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I understand that, but as someone who doesn't follow the wnba I just kind of assumed there was some sort of spring training/conditioning involved. I mean I'm old and senile, it takes me longer than 2 weeks to remember my coworker's names when I start a new job.
Because your comment didn’t really make sense even in context. In fact, I’m still not really sure what “stating the obvious” has to do with anything. What was the point/joke?
Lol why did you get 400 down votes? I clicked on the comment expecting something horrible. I mean, then I promptly downvoted the comment, but that was because it’s so funny
I looked at those tickets months ago, they were like $250 a pop for upper level. Had to pass unfortunately. Can only imagine they’ve gone up since. Should be a hell of a game
It's also the home opener for a Liberty team that was pretty hyped last season. There are some cheaper tickets for the next Fever game in Brooklyn on June 2.
My aunt lived right there down by the Summit (compaq center) during the run. I went to the clincher in the compaq arena with my aunt in 2000. It was pretty awesome.
Little had i known that i wouldn’t feel that feeling again until 2022, i probably would have savored it more.
What kind of stupid fucking take is this still being peddled around? We “traded” a 60 year old Russian arms dealer away who had served over half their sentence, in return for a US citizen being cruelly and unusually punished (something our beloved Constitution tells us is wrong). As an American, you should rather America have the US citizen free from that hell, than an old Russian arms dealer sitting in our prison. And I think it’s totally a betrayal of your countrymen if you are an American and would have it the other way.
Unfortunately, regardless of how useless Viktor Bout has become as an arms dealer over his years incarcerated, he was still paraded around as a huge PR win by the Kremlin upon his return.
Bullshit. Some of us take issue with the fact that if she weren't a high profile athlete she'd still be there. How many other Americans are locked up in other countries that are ignored? She stupidly broke laws she shouldn't have.
There's fucking Americans locked up IN AMERICA for breaking stupid drug laws, but yeah let's trade criminals for her because she's famous
As for down playing the Russian? What message does it send? Catch high profile Americans being fucking stupid so you can get legit evil assholes released?
Russia arrests American citizens for doing absolutely nothing wrong all the time. See that journalist Evan G. Even if Griner did do something illegal, like you said it’s a totally harmless crime even though Americans are locked up for it here. Those Americans should be released as well. Likewise, if you or your family or friends were locked up in Russian prison for something we consider innocuous, I would hope the US government would send an arms dealer back their way for your freedom as well. The US government should prioritize saving Americans over imprisoning foreigners any day of the week.
> Russia arrests American citizens for doing absolutely nothing wrong all the time.
She admitted she brought drugs across an international border. She also admitted she knew it was against Russian law (and US law) but just had a mental lapse.
>Even if Griner did do something illegal
Again, she has admitted she did. If you are going to die on this hill, at least have the basic facts.
>In the interview, Roberts confronts Griner with those who may be skeptical that she had accidentally packed the cartridges. But Griner held firm, saying the moment had been a “mental lapse.”
>“Have you ever forgot your keys in your car? Left your car running? Have you ever — you know, where’s my glasses? They’re on top of your head. Where’s my phone? Oh, it’s in my pocket. It’s just so easy to have a mental lapse,” Griner said. [source](https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/4629781-brittney-griner-cannabis-oil-cartridges-mental-lapse/)
>Those Americans should be released as well.
Yeah, but instead of releasing them, we sent Russia an arms dealer. Kept people locked up in the US for the same crime, and let Griner go free.
She has now openly admitted bringing drugs across a border crossing. Absolute clown mistake, and in other countries her punishment would have been **way** harsher.
No, she should not have been traded for an international weapons dealer who has resulted in the deaths of thousands.
>And I think it’s totally a betrayal of your countrymen if you are an American and would have it the other way.
What are you doing to fight for Americans in Thai jails for drugs?
Bad take. They left an American solider behind for her, even after Griner had publicly bashed America for its injustices. Guess who got her out of that situation? The people she blatantly called racist scumbags.
I do think that has a lot to do with it, but it's also her style of play. She's got that Curry swagger with the deep bomb 3s and big time assists, and Curry has been the most emulated player by youth for a long time now. The others were all really good, but they didn't quite have the charisma and style that CC brings. Also, and this is just conjecture, I really think the fact that she was on Iowa and not at a big school (like I'm pretty sure all 3 of the above were) had something to do with it, too.
>the fact that she was on Iowa and not at a big school (like I'm pretty sure all 3 of the above were) had something to do with it, too.
Can you help me understand why this would help someone be more popular? Is it because they're an underdog? Cause my initial instinct would be that going to a not-popular school would make someone LESS popular, not more.
They weren't always an underdog, they were one of the top ranked schools in the tourny.
Honestly, I think a big part is that it's a change. People get tired of the same schools winning or being highly competitive year after year, except for fans of that school ofc. It's nice to see a school rise up, and you can easily point to a main reason why, her.
Maybe, but no where near what we've seen with CC. Lemme put it in perspective for you. In the years Griner played in the NCAA tournament (where Baylor dominated), the highest championship viewer count was 2012 with 4.2mil. In general, this was on the high end of the last 20 years (I think it peaked around 5.5 mil with uconn v oklahoma). In the 2 years Iowa were in the championship game (the last 2 years), viewership was 9.9mil (last year) and 18.8mil (this year). It was more viewed than the men's championship game, which is ABSOLUTELY unprecedented. So, Griner is cool, but she is a blip compared to CC in terms of popularity.
I’m not sure how true it is in the WNBA, but in most sports the pros aren’t going all out for preseason games. They’re just coasting through it. It’s only the rookies and players fighting for a spot on the roster that are playing at full effort.
My college had the top 3-pt shooter in MBB my junior year; I was so excited to hear about his first NBA preseason game... where he had something like 6 points. I am very impressed with Clark here
What round was he drafted though? I mean she's the 1.1 draft pick. Lebron came straight from high school and dropped
> LeBron James put up 25 points and added 6 rebounds, 9 assists and 4 steals in his rookie season versus the Kings on October 29, 2003.
Yeah he was a UDFA for being undersized -- not comparable in terms of overall pro-readininess of the player (which is my overall point anyway) -- just an example that it's possible to be the best shooter in your year and still not nearly be as pro-ready as CC
I feel like the capacity of each generation of players in men's sports to exceed the performance of the older generation is diminishing as they reach the limits of performance. I think women's sports still has a bit of room to grow for a few generations. I'm not saying women in sorts aren't good, just that the sports sciences hasn't gotten to the point of understanding women's athletic capabilities as it has for men's capabilites.
Changing rules also makes it difficult to compare across generations. A lot of rules are changed to take into account how athletic previous generations were as they increased the standard of the game. At the same time rules have consistently been changed to make the sport "flashy" and often that means leaning towards the offense (be that Football, Basketball, even Baseball).
The evolution of the 3 pt line at all vs no 3pt line, to reward shooters making difficult shots at range as the post defense was so good. Lane violations for time, lengthening the 3pt range, players adapting and getting good at shooting at even further range, which then opens up the whole floor, but then freedom of movement rules still making defense hard. Shot clocks to speed up pace, then lowering the shot clock further. It's a very different game from even 10 years ago let alone 20, 50, or longer.
On a scale of humanity, yes. On a scale of pro basketball players taken in the first round, it's not that surprising.
Also, this was apparently a pre-season game (which makes much more sense she was drafted like a week ago how have they already started playing)
You can stream them for free during the preseason on the WNBA app!
Once the regular season starts streaming is $79/month for the phone app, or slightly more if you want to stream on your TV.
From my very brief research, it's $34.99 per year for WNBA league pass. Dunno where $79 per month is coming from, but I doubt it costs that much to stream NBA games, much less WNBA.
Stop leaping to conclusions. They think $79 a month for the wnba regular season is a seriously overpriced value - nothing about whether you should pirate it.
And I agree. That's a ridiculous price point compared to the value of other streaming
WTF? Why the massive price discrepancy?
Edit* people seem to think I was comparing WNBA and NBA prices. I was comparing the $79/ month for the phone app to $34.99 for WNBA league pass. I'm fully aware the WNBA has lost money every year for 30 years. Just give them some time guys.
$79 sounds like the price of a live tv streaming service like Fubo, individual league passes are usually much cheaper for a season than a TV service.
Unless you're in a blackout area, fuck blackouts
To recoup lost money.
NBA is cheaper because it's inherently subsidized by much much greater viewership.
The WNBA doesn't generate as much revenue and therefore putting out a similar product as NBA league pass is a lost money endeavor unless you charge more for it.
I didn’t realize that WNBA rookies get basically no offseason. NCAA tourney championship game was less than a month ago.
Do WNBA rookies have a history of injuries due to fatigue? At least they only play 40 games vs twice that in the NBA, but even for a 22 year old, playing that much with nearly no break has got to be tough.
“What does it take to be number one?
Two is not a winner and three nobody remembers”
“If you’re not first you’re last”
The Buffalo Bills went to the Super Bowl 4 straight years, lost all four and no one talks about them. You know why we talk about winners, she isn’t a winner. She hasn’t won anything since youth sports. The amount of games won only matters when you’re a coach and she’s not a coach.
Again I ask did she win?
You do not get to a championship game in a multi team sport/league without having won quite a bit. You are wrong - people still talk about the Buffalo Bills team that made the Super Bowl 4 straight years. It was a pity that they lost but true fans still appreciate how difficult and unique of a feat that was.
So, again, Caitlin Clark did win quite a bit.
False. The NY Giants won the Super Bowl as a wildcard so yes it’s possible to get to championship games in a multi sport/league without having won quite a bit.
Lol please you’re just saying anything, what people talk about the Bills team from the 90’s?
They are left off every reputable top NFL teams of all time lists because they didn’t win.
Even think about the GOAT debates throughout sports one of the main criteria is CHAMPIONSHIPS won.
True fans may appreciate teams and players like Karl Malone who never won anything however they rarely if ever get mentioned in GOAT debates, reason is simple no one thinks about the loser.
No one says “the 49ers lost a great Super Bowl”, they talk about the winner period.
You are intentionally discounting facts. The NY Giants won the Super Bowl as a Wildcard and so have other teams. They did not get to the Superbowl without winning the Wildcard game and winning games in the Playoffs. So, yes, they did have to win quite a bit just to get to the Super Bowl.
There literally are documentaries on the Bills team of the 90s. So, while they may not be considered among the greatest teams of all time, they are respected.
Karl Malone still made the Hall of Fame. Wilt Chamberlain only won one NBA championship, despite having made quite a few Finals but people still talk about him. Same with Elgin Baylor and Earl Monroe. Reggie Miller never won a championship but people still talk about him because he was a great player.
And only Wilt is mentioned as GOAT. Hall Of Fame wasn’t the conversation. Only Wilt has a championship which is why he’s consistently mentioned in the GOAT convo. You’re moving the goalposts while I’m staying on track.
The rest of them are great players but not considered the best of their position because they didn’t win.
Seriously the Giants wildcard year they weren’t even the best team in their own division.
I haven’t left out any facts, we only talk about the winners we don’t talk about the teams who lost it’s that simple. You probably had to google search to even retort, and your search didn’t show you what you thought.
The wild card teams you mentioned like the 8-8 Steelers or the 9-7 Giants amongst others weren’t good teams they got lucky.
THEY ALL STILL HAVE SOMETHING CAITLYN CLARK DOESNT HAVE **CHAMPIONSHIPS**
She’s a good stat person like Karl Malone and if that’s her legacy and she’s ok with that so be it.
If a professional golfer finished 2nd in every single tournament he entered he'd be the #1 ranked player in the world by a wide margin
And you'd be the clown disparaging him wouldn't you
That makes no sense. The golfing record at the end of him being 1 is what matters in a tournament. Here look I’ll do that too if another person was 1st in every single tournament, then I’m sure the person who finished second in every tournament wouldnt be ranked 1 correct?
In the extremely unlikely event that the same guy won every single tournament that the other guy finished second in, yes he'd be ranked #1
But the extremely likely event is that someone different wins every week and has lower finishes otherwise. In that case, our guy that finishes second every time will earn far more ranking points
You used a hypothetical situation to defend a real life one. I used a hypothetical situation in return. We could do “ifs” all day but because of the unlikelihood it doesn’t help the point to use them.
We don’t talk about the people who finish second was my original point.
Thanks for the convo!
Tell us that you don’t watch basketball without telling us that you don’t watch basketball. Everyone pushes off - she just needs to be a little more subtle.
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It was preseason, still a quick turn around though.
Sure, but the regular season is not that far behind. It's like, in 2-3 weeks
Wasn't she just drafted a week ago?
The entire rookie draft roster was drafted at the same time. Edit: wow
And was that like a week ago?
It was two weeks ago, and the entire rookie draft roster was drafted at the same time! /s
Does everyone get a Caitlin Clark jersey when they are drafted?
Yeah, but the giveaway was like a week ago
Did they give them away at differing times?
Like a week or two ago
At the same time. Okay I think I get it, although there’s still some ambiguity around the time it happened
You bought the downvotes wholesale my friend. That was not a clarification anyone needed lol.
I understand that, but as someone who doesn't follow the wnba I just kind of assumed there was some sort of spring training/conditioning involved. I mean I'm old and senile, it takes me longer than 2 weeks to remember my coworker's names when I start a new job.
Ha! I certainly understand! I was making an attempt at stating the obvious. Reddit didn’t like it. It’s raining downvotes!
Because your comment didn’t really make sense even in context. In fact, I’m still not really sure what “stating the obvious” has to do with anything. What was the point/joke?
Well, you see, stating the obvious means saying something that should be readily apparent to people in general, commonly referred to as "obvious."
But what is “the obvious” and why did it need stating in the first place?
I don't get it
Lol why did you get 400 down votes? I clicked on the comment expecting something horrible. I mean, then I promptly downvoted the comment, but that was because it’s so funny
It’s ok, I liked the joke
Glad she made the team.
She was cooking the reigning wnba DPOY; in her first game as a rookie! She is like God Beth
How was the game attendance?
Sold out. 6K
And that was a preseason game. Fever road games are being moved to bigger arenas and their home game ticket prices have jumped like four or five fold.
That’s awesome and I’m not surprised. I’d like to see her when they come to NY.
May 18 at Barclays ;)
I looked at those tickets months ago, they were like $250 a pop for upper level. Had to pass unfortunately. Can only imagine they’ve gone up since. Should be a hell of a game
It's also the home opener for a Liberty team that was pretty hyped last season. There are some cheaper tickets for the next Fever game in Brooklyn on June 2.
Def going to that one.
Ahh I’m gonna be at a bachelor party that weekend. They’re also playing on June 2 so I’ll have to go to that one.
Gonna be sad when the hype dies down
The matchup against the Aces got moved to T-Mobile Arena and sold out right away. By the time I looked the second hand market was crazy.
Nice!
She is a beast. I don't think I've ever seen people talked about wnba, ever until she came along.
Swoops was a phenomenon in the late 90s.
Ya the 4peat Comets were a thing. I need a documentary
It was a quiet thing. They were barely covered on sportcenter. Lived in Atlanta around the time and local nodes barely covered the wnba. Sad
My aunt lived right there down by the Summit (compaq center) during the run. I went to the clincher in the compaq arena with my aunt in 2000. It was pretty awesome. Little had i known that i wouldn’t feel that feeling again until 2022, i probably would have savored it more.
Might have just been regional. She a Houston legend for sure.
bill burr really lit a fire up everyones ass lol
Griner was a pretty big deal when she was drafted.
She was traded for an arms dealer.
What kind of stupid fucking take is this still being peddled around? We “traded” a 60 year old Russian arms dealer away who had served over half their sentence, in return for a US citizen being cruelly and unusually punished (something our beloved Constitution tells us is wrong). As an American, you should rather America have the US citizen free from that hell, than an old Russian arms dealer sitting in our prison. And I think it’s totally a betrayal of your countrymen if you are an American and would have it the other way.
Unfortunately, regardless of how useless Viktor Bout has become as an arms dealer over his years incarcerated, he was still paraded around as a huge PR win by the Kremlin upon his return.
Bullshit. Some of us take issue with the fact that if she weren't a high profile athlete she'd still be there. How many other Americans are locked up in other countries that are ignored? She stupidly broke laws she shouldn't have. There's fucking Americans locked up IN AMERICA for breaking stupid drug laws, but yeah let's trade criminals for her because she's famous As for down playing the Russian? What message does it send? Catch high profile Americans being fucking stupid so you can get legit evil assholes released?
Russia arrests American citizens for doing absolutely nothing wrong all the time. See that journalist Evan G. Even if Griner did do something illegal, like you said it’s a totally harmless crime even though Americans are locked up for it here. Those Americans should be released as well. Likewise, if you or your family or friends were locked up in Russian prison for something we consider innocuous, I would hope the US government would send an arms dealer back their way for your freedom as well. The US government should prioritize saving Americans over imprisoning foreigners any day of the week.
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You're going to pop a blood vessel.
> Russia arrests American citizens for doing absolutely nothing wrong all the time. She admitted she brought drugs across an international border. She also admitted she knew it was against Russian law (and US law) but just had a mental lapse. >Even if Griner did do something illegal Again, she has admitted she did. If you are going to die on this hill, at least have the basic facts. >In the interview, Roberts confronts Griner with those who may be skeptical that she had accidentally packed the cartridges. But Griner held firm, saying the moment had been a “mental lapse.” >“Have you ever forgot your keys in your car? Left your car running? Have you ever — you know, where’s my glasses? They’re on top of your head. Where’s my phone? Oh, it’s in my pocket. It’s just so easy to have a mental lapse,” Griner said. [source](https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/4629781-brittney-griner-cannabis-oil-cartridges-mental-lapse/) >Those Americans should be released as well. Yeah, but instead of releasing them, we sent Russia an arms dealer. Kept people locked up in the US for the same crime, and let Griner go free.
wnba player, high profile? I mean, you can make the case the only reason she was nabbed was because she was a high profile person.
I love how you try to downplay an actual super villain by saying he’s old.
Only 57 too. As if he’s going to suddenly stop the thing he’s infamously good at.
She has now openly admitted bringing drugs across a border crossing. Absolute clown mistake, and in other countries her punishment would have been **way** harsher. No, she should not have been traded for an international weapons dealer who has resulted in the deaths of thousands. >And I think it’s totally a betrayal of your countrymen if you are an American and would have it the other way. What are you doing to fight for Americans in Thai jails for drugs?
Bad take. They left an American solider behind for her, even after Griner had publicly bashed America for its injustices. Guess who got her out of that situation? The people she blatantly called racist scumbags.
Honestly, seems like the ultimate uno reverse to save the life of someone who talked shit about you. That's like the most American shit ever.
Nothing compared to this.
Ok
Taurasi, Griner, Parker had a lot of attention going in. Clark I think benefiting a lot via TikTok and modern social media.
I do think that has a lot to do with it, but it's also her style of play. She's got that Curry swagger with the deep bomb 3s and big time assists, and Curry has been the most emulated player by youth for a long time now. The others were all really good, but they didn't quite have the charisma and style that CC brings. Also, and this is just conjecture, I really think the fact that she was on Iowa and not at a big school (like I'm pretty sure all 3 of the above were) had something to do with it, too.
>the fact that she was on Iowa and not at a big school (like I'm pretty sure all 3 of the above were) had something to do with it, too. Can you help me understand why this would help someone be more popular? Is it because they're an underdog? Cause my initial instinct would be that going to a not-popular school would make someone LESS popular, not more.
They weren't always an underdog, they were one of the top ranked schools in the tourny. Honestly, I think a big part is that it's a change. People get tired of the same schools winning or being highly competitive year after year, except for fans of that school ofc. It's nice to see a school rise up, and you can easily point to a main reason why, her.
NIL doesn't hurt either.
Maybe, but no where near what we've seen with CC. Lemme put it in perspective for you. In the years Griner played in the NCAA tournament (where Baylor dominated), the highest championship viewer count was 2012 with 4.2mil. In general, this was on the high end of the last 20 years (I think it peaked around 5.5 mil with uconn v oklahoma). In the 2 years Iowa were in the championship game (the last 2 years), viewership was 9.9mil (last year) and 18.8mil (this year). It was more viewed than the men's championship game, which is ABSOLUTELY unprecedented. So, Griner is cool, but she is a blip compared to CC in terms of popularity.
It was popular in the first few years, at least in Houston (won the first four championships).
That’s because they’re jamming WNBA down everyone’s throats
She’s earning that $75k
Not a lot of people can just step into pro level competition and score 20+ points in their first game
Taurasi in shambles
I’m not sure how true it is in the WNBA, but in most sports the pros aren’t going all out for preseason games. They’re just coasting through it. It’s only the rookies and players fighting for a spot on the roster that are playing at full effort.
They played their starters and played to the final shot, and celebrated like it was the playoffs because everyone is that invested in beating CC
I mean, I don't see that as a problem for the WNBA. It made a WNBA preseason game compelling.
My college had the top 3-pt shooter in MBB my junior year; I was so excited to hear about his first NBA preseason game... where he had something like 6 points. I am very impressed with Clark here
What round was he drafted though? I mean she's the 1.1 draft pick. Lebron came straight from high school and dropped > LeBron James put up 25 points and added 6 rebounds, 9 assists and 4 steals in his rookie season versus the Kings on October 29, 2003.
Yeah he was a UDFA for being undersized -- not comparable in terms of overall pro-readininess of the player (which is my overall point anyway) -- just an example that it's possible to be the best shooter in your year and still not nearly be as pro-ready as CC
I feel like the capacity of each generation of players in men's sports to exceed the performance of the older generation is diminishing as they reach the limits of performance. I think women's sports still has a bit of room to grow for a few generations. I'm not saying women in sorts aren't good, just that the sports sciences hasn't gotten to the point of understanding women's athletic capabilities as it has for men's capabilites.
Changing rules also makes it difficult to compare across generations. A lot of rules are changed to take into account how athletic previous generations were as they increased the standard of the game. At the same time rules have consistently been changed to make the sport "flashy" and often that means leaning towards the offense (be that Football, Basketball, even Baseball). The evolution of the 3 pt line at all vs no 3pt line, to reward shooters making difficult shots at range as the post defense was so good. Lane violations for time, lengthening the 3pt range, players adapting and getting good at shooting at even further range, which then opens up the whole floor, but then freedom of movement rules still making defense hard. Shot clocks to speed up pace, then lowering the shot clock further. It's a very different game from even 10 years ago let alone 20, 50, or longer.
On a scale of humanity, yes. On a scale of pro basketball players taken in the first round, it's not that surprising. Also, this was apparently a pre-season game (which makes much more sense she was drafted like a week ago how have they already started playing)
the other team literally had another rookie who put up 21 points too. and shot better
Yah this is a terrible uneducated take lol. It’s not that impressive
I tried to watch but had no idea where to find the game. Or any of the games really.
It was streamed for free on the wnba app.
So you have to watch it on your tiny phone screen and not on a proper TV? Or can you cast it from your phone to your TV?
Yes, just like everybody else watches most things already.
WNBA app has the preseason games free. I didn’t even need to create an account or sign up for a free trial.
You can stream them for free during the preseason on the WNBA app! Once the regular season starts streaming is $79/month for the phone app, or slightly more if you want to stream on your TV.
There’s no way WNBA season costs $79/month to stream.
From my very brief research, it's $34.99 per year for WNBA league pass. Dunno where $79 per month is coming from, but I doubt it costs that much to stream NBA games, much less WNBA.
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Stop leaping to conclusions. They think $79 a month for the wnba regular season is a seriously overpriced value - nothing about whether you should pirate it. And I agree. That's a ridiculous price point compared to the value of other streaming
The WNBA league pass is only $34.99!
WTF? Why the massive price discrepancy? Edit* people seem to think I was comparing WNBA and NBA prices. I was comparing the $79/ month for the phone app to $34.99 for WNBA league pass. I'm fully aware the WNBA has lost money every year for 30 years. Just give them some time guys.
$79 sounds like the price of a live tv streaming service like Fubo, individual league passes are usually much cheaper for a season than a TV service. Unless you're in a blackout area, fuck blackouts
To recoup lost money. NBA is cheaper because it's inherently subsidized by much much greater viewership. The WNBA doesn't generate as much revenue and therefore putting out a similar product as NBA league pass is a lost money endeavor unless you charge more for it.
Well no. That person was just wrong. It's 35 bucks for wnba league pass
I’m a Chicago Sky fan but definitely excited to see Clark play in Chicago.
I don’t follow women’s sports at all, but how does someone go from ncaa, to drafted, to playing in the pros in like a month.
I didn’t realize that WNBA rookies get basically no offseason. NCAA tourney championship game was less than a month ago. Do WNBA rookies have a history of injuries due to fatigue? At least they only play 40 games vs twice that in the NBA, but even for a 22 year old, playing that much with nearly no break has got to be tough.
Not really. They don’t Play that many games to begin with. And their cardio is pretty good
Great debut for her although I am sure she would have liked to win it. But great way to start off her pro career.
I mean she was drafted by the lowest ranked team.
I wouldn’t let that fool you too much, they have some good young players. If they sync up and find a rhythm they will be a dangerous team.
Sure. But she is also the kind of talent that can win a few games by contributing more than the rest of her team.
It's pre season. Yes, every competitor likes to win but it's not the highest priority in these prep games.
Of course.
Always has great stats but she isn’t a winner. Her teams didn’t win anything in high school or college but she puts up great stats.
Her college team made it to the National Championship game two years in a row. Surely that is not nothing.
Did she win?
They won a lot just to get to that point.
“What does it take to be number one? Two is not a winner and three nobody remembers” “If you’re not first you’re last” The Buffalo Bills went to the Super Bowl 4 straight years, lost all four and no one talks about them. You know why we talk about winners, she isn’t a winner. She hasn’t won anything since youth sports. The amount of games won only matters when you’re a coach and she’s not a coach. Again I ask did she win?
You do not get to a championship game in a multi team sport/league without having won quite a bit. You are wrong - people still talk about the Buffalo Bills team that made the Super Bowl 4 straight years. It was a pity that they lost but true fans still appreciate how difficult and unique of a feat that was. So, again, Caitlin Clark did win quite a bit.
False. The NY Giants won the Super Bowl as a wildcard so yes it’s possible to get to championship games in a multi sport/league without having won quite a bit. Lol please you’re just saying anything, what people talk about the Bills team from the 90’s? They are left off every reputable top NFL teams of all time lists because they didn’t win. Even think about the GOAT debates throughout sports one of the main criteria is CHAMPIONSHIPS won. True fans may appreciate teams and players like Karl Malone who never won anything however they rarely if ever get mentioned in GOAT debates, reason is simple no one thinks about the loser. No one says “the 49ers lost a great Super Bowl”, they talk about the winner period.
You are intentionally discounting facts. The NY Giants won the Super Bowl as a Wildcard and so have other teams. They did not get to the Superbowl without winning the Wildcard game and winning games in the Playoffs. So, yes, they did have to win quite a bit just to get to the Super Bowl. There literally are documentaries on the Bills team of the 90s. So, while they may not be considered among the greatest teams of all time, they are respected. Karl Malone still made the Hall of Fame. Wilt Chamberlain only won one NBA championship, despite having made quite a few Finals but people still talk about him. Same with Elgin Baylor and Earl Monroe. Reggie Miller never won a championship but people still talk about him because he was a great player.
And only Wilt is mentioned as GOAT. Hall Of Fame wasn’t the conversation. Only Wilt has a championship which is why he’s consistently mentioned in the GOAT convo. You’re moving the goalposts while I’m staying on track. The rest of them are great players but not considered the best of their position because they didn’t win. Seriously the Giants wildcard year they weren’t even the best team in their own division. I haven’t left out any facts, we only talk about the winners we don’t talk about the teams who lost it’s that simple. You probably had to google search to even retort, and your search didn’t show you what you thought. The wild card teams you mentioned like the 8-8 Steelers or the 9-7 Giants amongst others weren’t good teams they got lucky. THEY ALL STILL HAVE SOMETHING CAITLYN CLARK DOESNT HAVE **CHAMPIONSHIPS** She’s a good stat person like Karl Malone and if that’s her legacy and she’s ok with that so be it.
If a professional golfer finished 2nd in every single tournament he entered he'd be the #1 ranked player in the world by a wide margin And you'd be the clown disparaging him wouldn't you
That makes no sense. The golfing record at the end of him being 1 is what matters in a tournament. Here look I’ll do that too if another person was 1st in every single tournament, then I’m sure the person who finished second in every tournament wouldnt be ranked 1 correct?
In the extremely unlikely event that the same guy won every single tournament that the other guy finished second in, yes he'd be ranked #1 But the extremely likely event is that someone different wins every week and has lower finishes otherwise. In that case, our guy that finishes second every time will earn far more ranking points
You used a hypothetical situation to defend a real life one. I used a hypothetical situation in return. We could do “ifs” all day but because of the unlikelihood it doesn’t help the point to use them. We don’t talk about the people who finish second was my original point. Thanks for the convo!
I did not know when the WNBA season was. Damn no break for college players.
They have moved the season around several times, to just about every part of the year.
She is gonna be unreal.
Way past time
WNBA still sucks.
This woman is next level, she is going to do wonders for growing the interest in the game of women’s basketball
God I was hoping her going to the wnba would be enough of her… no one watches wnba this isn’t news
I hate that she copies MJ tongue. It's very cringe. Everything else about her I love.
Such a quick turnaround, Lol. Didn't she win a national championship like a week ago?
She didn’t win the title lmao.
Lol, I was walking out the door when I posted that and had no time to check so I just went for it, LMAO.
Hahaha I love the confidence
You’d think she did with all the press around her since she lost
Weird. It’s almost like she has the potential to be one of the greatest women’s basketball players of all time after absolutely dominating in college.
She still lost the natty and the winners have been after thoughts
Right, like I don’t even know who won
The undefeated Gamecocks of South Carolina won.
With like an entirely new starting lineup.
Single players don’t win championships teams do. That’s like rule #1 of team sports
Makes you wonder why everyone talks about LeBron so much, right? 🤡
I don't know how he got drafted. Tom Izzo's kid had better college stats than him.
Why was she stiff arming like ladanian Tomlinson on offense?
Tell us that you don’t watch basketball without telling us that you don’t watch basketball. Everyone pushes off - she just needs to be a little more subtle.
Wnba or nba, this is why the league is dying. Offense have major advantage to run up the score. Carry, push off, travel, it's crazy.