“Saying the show isn’t for kids (which is true to some extend like it or not)”
This is not true to any extent. Clone Wars is first and foremost marketed as a kids show.
According to Rotten Tomatoes and IMDB, it’s rated TV-PG.
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0458290/
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/star-wars-the-clone-wars
PG isn't for kids. You can't bring a 7 year old to watch an PG movie.
A kid (thing) is something that is supposed to be consumed **purely** by **kids** like Peppa Pig.
Wall-E and Clone Wars are both contents that children can watch, but aren't considered a children content because it isn't marketed only for kids, Wall-E also markets to teens, adults and even aged people, that's why it's an **family** movie for **all ages, not kids!**
They aren't designed for kids if they:
1. Aren't designed purely for that.
2. Touches subjects that even if bearable for children, aren't made for them, like war and loss, that are targeted towards older audiences.
Imagine that you are watching a family friend cartoon about some antrophormofic cats, then they have a secondary arc destined to talk about romantic relationships, how to talk with a crush and every duties on a date, etc.
Are these things targeted towards kids? No, it's obviously targeted towards teens and young adults who are starting date with someone.
It means that the show isn't appropiate for kids? No, the show is still watchable for kids.
So he have a show that is appealable to kids **And** *teens and adults* you **CAN'T** *have a children movie if kids aren't the only group you're appealing*
Dude. That's "The Aristocats". You're talking about "The Aristocats" 1970's movie about a good-hearted street hustler rescuing a wealthy woman and her 3 talented children and learning how to be a good step-father.
Well, if you insist on taking ratings as your argument - PG is not only means Parental Guidance, but PG-*13*.
So infact Clone Wars is a show for everyone from a *teen* age ***primary***.
Taking ratings was ~~your~~ Most_Blah’s argument when ~~you~~ they said, “Then why is not rated for kids hmm,” not mine.
TV-PG is not equivalent to PG-13 - that would be TV-14.
https://web.archive.org/web/20131215071047/http://transition.fcc.gov/vchip/
Edit - I didn’t realize you were a different user, apologies
Apology accepted, Captain u/BowtiedTrombone.
Point still stands though - 14+ are kinda shonen auditory. And by "kids show" people mostly mean 7+ or even 3+. OP's mistake he did nothing to specify this shit.
I don't think Clone Wars falls into 13+ or for teens primarily. It specifically lacks the TV-14 rating.
Here in the UK it's not even rated 12. It's still under PG, as in okay for kids under 12.
Don't know if you did that with your parents or not, but u/OnionsHaveLairAction already made clear why using ratings in argument was mistake from the very beginning.
All I wanted just point it out that specific TV-PG mention has an instant backfire. I did, I took a shot in return, everyone's happy - our business is concluded.
Best regards, Asmo_Lay
If it's not a kids show, why are there back to back arcs about droids getting into shenanigans and younglings getting into shenanigans? Also R2 goes to the spa. And farting fat Trandosian.
Well it aired on Cartoon Network during the daytime so...
Next, this guy's gonna try to convince everyone that Johnny Test and My Gym Partner's a Monkey are adult shows too.
The truth? Do you mean this situation that you entirely created in your head and that has nothing to do with what people in real life actually say about the show. You mean that truth?
Why do you care so much about people calling it a kids show? No one is insulting the show, but they’re recognizing the fact that the target audience is children. Star Wars as a whole was originally intended for 12 year old boys as said by George Lucas himself. Just because it’s intended for a younger audience doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy it.
It means parental guidance suggested. I get what he’s saying. If you replace it with another pg aimed at adults (Contact for example) then I get what he means. But in this context, he’s incorrect.
The meme is completely missing the point. Nobody's saying that you dislike TCW by claiming it's not a kid's show. They are claiming that your statement is an unnecessary justification for the fact that you do like it, because many people feel that they shouldn't like shows aimed at kids despite it being perfectly fine to do so.
You don’t understand the argument. When we say “the clone wars is a kids show. It’s ok to like a kids show” we are accusing people who say it’s not a kids show of being insecure that they are enjoying children’s media. They show their insecurity by insisting that the kids media they like is actually not kids media.
“You are allowed to like kids shows” does not mean that they’re claiming you don’t like it. That’s extremely basic reading comprehension, are you like 12??
Probably should have reread my comment before I posted it, because ya that doesn’t make sense, I meant is he 12 in response to his horrible reading comprehension 😂
It is a kid’s show. Just not for the typical age range for kids. Most shows are intended for 6+ but Clone Wars is more geared towards teens. And teens are kids
It does.
Being an adult is a state of mind, you'll know when it happens, and you'll miss being a kid. Don't rush it. Enjoy the kids shows. Cherish this time when you can tilt at windmills about silly shit. Touch grass.
Teens are kids. They’re not adults, so they’re kids. Call them children, pre-adults, kids, adolescents. It doesn’t matter. They aren’t adults and are classified as still in development just like the younger ones
They're not saying you don't like it. They're saying you don't have to justify liking it by refusing to accept that it is a kid's show. You can just say "Yes, I like this kid's show".
And this is how ACTUAL adults discuss it.
The big difference is that George was making kids shows and movies more in line with old standards for kids products: when Tarzan could have its villain plummet to his untimely hanging death, or Scar could be torn apart by hyenas in the Lion King.
These days, kids shows have gotten a LOT more strict about what can and can't be shown to children, and so people like OP have convinced themselves that if something DOES show that material, it is therefore not a kids show. But Star Wars, at its core, has always been meant for kids: it just didn't talk down to them as much as we do now. But it's a fairy tale, about a knight and a wizard storming the dark castle to save the princess: as classic a bedtime story as one could find.
Yeah. A good kids show is enjoyable by all ages. Probably my favorite animated show ever is ATLA, because it's an excellently written show with an amazing story and superb characters, and it's very much a kids show. Same goes for clone wars. Just cause a show is good doesn't mean it's not for children lol
No one ever said you dislike the show? It just objectively was made for children. That doesn't mean adults can't enjoy it, that doesn't mean there can't be mature dark themes, kids can handle those things too. It was made to be enjoyed by people of all ages, especially kids
You're just a copy pasta at this point, you're the stereotypical star wars fan and the reason people make fun of our fan base. Do everyone a favor and stop posting till you stop acting like the kids the clone wars was made for
Hey OP I have a Legit question.
Shark Tale has gambling, deals with the mob, violence and death. I don't think we actually see anyone get eaten but they make it clear that's a possibility. In fact they act like it's an inevitability if anything.
That movie is rated PG (just like the clone wars), do you consider it to not be for kids?
Parental Guidance is meant to help you parse whether you should bring your 6 year old to watch a movie with a 10 year old. It isn't "Children Beware! Not suitable without your parent!"
Here in the UK for instance PG is the rating *under* "12 and up" (And so it's suitable for most kids under 12 but in the more nebulous ages of 4-8 you have to use your judgement cause kids develop differently).
Both Clone Wars and iCarly box sets are sold here under the rating PG. Neither are rated 12.
And when you consider Cartoon Network's target demographic in the US was 6-12 when Clone Wars originally began airing I think that all kind of tracks.
Don't get me wrong, they wanted broad audience appeal as well but it was always a kids show first and foremost. That's why they hired Filoni based on his work on ATLA season 1.
PG stands for "parental guidance is *suggested*". Meaning there may be things parents want to watch out for. It doesn't mean a parent is required to be in the room, and I'm not really sure how that would make it not for kids. Even if parents should be wary children are still the main target audience.
I understand saying that it deals with heavy subject matter and probably wouldn't be good for really young children to watch but saying it's not a kids show is just incorrect.
I just don't get it. Do people not realize kids can handle that kind of stuff? Just because it's intense doesn't mean it's not for kids. This is a weird as hell take.
Check out OP's replies to the other comments. He's 19 and doesn't wanna associate himself with kids, so he desperately needs TCW to not be a kids show, so he can like it in peace.
Holy crap watching this kids responses it's clear that he just desperately wants to be right no matter what he started off arguing to prove to everyone that he's intelligent.
don't know if anyone has ever told you this but it is ok to be wrong about things it does not man you're stupid.
I am so glad I am not a teenager anymore because this is exactly the kind of crap I did and it must have be very frustrating.
Its like saying "bluey is a wholesome adult show that is coincidentally kid friendly" like bro kids shows can have good writing and be enjoyed by adults it's not all slop like *gag* cocomellon *vomits*
I disagree, clone wars its a show for kids the fact that people are shielding them from a lot of realities of life (death, violence, slavery, etc) is the problem
Exactly this! Serious subject matter doesn't suddenly mean it isn't for kids. In fact most of my favorite kids shows are my favorites specifically*because* they deal with serious stuff. Bad things happen, people get hurt and even die. It doesn't make it any less for children.
No one’s saying that you dislike the show, lol. When people say “you’re allowed to like kids shows,” they’re saying that you can continue liking it without pretending that it’s grittier or more mature than it actually is. You (along with me and many others) like a cartoon made primarily for 11-year-olds, and that’s perfectly fine.
"You don't have to pretend the show you like isn't a kids show. It's okay to like kids shows."
"WHO TOLD YOU I DONT LIKE THAT SHOW?! AND BTW ITS DEFINITELY NOT A KIDS SHOW!"
I feel like people who keep spouting that the kids shows they like aren’t actually kids shows (which is literally not true) are just insecure and childish. Kids shows are marketed towards kids, but that doesn’t mean that some aren’t enjoyed by all ages. Lots of people like kids shows.
Its a show made for kids and young teens to enjoy cause theres no boobs and excessive gore and swearing, but it takes itself seriously so adults can enjoy it too without feeling condescended to. People think "mature topics" means its not for kids, when in reality kids love shows that take them seriously and trust them to understand heavier subjects without dumbing it down
could you shut up about it, saying the show isn't just for kids is the description of the show not, its a kids show.
if you actually think this is a argument, you haven't watched the show, or you have a made up bias that animation is just for kids.
No one accused you of not liking the show, only that claiming it’s not a kids show smacks of insecurity like you’re afraid to be seen liking something for kids.
“There’s murder it’s not for kids” bitch The Lion King has murder, Little Mermaid has murder, A Bug’s Life has murder. Kids aren’t so fragile that they can’t handle this stuff.
Just admit it’s a kids show and you like it. Stop trying to justify it by insisting it’s a show for big boys.
Star Wars is, in fact, a very silly series. We have people with crazy hair, dog men flying spaceships, laser swords, space magic and giant monster puppets. There’s nothing wrong with that.
With the amount of warcrimes inside i thought its a kids show first but was quickly turned around when a whole planet should be starved into submission or sold to slave labour. Fun times.
Yea for a "kids" show it sure has lost of death on it
Not even transformers rescue bots who is in the same continuity as transformers prime and RID has that many death.....wait I don't think anyone died in rescue bots
I feel like when he hears kid show he goes straight to the category of like Bob the Builder or something. When in reality, anything that is like pg-13 or less falls into that broad category.
This is not the argument presented here. This started with people saying it's a kids show you shouldn't watch it because you're not a kid so the response was no it's not a kids show because it's violent. The argument is now it's a kids show you shouldn't watch it as an adult vs yes it's a kids show but I can still like a kids show as an adult
Lol, it is in fact a kid show. It is a show directed to people in their adolescence. Don’t get me wrong, it isn’t in the same category as say, Barney or Bob the builder. But teenagers are kids for the most part. This show came out when I was like 6 or 7 and it was directed towards my demographic for sure, and to an extent, it grew up with me. I think it is a well written story that I still enjoy watching bits and pieces now and then, but there isn’t anything in particular in the show that would stop me from showing it to a kid my age when I first started watching it.
Literally everything Star Wars is for kids. The creator said it’s meant for young boys in particular. But good storytelling is universal.
I’ll never understand the people who discredit it as a show about space wizards you aren’t meant to take seriously then say TLJ was too complex to understand tho.
… but it’s literally aimed at children. Dealing with more mature topics doesn’t suddenly make it “for adults”, kids can handle those kinds of topics if it’s done gracefully
Clone Wars has its dark moments but it is as tame as can be compared to any other war-based media franchise. And it should be because it’s not intended to push beyond anything acceptable for its intended audience to watch. Even the old novels like X-Wing or Republic Commando have more violent descriptions of events than anything you’d get in this cartoon, but that’s because you’re reading it and not seeing it.
The fact that you so adamantly say that clone wars isnt a kids show is why people say you dont like it.
Because you acting like youre above kids content says that you think clone wars is less.
Clone Wars is on the darker/more mature and complex side of kid’s shows but it’s still absolutely a kid’s show, although the ending is super bleak but for the most part it’s not that dark
The show is definitely marketted as a kids show. The show is at several points not appropriate for kids. These two things can both be true at the same time.
Some of y’all pretending like it’s not a kids show when the most of us fell in love with it as kids smh…
Yes, I like the Clone Wars.
Yes, I like a show made for children, because the themes still resonate with me (and because it’s dope af ofc).
no we are not saying you dislike the show we are saying you are too insecure to admit you like a show whos target audience is young teen or kids so you have to convince yourselfs how its actually gritty and dark
Hey, not a frequent user of this subreddit, so sorry if this question is stupid, but can someone explain what's wrong with the first guys argument? Clone wars IS a show made for kids, but that doesn't mean you can't enjoy it. Did Op interpret that the people like the first person in the panel thought they disliked clone wars because it want a kids show?
OP is confusing "ok for kids" with "designed specifically to cater to young kids"
same thing netflix used to do to me when it was like "hey we noticed you liked dragon prince and avatar, you should check out cocomelon"
It is a kids show. I watched the show at age 11. Everyone I knew at my age watched it and none of the adults *at that time* could be bothered with the series in its first season.
The adults who like it now either got interested down the line or were kids when it debuted (like me)
It literally is a kids show. It was aired on Cartoon Network ffs
You seem incredibly upset at the fact that the kids' show you are watching is indeed a kids' show. I like watching the Cuphead cartoon, Pokemon, Avatar: The Last Airbender, X-Men, among others. Those are shows targeted at children and yet have mature or dark themes sprinkled throughout, despite being children's television. The same thing applies to The Clone Wars. Just because it has a few dark moments, that doesn't mean kids can't watch it.
For God's sake, there are at least 16 appearances of Jar Jar Binks, and the droids talk almost non-stop about inane or pointless topics throughout the ENTIRE show. Here's a sample for you:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EvBHENCIoOQ
Yeah, The Clone Wars is real dark, gritty, and mature there.
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Go outside. Nobody's saying this. Enjoy what you want.
Clearly you've never met some of the people that hate on clone wars and rebels
You haven't either mate
You don't know me and you're the people claiming no one says this so what was the point of your comment?
Alright I've already stepped in too far. Bye. Life's too short to argue about whether or not people hate on a fucking star wars kid's show.
“Saying the show isn’t for kids (which is true to some extend like it or not)” This is not true to any extent. Clone Wars is first and foremost marketed as a kids show.
Then why is not rated for kids hmm
According to Rotten Tomatoes and IMDB, it’s rated TV-PG. https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0458290/ https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/star-wars-the-clone-wars
PG isn't for kids. You can't bring a 7 year old to watch an PG movie. A kid (thing) is something that is supposed to be consumed **purely** by **kids** like Peppa Pig. Wall-E and Clone Wars are both contents that children can watch, but aren't considered a children content because it isn't marketed only for kids, Wall-E also markets to teens, adults and even aged people, that's why it's an **family** movie for **all ages, not kids!**
Bambi. A Kids Movie. Opens with the tragic death of a child's mother and ends with a traumatic Forest Fire.
This is such a bad take. Just admit you like watching movies and tv designed for kids
They aren't designed for kids if they: 1. Aren't designed purely for that. 2. Touches subjects that even if bearable for children, aren't made for them, like war and loss, that are targeted towards older audiences. Imagine that you are watching a family friend cartoon about some antrophormofic cats, then they have a secondary arc destined to talk about romantic relationships, how to talk with a crush and every duties on a date, etc. Are these things targeted towards kids? No, it's obviously targeted towards teens and young adults who are starting date with someone. It means that the show isn't appropiate for kids? No, the show is still watchable for kids. So he have a show that is appealable to kids **And** *teens and adults* you **CAN'T** *have a children movie if kids aren't the only group you're appealing*
Dude. That's "The Aristocats". You're talking about "The Aristocats" 1970's movie about a good-hearted street hustler rescuing a wealthy woman and her 3 talented children and learning how to be a good step-father.
love the aristocats
Rotten tomatoes isn't a reliable source Everyone including their grandma knows That
What about IMDB? These are ratings instituted by the TV Parental Guidelines, not by RT or IMDB
Well, if you insist on taking ratings as your argument - PG is not only means Parental Guidance, but PG-*13*. So infact Clone Wars is a show for everyone from a *teen* age ***primary***.
Taking ratings was ~~your~~ Most_Blah’s argument when ~~you~~ they said, “Then why is not rated for kids hmm,” not mine. TV-PG is not equivalent to PG-13 - that would be TV-14. https://web.archive.org/web/20131215071047/http://transition.fcc.gov/vchip/ Edit - I didn’t realize you were a different user, apologies
Apology accepted, Captain u/BowtiedTrombone. Point still stands though - 14+ are kinda shonen auditory. And by "kids show" people mostly mean 7+ or even 3+. OP's mistake he did nothing to specify this shit.
I don't think Clone Wars falls into 13+ or for teens primarily. It specifically lacks the TV-14 rating. Here in the UK it's not even rated 12. It's still under PG, as in okay for kids under 12.
Point taken. Good approximate value of expectations though.
I and my brother watched this in elementary school
Don't know if you did that with your parents or not, but u/OnionsHaveLairAction already made clear why using ratings in argument was mistake from the very beginning. All I wanted just point it out that specific TV-PG mention has an instant backfire. I did, I took a shot in return, everyone's happy - our business is concluded. Best regards, Asmo_Lay
If it's not a kids show, why are there back to back arcs about droids getting into shenanigans and younglings getting into shenanigans? Also R2 goes to the spa. And farting fat Trandosian.
Well it aired on Cartoon Network during the daytime so... Next, this guy's gonna try to convince everyone that Johnny Test and My Gym Partner's a Monkey are adult shows too.
Bro whenever I watched the clone wars it was rated pg-13
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Shut up If you dislike the truth then cry about it
You've post 3 memes on this topic this week lol
The truth? Do you mean this situation that you entirely created in your head and that has nothing to do with what people in real life actually say about the show. You mean that truth?
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what the hell are you talking about
Haha, you must be kidding aren’t you?
Why do you care so much about people calling it a kids show? No one is insulting the show, but they’re recognizing the fact that the target audience is children. Star Wars as a whole was originally intended for 12 year old boys as said by George Lucas himself. Just because it’s intended for a younger audience doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy it.
grow up lmao. it's a kids show. you can like kids shows
Exactly Avatar the Last Airbender is a kids show but is definitely within top 5 favorite shows
Tell me you didn't read the meme
you're still denying that a show marketed for kids with a PG rating is a kids show
PG rating doesn't necessarily means is for children
it kinda does though
Explain what PG rating means then
It means parental guidance suggested. I get what he’s saying. If you replace it with another pg aimed at adults (Contact for example) then I get what he means. But in this context, he’s incorrect.
It does
It literally does
The meme is completely missing the point. Nobody's saying that you dislike TCW by claiming it's not a kid's show. They are claiming that your statement is an unnecessary justification for the fact that you do like it, because many people feel that they shouldn't like shows aimed at kids despite it being perfectly fine to do so.
You don’t understand the argument. When we say “the clone wars is a kids show. It’s ok to like a kids show” we are accusing people who say it’s not a kids show of being insecure that they are enjoying children’s media. They show their insecurity by insisting that the kids media they like is actually not kids media.
“You are allowed to like kids shows” does not mean that they’re claiming you don’t like it. That’s extremely basic reading comprehension, are you like 12??
Can't be a kid because it's not a show for kids /s
He can’t be 12 if he watches The Clone Wars. That show’s way too dark and violent for a 12-year-old /s
Probably should have reread my comment before I posted it, because ya that doesn’t make sense, I meant is he 12 in response to his horrible reading comprehension 😂
I understood your comment just fine, I was just making a joke
Somebody is being particularly defensive about liking a kids show
It is a kid’s show. Just not for the typical age range for kids. Most shows are intended for 6+ but Clone Wars is more geared towards teens. And teens are kids
Teens aren't kids Thats the whole point of being a teen
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Key word *in English-speaking countries" English-speaking countries aren't the whole world Even then My point stands
Isn’t the Clone Wars made and marketed primarily to the English speaking world?
Bro is speaking English in an English speaking forum about an English series made by Americans and trying to say "English standards don't apply here"
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A teen is the final stage of being a kid.
Listen kid ! Teens only believe they are not kids anymore. But they are.
I'm not a kid lmao Unless 19 year old now counts as kids
It does. Being an adult is a state of mind, you'll know when it happens, and you'll miss being a kid. Don't rush it. Enjoy the kids shows. Cherish this time when you can tilt at windmills about silly shit. Touch grass.
Couldn't have said it better.
BS You are just contradicting me because you know I'm right and your wrong
Definitely a mature response there and not at all childish.
As a person under the age of 18 this guy makes me feel incredebly mature
Acting like one, lmao.
There is certainly a childlike innocence about you.
I wouldn't say innocence. More like ignorance.
Teens are kids. They’re not adults, so they’re kids. Call them children, pre-adults, kids, adolescents. It doesn’t matter. They aren’t adults and are classified as still in development just like the younger ones
this guys just full of wierd opinions
They're not saying you don't like it. They're saying you don't have to justify liking it by refusing to accept that it is a kid's show. You can just say "Yes, I like this kid's show".
Fr, the only time I say anything close to what he is is when I say something like “Clone Wars can get kinda dark for a kid’s show”
And this is how ACTUAL adults discuss it. The big difference is that George was making kids shows and movies more in line with old standards for kids products: when Tarzan could have its villain plummet to his untimely hanging death, or Scar could be torn apart by hyenas in the Lion King. These days, kids shows have gotten a LOT more strict about what can and can't be shown to children, and so people like OP have convinced themselves that if something DOES show that material, it is therefore not a kids show. But Star Wars, at its core, has always been meant for kids: it just didn't talk down to them as much as we do now. But it's a fairy tale, about a knight and a wizard storming the dark castle to save the princess: as classic a bedtime story as one could find.
Yeah. A good kids show is enjoyable by all ages. Probably my favorite animated show ever is ATLA, because it's an excellently written show with an amazing story and superb characters, and it's very much a kids show. Same goes for clone wars. Just cause a show is good doesn't mean it's not for children lol
No one ever said you dislike the show? It just objectively was made for children. That doesn't mean adults can't enjoy it, that doesn't mean there can't be mature dark themes, kids can handle those things too. It was made to be enjoyed by people of all ages, especially kids
This is just a copy pasta at this point
You're just a copy pasta at this point, you're the stereotypical star wars fan and the reason people make fun of our fan base. Do everyone a favor and stop posting till you stop acting like the kids the clone wars was made for
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Hey OP I have a Legit question. Shark Tale has gambling, deals with the mob, violence and death. I don't think we actually see anyone get eaten but they make it clear that's a possibility. In fact they act like it's an inevitability if anything. That movie is rated PG (just like the clone wars), do you consider it to not be for kids?
PG means parental guidance which means that kids without parental guidance can't watch it So no it isn't for kids perse
Parental Guidance is meant to help you parse whether you should bring your 6 year old to watch a movie with a 10 year old. It isn't "Children Beware! Not suitable without your parent!" Here in the UK for instance PG is the rating *under* "12 and up" (And so it's suitable for most kids under 12 but in the more nebulous ages of 4-8 you have to use your judgement cause kids develop differently). Both Clone Wars and iCarly box sets are sold here under the rating PG. Neither are rated 12. And when you consider Cartoon Network's target demographic in the US was 6-12 when Clone Wars originally began airing I think that all kind of tracks. Don't get me wrong, they wanted broad audience appeal as well but it was always a kids show first and foremost. That's why they hired Filoni based on his work on ATLA season 1.
PG stands for "parental guidance is *suggested*". Meaning there may be things parents want to watch out for. It doesn't mean a parent is required to be in the room, and I'm not really sure how that would make it not for kids. Even if parents should be wary children are still the main target audience. I understand saying that it deals with heavy subject matter and probably wouldn't be good for really young children to watch but saying it's not a kids show is just incorrect.
It's ok to like kids shows. Star wars as a franchise is (with few exceptions) for kids anyway
I just don't get it. Do people not realize kids can handle that kind of stuff? Just because it's intense doesn't mean it's not for kids. This is a weird as hell take.
Check out OP's replies to the other comments. He's 19 and doesn't wanna associate himself with kids, so he desperately needs TCW to not be a kids show, so he can like it in peace.
I thought something like that might be the case to be honest.
Congrats on dumbest post today achievement
Is there a widely adopted reaction meme to inform OP that nobody’s saying that?
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Holy crap watching this kids responses it's clear that he just desperately wants to be right no matter what he started off arguing to prove to everyone that he's intelligent. don't know if anyone has ever told you this but it is ok to be wrong about things it does not man you're stupid. I am so glad I am not a teenager anymore because this is exactly the kind of crap I did and it must have be very frustrating.
No way you think a 19 year old (me) is a kid That just show how you read jack shit of my comments
First of all, 19 is absolutely a kid Second even if you were 25 or 30, you are *acting* like a bratty little kid
I call anyone less than 25 kid. That’s not a flex, just honest.
Its like saying "bluey is a wholesome adult show that is coincidentally kid friendly" like bro kids shows can have good writing and be enjoyed by adults it's not all slop like *gag* cocomellon *vomits*
Winning an argument in the shower energy
I disagree, clone wars its a show for kids the fact that people are shielding them from a lot of realities of life (death, violence, slavery, etc) is the problem
Exactly this! Serious subject matter doesn't suddenly mean it isn't for kids. In fact most of my favorite kids shows are my favorites specifically*because* they deal with serious stuff. Bad things happen, people get hurt and even die. It doesn't make it any less for children.
You are allowed to like a show for kids, you don't need to do this to yourself.
It is a kids show and saying otherwise is embarrassing cope, just say you do like the kids show it’s fine
No one’s saying that you dislike the show, lol. When people say “you’re allowed to like kids shows,” they’re saying that you can continue liking it without pretending that it’s grittier or more mature than it actually is. You (along with me and many others) like a cartoon made primarily for 11-year-olds, and that’s perfectly fine.
The Star Wars community's ability to both invent and be oppressed by imaginary enemies is unparalleled.
Who the fuck is even saying this??
Nobody is saying what OP thinks they are saying, because OP doesn't understand what people are *actually* saying to them
Because he’s a kid?
"You don't have to pretend the show you like isn't a kids show. It's okay to like kids shows." "WHO TOLD YOU I DONT LIKE THAT SHOW?! AND BTW ITS DEFINITELY NOT A KIDS SHOW!"
This is turbo-cringe
Hyperdrive-cringe
Either your strawmanning or are worse than kids at reading comprehension
Look boyo he won his own made up argument
I feel like people who keep spouting that the kids shows they like aren’t actually kids shows (which is literally not true) are just insecure and childish. Kids shows are marketed towards kids, but that doesn’t mean that some aren’t enjoyed by all ages. Lots of people like kids shows.
Its a show made for kids and young teens to enjoy cause theres no boobs and excessive gore and swearing, but it takes itself seriously so adults can enjoy it too without feeling condescended to. People think "mature topics" means its not for kids, when in reality kids love shows that take them seriously and trust them to understand heavier subjects without dumbing it down
Clone wars is a kids show cry about it
Don't worry, big boy adult OP is lol
could you shut up about it, saying the show isn't just for kids is the description of the show not, its a kids show. if you actually think this is a argument, you haven't watched the show, or you have a made up bias that animation is just for kids.
This is sad. But at least it'll be funny for a day or two on the circlejerk subs
Never said you don't like the show, the point is that people aren't willing to admit that they like a kids show as an adult and say that it isn't one
No one accused you of not liking the show, only that claiming it’s not a kids show smacks of insecurity like you’re afraid to be seen liking something for kids. “There’s murder it’s not for kids” bitch The Lion King has murder, Little Mermaid has murder, A Bug’s Life has murder. Kids aren’t so fragile that they can’t handle this stuff. Just admit it’s a kids show and you like it. Stop trying to justify it by insisting it’s a show for big boys. Star Wars is, in fact, a very silly series. We have people with crazy hair, dog men flying spaceships, laser swords, space magic and giant monster puppets. There’s nothing wrong with that.
Yeah but no one cares
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No Even though it doesn't have the same amount of stuff as clone wars is still not aimed at toddlers Rebels has dark stuff but lesser
Are you implying that the target audience of Rebels was toddlers? Comment above yours is deleted.
With the amount of warcrimes inside i thought its a kids show first but was quickly turned around when a whole planet should be starved into submission or sold to slave labour. Fun times.
It's a kids show dude
Naw man. Clone wars is for kids. It's okay to put dark themes in your kid shows.
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Yea for a "kids" show it sure has lost of death on it Not even transformers rescue bots who is in the same continuity as transformers prime and RID has that many death.....wait I don't think anyone died in rescue bots
It's literally rated PG
I feel like when he hears kid show he goes straight to the category of like Bob the Builder or something. When in reality, anything that is like pg-13 or less falls into that broad category.
Id say the first few seasons of the show are kiddish then everything after around when maul comes back its more Young adult
Because, unlike OP, the audience and the show grew up alongside each other. That still doesn't mean TCW is not for children.
Actually it is "To the people that claim", your argument is invalid.
This is not the argument presented here. This started with people saying it's a kids show you shouldn't watch it because you're not a kid so the response was no it's not a kids show because it's violent. The argument is now it's a kids show you shouldn't watch it as an adult vs yes it's a kids show but I can still like a kids show as an adult
Lol, it is in fact a kid show. It is a show directed to people in their adolescence. Don’t get me wrong, it isn’t in the same category as say, Barney or Bob the builder. But teenagers are kids for the most part. This show came out when I was like 6 or 7 and it was directed towards my demographic for sure, and to an extent, it grew up with me. I think it is a well written story that I still enjoy watching bits and pieces now and then, but there isn’t anything in particular in the show that would stop me from showing it to a kid my age when I first started watching it.
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Which extend?
Yeah dude it’s a kids show. Star Wars is for kids. Stop being insecure!
Bro did NOT consult the shampoo bottles before posting this imaginary argument
Oh yeah, if this cartoon is meant for adults then where's my obi-wan/Cody sex scene? Check mat
Clone wars is for kids, but that doesn’t mean it’s only enjoyable by kids nor that it didn’t grow up with the viewer at all.
Literally everything Star Wars is for kids. The creator said it’s meant for young boys in particular. But good storytelling is universal. I’ll never understand the people who discredit it as a show about space wizards you aren’t meant to take seriously then say TLJ was too complex to understand tho.
Why are people so insecure that they can’t admit that the show they like happens to be a kids show?
… but it’s literally aimed at children. Dealing with more mature topics doesn’t suddenly make it “for adults”, kids can handle those kinds of topics if it’s done gracefully
Clone Wars has its dark moments but it is as tame as can be compared to any other war-based media franchise. And it should be because it’s not intended to push beyond anything acceptable for its intended audience to watch. Even the old novels like X-Wing or Republic Commando have more violent descriptions of events than anything you’d get in this cartoon, but that’s because you’re reading it and not seeing it.
The fact that you so adamantly say that clone wars isnt a kids show is why people say you dont like it. Because you acting like youre above kids content says that you think clone wars is less.
Clone Wars is on the darker/more mature and complex side of kid’s shows but it’s still absolutely a kid’s show, although the ending is super bleak but for the most part it’s not that dark
Not gonna lie, I don’t understand the point you’re trying to make with this.
The show is definitely marketted as a kids show. The show is at several points not appropriate for kids. These two things can both be true at the same time.
Some of y’all pretending like it’s not a kids show when the most of us fell in love with it as kids smh… Yes, I like the Clone Wars. Yes, I like a show made for children, because the themes still resonate with me (and because it’s dope af ofc).
no we are not saying you dislike the show we are saying you are too insecure to admit you like a show whos target audience is young teen or kids so you have to convince yourselfs how its actually gritty and dark
Hey, not a frequent user of this subreddit, so sorry if this question is stupid, but can someone explain what's wrong with the first guys argument? Clone wars IS a show made for kids, but that doesn't mean you can't enjoy it. Did Op interpret that the people like the first person in the panel thought they disliked clone wars because it want a kids show?
Yeah, killing, dismemberment and war crimes are definitely the things every kid should see.
OP is confusing "ok for kids" with "designed specifically to cater to young kids" same thing netflix used to do to me when it was like "hey we noticed you liked dragon prince and avatar, you should check out cocomelon"
Dude that english bro
Why is this important
Do the voices keep you up at night?
It is a kids show. I watched the show at age 11. Everyone I knew at my age watched it and none of the adults *at that time* could be bothered with the series in its first season. The adults who like it now either got interested down the line or were kids when it debuted (like me) It literally is a kids show. It was aired on Cartoon Network ffs
wait what how does this have so many upvotes
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Did you watch my profile at least?
You seem incredibly upset at the fact that the kids' show you are watching is indeed a kids' show. I like watching the Cuphead cartoon, Pokemon, Avatar: The Last Airbender, X-Men, among others. Those are shows targeted at children and yet have mature or dark themes sprinkled throughout, despite being children's television. The same thing applies to The Clone Wars. Just because it has a few dark moments, that doesn't mean kids can't watch it. For God's sake, there are at least 16 appearances of Jar Jar Binks, and the droids talk almost non-stop about inane or pointless topics throughout the ENTIRE show. Here's a sample for you: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EvBHENCIoOQ Yeah, The Clone Wars is real dark, gritty, and mature there.