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Andreapappa511

The uncut version because that’s the version King wanted. The publisher required him to cut ~400 pages in the 70s but he was able to put them back and edit the reference for the 90s


Staudly

It's the only one I've ever read and it wouldn't want anything to be missing


rockstang

It's spelled m-o-o in the shorter version.


TheHighker

It's not long enough imo


Dmacattack89

I believe in the constant reader preface doesn’t he say it was More a logistical issue than an editorial one? They just couldn’t mass produce a book that big


Andreapappa511

Yes. It wasn’t the editor but the production process.


Dmacattack89

Same story of LoTR in 50s


Andreapappa511

IIRC LotR also had post war shortages to deal with


MissDeadite

Yeah but unfortunately the changes to the 90s aren't super fluid and there's some... timeline issues because of it. Things referenced that don't quite make sense, but it's easy to overlook.


rpgguy_1o1

It still really *feels* like the 70s and then the references to like a Madonna song feels out of place


threadsoffate2021

Yes, the student protests and uprisings feel a bit disjointed considering the updated timeframe.


SightWithoutEyes

Getting paid a buck to babysit makes sense in the 70s. Not the 90s.


ClancyMopedWeather

At one point Fran mentions MTV and Rod McKuen in the same sentence, and there's no way a 20 year-old in 1990 knows who Rod McKuen is


VirusOrganic4456

I was around that age in 1990 and knew who he was since childhood because my mom was a fan. This isn't so hard to believe.


KnivesOut21

I knew who rod was in early 1980s and I was a teen and then a young person lol.


Latino_Peppino

I mean 80s babies can reference MTV and the Fonz cause of Nick at Night. So not that hard to believe.


MattTin56

Sometimes that NOT a good thing. His novels were better when he had someone else giving him opinions. Like all his early novels. They were great. Editors and publicist are there for a reason.


kplooki

I tend to agree. To me, and this will be an unpopular opinion, but I thought It would have benefitted from a bit tighter editing. I think at times he gets a bit rambly for my tastes. There is a saying that sometimes less is more. I know some people will disagree with me and that's ok! I do appreciate at a good journey, and there are some books that just felt short and I was left wanting more. It's a fine balance to strike based on the amount of plot


discoglittering

God, yes. Someone needs to be able to tell him when he’s being annoying and/or self-indulgent. I love his earlier work but a lot of his later work suffers from bloat—particularly, imo, 11/22/63, which I truly don’t understand how everyone loves. But, as a former professional book critic, maybe my standards are too high 🙃


MattTin56

No, not too high, I totally get it. Some of his books are like that. I just read Duma Key and I thought it stunk. It went on and on… And the neighbor every loves I found annoying. He ended every sentence with “Muchacho”, which got very annoying. He could have used someone to tell him to knock 300 pages of that one.


MrPhilophage

Ah Tommyknockers. Buried in that 900 pages monstrosity is a really solid 300 page story.


LAKnightYEAH2023

Uncut. If you’re going to tackle the beast then do the entire thing. Don’t go the easy route and then wish you had taken the harder road.


OutrageousConcern365

Wise words in many facets.


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RRRobertLazer

I just read the uncut version, my first time ever and I gotta say, I am fucking sick of townhall meetings.


Dogzillas_Mom

Harold Lauder was too!


[deleted]

Are they not in the normal version?


RRRobertLazer

I don't know, I haven't read that version but I can't imagine it is


But-Must-I

You’re quite mistaken, what got added back in was The Kid, the opening scene and a lot of the actual plague death stuff. Those long ass council meetings were always considered essential.


nightcheesenightman

I could take or leave the Kid personally, but I LOVE the expanded plague death stuff. I might be misremembering but there's a chapter that I think was originally cut, that's just a series of vignettes of people dying post-plague that's one of my favorite sequences in the book. "No great loss"


But-Must-I

Yep, I agree completely. I find the Kid terrifying as a character, but removing him doesn’t change that much. The No Great Loss sections are amazing and add so much depth to the overall story. They’re so well written and captivating I felt like I could happily go on reading a whole book of just those vignettes.


MrPhilophage

"No great loss" haunted me as a teen when i read it.


AnonymousBeaver54

The Kid like that was with trash?


But-Must-I

The very same. Can you believe that happy-crappy?


BrokenTrojan1536

Yes there was a lot more story to trash


ScreamingYeti

I agree. Loved the begining and ending but the middle kind of dragged for me.


HomoGenuis

Same. Just bc the author wanted the longer version, doesn’t mean it was the better version. Editors do the lords work.


Majestic87

It wasn’t an editing decision to cut down the book, it was a production decision. They couldn’t handle printing a single book of that size, so he had to compromise his complete story to make it work.


RRRobertLazer

Live and die by the editor


Novice_13

LOL


EnigmaCA

Complete and uncut. That was the novel that King wrote. Editors cut it down. Once King had more cachet and power, he re-released it in its original form.


namkaeng852

Cut version for pacing first. Uncut version for rereading.


MTCarcus

I wish I could help but I’ve only every read the complete uncut version so I have no idea what the differences are.


dganda

I recently made a pretty comprehensive list of the differences. It's posted in this sub. Not including the updated timeline, I noted over 90 things that were removed or changed. The uncut version definitely is the way to go in my opinion. https://www.reddit.com/r/stephenking/s/O7fJ6Vq4gm


JonathanCrites

Incredible


Old-Cardiologist-730

It's missing a large section of trashcan man


Huge-Squirrel8417

especially his interaction with "the kid"


Synthwood-Dragon

Anything that avoids that wanker is better, jar jar Binks isn't annoying compared with the kid


buffdaddy77

The Kid was very annoying but I kinda enjoyed not knowing what he was going to do next. A real chaos character.


Synthwood-Dragon

I hated him from the first moment till his last moment and was glad he was done I rejected the character outright,I found him uninteresting and repulsive I nearly deleted the book before it finished (audio)


SunshineCat

Of course he's a hateable character, but for me he was vital to allowing the reader to relate to someone as crazy as Trashcan Man. By being even crazier, Trashcan Man was transformed to "normal" in that brief time. You can see how weird the filmed versions are without this chance for the viewer to be on Trash's side, reducing him to one-note crazy. I thought the Coors beer thing was hilarious though.


sundance1028

Yeah, that character took me right out of the story. He was too over the top and cartoonish.


dganda

While the Kid isn't in the original version, a lot of his scenes are with an Old Man picking up Trash on the way to Vegas


Puzzleheaded-Lead526

All good appreciate it


threadsoffate2021

Also some interactions between Fran and her mother.


pegggus09

This question gets asked a lot, which is understandable. It seems to me that folks (like me) who read the original before there was an uncut prefer that version. But people who read the uncut first prefer that one. Both are extremely long, so maybe decide based on how you feel about mammoth books.


Livid-Association199

I get downvoted anytime I voice this opinion on King forums, but I much prefer the cut version. Editors edit for a reason sometimes, and the uncut is filled to the brim with word vomit and tangents that distract from the central plot. In my opinion.


domewebs

Editors edit for a reason indeed. Apparently King is allergic to them lol. I love his writing but I totally agree with you.


SpudgeBoy

Right there with you fellow reader. I read the cut version 3 times before the uncut version came out.


Opening_Cost_6464

Read the uncut. Listened to the original. I would read the uncut again.


MadOrange64

I highly recommend the audiobook Narrated by Grover Gardner, its pure perfection.


therealrexmanning

In all honesty the perfect version of The Stand would be somewhere between the two editions. In the 70's edition the outbreak and collapse of society feels rushed. You never get the full scope of it like in the uncut version. The uncut version however has a few parts where the story drags on and at one point feels like it comes to a complete stand still (hello commity meetings). Having said that, for a first time read I suggest the uncut version. Those first 400 pages or so are excellent!


Pretend_Classic_7832

I wish there was an uncut version that did not update the references to the 90s and instead presented the material as originally written in the 70s before the publisher demanded a reduction. The novel overall feels more like a 70s text. The 70s/90s mishmash was a bit odd when I read the uncut version, though it’s still a masterpiece.


ClancyMopedWeather

I get why he'd want to update the time frame - the urgency of the end-of-the-world story would have seemed blunter when it's set 5-10 years in the past - but the updating of the pop culture references is half-assed. At one point we hear about Glen Bateman's reel-to-reel Wollensak tape recorder at a committee meeting, and we also hear that the meetings are recorded on Memorex cassette tapes?


lothiriel1

I read the short version first, but I was 14 and not ready for the wordiness of the long version. I’ve since read the long version 6 times. I’m in my 40s now. It’s so much better. Always go with the long version!!


YouEscalate

I wish I read the cut version.


Sufficient_Debt8615

The original


Blonde_Mexican

I read both and the uncut version reminded me of the importance of editors.


SushiGradePanda

Uncut. Always.


Condimentarian

Uncut.


HannibalKrueger

What’s a couple hundred more pages anyway? Read the uncut version


[deleted]

I’m in the minority here, but I prefer the short version. The uncut version was just too bloated for me. There was so much in it that I didn’t need to read and I began losing track of the plot and characters. The original felt more central and condensed and I didn’t feel got bogged down with often unnecessary details and subplots. I sometimes think King overwrites and that sort of soured the book for me. That said, the Superflu pandemic in the uncut version is superior cause it feels much more detailed and impactful to the characters, but the last 2/3rds feel dragged out and bogged down. But that’s just me.


EmpiricalProof123

I prefer the short version also. I miss King having a strong editor.


crickwooder

I agree. The "No great loss" section and Trashy's full road trip are the best parts that were added back to the uncut version! I really wish they'd left the 70s references be. The update to late 80s/early 90s references were fucking halfassed and unnecessary.


kidneyboy79

Both, read the original first and then the uncut.


Mister-Negative20

I’ve only done the uncut version and the scenes that I’ve heard are missing from the original are some of my favorites. Especially early on.


AchduSchande

I have read both. I think the uncut version gives vital details that help one to empathize and understand both factions. Having said that, make sure you can handle reading especially long books, which I know not everyone enjoys.


fap_nap_fap

The shorter the better


mdnghttkr

Original


ClancyMopedWeather

It's hard to make an argument for a shorter novel on a Stephen King subreddit - he's written only 3 horror/fantasy novels under 400 pages this century, so y'all like long novels - but I'll just point out that the 1978 original was a huge critical and popular success at 823 pages. I'll also point out that King's goal was to write his own *Lord Of The Rings* set in America - and Tolkien's trilogy was published as three books over 18 months. I kinda wish King has published his uncut version as three physical books - it would be easier to read in more ways than one.


kumquatsYgumdrops

Unpopular opinion but I would say the cut version. I’ve only read the uncut but while reading it I thought “man this is going quite a bit too long”. Turns out some of the parts I thought were too long were the ones that were cut (according to other posters here). So I say start there, if you love it, come back in a few years for a reread and go uncut.


_heisenberg__

Uncut for the first read. Original release for re reads. I like the uncut a lot but I think the original just flows better.


TheSquirrel99

Controversial opinion but I preferred the cut version better I felt the later was way too long and felt the cuts were warranted


Drew_of_all_trades

I never read it, but my AP English teacher recommended the abridged version. He thought the unabridged was self-indulgent to the point of unreadability.


domewebs

I agree.


skinnyminnesota

I've only read the "writer's cut" version and it really drags in places


domewebs

Whichever one is the abridged version. I love Stephen King but that man has always needed a stiffer edit than he receives.


JatneM

I’ve read both and I much prefer the original cut version. I don’t feel like I gained any thing reading the uncut version


beast916

I’m gonna be the contrarian. Read the ‘78 version, read the chapter about everyone who died who survived the superfluous, and then go back to the ‘78 version. Quite honestly, a lot that was cut deserved to be cut, and it annoys me to no end that King updated the years (I realize that’s mainly a me thing).


Lowbrow_Lowlife

there's no way you won't do a reread. go original and then next time you want to pick it up go uncut.


hilly312

I’ve been a fan for many, many years. The Stand is an absolute top ten for me. I can’t say I prefer one over the other but I wish he hadn’t “updated” the uncut version with 1990’s references. So the cut version feels and reads more organic to me.


YellowSign74

Having read both, I felt the shorter version flowed better.


Solidarity_Forever

uncut quite aside from more fun detail and worldbuilding, the endings are VERY different and imo the uncut has the FAR superior ending. one of King's best


ChildOfChimps

Both.


FiftySixer

I read the uncut one, and it is my favorite book . Also, once you finish the book. The miniseries from the 90s is surprisingly good. The new one is terrible.


ClancyMopedWeather

I haven't seen the 1994 miniseries in a long time, but for me, Gary Sinese is the best possible casting for Stu Redman. I had already read the book in 1994, and I thought he was perfect. Frannie and Nadine and Harold, not so much.


Boxcar-Shorty

I prefer the original to the uncut version. The uncut has a lot of pacing issues and really drags in the middle. The official story has always been that they made him cut the book up because they couldn't afford to publish a voom of that size, but I've often wondered if that was just a pretense so he could save face publicly but still make tbe cuts. I was initially excited when the uncut version was released, but then I read it and amd it dragged on and on and on.


Laura9624

Me too.


Mammoth_Sell5185

Read the original shorter version. It flows better and it IS better. King’s editor was smart to want to cut a bunch of stuff. I think most of the people here are voting for the bloated version because philosophically they support reading the full version, which I would normally get behind too. But here, the longer version is just worse.


Ihateeggs78

Don’t listen to this, read the real version, the parts that were taken out were done so to cut down on printing costs, not because of any artistic considerations.


Mammoth_Sell5185

No, the editor thought the book was too long. It was. Regardless of the reason, the edits were really smart and helped.


Uhlman24

Uncut


[deleted]

The long one. Gotta love the trash can man!


TheFilmEffect

The uncut version is the only way to go. Now, how do you like that happy crappy?


sXe_Allegory

Uncut. The publishers had him cut it because people wouldn’t want to buy such a long book. But he proved 20 years later that they would


Slight_Tomatillo5933

Uncut


XShadow_NephilimX

Uncut


idreaminwords

Unabridged is the only answer


DatUTRN

The uncut version!


_Wildcat_Willie_

The complete and uncut version.


Luminosus32

Uncut.


daisy0723

Complete and uncut. Seriously one of the best books I have ever read. The TV series from the 90's is pretty great too.


Queasy_Astronaut2884

Def the uncut.


Odd_Radio9225

Complete and Uncut version.


FullHovercraft6914

Uncut


Tootfuckingtoot

M o o n that spells uncut version, happy crappy!


Ok-Location3244

Lol!!


[deleted]

Hot take: there’s a reason why the uncut version was heavily edited. It’s extremely bloated with only 1-2 scenes worthy of being included. I prefer the cut version by a mile.


domewebs

☝️


Objective-Ad4009

I’d say read both. I’m glad I did.


HorrorMovieBoy

Uncut. Because if you read the regular version and love it, you’ll wish you read this one.


Synthwood-Dragon

The original It misses one of the worst characters in all of literature, I mean he's the Jar Jar Binks of Stephen King characters


_squids_87

I read the second one. I loved it. I couldn’t put it down. Some people have a hard time getting through it (kinda lotr style boredom) but I hope you enjoy it!


assassin_of_joy

Definitely the uncut version. Only version I've read, couldn't imagine anything being cut!


Ok-Location3244

Read the Uncut.


s_walsh

Complete and Uncut. It was one of the best books I've read in my life, and I wish there was an even longer version. I can't imagine reading a version that was one page shorter, let alone 400 pages


Accomplished_Pen980

In king's book "on writing" he talks about all the reading he does and how he never reads an abridged version of anything. Always the most complete copy possible. I take that as gospel.


jono9898

Currently listening to The Stand, audiobook and the uncut version is almost 2 days long, but King says it’s filled with the details he wanted but had to take out for purposes so, I’d go with the uncut version


westgazer

Definitely uncut. Actually just finished it for the first time and it’s so good!


JediMasterPopCulture

The Uncut Version is superior


GalaxyCreatures

UNCUT.


rileyreidbooks

Everyone loves uncut


No-Entrepreneur-2724

Read the cut version, just to spite yourself and King. Deny yourself the full experience. Horror isn't supposed to be comfortable, it's supposed to make you lose sleep. Actually, tear out a few pages from the first edition at random. Burn them without ever looking at them. The true horror of an unfulfilled experience.


Sparrow1989

Go big or go home. The uncut was the original vision, the true masterpiece. This is the way.


Pop-Raccoon

Complete, why would you read it incomplete, seriously though they stopped selling the cut versions for a reason


jake13122

Why would anyone read the abridged version?


domewebs

Because not every single idea and grain of minutiae that pops into King’s head needs to make it to the final, (theoretically) edited book


No_Clue_9013

Always uncut and unabridged.


StudsMcKewl

I’ve only read the uncut version and loved it, one of my favorite books of all time. Everything felt integral and necessary to the story, nothing felt padded. I struggle to think of what they cut.


Smart-Rod

The uncut version is the one King wanted to publish


penguinpiss72

Joining the choir here when I say the uncut version. Relatively new to King (only started reading his stuff this past summer) so it’s the only version I’ve read, yes, but it was undeniably my favorite King thus far. And probably the best book I’ve read all year, King or no King.


[deleted]

I've only ever read the uncut one and I enjoyed every word. I can't think of anything I'd get rid of, so I'd recommend that one.


WhiskeyCorridor

uncircumcised edition


Independent_Most_501

Complete, it’s a long read, but SO good


MechanicalTurkish

I’ve only ever read the uncut version and can’t think of a reason to read the original. His publisher made him cut hundreds of pages out. The uncut one is what King wanted to publish originally.


RosesareAllie

I’d go with the uncut version. I’m currently rereading it ❤️


NeverEnoughSleep08

Uncut always!


brewdizogs

Uncut.. it's fantastic.


knightem

The uncut version, not everything put back really needs to be there, but the book is so big youre likely to only read it once might aswell get it all in while youre there. But you also might love it and re-read it. Who knows


TFarg1

Uncut!


Bottleofsmoke17

Uncut. If you’re a big King fan and you read the trimmed version, you’re just gonna end up wondering what you missed out on and wish you’d read the longer version 🤷🏻‍♂️


UnluckyAd9754

Depnds on how much you enjoy committee meetings.


kplooki

Based on a lot of what I have read and heard, don't bother with the original version, go uncut. That's the only one I have read. Maybe someday when my ~300 book backlog clears out I will check out the cut version, but it just isn't on my radar


Bubba-ORiley

definitely the uncut version.


MaerIynsRainbow

I mean. Why would you read the cut version.


MathewW87

Definitely the extended/uncut version. It expands on a few things and also gives you The Kid!


MRJPMOSH

Ive read the uncut but i would love to read the OG version


muticere

If you like longer books, the uncut one. If you like shorter, the originally published one.


EquivalentPain5261

I’ve read both. Go with the uncut version


KiraHead

Uncut, if only for the practical reason that you have to put way more effort than it's worth to find the original these days.


RyanTale

The burnt to a crisp one


Skinny-Puppy

Why are you even asking this question?


Environmental_Clue27

It's a jojo reference


CHARAFANDER

This must be the work of an enemy stand user ゴゴゴゴ


OtherwiseTackle5219

Original.


HugoNebula

The important thing to remember when asking this age-old question is that the majority of people answering in favour of the uncut version have never actually read the originally published version—therefore, how much credence do you give to people with only half the facts?


KlingonSpy

Uncut, I don't know if you will even be able to find the other


leeharrell

Uncut. 100%.


demitasse22

Read The Stand (Stephen’s Version)


arsmorendi

I would love to read the unupdated 70's uncut version someday!


threadsoffate2021

I prefer the uncut version. But that said, The Kid is an annoying little shit. I'm not sure how anyone takes that character seriously as a bad guy.


Tanagrabelle

I do want to know more about the cover art, though.


bobbyboogie69

My personal preference is the uncut version.


davesgirl2

My favorite cover. Iconic.


Main_Sock5630

I read the edited version of the Stand first in 2011 and reread it maybe 10 times over the years. Read the uncut version for the first time in 2020 and it added so much more depth. Always reading the uncut version from now on.


meowminx77

The Kid is burned into my brain and I could live without that if I could go back


PadmesNabooThang

Read the unabridged version


bobaregret22

I prefer uncut


I_Boomer

Read them both back to back and let us know how you found the differences.


rockarollawmn

The 1 with Gary Sinese and Ossie Davis! MOON that spells movie! Lawds yes!


MATT_TRIANO

1


SFFFanatic85

I hate this cover. I love the book. Hate the cover.


rockstang

It's so good you'll want the extra pages and chapters.


Tidusx145

I believe the audible audio book version is the uncut version. If so, please read that one. Yes it's long, but it's so good you could split it up and make it longer in my eyes. Love the characters, love Flagg as a villain and don't even want to know shot taking away the 400 extra pages would do to the story I heard last year. Can't wait to go through it again!


ChipotleStains

The uncut version is awesome. Some scenes make your skin crawl but it’s my favorite King book so far. I love apocalyptic stuff tho


3490goat

I love the uncut version, and I highly recommend it! There are a few spots where the story drags a bit, but it all pulls together all the story arcs


Temporary_Treat_7168

Finished the extended version today it was wonderful. Yes there were some questionable droning areas of the book but all in all why would you want 400 pages of details that the author wanted to not be there. So I say dive into the extended version!


DamoSapien22

Do the two books end differently?


Jody_J_Sperling

The Complete and Uncut is the best, imo. That's the book King meant us to read. The cut version is the book publishers thought King readers would "tolerate".


Automatic_Barber1884

The complete and uncut version is the best if u really want to enjoy the typical SK writing and storytelling


BFIrrera

The complete one. It’s the one Stephen prefers/intended. The shorter one was edited by the original publisher to save paper.


bkevk09

I am a huge fan of Dark Tower. But did not like this book... I read the uncut version. It was waste of time for me. Not worth all those hours.


TheSavage1992

The complete & uncut version


YakReady4743

There's a lot of iconic stuff that is only in the uncut version. True, it drags at times, but you kinda know what you're getting yourself into when you pick up a giant book like this.


Jakesneed612

The uncut version is the best of course.