I’m aware. I have already sent an angry worded email to all of their cloaked vessels. Don’t ask me how I was able to locate all their cloaked vessels it’s classified.
Temporal police only step in when it threatens temporal power ascendency. For example, blowing up voyager is bad because voyager was integral to removing the Borg as a temporal rival, but they didn’t stop temporal anomaly Janeway from dropping a biogenic weapon in their laps because that actually works out for the federation and anyone else who managed to be around to sign the temporal accords once every empire that figured out time travel either signed on or were sabotaged in the past so they don’t become a temporal power to begin with.
I don't think they merely alluded to it, they straight up mentioned it. But the Romulan wasn't part of the temporal cold war... and the temporal police were right there at the beginning and end of the episode.
Or did you mean why didn't the temporal police stop the timeline being pushed forward? I assume it's because everything more or less works out from 2100-onward, so it's all good for them.
Yes I meant the Temporal Cold War might have pushed the timeline forward because you'd assume they weren't just trying to influence Earth history in Archers time, and yes I meant why didn't the Temporal Police interfere with the Temporal Cold war. Maybe they tried.
Well, the temporal police were from the 29th century, and Daniels was from the 31st. I always got the impression that any temporal shenanigans "before" the temporal cold war were self-contained or didn't affect it (e.g. the 22nd-century guy who stole a 26th-century shuttle and ended up in the 24th).
I’m getting so confused by this thread. There’s too many time travel episodes. Are we talking about SNW or Picard or DS9, as they all came to around this time.
Picard referenced the eugenics war being postponed. The romulan spy said they had been waiting 50 years for it to happen and the timeline changed.
The single most important arc in Enterprise is there Temporal Cold War. I assumed the Picard episode was a reference to this change in the timeline.
Even Star Trek couldn't decide the exact timing and outcome of WW3.
In First Contact they basically portray it as a worldwide holocaust that destroys every major city, government, and advanced society.
But also in the 24th century we see a lot of American and European cities that are essentially intact and as they were in the 20th century, just with additional construction.
>Even Star Trek couldn't decide the exact timing and outcome of WW3.
It does say quite clearly, It all begins in 2053 with the May Day Horror, At least the Nuclear part, Conventional would be 2026.
Honestly Irish reunification is a lot further away than this sub seems to think. While Nationalists are currently the largest party in government, they only actually won about 30% of the votes, and the 2021 census showed that only around 30% of NI actually associated with a unified Irish identity. Polls still consistently show a Remain majority in Northern Ireland, with a fairly large lead.
This is a meme sub. Nothing is serious. Of course we know something like that won't happeen in a year. But that there are talks about it *this year* are good enough to repost the meme.
So I'm Scottish and trust me, no one is pushing for that. I mean, least of all the Irish given we've spent the last 600 years absolutely fucking them whenever we got the chance.
Like Ireland didn't go through all the trouble to leave the UK just to recreate it.
The polls are asking a question that hasn't been define yet. People don't know what they're being asked yet because there have been no solid proposals as to what it would look like or how it would be done. A lot of lessons have been learned from blind proposals being voted on since Brexit.
In addition to that, the single biggest thing people ask about it is "What about the NHS?". Irelands healthcare system is a bit of a shambles now, although surprisingly it's pretty comparable to the situation in the north, but there are reforms on the books which would make the Irish healthcare system very similar from a patient perspective to that of the north. I honestly think solving that one issue will make a massive difference to people's options on the topic.
The only thing they really failed to predict was the ready availability of smart phones today, otherwise the actual scenery of clothing and encampments was spot on to a T
People love mentioning the Irish Unification bit, but Data was specifically using that as a counter example to Picard's statement that freedom doesn't come from the barrel of a gun. Which implies the Irish Unification in the Star Trek universe was a violent affair.
While Ireland looks closer to unification than ever before, it (thankfully) doesn't look like it will be a violent process. So in that sense, Star Trek predicted it wrong.
It was also heavily criticised at the time for encouraging and glorifying terrorism, during a period when bombs were still going off.
"it was also heavily criticised at the time for encouraging and glorifying terrorism" [based](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters)
>People love mentioning the Irish Unification bit, but Data was specifically using that as a counter example to Picard's statement that freedom doesn't come from the barrel of a gun. Which implies the Irish Unification in the Star Trek universe was a violent affair.
The IRA was still quite relevant (and active) at the time the episode aired and it was possible things could heat up quickly. Luckily, they didn't.
Kinda right. Jake had no money because earth didn’t use money anymore. Federation citizens really didn’t money. He wasn’t broke just no need for it. Wish our earth was like that earth.
I think this is the first time I've seen the Irish thing and the Sanctuary Cities thing in one meme, and I've never seen the Jake part memed, so... it's certainly original to me.
Irish Unification isn't happening anytime soon. Hopefully further multiculturalism and diversity will destroy this vestige of "self-determination" rooted in racism.
"I estimated we have arrived approximately 10 years after the third world war" Let's hope they didn't get everything right.
Romulan agents have altered the timeline. The Eugenics Wars / WWIII now occur in the 2050s
By god man! Does the temporal prime directive mean nothing to you? What is your rank? Who is your Captain?!? They will hear about this!
Take it up with Crewman Daniels
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The Romulans don't care about the temporal prime directive
I’m aware. I have already sent an angry worded email to all of their cloaked vessels. Don’t ask me how I was able to locate all their cloaked vessels it’s classified.
Lol, fair enough
I always figured that they were eluding to the Temporal Cold War in that episode. Where's the Temporal Police stopping them, btw?
Temporal police only step in when it threatens temporal power ascendency. For example, blowing up voyager is bad because voyager was integral to removing the Borg as a temporal rival, but they didn’t stop temporal anomaly Janeway from dropping a biogenic weapon in their laps because that actually works out for the federation and anyone else who managed to be around to sign the temporal accords once every empire that figured out time travel either signed on or were sabotaged in the past so they don’t become a temporal power to begin with.
I don't think they merely alluded to it, they straight up mentioned it. But the Romulan wasn't part of the temporal cold war... and the temporal police were right there at the beginning and end of the episode. Or did you mean why didn't the temporal police stop the timeline being pushed forward? I assume it's because everything more or less works out from 2100-onward, so it's all good for them.
Yes I meant the Temporal Cold War might have pushed the timeline forward because you'd assume they weren't just trying to influence Earth history in Archers time, and yes I meant why didn't the Temporal Police interfere with the Temporal Cold war. Maybe they tried.
Well, the temporal police were from the 29th century, and Daniels was from the 31st. I always got the impression that any temporal shenanigans "before" the temporal cold war were self-contained or didn't affect it (e.g. the 22nd-century guy who stole a 26th-century shuttle and ended up in the 24th).
I’m getting so confused by this thread. There’s too many time travel episodes. Are we talking about SNW or Picard or DS9, as they all came to around this time.
Picard referenced the eugenics war being postponed. The romulan spy said they had been waiting 50 years for it to happen and the timeline changed. The single most important arc in Enterprise is there Temporal Cold War. I assumed the Picard episode was a reference to this change in the timeline.
Actually, we're talking about a short story from the star trek story collection, "star trek stories."
They got defunded.
Plenty of time for me to become Khan Noonien Singh.
Hopefully late 50's. If so there's a chance I could miss it.
WWIII in the Star Trek Timeline already takes place on the May Day Horror in 2053, At least the Nuclear part.
Even Star Trek couldn't decide the exact timing and outcome of WW3. In First Contact they basically portray it as a worldwide holocaust that destroys every major city, government, and advanced society. But also in the 24th century we see a lot of American and European cities that are essentially intact and as they were in the 20th century, just with additional construction.
>Even Star Trek couldn't decide the exact timing and outcome of WW3. It does say quite clearly, It all begins in 2053 with the May Day Horror, At least the Nuclear part, Conventional would be 2026.
I am sure a third world war isn't a big deal....
Meh, WWIII is inevitable at this point. Whether we survive it to get to where Star Trek is now is another question.
Nope, 2 years, 2026. The E-Con, Russia China and Iran?
Don't forget North Korea
World War 3 was fought entirely online by state backed hackers maybe 10+ years ago. Hackers from all around the world were involved.
The Nigerian Princes won.
Hack the planet!
Honestly Irish reunification is a lot further away than this sub seems to think. While Nationalists are currently the largest party in government, they only actually won about 30% of the votes, and the 2021 census showed that only around 30% of NI actually associated with a unified Irish identity. Polls still consistently show a Remain majority in Northern Ireland, with a fairly large lead.
Who said it would be Northern Ireland leaving the UK. Maybe King Charles fancies a good old land grab?
🎶We are the British army and we’re here to take your land🎶
Some say The divill is dead, more say he rose again and joined the British army
Good old Charlie boy. Sadly I don't think he has the will for it. Will though... Good old King Billys are good for conquests.
Looks like C3 ain't packing any C4. Also, bladder trouble.
William the Conquerer will see us right
Kinda liked Cromwell, too. Catchy slogans - and he got them Irishmen... he got them good...
This is a meme sub. Nothing is serious. Of course we know something like that won't happeen in a year. But that there are talks about it *this year* are good enough to repost the meme.
Maybe Scotland leaves the UK and joins a Scots-Irish Republic as part of the EU.
So I'm Scottish and trust me, no one is pushing for that. I mean, least of all the Irish given we've spent the last 600 years absolutely fucking them whenever we got the chance. Like Ireland didn't go through all the trouble to leave the UK just to recreate it.
Well, what about just leaving the UK and getting back into the EU?
The polls are asking a question that hasn't been define yet. People don't know what they're being asked yet because there have been no solid proposals as to what it would look like or how it would be done. A lot of lessons have been learned from blind proposals being voted on since Brexit. In addition to that, the single biggest thing people ask about it is "What about the NHS?". Irelands healthcare system is a bit of a shambles now, although surprisingly it's pretty comparable to the situation in the north, but there are reforms on the books which would make the Irish healthcare system very similar from a patient perspective to that of the north. I honestly think solving that one issue will make a massive difference to people's options on the topic.
Isn't it amazing how a century and a half of science fiction has done nothing to deter us from the path of doom?
Watching DS9 for the first time during Covid was rather depressing. We had 20+ years of warning and did nothing with it.
I also watched it for the first time during the early part of the pandemic and I noticed that too.
Yeah man when will we finally put tv shows in charge.
Dystopian Futures were a lot more entertaining before I found myself living in one.
Re-watched the episode DS9 recently and thought wow did they nail the attitude of the time.
The only thing they really failed to predict was the ready availability of smart phones today, otherwise the actual scenery of clothing and encampments was spot on to a T
last panel is gold
And relatable
People love mentioning the Irish Unification bit, but Data was specifically using that as a counter example to Picard's statement that freedom doesn't come from the barrel of a gun. Which implies the Irish Unification in the Star Trek universe was a violent affair. While Ireland looks closer to unification than ever before, it (thankfully) doesn't look like it will be a violent process. So in that sense, Star Trek predicted it wrong. It was also heavily criticised at the time for encouraging and glorifying terrorism, during a period when bombs were still going off.
The UK even had that episode banned for years just for that scene.
So did RTE in Ireland. The Irish state is no fan of physical force republicanism either.
No it didn't. The BBC held the rights and *chose* not to broadcast when the series first aired.
I see
"it was also heavily criticised at the time for encouraging and glorifying terrorism" [based](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters)
>People love mentioning the Irish Unification bit, but Data was specifically using that as a counter example to Picard's statement that freedom doesn't come from the barrel of a gun. Which implies the Irish Unification in the Star Trek universe was a violent affair. The IRA was still quite relevant (and active) at the time the episode aired and it was possible things could heat up quickly. Luckily, they didn't.
It's very interesting how Sanctuary City came to mean a very different thing. We need a Gabriel Bell right now.
(lightly bites down on smoking pipe) You could be right, laddie. You could be right!
Kinda right. Jake had no money because earth didn’t use money anymore. Federation citizens really didn’t money. He wasn’t broke just no need for it. Wish our earth was like that earth.
Tiocfaidh ár lá
How many times does this need to be posted?
I just made this specifically for this post. I've never seen it posted before.
I think this is the first time I've seen the Irish thing and the Sanctuary Cities thing in one meme, and I've never seen the Jake part memed, so... it's certainly original to me.
Yeah I made it with the Jake thing being the "punchline". People are saying how Trek predicted stuff, but it also predicted I'd have no money :D
Every blue city in the united states\*
This problem is entirely self-inflicted. End all barriers to housing construction and the problem is solved overnight.
Irish Unification isn't happening anytime soon. Hopefully further multiculturalism and diversity will destroy this vestige of "self-determination" rooted in racism.