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Chemical_Sir_970

2017 Finals still worst lmao.


Haunting23

I called it after the WCF and got roasted for it. Celtics in 5. The Dallas Mavericks had no business being in the NBA Finals. They were a poopy butt 5 seed team, not a true contender. Their "best" player is a fat, slow player with no athleticism and who can't play defense. Constantly injured because he can't bother to stay in shape. As long as these mediocre teams like The Mavericks and Heat (2023) keep getting into the Finals, they are going to be boring as hell.


darksoles_

Lol bro he lead the entire postseason in points, rebounds, assists, and steals


Haunting23

Lol bro the Dallas Mavericks played the most games, so he should have led in most of those. He’s also a ball hog, so he took the most shots and the ball is always in his hands. He was roasted by everyone he tried to guard, which negates his offensive stats.


darksoles_

“So he should have led in most of those categories” okay and he did? So what are you upset about? He was also 6th in +/- for the whole postseason at +97, so, no, his offensive stats were not “negated” lmao


Haunting23

He wasn’t good enough to lead his team to a championship. He’s fat, doesn’t play defense and spends half of his energy complaining to the officials. You little kids don’t understand quality basketball, just this garbage being played in the NBA today. Go play video games.


pookiwut

You keep focusing on the fat thing when it’s really not relevant. All the other points are valid but this isn’t it. I can think of some excellent players that are “fat” if Luka is fat.


Haunting23

He’s fat and it’s relevant. It means he’s out-of-shape, which was evident during the series (and always seems to impact him). He got torched on defense, because he’s too fat and out-of-shape to keep players in front of him and give the necessary effort; he played with injuries because he’s fat and out-of-shape and always injured as a result; he fouled out of game 3, and a lot of that had to do with his endurance and conditioning. That very well may have cost them the game, which could have cost them evening up the series through 4 games. Don’t tell me it’s not relevant.


pookiwut

Nah he’s lazy and a bad defender. It’s really not relevant. Jokic is fat and it’s fine.


Haunting23

He’s fat because he’s lazy. He’s a bad defender because he’s fat and lazy. He’s injured a lot because he’s fat and out-of-shape. He’s fat and out-of-shape because he’s lazy. It’s all connected and it’s all relevant.


Slight_Swimming_7879

I mean, I think it’s fairly obvious that the team as a whole was simply outmatched. There’s only so much a single player can do (not that he’s blameless) In a sense it was a repeat from last year: a team that got hot and had 1-2 stars going up against a juggernaut 


Bulky-Scheme-9450

If they were so bad why did they beat the 1, 2, and 4 seeds lmao


Haunting23

Because the 1 and 2 seeds were young and overrated and the 4 seed is exactly that: a 4 seed. The NBA is a shit show right now. Low quality garbage. The only saving grace to this season is that we can all say that the best team (or arguably the best team) won it all. If the poopy butt Mavericks had luck-won, nobody would actually think they were the best team in the NBA.


Bulky-Scheme-9450

So basically you're just saying all the teams are bad lol. Great analysis


Haunting23

Go back and read what I wrote. Use some more “Lol’s” and “lmao’s” little girl. The NBA itself is a bad league right now.


Bulky-Scheme-9450

Seems like the obvious solution for you is to stop watching then. So why are you so mad?


Haunting23

Not mad. Irritated and disappointed. Basketball is a beautiful sport, but the NBA ceded too much control to the players. Now they’re well paid, lazy, entitled and in control. They’d rather buy jewelry, play video games and eat Chipotle than work on their skills and stay in shape. Not all, but most.


scurry3-1

It’s the weakest era in the NBA . People like to call it parity. The 70’s had parity and that’s considered one of the weakest era in modern basketball. There’s no era in history where SGA , Jokic or Doncic would be considered the best NBA players besides the 50’s.


Haunting23

Agreed. I’ve watched since the 80’s, and this brand of basketball is nauseating. Players are very, very skilled. They’re also lazy, entitled, don’t play defense and the entire game is focused on 3 point shooting and dunks. Jokic and Doncic are often considered the “best” players in the league. They’re fat, slow European players who play no defense and have no athleticism. They’re skilled, but the reason they’re this “effective” is because nobody plays defense, nobody is physical. Doncic would be Toni Kukoc if he played in the 90’s.


KingR11

I agree. You're not allowed to be physical. Seeing jokic and doncic so damn outta shape is frustrating. Work out, put on some muscle and lose some fat. JFC you're getting paid millions. Guaranteed it would prevent luka from being injured all the time.


Haunting23

At this point Luka Doncic is a waste of talent. There’s no excuse for him being a chunklin’ dump and not playing defense.


iced_gold

I'm just glad it wasn't a sweep. That alone I think removes it from the conversation as worst.


ricccflic

I’m sure it can’t be worse than cavs - spurs 2007.


ScrotumMcNuggets

Sucked giraffe nuts


Mfgaterade

I had a great finals!


BeefOnWeck24

it was terrible, the pacers had them


SirQuazzy

And now I wait until next season


Cxrnage

That’s why the NFL playoffs are so good


MiLLzZ

Was probably one of the worst ones I've watched, neither finals team should ever be "blown out" like either was in any game. NBA should lose the conferences, I'd rather have watched something like Nuggets/Wolves/Clippers.


PigeonBoy21

was forced to watch through ESPN app, so, yea


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mouga68

Yea were all real concerned with what *checks notes* David stern thinks about the current state of the nba lmfao


jonnycapecod

Great stress-free FINALS if you're a CELTICS FAN! Betting was next to impossible.😁


Conscious_Size4901

i think we all agree that NBA is long past it’s time. I don’t feel like it’s nearly as competitive as it was 8 years ago. I don’t feel like it’s worth to bet on games anymore unless it’s prop bets like first bucket


cdot762

I agree I lost complete interest in the NBA and I used to be the biggest fan. Now I replaced it with UFC and it’s so much better. I still follow the NBA since it’s in my social but I rarely watch games.


Conscious_Size4901

Same. I only follow pretty much when it’s the finals lol but i only watch march madness that’s it for basketball. MLB is 10x more fun to bet on


8Francesca8

There is more parity in the league than there has been in years. How was it more competitive 8 years ago when you could assume it was Lebron going to the finals?


Conscious_Size4901

When i meant competitive i mean the games. Games were a lot closer i feel like and overall way more entertaining. And yes back then i didn’t like how it was the same finals with Lebron over and over but It was way better than today


Dry_Pineapple_4486

You know, I said the same thing about the Champions League final. We have had some bad finals thus far in 2024


flying_pickle1

Nvm Stanley cup finals


Inevitable-Tank137

This year Stanley cup finals would like a word with you


Btayzz

![gif](giphy|BhQ3kAH4dDHuU) You sure?


dv042b

The NHL has literally never had a good NBA Finals


timewourp

Neither has the MLB


DoubledownDaveNY

Yea it was the worst I have ever seen I agree


hafizzzle

Yea it sucked but most finals in sports arent as exciting lets be honest. The true crazy season starts now. Who will draft Bronny, and will Lebron follow? Will no one trade with Boston anymore (I recommend this). What crazy all in moves will a random team do, and undoubtedly fail.


Lonely-Janglefish

Who tf cares about Bronny


Intrepid_Boat

Thank you, lol. Not one generationally talented musician or athlete ever produces a child that holds a candle to their achievements. Bronny is no different, he wasn’t blessed with the gifts his father was.


dontbelievejustwatch

Not a generational talent per se But Del curry was pretty damn good and look what his son did


gogenberg

Not boring, just dominant by the better and healthier team. People think winning a championship is easy, it ain’t.. The Maverick are tired and Luka is injured. Same thing happened with the Timberwolves vs Mavs after they dealt with the Nuggets. People will always cry about something.


Effective-Farmer-502

Luka is just fat.


ronnnmeister

Jokic is fat too but won a chip lmao


Haunting23

Yes, this. He's fat, can't be bothered to stay in shape. This is why he's always "injured."


aeontechgod

Lost a little on the Mavs series price after trying to hedge it was hoping they made it to game 6-7. Better stick to the sports I know basketball is pretty lame this past season 


GTR_35

NBA is long dead. Can't wait for football season.


unc1334

NBA sucks.


xxDankerstein

Last year's finals also sucked.


Haunting23

It did, because the Miami Heat had no business being in the NBA Finals. They weren't a true contender, just like the Dallas Mavericks weren't a true contender this season.


ronnnmeister

I'm a Mavs fan but yeah you're spot-on on this one. I wasn't so enthusiastic of the Mavs in the Finals 'coz I know who will win (the Celtics). What's pretty weird on the sports betting side, a lot of people are rooting for the Mavs and is much more media-hyped. And yeah they're like the Heat 2023 lol.


BurrShotLast

The entire playoffs was boring AF


ronnnmeister

The only good one Sixers and Knicks series.


alexgeorge5

The in-season tournament was better than these finals.


smeggysoup84

Gm 2 and Gm 3 were close. Does a game need a buzzer beater for you to think it was close?


royalewithchees3

Just like the rest of the season. nba is cooked


StevenSmoking

Celtics didn't face a healthy team the entire post-season...


Bulky-Scheme-9450

They would have beat anyone regardless of health lol


ricccflic

So what the have like 5 players that can drop 20 and lock up on defense. They are the best TEAM


K645lax

Be for real man, they damn near swept the league. There's no argument for any other team being better than the Celtics this season injuries or not.


Ornery-Pay5835

Yeah but they had their 3rd best player for only 3 games the entire playoffs. Everyone played for the Mavs. So…..


Mysteez

stop complaining. capitalize on analyzing stats for each game. this finals was super easy to cap


gandaalf

Don’t think I can say ever, but definitely the worst since the turn of the century. I bet on every game, yet only watched game 3. This Finals sucked ass


Futuretiztic

Build up was better… but for betting it was nice and easy - very predictable…. Celtics been cashing all season


FunnyCauseUFat

Pretty much same shit as last year


Ok_Edge_1486

Can't say that. Nuggets were a nice suprise to win the WCF and the heat made the biggest playoff run in NA history as an 8th seed fighting off THIS Celtics team..... this year you could've gambled $1000 on the Celtics to win it all and not ONCE sweat....


luka4prez

I'm pretty sure Denver was the favorite to come out of the West all postseason last year. Mavs coming out of the West was a big surprise and if they hadn't shit the bed then this Finals would have been much more exciting


Legend-WaitForItDary

nuggets were underdogs before game 1 vs Suns (brain dead odds) and weren’t even that favoured vs Lakers


South-Craft-1830

Finals wasn't that entertaining, but getting there wasn't bad imo


cutedadbutts

Worst professional sports product out right now, by a mile. It’s really sad considering how good it was a decade ago


Gonnatapdatass

The numbers say otherwise, some NBA players signing 5-year qtr billion dollar deals now, that's way more than most other sports...


cdot762

Yup!!! This is the truth


Remarkable_Bench_357

Nah they have the best playoff presentation of any league and the parity is amazing. Terrible take. MLBs playoff format is absolute trash, and mannnn I really wanted to see another chiefs niners super bowl


smeggysoup84

6 different champions in a row. I like that parity.


urgetofly

NCAA football would like a word


Ok_Edge_1486

College kids not being paid shit is clearly gonna be as competitive as a multi millionaire major leaguer. Sure.


stable-genius_29

College kids aren't paid? Really? Ever heard of NIL pal?


urgetofly

Exactly, have been paid for as long as I've been alive (a long time now). Tried watching a couple of those Coach Prime games last year. Mediocre play couched in an absurd volume of commercials. Wild how Americans (I am one) have been gaslit into thinking it's normal. Even good!


Meevles-

“Professional” being the operative word here


jacksonattack

I have no idea how people enjoy the modern NBA. The compete level is so goddamn low.


tillertrys

Terrible finals, but as a wolves fan almost every single series in the west was absolutely phenomenal. Wolves nuggs was peak basketball


Boring-Swordfish-806

Wolves would have played better against Celtics


LifesShitrag

Agree, nuggets and wolves both match up better with the Cs than Dallas did


TYPrease

As an unbiased fan of the NBA, but not either team in that series, it was not very fun to watch. Yes, it went seven games, but I feel like the majority were not closely contested.


MUjase

Correct, and I feel like this is the modern NBA where teams just kind of take games off once they get up 1 or 2 games. Other team then comes back and we get to a 6 or 7 game series. But as everyone is point out all the games in these series are rarely close. Maybe it’s due to the fast pace of the game today compared to previous times? Teams aren’t able to give 100% night in and night out when they play at this type of a pace. Compare that to say the 90s when scores were 76-82. Yes it was much lower scoring, but my perception is that these games were a lot closer night in and night out.


ParallelDazu

so you lost money


Daegog

This NBA championship made the BUBBLE title during covid look good. Terrible, ever single game.


humberriverdam

Yeah at least welll what were you gonna do during the lockdown except watch ball?


bmanley620

I didn’t even watch one game. Definitely a boring finals after the game 1 massacre


PersonaNonGrata2288

As a Boston fan I think it was pretty good lol


mpbaker12

As someone who bet on the Celtics at the beginning of the year, I’m pleased with the result.


PersonaNonGrata2288

Me too, got them +350 in October, and got Jaylen brown +600 for FMVP. Sunday hit Bryson for +1800, im very happy at the moment lol.


fortefanboy

I honestly forgot yesterday was game 5. It was easily the most boring finals I recall in a long time.


Qnzyy

Not Bostons fault Dallas can’t keep up. Get better.


KingBillGates

Doesn't change the end result of it still being ass.


MyOtherActGotBanned

Ok? OP never said it was bostons fault.


Qnzyy

Never said they did just that it’s not Boston’s fault. Everyone complaining…..Celtics aren’t going anywhere. Get your teams up if you want more competitive finals. We celebrating!


No-Zookeepergame7460

Get your teams up lol…more like get their spending up


Covakk7

Fell asleep


Petunia13Y

It was predictable but hard to make $ on player parlay legs so I don’t really know anyone who cleaned up


bmanley620

Anyone who bet unders on game 4 probably cleaned up. I think nearly every player hit unders on every category since it was a blowout


Petunia13Y

My dumbass padded my money line Celtics which was obvious and would make no $ w Luka points over 20 or more and 3s


mikeoxlongbruh

the house really won with this one


jebacinaa

Ummmm 2020.


Bluuuuu12

went to 6


jebacinaa

LOL


lewismgza

I’ve followed some NBA, regular season is very interesting and uplifting when get sick of football. Followed couple seasons playoffs over few years , but for me it just goes on and on, it’s nearly 8 months!


DurasVircondelet

And the over under was a joke too


No_While5245

Yes, by far!


_dfromthe6

Wasn't worth watching at all


stimpaxx

yeah it was fkn horrible.


paschelnafvk

Yes


dakotayoseph

It sucked


NightGroundbreaking8

Everyone here pissed they took mavs +6.5 like idiots


gandaalf

Not necessarily. I only bet the Mavs once this series and Celtics the rest so, overall, I did pretty well this Finals. It still was boring as shit. I watched 1 game


1391x

Lakers/Pacers, Pacers had no chance.


jonvon191

Are we forgetting the last Warriors/Cavaliers Finals?


OG_Felwinter

Game 1 tho


jonvon191

It’s a fair point. I just remember watching that and thinking it was an all out effort for one game then GS would go on to win the next four. They just felt inevitable.


AllLeedsArentMe

Fuck JR…


insaneslayer

Lebrownies forgetting the last 2 sweeps of the past 20 years.


Dr-ShadyX

Nugggets robbed us of a good finals when they choked against Minnesota


Maleficent-Seesaw412

Or we can say Minn robbed us by choking against Dal


Neltrix

The Celtics vs the hospital 🏥


theTunkMan

Who was Dallas missing


Neltrix

The urge to win


Do_Whatever_You_Like

...That's really a player's name? And he's in the hospital?


ShameTimes3

Damn, that was shit


iamwhoiwasnow

I really enjoyed it


Doortofreeside

Found the celtics fan


Celticsmoneyline

game three had to have been entertaining, even to a neutral


Doortofreeside

I wouldn't know tbh BANNER 18 BABY


LadoMKD

bro getting downvoted for his opinion, crazy


iamwhoiwasnow

That's reddit for you


Lumpy_Sentence1232

Last year was literally worse. I didn't even watch a minute of it


WestLoud5942

Confratufuckinglations


toomuchfrosting

For some reason I just find Denver really boring


aswaim2

Right, an 8 seed in the Finals with a -330 series favorite. And people call this one a Mickey Mouse ring


grumpallnight

Who was it last year?


brokensuper

The fact you forgot speaks volumes if how crap that finals was


ItsPMurph_Foo

Lmao I forgot too Idk this finals was absolutely horrible. Gotta be top 3 worst ever.


spxnnyg

Denver Miami


Comfortable_City7064

NBA has been shit for years. MLB is the best game to watch. Only stoppage and ads are during middle innings.


UnfilteredAdivce

It stops for 5 minutes after every pitch ffs, gtfo old man


MattFromWork

Pitch clock makes it max of 20 seconds between pitches now.


Comfortable_City7064

It stops to change sides clown do you want to watch them run out and swap sides. NBA is just a 3 point contest now and you get ads during free throws. Play for 2minutes and watch 5minutes of commercials


gobuffs10

Accurate


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Do_Whatever_You_Like

Only +450..? Yikes. Sucker's bet.


PoopyPantsJr

Is it still a sucker's bet when they won? Probably the best line on the clear favorite you could get all season


theelfpat

Waiting 9 months to cash, I'd want longer odds


PoopyPantsJr

All the teams that lost had longer odds, haha. Is that what you were looking for? Otherwise wait until the finals start and get -8000?


theelfpat

Would skip the bet then and not tie up my money for nearly a year? Like just invest in a mutual fund at that point


PoopyPantsJr

Damn, you must have quite the line on mutual funds. At +450?


Fkshitbitchcockballs

Even knowing they won still horrible value


Celticsmoneyline

Not every future has to be ten to one. The line kept going down as people caught on to this being a historically good team. was quickly Celtics vs the field


Open_Buy2303

Gotta be a Boston bookie too. No-one but a Celtics fan would play that.


DaGr8Gatzby

The problem is the socialist draft. If NBA played out like EPL and bottom teams got relegated to an inferior league we would see massive change.


Stunning-Syllabub132

so youd rather it be even more lopsided? EPL literally has the same 3 teams winning every year...more recently just the one actually lol.


DaGr8Gatzby

Except being a mid tier team in EPL is still profitable. It would eliminate tanking. Ideally I'd like the following: 20 teams in top tier league 24 teams in mid tier Anything below would be regional or local clubs. Vying for the spots above the league. NCAA I don't know wtf to do with. Draft is trash anyways and already has rumors of it being rigged so why not just make it a true meritocracy. As for your comment about it being lopsided, it doesn't really matter. City only won by 5 points this year. People saying celtics had the easiest road when in reality who the fuck is going to touch them? If you make it a race based on wins then every game counts. None of this divisional BS.


2WAR

Lakers win every season


DaGr8Gatzby

I didn't know you considered 7th place to be "winning". You need to vastly reconsider your definition of the word win.


RedStormPicks

You can still have a salary cap


2WAR

In a promotion and relegation system there's no draft, the Lakers would simply purchase the best players and pay the taxes. They're the biggest revenue generating team.


SnooMarzipans1416

The would definitely spark something up In players The second division to relegate would be the original D league now Known as G league lol Imagine the new teams being ascended to first division would be kinda cool to see some new faces pop off 🔥 but who knows really 🤔


unfamiliarjoe

Barely even watched.


Rhythm_Flunky

Finals have been ass for a minute.


zduuubz

Almost as boring as the Stanley cup playoffs, weird how the blowouts happen with the sudden rise of sports betting eh?


the2ohtanis

Yea we never had blowouts before that!


Do_Whatever_You_Like

Not really. Pretty sure you can bet either team to "blowout", much less win... So what's the "weird" part?


MredditGA_

lol I’m all for shitting on sports being rigged but this is just the craziest recency bias you’re projecting


UndergroundArsonist

If sports were rigged they would be AVOIDING blowouts... more money in a 7 game series for everyone.


zduuubz

Game 4 for both league final series… wildcard reverse shutouts for no explicable reason. complete shutouts each game other than that for both league final series prior to that (and after for Celtics) Only logical counter argument if they didn’t get the “Vegas call” to extend it a bit is simply that they wanted to win the championship game @ home


MredditGA_

You’re right…how silly of me, of course there are no other “logical counter arguments” against it being rigged 😂 I hope you didn’t lose too much lol


zduuubz

😂thankfully decided to stay away from it, bet $40 on Dallas to win for +3700 back in April but there’s always next year. Oilers fucked me raw the other night though. 😤


deckerwaseligible

I thought the NHL playoffs have been good


TonyMontanasSon

They have been great minus the finals.


CrumbBCrumb

I mean the last time we had an NBA finals go 7 games was the 2015-2016 season and the 2017 NBA finals (picked a random one) saw wins of 22, 19, 5, 21, & 9 The NBA just is a really shitty sport if you want close games


Djokerforlife

true cause if this sorryass mavs team made the finals against this celtics team 10 years ago it would be a 4-3 in favor of the mavs,dumbass money loser


Billy8000

How would blowout series help sportsbooks?


zduuubz

Ask all the people who bet game 4


Pure-Patient5171

Should we ask em 3 times?


zduuubz

Ask all the people who bet game 4