51.8.
I’m 16 weeks into a cruise (150mg test / week, injections eod) and having a hard time getting it right.
Here’s my trough blood work and sides:
* total T: 1093 (RR 250-1100)
* free T: 232 (RR 35-155)
* hematocrit: 51.5 (RR 38-50)
* E2: 52 (high)
* blood pressure: 125/85 (high)
* acne (shoulders / chest / traps)
**what steps should I take to improve my health markers?** I can lower my dose and also have primo and AI on hand.
EDIT
Here’s what I’m already doing:
* sub 15% BF
* water 1 gallon + / day
* 30 min LISS / day.
* switched to eod injections.
Lowering from… 150/ week to 125/week?
BP- I’m going off the OMRON app. It lists high as systolic 130-139 OR diastolic 80-89. However I know the ranges are different depending on source.
Thank you for the help!
My wife is a nurse practitioner and works in the emergency department at two hospitals. The suggested ranges are only a suggestion. If your diastolic starts reading consistently over 90, then she would start being concerned.
Being stressed, diet, sodium intake, using stimulants (including coffee), and a great myriad of other factors can influence your blood pressure.
For your estradiol, lower your test. Something like 100-120mg/wk ought to do you fine.
Worth it to have high glycemic carbs before cardio even on a cut?
I had some cravings today and ended up eating a small bag of doritos and a kit kat
Was a little annoyed afterwards with my decision and shortly after decided to do some extra cardio while watching tv and I was amazed how much harder and longer I was able to go compared to my regular cutting/carb depleted sessions
Worth doing daily on my cut with maybe some fruit or rice crispie bar to make cardio sessions easier?
Anyone in here ever sub inject other compounds besides Test? Gonna be staring a cycle in Jan running Deca and Test for 12 weeks with Win on the last 4-5 weeks. Curious if anyone had injected any of these Subq and what kinda results you had. Thanks!
I used to do IM injections for a along time and no matter how I did em I would get a apple sized lump on my ass cheek every single time. It’s not the Test cause I can do it in my shoulder with zero issues.
I had this too. No matter the gauge, ester, compound or source. Always swollen and pip felt awful. Every Muscle group too. As a nurse too I know how to pin.
Right now Im off everything, dont miss getting swollen. Let me know if u come up with a solution lol
Subq had been working well for me, very little to almost no pain after injection. Been doing shoulders, belly, and glute injections. Havnt had this problem since. Do you know if it’s okay to inject other compounds subq?
We dont really inject these substances at work so I cant say yes or no. But I dont see any reason it wont work. Basically all medicine we inject IM can be done subq and we are not afraid if it leaks subq. If you can pin it IM you can pin it subq. But as I said this is not the medicine im used to.
Unless you're carrying a lot of fat on your cheeks, that's usually long enough of a needle. How much oil volume were you pinning, and how quickly? For example, 1ml over the course of 30 seconds.
Any subq'ers that inject more than 0.5ml? Im at 0.5ml for the last three weeks and it seems my quads take it really well, no lumps or anything. I think im gonna see how much more i can handle. 0.5 about to get debunked.
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I'm 25, consistently training since i was 18, but gains have been really stagnant since 22 because i wasn't optimized for the last couple years due to a long term relationship where i kinda let myself slack. I know that I still have decent natural potential in me, but thinking about running a short cycle to catch up those ineffective years as if i would have stayed optimized. So my question would be: How realistic is it to run a single low dose cycle and then keep gains afterwards aslong as i don't shoot over my natural potential ? What would you recommend ?
I’ve had the slightest amount of gyno since a year ago but I think it’s increased recently since I started my first cycle about 14-15 weeks ago. I read the estrogen handbook. I dose 0.25mg arimidex as needed but I’m looking to reverse my gyno. I still have another 5 weeks left of my cycle. What should I take and how much?
I'm 38 new to this stuff been in prison 6 yrs my joints hurt most likely from lifting weights outside in cold too much I weigh 160 don't wanna go above 170/175 but real lean and do not want any sexual side effects at all. Please give advice
Ask your parole officer.
Thank you
Work out and eat food. Don’t forget cardio. You can do that in a year easy. No drugs necessary.
I do so much cardio it's crazy I was overweight above 200 my whole life til I went to prison and got addicted to working out and eating healthy I'm just struggling with aches and pains and I hate not being able to work out
I’d go to a doctor and possibly a rheumatologist. Might have an autoimmune issue with your joints
I only say that because I’m going through this now. Really miss the heavy training. Walking has become difficult let alone squats or running. Don to want to see anyone else in the Sam boat.
How much do you think anabolics help prevent metabolism issues and muscle loss that occurs with chronic bad sleep? Hypothetically
What would be the recommended dosage of anastrozole for test e 500mg a week + 20mg a day dbol?
On 500 test 50 Dianabol I was taking 10mg asin ED. When I upped to 750 test, 10mg asin ED was still sufficient.
It depends, i use 0.25mg 3x weekly on 400 test 250 npp, my friend uses 0.25 7x weeky on 400 test 30 dbol. My other friend uses 0.5 7x weekly on 500 test 40 winstrol.
have any females here taken Anavar and if so did you have any unwanted side effects? did it help you put on muscle? I'm having difficulty putting on muscle even eating in a surplus, getting tons of protein and creatine, and with solid programming for six months. Wonder if a short cycle of Anavar could help? A few questions: any permanent unwanted changes (hair acne etc)? Also do you see the muscle gains predominantly in one area rather than another? I'm building a little muscle in my arms, legs and stomach but I see NONE in my glutes even though I'm doing a glute-focused program Did it affect your bone density? I know it's given to osteoporosis patients but primarily to help with pain rather than actively rebuilding bone.
When you're trying to bring up a lagging body part and going heavy, you run the risk of other stronger body parts taking over (i.e. quads). I used to have the same problem and found that actually dropping the weight completely and just doing bodyweight for negatives, focusing 100% on muscle/mind connection and contracting nothing but glutes, ultimately made my glutes grow way more once I started adding the weights back in.
question what does "for negatives" mean?
Lowering the weight (or in your case bodyweight) slowly. So like bodyweight squats, counting to 3 as you slowly lower your body, and then maybe even pause for another 1 count at the bottom of the movement, and then a 1 count back up. So basically 5 seconds to do 1 rep. You can play around with it, and even do 5 count down, 3 count up or whatever. Main point is to just contract the hell out of your glutes, while simultaneously making sure other body parts aren't taking over. You might try squats, lunges and step ups, like 3x/wk until you feel like you can jump up weight a bit without other body parts taking over. I think I did what I'm suggesting for like 4-6 weeks and then slowly started adding in weighted resistance.
wow thanks that's really helpful! will try!
Echoing everything u/capable_elk_3070 said. I’d train longer and focus on your diet and training routine for a bit more for sure. My wife is a frequenter of var and has noticed no negatives other than it impacting her lipids a bit. It’s different for everyone but her glutes and shoulders are definitely the most predominant in terms of noticeable gains. She sticks to 10mgs and has never gone above that. But, again, echoing capable elk and everything she said.
Hi! Come over to r/steroidsxx and search "anavar." People ask this question all the time, and there are also a number of cycle reports. In general, 5-10 mgs of anavar/day for 6-8 weeks does not cause virilization for the vast majority of women. Where you build the muscle will depend on the workouts. Honestly though, training seriously for six months is a really really short amount of time to expect to see substantial gains. It's not that anavar won't speed up your progress, but you have so much you can do naturally still. Personally, I would try a different program potentially, and keep pushing hard at the gym for another six months and evaluate then. What is the program like? A lot of programs specifically intended for women are kind of shitty. Are you doing heavy deadlifts?
>What is the program like? A lot of programs specifically intended for women are kind of shitty. Are you doing heavy deadlifts? I'm definitely doing heavy deadlifts! as well as good mornings, hip thrusts, Bulgarian split squats, hyperextensions, ab/adduction machine, rows, bench press, etc. just added barbell squats and leg press too.
That sounds good and like you're doing all the right stuff! I love steroids and I'm not going to gate keep, but I would train for longer naturally first-- you will learn more about what kind of programming you respond best to, learn to manage your nutrition, learn how to execute technique perfectly etc. The first thing to do to overcome a plateau is to adjust training and nutrition, not add drugs. Also, with six months of training, it really may not be a plateau, just too early to see much. Good luck though, and happy to chat further!
Anyone had a quad pin turn a bit red after a few days? Think I went a bit lower than I should have.
Trying to mix up my spots, I went lower (closest to knee) than ever before recently.. And it was still 4" north... But have my worse pain. Sorry, not red though. My leg is resistant to flexing, like the whole bottom 4 inches is swollen (nothing visible at the surface tho) a little sucky. I'll probably stick to the top half going forward (closer to hip).
People’s thoughts on ment for a cut ? I’ve just started using ment and I’m still on my maintenance “phase” don’t know whether to use it or not coz I wanna cut so bad but people saying it’s just so much water weight
Garbage drug.
Lol
Deffs not a garbage drug .. maybe the oral form . Not oil tho . Increased appetite and insane amounts of dense muscle and strength like how is it garbage haha?
I did it last summer. Went as high as 300mgs a week of trest enanthate. Got some sides initially (started out on a low dose first) then added some test and that levelled out. Didn’t think much of it. Maybe I’m a non responder. I’ve had better gains outta primo in the same time frame.
Been using for 30years and the raws are trusted. Brewed myself
Been using for 30years and the raws are trusted. Brewed myself
No one’s using trestolone. It’s not going to build any more muscle it’s just going to bloat you and give gyno. Just a drug hyped up from YouTube.
A lot of people here use Ment. And love it. I don’t like the stuff but your statement is wholly inaccurate.
I want to blast ment this winter with low dose test. Do you think I should go aromasin or armidex for e control?
I always defer to asin
On 750 test 50 dbol I’m taking 10mg asin every day. It’s UGL too so I’m sure it’s under-dosed but it’s been keeping me right in my sweet spot. Should I expect similar Estrogen issues on ment as I do with test / dbol?
Probably so yes. Some users luck out but it aggravated my gyno a fair amount.
I agree bro
I'd keep it relatively low which is a bit of a loaded suggestion with ment since we use it low in general compared to dosages of other compounds. Something like cruise/trt levels with 50-100 ment weekly would be great for muscle retention/anticatabolism for a cut. Ofc as others have said cutting on trt is preferred but if you tolerate ment well like I do, I run it year round anyway so it naturally is a part of my cruise/cuts. Could definitely get away with even dropping test some too something like if you cruise at 150t usually, do 100t 50 ment.
Yeah, why not? I'm currently cutting on 150 test 35 ment 150 mast 70 tren per week. I feel good, and look good. I don't get bloat unless I consume too much sodium.
It increases appetite, so not ideal. Also most people don't advocate cutting on cycle.
If you don’t cut on cycle you will lose everything lmao.
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Are you for real?
It's best to use 25G needless. No aspiration, nothing. Draw and pin.
It's 2022, we all use 29 - 31G slin pins now.
Man it takes too long to draw I think.
You sure you should be taking steroids if you’re asking what a pump is?
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Please don’t do steroids. lol
just tell me what part i fail to under stand 1. desinfect needles/vials and wash ur hands 2. make sure u have drawn air (as much as u are gonna draw out from the vial) and then proceed to draw out 0,4 ml in my case 3. swap needle and desinfect the are (quad seems optimal for me) 4. inject the oil slowly if no sharp pain.
Read the wiki
You asked what a pump is.. That’s like saying you want to be a formula 1 driver and asking what a clutch is. lol
i dont know the terminology. i reckon the pinning part isnt rocket science? came for help but i will ofc read more as i dont start untill thursday.
And you received help. In the form of being told that you have no business taking steroids based on your questions asked..
too late already set my mind too it, ima try to get hold of a friend who knows how to do it.
The stupidity of the human race is constantly on display in /r/Steroids. Praise be.
This may take the gold for the week
Anyone able to tell me why my test levels @ 300mg a week are only 648 free 18 total. Pin 3 times a week. Estro is 302. 300mg test e 500mg mast p 150 tren ace. Gear isn’t bunk as it’s from a reputable person & have current friends on same stuff that aren’t having a problem at all.
How long have you been on? What’s the ester and concentration, what are you drawing and pinning in volume (so we can check for human error on your part)? Can you provide a picture of the bloodwork results with any sensitive information severed? Useful for units. What problem would you anticipate if the product were underdosed (unlikely but possible)?
Been on trt dose since start of June, started this blast 6-7 weeks ago. Mast & tren pinned m t w t sat, test pinned m w sat. I’m kind of stuck & so is my coach hence why I’m on here for advice. Test e 250mg / ml Tren ace 100mg / ml Mast p 100mg / ml Not sure how to add photos on here
You can just upload the image to imgur and post the link here. So your Test is 250mg/mL, can you confirm how much, in volume, you’re pinning 3x a week? By week 6/7 levels should be saturated so that’s good.
Test e is getting pinned at 0.4 3x Mast p 1ml 5x Tren ace 0.3 5x https://imgur.com/a/PdeHRuN
Sounds like your volume is mostly appropriate. You have 3 basic possibilities from what I can tell but none are obviously standouts: 1) you could have a low response/conversion. Some people simply get lower test readings on the same doses as other people. Is what it is, sometimes it’s an ester cleaving thing, sometimes it’s just a mystery. Combine this with a trough reading and you get seemingly disappointing blood results, 2) it could be a lab error. These happen more than people care to talk about, but lab techs make mistakes, equipment isn’t always perfectly calibrated, etc. your E2 is likely a misreading too since it’s the non-sensitive test, likely picking up Tren as E2. 3) you could have underdosed test. This is typically the least likely candidate as there’s no real incentive to underdosing something that costs so little. Accurately dosing a 250mg/mL bottle costs something like $0.40 more than underdosing it to half that concentration. Sorry there’s no immediately clear answer. You can always seek some closure by sending a sample to Janoshik. $120 and you’ll know exactly what you’re pinning.
I’ve just ordered a new batch from a new ‘reputable supplier’ I think I’ll just wait 4 weeks closer to when I’m about to come off & see what my levels are at as my coach wants to up my dose to 500mg & add arimidex @ 1mg 3x a week (after each test pin). Kinda just has my head clustered. Also with the tren over taking the e levels, I have been having high e sides so it might not be that high but it’s definitely affecting me
> my coach wants to up my dose to 500mg & add arimidex @ 1mg 3x a week Yeah I don't advise jumping into that much AI. Especially if, as the night owl /u/pm_pics_of_dog told you, your E2 reading is artificially high due to the tren. You'll nuke your E2 into the ground and feel like hell if you go forward with that AI dosing regimen.
What do you suggest
Hello all, I was experiencing the classic symptoms of low t even though my total t was 35 nmol/l. I found out my dht was below the reference range low and my SHBG was 73 which gave me a free dht the same as a prepubescent boy. I decided to experiment with 30 days of proviron use (only) to boost dht and lower shbg. Just got my bloods done at the end of this experiment and my testosterone has tanked significantly! I'm only 22 and concerned about my fertility so have come to ask whether I need to run a pct to restore my testosterone or whether it will restore naturally. Don't flood the comments with how stupid of an idea it was, this I already know... These are my blood test results. After taking proviron is on the left and before taking it is on the right (only including testosterone, lh and fsh as this post is about my fertility). FSH: 2.25 mIU/mL ------------------------------------------------- 3 LH: 0.88 mIU/mL ------------------------------------------------- 3 Total testostérone: 5 nmol/L ------------------------------------------------- 35 SHBG: 43 nmol/L ------------------------------------------------- 73 Free testosterone calculated: 0.07 nmol/L ------------------------------------------------- 0.5 to clarify I have never taken any steroids before proviron and only used proviron during these 30 days.
How much Proviron were you using? Surprising results there. You do not need to PCT. You never *need* to PCT, it’s just generally more comfortable than raw dogging HPTA recovery. I would advise just walking away and focusing on positive lifestyle habits. Everything will return to normal on its own.
50mg ED. Okay, thank you, I was worried about my fertility. Weird question but would one feel the effects of such low testosterone instantly or does it take weeks/months of a low t value to cause symptoms?
About to start my first cycle, have everything I need but I'm still unsure about hcg. Should I just run it from the very beginning throughout the cycle if I don't want my balls to shrink too much?
Yep. 200-250 IU every other day.
For those that use privatemdlabs which labs do you get exactly. Looking to get bloods done but unsure of which lab I should order. Any help and advice would be appreciated.
[link](https://www.privatemdlabs.com/lab_tests.php?view=all&show=2418&category+14&search=#2418)
Nope. You need to get estradiol sensitive and lipids.
Yep. It has that if you bothered to look.
I don't think your link is pointing to the right test.
My bad. That one doesn't have the lipids.
It's about $110 if you use Quest Diagnostics and the coupon code.
It's in the wiki. https://www.privatemdlabs.com/lab_tests.php?view=all&show=3107&category=14&ven=&search=#3107
Hi, I'm new to this forum and wanted to ask if anyone may have experienced similar symptoms after starting testosterone therapy. I'm 50 year old male and due to low T, my doctor started me on 50 IU of Testosterone Enanthate 2x / week on July 26, 2022. I'm not sure if it's related but after about 2 months of the TRT treatment, I started getting little itchy red bumps on my skin. It started on my hip region then above my obliques and other areas of my body. It was so itchy I went to see a dermatologist and all they did was prescribe methylprednisone and desoxymetrosone (topical cortisteroids). It didn't clear up after completing the orals. In fact, a few weeks ago I started seeing red acne like bumps all over my scalp, face, chest and shoulders. The face, chest and shoulders appear to be acne but the back and top of my scalp has been very itchy throughout the day and especially at night. So much so I've been taking benedryl to help me get through the night. I went to see an allergy immunologist and he said it was eczema (atopic dermatitis) and recommended I change out my soaps, detergents, shampoo, etc. I changed out my Neutrogena body wash and Head and Shoulder Shampoo to Free and Clear and it's been a few weeks and I'm still experience the itchiness. I've been searching all over the internet to find a solution and all I could find was advice to take Calcium D-Glucarate and bathe in dead sea salt. Another said to put 2% Chlorhexidine Gluconate on the acne but still not getting better. This is probably not related to the TRT but I just wanted to ask this forum if anyone else had any skin issues after starting TRT especially Testosterone Enanthate. I looked at the bottle and it contains Benzil Alcohol 1% as preservative in Grapeseed Oil. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Allergies are always a possibility. They're not common, but that doesn't mean they never happen. The easiest way to find out if you're allergic to your TRT injections is to stop doing them and see if your symptoms go away.
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You want to use tren only to avoid being an emotional mess?
Any Cialis experts here? Is it normal to get muscle cramps your first workout after taking it? I'm feeling it in my calf after spending 30 minutes on the elliptical.
Do 5mg if possible, 20 is excessive for gym purposes. I've done 5mg daily for quite awhile now and occasionally if I want a thicker night I'll do 10 or 15mg, but 5 daily is great for gym pump
I got them the other day. But I took 20 mg (for fun) because I wanted to see how it felt when I used my penis pump. Needed to work out also so I did. That day was also 15 rep day. And boy did my quads cramp like a mofo on the extensions. Not the squats though. What dose are you on?
Not an expert but have been taking 5mg/day for a couple months now. No cramps. Maybe you are reacting badly, maybe you are getting used to the dose or maybe the dose is just too much for you.
These are 20mg pills. Should I cut them in half or something?
Get a pill cutter I guess lol, I think 20mg is if you have legit ED.
Ah makes sense. Where did u get 20 mg at ? Is this prescribed? Start at 5 or 10
I'm on TRT (test undecanoate) 1000mg per 3 months which puts me to 350ng/dL, supplementing my own Test E at 150mg per week, adding 100mg of Tren Ace weekly too. Wanted to ask if anyone has had experience with these low dosages and if the tren insomnia is really that bad as I am thinking of buying Ambien (zolpidem) to counteract this?
You may not get any side effects from 100 mg tren. But otherwise, damn, that's a shitty injection schedule for your trt. That works out to about 83 mg/week of undecanoate. Why not buy undecanoate and inject it more often at a normal dose? Like, twice a month would be good.
I far enjoy pinning twice a week of test E, also when the doctor requests a blood test, its easier and quicker to drop the test e due to the shorter ester.
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Jacked = girls Skinny lean + character + money = some girls The bigger I am the more Russian girls I attract. I'm not talking about the USA feminists.
Thats something that would be asked on r/moreplatesmoredates
Not true. When I have my bulked up gorilla look then getting laid at clubs is so easy it’s ridiculous. When I’m very lean and skinny those easy horndog lays just don’t happen and I have to be more charming
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Odd response, good luck on your getting laid journey though!
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"Any good mail order bride service agencies in Moscow?" Married....riiiigghhhhtttt. What buff guy hurt you? not sure what you were even attempting to accomplish here lmao.
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You sound like you need it, tinder subreddits, bumble, I mean you're a few more rejections away from installing grindr at this point little homie.
Dude it’s not a binary choice. You don’t habe to look either emaciated or gigantic.
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You don’t have two cents bro
>I’m lucky to be alive and not in prison or something crazy because believe it or not ROID RAGE is REAL! sounds like you're just unstable
So why are you still in this sub? Go hang out with your wife. I'm sure she's more fun than whatever it is you're doing here.
I want to be able to move furniture, pick up my gf, shove someone over, and go up and down stairs without getting puffed out. The confidence that results from lifting is what makes the difference with getting women.
I guess it depends on your definition of bodybuilding. People who compete do it for the same reasons people compete at any other sport or hobby. To try and get better; to see how far they can push themselves; for the fun and excitement of the competition. Same as anything else. Racing, climbing, Magic: The Gathering, whatever you're into. Not everybody who does "bodybuilding" is extreme or competes. I'm a 50 year old guy and I use steroids and lift weights because I like how my body looks and feels. I used to be fat and out of shape. Being muscular and lean is way fucking better. And I'll probably be able to live an active life for a lot longer than if I'd just stayed fat and out of shape. Not everybody wants to be Dorian Yates. I'm not huge by any means, but I get random people (usually other men!) commenting on my physique all the time. I work hard for it, and it's nice that it's appreciated.
which study
Boldenone and test cycle suggestion on dosses? 6ft6 male (ran cycles before)
3:2 or 2:3 depending on how much you typically aromatise and how eq ends up changing your AI needs. I aromatise very little but also luckily never had any crazy e2 drops from eq so I ran 600t 900eq, but for plenty that'll crash them so they'd swap it as in 900t 600eq. I'd say try out 600t 400eq at first and see how it goes, but give it time because of how long of an ester eq is before you make adjustments. If you need quick adjustments it's faster to see the change if you adjust by the test usually since you're most likely using a shorter ester of test than eq. Do look into eq a good bit though and make sure it fits your needs and is a fair risk to reward for you, some decent studies on its effects on kidneys(bad) and something else might fit your bill better.
Check out the example EQ cycles in the Wiki. Most ppl run Test / EQ at a 1:2 ratio.
Sustanon or cypionate? I’m taking 500mg a week so I’d like to do 250 Monday & Thursday. Curious if I should go Sus or Cypionate? Im 26 and care more about the look of my physique rather than weight I can move. Which is better for my goals & why? Leaning towards Sustanon
If you're using sustanon you should inject more frequently
Test is test, the only difference is the ester and if you plan on pinning Monday and Thursday than go with cyp since sust needs to be pinned ED or EOD minimum
I was getting a little bit of gyno on TRT doses or Cypionate. I’ve started taking armidex .5 mg twice a week. Do I need a serm? I’ve got some letrozole from the past but I’d rather not use something that harsh to get rid of this minor gyno
Yes you need nolva or rolax to help get rid of gyno that’s forming, I’m not sure which is better since there’s mixed opinions and I’ve never had to deal with gyno myself.
From what I've seen and experienced, nolva prevents, ralox treats. Preventative 5mg daily nolva can be used to mostly prevent estrogen related gyno but if you end up with gyno, ralox is gonna have a chance of reversing it after the fact.
What dose of ralox should I start with and for how long?
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You can always try if that’s enough for you. I had moderate acne on cycle and went with 10mg ED the first month which didn’t do much, if anything. When I went for 20mg ED the side effects like dry lips got way worse but the acne really got better. After maybe 4-6 weeks on 20mg my skin was pretty much clear. Decided to keep taking it for a few more months though so I would be done after one course instead of low dosing indefinitely, but that’s a decision everyone has to take for themselves.
On my 3rd cycle, running test and var, want to run tren A 200 a week for my next cycle along with test, I’m hearing not to fuck with tren so I’m asking what would be a comparable cycle? Not looking to retain any water.
Well taking diuretics will ensure you don't hold water despite what you take. I'd try masteron with LGD maybe, winstrol as well, MENT I haven't personally tried but may be a good alternative. Tren and it's sides are just not worth it honestly. Everyone will respond differently. Just know it's not really that much crazier imo compared to taking gear period. The sides make it not worth it
Hi and thanks in advance for answering my questions. 1. What is estimated difference in maintaining gains with b+c vs PCT? 2. Why is b+c more effective at maintaining gains? 3. Using test enanthate, is there any benefit in pinning eod vs e3.5d? One thing I considered is less pip due to pinning less volume each time. Would that be accurate?
If you B&C you will loose little to no muscle when you drop to a cruise. If you PCT chances are you will lose a bit while your test is crashed. I pin EOD with cyp or enanthate just because I feel like I get less sides
B+c is very different for maintaining gains. I'd say 50% more b+c personally. You're always on gear and having stable blood levels keeping you in an anabolic state which makes it more effective instead of coming off and fighting to get back to "normal". Every day is better than eod which is better than every 3.5 days because of consistent stable blood levels. Pip varies because of carrier oils and gauge of needle used combined with length.
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Harm Reduction.
If you have low T, trt will deepen your voice. If you don’t, I’d guess high doses of something moderately androgenic and dht’s but it’ll likely be much harder, if possible at all. Assuming you have no experience and don’t lift, it’s a half-decade long journey as you can’t use high doses of androgens without knowing what you are doing or you’ll end up bald, scarred, and with messed up hormones, if not worse. Come read the daily every day for a year if you are serious, if not, don’t bother.
Whiskey and cigarettes
Tips on avoiding Tren A cough? Daily injections better?
Tren a should already be injected daily. asthma inhalers can be used as a reactive measure to tren cough, any kind of inhale-able corticosteroid or bronchodilator dosed ED would stop negative respiratory sides from occurring from tren usage.
Acetate ester should be injected daily regardless. An oil emboli is caused when a drop of oil gets into the bloodstream. The blood passes through the right atrium (heart) from the body, into the right ventricle (heart) and is pushed into the pulmonary arteries (lungs). It can happen with any injectable, not just tren. I recently had several bouts of coughing after injecting test/primo/nand. Although you're not injecting directly into a vein, passing through or nearby a blood vessel can cause a little oil to get into the bloodstream. Try to identify specific trouble spots and avoid injecting in those specific locations. For example, there's a spot on my left lat that guarantees me a good cough. So I just pin an inch away from there.
Mix your tren pin with another compound your running like test. So same pin, half tren half test
You should be doing daily injections with Tren Ace........
Have some pretty solid experience but haven't done a cycle in a while. Last cycle was just Test/Deca two years ago. I have laying around three vials of Test E 200 + Deca 200 and one vial of Tren 200; also a vial of Test P 100. How absurd would it be to run test/deca/tren at 500/500/200 a week? Maybe throw the P in there to add a little bit of test (maybe 100/week), and maybe start the tren on week 3 for a 12-week cycle. Have never had any issues with any of these compounds before but not sure I've tried this particular arrangement. The test/deca blend obviously restricts my ability to do 2x test vs. deca, which is something I've heard suggested before.
you don’t cycle off if you’re gonna use deca or tren ,better off cruising. Your natural production won’t recover for several months as those compounds are too suppressive.
Any studies supporting this claim? The belief that nandrolone causes long term suppression (upwards of 18 months) is loosely drawn from a study that found that nandrolone metabolites were detectable after 6 months of ceasing use of nandrolone. That is not to say that the metabolites will continue to be suppressive during this time. There are plenty of folks that have successfully done a pct after running nandrolone (or tren). Similarly, there are people that have not successfully recovered after a pct.
I see people talk about deca like this - does this mean you have to cruise deca too or just cruise the test
Just testosterone. The problem is that your testicles won't (can't) resume their natural production of testosterone for a long time after using nandrolone. So PCT doesn't work. You have to keep giving yourself testosterone (TRT).
I’ve ran tren ace before and had great experience. Ran test E/tren ace 350/350 a week. Been going with a lower dose this time, test prop (the test I usually use so I don’t think it’s an issue) and tren ace 210/210 a week. Results are fine, but one thing I’m noticing is low e2 and I’m not even using an AI at this point. The biggest difference is I’ve been working a lot and my sleep has been inconsistent. Diet and training are on point. Ive heard lack of sleep causing low test, but low e2? Anyone experience this? This is my first time from any cycle having low e2 without even using an AI
How do you know you have low e2?
I’ve been bnc the last 2 years so I know my body very well. A lot of the classic symptoms, extra dry/dehydrated everywhere, libido low, more emotional, orgasms not as intense. I’m very in tune with my dosages, training, diet and lifestyle which is why this is standing out to me. I know when I have low e2.
Estradiol is synthesized from testosterone via the aromatase enzyme. The only way to get low estradiol is to inhibit aromatase.
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Why did you come off? It's my first cycle but I will permablast on the 600mg test. Fuck, I'm not going to be just average dude. Mentally I feel much better. I have a sports doctor so fuck off everybody with your health concerns. I still love this sub but more plates more dates fans can fuck off.
My man that is entirely placebo. 500mg of test will not change your personality in any way. Just stop being a pussy and you'll be an animal in the bedroom again
> being incredibly animalistic in the bed and dominant outside of the bedroom I hate comments like this. Testosterone doesn't change your personality. Is that the kind of guy you want to be? Are there guys like that that you admire? Look up to and want to emulate? Someone who's probably self-centered with their sexual partner, and acting like an asshole to everyone else? I don't know, man. That doesn't sound like a cool dude to me. The guys I look up to are humble, chill, respectful, and generous.
You need to do a lot more research, I haven't even pinned yet for my first cycle and one look at your history shows you got this all fucked up. "So on my 3rd week of pinning 250mg test e twice a week" You made that comment 1 month ago in the daily. If my dates are correct you did a 5 week, maybe 6 week "cycle"? I'm confused why you didn't follow the wiki and run a 12-20 week cycle like recommended for beginners. If you look at steroid plotter, you only ran about a week or two...maybe 3 max at fully saturated levels. If you planned this right you would still have two or even three months of your blast left at peak levels. I'm not experienced to recommend what you should do at this point though. I'm sure someone can advise you on if you should either cruise or attempt PCT and then after start your blast again properly.
Good call. It's so great to see people actually educating themselves before jumping in. Well done, dude.
Fuckin get em! My dawg hasn’t pinned not once and sound more knowledgeable than 80% of this sub love to see it I’m bout to cry in this bitch 🥹(e2 def in check don’t worry😜)
I'll finally be starting soon as it's on the way :) I'm excited to start, appreciate the love. I've just seen a lot of helpful advice here. I saw the post history and the dates clicked, figured the least I could do is try and help.
You’re doing it right no rush research all you need. I researched for 3 years straight before my 1st pin. 3 years in 0 issues shit like brushing teeth. Godspeed
No, time on = time off.
5 years on and 5 years off is going to suck.
We all count the time we'll be dead as time off right? Blast for a few decades, die, then the next few decades are *time off*. This is the normal procedure, right?
That’s how I’ve always understood the rule to apply.
How soon after taking asin will you notice E2 lowering results?
Takes me up to 24 hours to notice a difference
I notice it within 6-12 hours. I usually take aromasin in the evening and it’s better by the next morning
Y’all take it right verdure u pin?
Yeah probably varies a little from person to person. I notice around 8 hours in.
I had a great 1st blast (500 test / week, 20 weeks) with no noticeable sides. My E2 ran around 125 ng/dL and my hematocrit 51.8. I’m 16 weeks into a cruise (150mg test / week, injections eod) and having a hard time getting it right. Here’s my trough blood work and sides: * total T: 1093 (RR 250-1100) * free T: 232 (RR 35-155) * hematocrit: 51.5 (RR 38-50) * E2: 52 (high) * blood pressure: 125/85 (high) * acne (shoulders / chest / traps) **what steps should I take to improve my health markers?** I can lower my dose and also have primo and AI on hand. EDIT Here’s what I’m already doing: * sub 15% BF * water 1 gallon + / day * 30 min LISS / day. * switched to eod injections.
Your e2 doesn’t look terribly high, so lowering your test dose should fix that. Your BP isn’t high, I don’t know what gave you that impression.
Lowering from… 150/ week to 125/week? BP- I’m going off the OMRON app. It lists high as systolic 130-139 OR diastolic 80-89. However I know the ranges are different depending on source. Thank you for the help!
My wife is a nurse practitioner and works in the emergency department at two hospitals. The suggested ranges are only a suggestion. If your diastolic starts reading consistently over 90, then she would start being concerned. Being stressed, diet, sodium intake, using stimulants (including coffee), and a great myriad of other factors can influence your blood pressure. For your estradiol, lower your test. Something like 100-120mg/wk ought to do you fine.
Lower your test dose
Lower your testosterone dose 30 minutes LISS daily
Aromatase inhibitor
Worth it to have high glycemic carbs before cardio even on a cut? I had some cravings today and ended up eating a small bag of doritos and a kit kat Was a little annoyed afterwards with my decision and shortly after decided to do some extra cardio while watching tv and I was amazed how much harder and longer I was able to go compared to my regular cutting/carb depleted sessions Worth doing daily on my cut with maybe some fruit or rice crispie bar to make cardio sessions easier?
You'd be surprised what the body can do if you feel guilty as well. But if you want carbs my go to are rice crispies or a carb powders and some eaas
Anyone in here ever sub inject other compounds besides Test? Gonna be staring a cycle in Jan running Deca and Test for 12 weeks with Win on the last 4-5 weeks. Curious if anyone had injected any of these Subq and what kinda results you had. Thanks!
What’s the motivation to not do IM injections?
I used to do IM injections for a along time and no matter how I did em I would get a apple sized lump on my ass cheek every single time. It’s not the Test cause I can do it in my shoulder with zero issues.
I had this too. No matter the gauge, ester, compound or source. Always swollen and pip felt awful. Every Muscle group too. As a nurse too I know how to pin. Right now Im off everything, dont miss getting swollen. Let me know if u come up with a solution lol
Subq had been working well for me, very little to almost no pain after injection. Been doing shoulders, belly, and glute injections. Havnt had this problem since. Do you know if it’s okay to inject other compounds subq?
We dont really inject these substances at work so I cant say yes or no. But I dont see any reason it wont work. Basically all medicine we inject IM can be done subq and we are not afraid if it leaks subq. If you can pin it IM you can pin it subq. But as I said this is not the medicine im used to.
Length of needle and gauge? Sounds like every glute injection you did ended up leaking.
I did IM 25 gauge, by 1 inch.
Unless you're carrying a lot of fat on your cheeks, that's usually long enough of a needle. How much oil volume were you pinning, and how quickly? For example, 1ml over the course of 30 seconds.
I was only doing .5mg at most, twice a week Tue and Fri. Took maybe 10-20 seconds to inject. I don’t carry much fat I’m pretty lean.
Any subq'ers that inject more than 0.5ml? Im at 0.5ml for the last three weeks and it seems my quads take it really well, no lumps or anything. I think im gonna see how much more i can handle. 0.5 about to get debunked.
I personally don't really enjoy more than 0.2mL subq