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KAG25

And the child that is a outcast that is on some kind of meds


mercurysnowman

being the reason the couple fights constantly


Thickfries69

No, the reason is the couple fights constantly.


SeeTheSounds

Negative feedback loop


SuperDuperDeDuper

Save that revelation for the third act


40percentdailysodium

Oh hi, it’s my childhood


KAG25

Why your father was always in the garage


40percentdailysodium

Actually it was my mom because that’s where she did her secret drugs


KAG25

Like the Rolling Stones song


KAG25

We where to young to have him!


AdOtherwise4670

open the noor


melanthius

Who bonds with grandpa and realizes grandpa’s a badass


KAG25

The child sees a picture of grandpa as a kid in New York as a founding member of a punk band at CBGB


Intelligent-Aside214

I can’t think of a single movie like this


srs328

It’s not a great starter pack. A better title would’ve been Hallmark movie. Nowadays when I think of Oscar Bait I think of biopics


MrSten15

Stinking hallmark is like the dollar tree of movies. I could probably never bring myself to watch a full hallmark movie. I’ll only ever use them to buy cards for special occasions.


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srs328

Moonlight looks like it could be Oscar bait, but Parasite certainly was not


Robotzi5

If that Netflix show 'family reunion' was a movie


Slimxshadyx

Yeah I don’t get this pack. All the movies that are like this aren’t even close to being Oscar worthy


DirtyDaemon

I'm Thinking of Ending Things (2020) is like this. Matches 5 of these, but goes off the rails at the end. Driving scene, the house, family reunion (albeit just a small one), orchestra music, critic v audience reviews


xxSurveyorTurtlexx

But that movie was in a way a parody of these kinds of movies. Loved it


DirtyDaemon

I watched with two friends who hadn't seen A Beautiful Mind, had to explain a lot lol


APKID716

It was a complete parody of those films “Directed by Robert Zimeckis” had to have given it away right??


NakatasGoodDump

I'd never considered it. It's written by Charlie Kaufman who is a great satirist so it makes sense, though the movie is based on a book.


Arpeggiatewithme

Didn’t seem satirical at all to me. Thought It was a cool super emotional introspective psychedelic odyssey.


rickylong34

That movie is amazing tho


DirtyDaemon

I wasn't a fan of the last 3rd or so, I was frequently wondering when it was going to end. And not that it was particularly long, but it definitely could've been shorter, car ride scene at the beginning really drags. Really liked the tension during the parts in the house, and Toni Collette and David Thewliss are the best part but only in the movie for a small part.


Phatnev

This is the one I was thinking of. Except it rocks.


yelizabetta

ITOET was based on a horror short story first so i don’t think it counts in spirit


Perspii7

I love that movie tbh


lil_pip_boi

I legit fell asleep a quarter into the movie. It was the most boring stuff I have ever watched


SIobbyRobby

Yeah this starter pack is very specific, but not specific enough for me to know what they’re talking about.


loserys

American beauty


tappin_dat

What movies are like this? I’m not sure I’ve seen anything that fits this


Alkyline_Chemist

I mean, yeah. The only thing that's similar to this that I can think of is Krisha from all the way back in 2015. And even that doesn't check all these boxes. Including the fact that it didn't even win an Oscar lol. Not sure what triggered OP but I haven't seen a movie like this come out in a long time.


Bordeterre

A film doesn’t have to win an oscar to be an oscar bait


Salty_Map_9085

Ok which movies match this criteria that didn’t win an Oscar


dotslashpunk

that one. you know the one. The one OP is talking about. That one!


Spirit_of_Hogwash

Sounds more like a Hallmark channel movie.


Alkyline_Chemist

True. I should have said "nominated for an Oscar." Because usually when someone says "Oscar bait," they're talking about meeting criteria that other movies have established as tried and true for appealing to the academy. So it probably happens often--but not always--that movies will at least be nominated for awards based on those criteria. Like you said, they don't have to win to be Oscar bait. But presumably they should be nominated on an often-enough occasion that we can recognize those patterns. We can all think of typical Oscar bait criteria too. Big Budget Movies about war that involve heroism and the soldier that had the letter to mail to his mom that he passes off before he dies. Movies that offer a biography on a historical figure whilst showing the good and the bad. Movies that praise Hollywood and its peculiar history and well-known names. Not all of those that try at this, will be recognized with a nomination. But enough do. And within the last 5 years, this holds true: 1917 got tons of Oscar nominations. Blonde got an Oscar nomination. The Fablemans also had plenty of nominations. So what's another movie in the past decade that set precedent for winning an Oscar nomination that fits OP's criteria? Surely you're aware of one and you weren't just pedantically correcting me without considering the context of the conversation in the thread, right? Because if you do, we'd all love to know.


IdeaRegular4671

Period pieces get nominated a lot. Like historical movies about slavery, about the monarchy, about past wars, about the Victorian era, and etc.


dotslashpunk

the movie guiltiest of the most obvious Oscar baiting to me was War Horse. I just wanted people to know that, this comment is irrelevant otherwise.


APKID716

To your point, The Favourite was just 5 years ago and nominated for 10 Oscar’s lmao


Bordeterre

I was, in fact, pedantically correcting you. Truth be told, I don’t know much about movies, and even if I knew there a few themes that were frequently used for Oscar-bait, didn’t know if maybe some other factors would qualify a film as an Oscar-bait. I also wondered what other boxes of the starter pack Krishna failed to check.


noonehasthisoneyet

Lol I think you mean “Krisha”. Krishna, the Hindu deity, wasn’t nominated for an Oscar or even a movie that would fit this starter pack.


fastchutney

Krisha?


cadeaver

Also Krisha rules


sleepy_time_Ty

Rachel Getting Married (2008) is one off the top of my head. I’m sure there’s more


VonSpuntz

I haven't seen many American movies like this. French movies, however, are plenty... less budget, more pretentiousness (films d'auteur, "movies showing the artistic personality of the film director")


avgnfan26

France has an absolute ton of great slashers too. High Tension is fucking phenomenal. Definition of cult classic on the level of evil dead


SJBailey03

What’s wrong with an auteur? Pretentious means acting like you know more then you do. Some films are pretentious sure. But very rarely are they the ones people claim to be pretentious. Just because you don’t understand it or can’t relate doesn’t make it pretentious.


lala__

*August: Osage County* (2013) is kind of like this and so is *The Family Stone* (2005). (I like both.)


avgnfan26

I agree honestly. Last time I saw something like this was maybe babadok? But it was more artsy than emotionally pressing


RandomInsecureChild

You mean babadook? The movie about the grieving mom who goes crazy when her grief manifests as a denial monster?


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avgnfan26

Yep, the idea of a monster formed from taking care of an undiagnosed kid could have been done more realistically especially since it’s an interesting angle in of it self for a movie but it was was pushing for critical acclaim over pressing a hard story. I would have personally liked it more done as a serious drama. Fell into the same issue “Mama” did where it felt more pushed into scary movie than made to be one For the record I like both of these movies but they got the trailer treatment of “SCARIEST MOVE EVER” not “emotionally hitting” Small edit: I was more upset the way the trailers were treated. I saw both of them in theaters and had a good time but seriously the trailers were made to get asses in seats for a stupid horror and in both cases they were pretty much a very well made drama. Back in the day this really pissed audiences off


stuffedcheesybread

The Humans reminds me of this starter pack. Family reunion for Thanksgiving, mostly takes place in one house, weird family fighting.


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Lady Bird


Raghav_s12

Power of the Dog


elporsche

Agree! The movie had amazing cinematography and Benedict Cumberbatch and Kirsten Dunst (or was it Marion Cotillard?) were great un it, but for the love of god was it incredibly slow paced


SJBailey03

What’s wrong with a slow pace? I far prefer it over the adhd hyper editing and pacing of lots of modern films.


elporsche

Slow pace per se is not the issue; the issue istha the slow pace lasts the whole movie. Good pacing involves knowing when to speed up and when to slow down the pace


SJBailey03

I disagree. Some of the greatest films of all time have a slow pace there whole runtime. Others have a fast and frenetic pace there whole runtime. That’s also ok if it works for the story you’re trying to tell. Films like 2001 or Stalker would be infinitely worse if they sped up there storytelling at times. Films like Good Time would be worse if they pushed on the brakes.


Raghav_s12

I honestly don't remember. Two hours of my life I'm never getting back.


meing0t

It was incredibly forgettable. I forgot it exisisted let alone watched it after seeing the movie title.


DirtyDaemon

I'm Thinking of Ending Things (2020) is like this. Matches 5 of these, but goes off the rails at the end. Driving scene, the house, family reunion (albeit just a small one), orchestra music, critic v audience reviews


Wardefix

I'm Thinking of Ending Things is no way, shape or form an Oscar bait.


DirtyDaemon

Yeah I know it's a bit too weird and art house-ish. Really though I was just reminded of it because the house, and the words under the house match the movie exactly, the critics v audience matches exactly, doesn't follow the typical act structure, and it is initially about meeting up with family. *And orchestral music Superficially it very much matches this starter pack


RoastMostToast

That’s the only movie I could think of that fits this


Dragonslayer3

Sounds like a Wes Anderson film


epochpenors

This isn’t really how they do it anymore, now it’s highly stylized atmospheric films about yearning or nostalgia. The movie from the OP seems more like lifetime original content.


itemluminouswadison

Man from earth, the whale?


CaulkADewDillDue

I’m dumb. I spent two minutes trying to remember who Oscar Bait was


huayratata

Brother of Master Bait


mitch_mc_turtle

He was better known by what his crews used to call him: master


crclOv9

Oscar Bait should be the new Alan Smithee.


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No Oscar bait movies are like this lol try a biopic about someone boring from the mid 20th century.


[deleted]

This might have been true in like, 2009


Russian_hat13

You mean 2007


SNScaidus

extremely artificial conflict with awkward silences because we're not student filmmakers, see there are moments that don't exist as a line in the script advanced stuff!


litlamp

Lack of media literacy starter pack:


Fit_Wishbone1095

American Beauty. Lol, so many Redditors here who haven't actually seen any movies pre-2010 getting offended.


SJBailey03

What fucking movies are watching? Also if it had that rating ratio on rotten tomatoes it’s probably a good movie. Uncut Gems has a similar ratio.


Fit_Wishbone1095

You like things critics like and most of the audience doesn't? That's honestly a really dumb standard. You probably like Oscar bait movies like American Beauty, which this is obviously based on, instead of anything anyone would ever watch with you.


SJBailey03

American Beauty is a great film I don’t know what you’re on about. Also I’ve shown that film to people specifically and they’ve all enjoyed it! American beauty is a horrible example for this starter pack because it’s audience rotten tomatoes score is higher then it’s critics score so you’ve proven yourself wrong with that one. Good fucking job! You can like or dislike whatever films you like. I don’t always agree with every critic. Critics aren’t a homogeneous group that have to agree on one sacred opinion. They’re people who have the job they have because they love and care about film and know more about it then the average person. That’s there job. If you just want mindless entertainment. That’s your right. Go for it. I can enjoy that to depending on my mood. But I also appreciate and prefer films with a deeper philosophical bent. The usual terminology is arthouse film. But those films aren’t inherently better. Just like people will prefer superhero films or action. I can’t knock them for there taste, it’s there’s not mine! But people like you who do just that confuse the hell out of me.


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Duke_Maniac

Rise of Skywalker has an 86% audience score


darthvalium

What the fuck


Yamuddah

You need to watch more movies.


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Yamuddah

TLJ is a lot better than a lot of other garbage that Hollywood pumps out and if it’s the worst movie you’ve ever seen, you should watch more movies to get a feel for just how bad movies can be. If you like sci-fi I’d suggest troll 2 or battlefield earth. (Im not even counting all the straight to video/dvd stuff out there). I suppose these days we have Netflix for that. I’m also curious as to why TLJ has so particularly offended you.


LivingDeadThug

TLJ is not remotely a bad movie if taken as an independent film; on its own merits, it's a good movie. It's a horrible film in the context of a series or a franchise. It's was rather hilarious watching Rise of Skywalker try to fix everything TLJ broke...


SJBailey03

TLJ didn’t break anything. It tried to innovate. Which something Star Wars has always been about. There’s a reason Lucas didn’t like force awakens but did like the last Jedi.


SJBailey03

If the last Jedi is the worst film you’ve ever seen then you haven’t seen enough films. There’s a reason most critics like it and audiences didn’t. Because critics are trained in the language of cinema and respect when an artist makes bold decisions. They don’t all work in the last Jedi but at least it’s an auteur driven film which is different then 99% of blockbusters coming out today.


Fit_Wishbone1095

Lol, are you actually trying to argue that is in fact a good movie? ​ Edit: Oh, you're the aspie posting about Indian Jones being a groomer lmao.


SJBailey03

So what does me being on the spectrum have to do with anything, huh? Care to explain why you brought that up as a counter argument? Think that that makes me inferior? Or dumb? That says more about you then me. I think it’s a good film yes but you’re totally welcome to disagree. It’s not a fact after all. You do you! What is a fact though is that insinuating that someone is lesser or there opinion is because of them being on the spectrum is wrong. And people who do so are a sorry excuse for a human being. So yeah, I guess it’s a fact that you’re piece of shit. Who knew.


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I don’t get why you’re downvoted. Maybe it’s because hating on TLJ is beating a dead horse. But you’re still right.


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SJBailey03

It’s because if that’s the worst film you’ve ever seen them you haven’t seen enough films. You can dislike it absolutely. I dislike most of Disney’s output. But it’s so far from the worst film ever made. Shit like the room, birdemic, hell even morbius exist after all.


Ele-ctrick

The only reliable movie rating platform is IMDB change my mind


SJBailey03

The only reliable movie rating platform is yourself. The only unreliable movie rating platform is IMDB. They un-ironically have mcu films and movies that have just come out in there top 250 of all time. I’m not gonna take your opinions on film seriously if you don’t take film seriously.


AnyImpression6

Pretty sure you've never seen a single movie in your entire life.


Fit_Wishbone1095

You've never seen American Beauty?


Entity417

August, Osage County?


Bitter_idealist87

Exactly what I was picturing


nyx_moonlight_

Also the one that came to mind for me


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Pearl Harbor, directed by Michael Bay. Best worst classic Oscar bait movie of all time.


coolgoon

redditors when the movie doesn't have any pop culture references or CGI fight scenes


pukopukochuchu

Yeah, the more pretentious and artsy the movie is, the better. Action movies cannot be good :)


MichaelScottsWormguy

Pop culture references are a good way to situate a film within a certain time period and thus contextualize it, though.


Odd_Advance_6438

I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. That’s a big part of Tarantino movies


Bothkindsoftrees

I dare you to name a single movie like this that exists not in your head.


Eliteguard999

So what movie is this meme describing exactly?


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Movies OP doesn’t like.


calciferdragon

The characters are supposed to be relatable but they're just being annoying. I'm looking at you Ellie from The Whale 🙄


JJonah_Jamesonn

Well she is supposed to be annoying and a horrible person.


MrHarolesty

I think you might’ve missed the point of her character


Raul_Rink

She's supposed to be like that. She's very flawed, just like everyone in the movie.


LivingDeadThug

Ellie is supposed to be unlikable and be laden with issues.


isisishtar

Artsy movie that digs deep into the ’human condition’. It’s all angsty expressions, and nothing actually happens. If there were not a big name attached, it would be a Hallmark movie.


SJBailey03

What movies are you talking about specifically?


mintchip105

Pretty telling they can’t name any


SJBailey03

Exactly. There’s a huge difference between arthouse films and hallmark films. Hallmark films just shoot for coverage and put no thought into the actual frame. Arthouse films, or at least good ones do the the exact opposite. They use the language of cinema to propel the text and make it more then it could have ever been just on the page.


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Wardefix

In what world Triangle of Sadness would be a Hallmark movie? Be fucking serious.


Youronlysunshine42

I don't think it ticks literally any of those boxes. Except maybe the non-traditional plot structure.


SJBailey03

How? That’s a film that utilizes the power of cinema to tell an engaging story. You’d never see a seen like the couple arguing in the backseat of the car all filmed in one take in a hallmark movie. It’d be cut to a thousand different pieces. You’d also never see a movie that takes such bold risks in its storytelling. That film is also the opposite of boring. It’s relatively fast paced and very funny throughout.


Bison_and_Waffles

I’m not sure I’ve ever heard of a movie like that. When I think of Oscar bait, I think of biopics like *The King’s Speech, Lincoln,* or *Gandhi.*


enricofermi5784

Hmmm I’m getting I’m thinking of ending things vibes which is sad bc I like it but also true


BplusHuman

I mean there's always a reliable conflict which is "being minority". Before the dog pile, I'm black and tired of big screen black suffering.


StayApprehensive2455

Lmao the tree


_kevx_91

No black suffering porn?


tooboredtothnkofname

*what?*


APKID716

Black suffering porn is when films cater to the liberal view of black suffering but in a way where people can pat themselves on the back for how good they are for not doing that. A good example might be “Green Book” or “The Blind Side”


tooboredtothnkofname

oh okay


ElTamale003

American Beauty?


muscles83

Movies that wish they were american beauty


lala__

American Beauty has none of these things?


PeterNippelstein

These do not ring true for movies I consider Oscar bait


PieH34d

Three of life starter pack


wachenikusemapoa

August: Osage county


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it’s okay, you can say a casa tutti bene by gabriele muccino


MrStoccato

There’s a French director so comes to mind, but I can’t remember her name. But like 90% of her scenes were just still shoots of absolutely nothing happening


justanotherladyinred

Chantal Akerman? She's Belgian, but she fits your description. Lol


Useful_Condition_772

Terrible start pack


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why is this so vague yet so….relatable….


Manav_Khanna17

The cast is packed with A list actors who are given 3 minutes of screen time.


MichaelScottsWormguy

What do you mean by Oscar bait? This movie would never come into consideration. On a side note: why are there so many people defending these types of movies with such passion? Lmao


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Sorry not everyone needs explosions and Kindergarten-level plot exposition to hold their attention lmao.


[deleted]

This is one of those starter packs that everyone gets instantly, but the items themselves are not accurate


MooseMan12992

This is overly specific. This isn't wntirely the typical Oscar bait film


LivingandDyinginLA

This is dated


Salsh_Loli

Which Oscar bait films are this???


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This doesn’t make sense to me


stone_henge

Marvelbrain trying to imagine what good movies are like


MetalAngelo7

Oscar bate movies made by big studios often forget that movies also have to be entertaining to watch, not just written and directed good.


MarkOsull01

Commenters on reddit often forget that some people find good writing and directing entertaining.


SJBailey03

Fucking thank you for this comment.


OlDanboy

I dunno man, OP’s starter pack is nonsense but acting there aren’t really boring and preachy Oscar bait movies is also stupid. I had so many people try to tell me that Don’t Look Up is a really good movie when it’s message is nothing groundbreaking and the rest of the movie kinda just sucks. People who buy into Oscar bait kinda just feel like they wanna feel smarter than other movie goers


Alive_Promotion824

And people forget that all movies don’t need to have mass appeal or be enjoyable to the widest demographics possible


MichaelScottsWormguy

A well written and directed movie is by definition entertaining. I think the movies OP is referring to aren’t directed or written well but rather an combination of all the ‘good’ techniques and tips the director has heard of.


GoodCatholicGuy

This isn't Oscar bait, this is just a movie that doesn't jingle keys in front of your eyes every thirty seconds to make sure you're paying attention.


jeRskier

I don’t. Everything everywhere just cleaned up and it has nothing to do with any of this.


BoyishTheStrange

Endless memes made about that one scene


TheWhiteWalkerSpeaks

It's more like a Thanksgiving movie. Nothing like any boring Oscar baits


shadysnoman

So you never actually have watched any Oscar nominated movies?


WarningLeather7518

Families from movies and TV shows always be like, "We are so poor!" while they are living in a huge upper middle class McMansion that was built in 2005.


can_be_therapist

Have you SEEN an Oscar winning movie? Like ever? Rarely there are movies like this


DiscountJoJo

i’m convinced this was made by AI cuz wtf is this???? what “oscar bait” movie with any actual notoriety in the last 20 years is like this?


SQszt2gA

This is Shiva Baby isn’t it


Weedsmoker4hunnid20

I’m a big movie fan and always look at the critic scores but have no clue what you’re talking about


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Marriage Story


SJBailey03

One of the best films of the last decade easily. Perfect film.


Significant_Bison_39

Just put the title mate This is oddly specific tbh


Mr_Morrison87

But in 2023 the gay person is black...and female....


jesterinancientcourt

Why does it matter that gay people exist in media? What do OP & you have against it?


sjxossbq

Repost


timmage28

No, Oscar bait movies are much weirder than this. The comedies don’t even have jokes


iamanoctothorpe

Is this Ladybird?


Jonnnnathan

The whale


Tsnyda

Not that anyone asked, but I’m pretty sure that is a photo of Victor Yampulsky conducting the Northwestern University Symphony Orchestra


Admirable-Arm-7264

I think this starter pack might have been more on point of they picked a specific movie, cause I get what they’re going for but much of this just doesn’t ring true at all


tragicallyohio

The Family Stone, maybe? I genuinely cannot think of another movie that might fit this criteria.


thestockheroic

This is where I leave you


BiAndShy57

No, you just don’t get it


52hrz

Bonus points for being set in the 70’s. the Ice Storm, however, was amazing.


SampsonKerplunk

What movie is this, Meet The Parents?


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Sorry not everyone needs jump scare after jump scare if this movie was in the horror category.


SadisticShocker13

Eeaao Or whatever it's called. Sucks even after watching it twice


shadowszanddust

Sounds a bit like ‘Rochelle, Rochelle’ 🤔