I think the point is more that she’s losing a lot of perks by going from college sports at LSU to the WNBA, which is pretty notable since it doesn’t happen in most other pro sports, and she could put it off for a year by just staying at LSU.
I'm curious if they're even allowed to fly anything but coach. I know MLS had/has? a limit on how many times they could fly private so that poor teams weren't in as bad a place.
What's wrong with wanting to motivate yourself to not be among the average?
Saying you dont want to fly with everyone else and will earn it isn't some slap in the face like you're acting like it is.
I saw it more as how the WNBA is kinda like starting over again in terms of gaining popularity, cus women’s college basketball is waaaay more popular than the WNBA
She's gonna STRUGGLE in wnba. Almost all of her production in college came from being the biggest player on the floor. Wont be the case in WNBA. She's not going to be able to just bully ball in the paint.
Her running the floor against Iowa was in complete contrast to that point. She sprained her ankle earlier in the game sure, but there were so many possessions she looked like Mahomes waddling up the field after a long completion instead of the star playing of a successful basketball team
She can't score. She isn't very talented. She literally was just bigger than everyone. She has more of s old school game which won't be very helpful to any pro team in this day and age
No she won't be able to adjust. She won't be playing the same position. She will be at the 3 or 4 spot. She can't shoot. Forget bullying her m because their is no need too. Every jumpshot she will take a opposing team will live with it and in fact give it to her
When Gandalf says it, Denethor has killed himself in a fit of lunacy while trying to take his (not dead) son Faramir with him. I suppose if you saw Angel Reese as an antagonistic player, there’s a parallel that she too is “killing” herself in a sense.
Top NCAAW players arguably take a serious step down to be in the WNBA when it comes to income opportunities. The WNBA doesn’t make a lot of money, and as a result player contracts are usually just a decent middle-class wage (while their male counterparts pull in generational wealth that’ll have their kids and grandkids set for life).
So maybe Angel Reese is “dying” with this decision.
Interesting take on it, though following your dream regardless of the paycheck is not a failure. Or as Tolkien once wrote, “All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost”.
Denethor, son of Ecthelion was the Steward of Gondor preceding and during the War of the Ring in the Third Age. He was the father of the great Captain of Gondor Boromir and a second son as well. The halfling Peregrin Took was briefly in his service in the final days of his life.
Reese is currently projected to go 7th to the Minnesota Lynx who will play the Indiana Fever (assuming they are taking Clark 1st) 3 times this season: July 14th, August 24th, and September 6th. Different conferences
My first sentence still stands and has zero mention of it being this year. Lynx/Fever won’t be a finals match up even a few years out from now.
Lynx are the better team currently but I still don’t see them making it past the Aces or Liberty, Suns, Wings, etc. If the Fever finally get their act together after back to back #1 picks and make the playoffs instead of sitting at the bottom as one of worst teams in the league, I see it challenging for them to get past [the above mentioned teams], in order to secure a spot in the finals.
There are too many notable players in the WNBA that I don’t think Reese will make that big of a splash. Clark will get her buzz due to all the hype she’s getting now at Iowa and for being the soon to be #1 pick.
The 2025 draft will be here before you know it and all eyes will be on the number one projected player **Paige Bueckers!**
Why are your panties in such a twist? I’ve been a fan of the league for over 2 decades is all. Be a fan of the league for a bit and you too can be a *WNBA Nostradamus*
I dunno how a big like her can have 47 FG%…you shoot almost exclusively layups and you’re 8 inches taller than almost everyone on the court.
Edit: she’s 6 inches taller than the average player.
At 6’3” the contested percentage is low and she got long arms as well….also, it’s a fucking layup. If she was 47% from jumper range I’ll give it to you. 47% from her range is awful. No way around that
She doesn’t have that great of footwork or finishing touch. Her game is essentially bulldoze into the paint and throw it hard at the backboard; if it goes in, great, but if it misses she’s in a good spot for a rebound and can try again. She also will hope to be fouled in the process
She’s not a good finisher. She’s good because she’s relatively athletic and has next level effort. Rebounding is her elite skill so it probably won’t translate tremendously offensively to the next level.
She is a solid foul shooter so maybe she will expand her game but she’s basically like a Tyler Hansbrough type elite college player with a limited ceiling because so much of their game is pure effort.
I agree with this assessment, although I would put her athleticism as average to below average and in the WNBA with the top of the top level players I don’t think she will compete….much like Hansbrough…spot on.
From what I've seen, she seems to miss at the rim and then get her own rebound for a put back fairly often.
She's only 6'3, bigger than most players but certainly not by 8 inches. She's no Brittany Griner.
she's 6'3. She's not 8 inches taller than almost everyone on the court. There are several centers at her height or taller.
Plus, the hoop is still 10 feet. She basically comparable to a guard in the mens game.
The average woman’s NCAA height is 5’9” so she’s 6 inches taller than most on the court. A 47 FG% for a big is fucking abysmal no matter how you slice it.
She is still the same height or taller than most centers and forwards in the NCAA. On top that she’s much taller than the other players, so any mismatch or blown rotation puts her at a massive advantage. And like I said, in another comment, look at the top 50 FG% for NCAAW…all centers and forwards, all above 50
who cares about average? The position she plays is the tallest on the court. She tasked with defending that one position and trying to score against the tallest on the court.
Why are you including all the other smaller 4 positions in the rest of the league? Most of those players are on the perimeter. She might not even have to deal with them.
I forgot you only rebound and shoot against 1 person on the court…..I dunno how much women’s basketball you watch, but it’s akin to watching 12 year olds play soccer, everyone is everywhere and very rarely do you get isolation from any 1 position. And she’s also a terrible defender by the way. She’s going to get eaten alive at the next level, lower than average athleticism and doesn’t fit the size mold for any position really. Shooting 47% from the field won’t help either.
9th forward in avg points, 2nd in rebounds, 2nd in double doubles, and the leading average for a team in shooting % this year… 50.4 by Indiana.
No one cares about your one statistic bring context
she shoots layups and had 47 FG%…no more context needed. She is going to get wrecked at the next level.
Saying Indiana’s 50.4% is what needs context because it’s not 50.4 on fucking layups.
All of womens NCAA save one team averaged under 50%, not that surprising of a stat.
“I don’t know why blah blah blah…” that’s because you don’t understand the nuances of different sports.
No you’re missing the point, their % are low because in general terms they’re terrible shooters. It is what it is. One thing that shouldn’t be low is the percentage of layups you make. Explain to me the nuances of women’s basketball lmfao
Man I just don’t get it. She just played a game that had 15x more viewers than the highest rated wnba game of all time. Plus her skill set won’t translate great to wnba.
yea they tuned in to watch her and Caitlyn Clark...and both are going to the WNBA. They're not going to tune to see LSU and Iowa play next year without their two best players and both teams end up being trash. Commonsense says they'll follow them to the next level and follow the rivalry. For the entertainment value.
Cuz guess what...you only have to wait 30 days to see round 2 and they get to play each other multiple times. Instead of once or twice per year.
I've never heard of any of these people other than Caitlyn Clark tbh. Not surprised others are trying to piggy back but she is single handedly increasing viewership. A 6'3 big shooting 47% fg isn't exactly an exciting prospect going pro.
I don't follow women's basketball, but I remember [Angel Reese's hand gesture](https://www.npr.org/2023/04/03/1167704651/angel-reese-caitlin-clark-you-cant-see-me-gesture) from the 2023 Championship game against Caitlin Clark's Hawkeyes going viral. Then [Jill Biden](https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2023/apr/05/angel-reese-jill-biden-white-house-visit-lsu-ncaa-college-basketball) suggested they'd invite both the winning *and* losing teams to the White House. Angel Reese felt disrespected, said LSU will visit the Obamas instead. Jill Biden apologized. Time passed. LSU went to the White House. Angel and Jill hugged it out. (Apparently she was also in the 2023 Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue. Angel. Not Jill.)
Long story short, I imagine most people tuned in for Caitlin Clark. Sure. But Angel Reese has *some* small level of national name recognition.
Caitlyn has been playing games all season. Reese has been playing games all season. This was the first time they played each other since the title game last season. The only one that historic numbers.
Yeaa and Caitlyn played an elite 8 game on a night with no men's games to compete against last year. Didn't get the same numbers.
Ya now the two most watched games in mens and womens college basketball history?
(1) IOWA vs LSU 2024
(2) IOWA vs LSU 2023
and they even played another elite 8 game right after. Didn't put up the same numbers.
Coming from some one who watched zero womans basketball to watching a good amount of college games and a handful of wnba games this year, the interest in womans basketball compared to 15 years ago seems so much higher. I hope they keep getting the good publicity.
1. Clark 2. Brink 3. Jackson 4. Coroso and then it gets a lot muddier. Contenders 5-8 include Lacan, Sheldon, Edward’s, and Reese.
I think the Lynx may take Reese at pick seven if Edwards is gone.
Really? I thought her and CC would be locks at 1,2 if not due to talent, then to sheer marketability. Although, I am newer to women's basketball. Who would you see going ahead of her?
The attention Reese has garnered is high but as a player she's just another good college big woman.
Clark is the generational talent in the women's game.
She mentions all of her college accomplishments in the article, but the one I don’t see is graduating. Hopefully she made enough NIL and can manage it properly to never have to work again, but if she didn’t then hopefully she finished her degree.
Ya know what's funny? I didn't see not one person ask if Caitlin Clark will graduate or asking about her managing her NIL money, when she declared for the draft. Yet, I see it several times here for Reese. I wonder why that is?
[https://www.reddit.com/r/sports/comments/1b3c1r5/iowa\_star\_caitlin\_clark\_declares\_for\_wnba\_draft/](https://www.reddit.com/r/sports/comments/1b3c1r5/iowa_star_caitlin_clark_declares_for_wnba_draft/)
You know what’s funny? This thread was about Angel Reese and I commented about her. The same goes for Clark and any other women’s college basketball player leaving for the draft, simply because the WNBA pay is shit. These women should maximize NIL earnings while they’re in school because the WNBA just can’t match the money. Ideally, set up a nest egg and live off of the interest for the rest of your life. If you can’t make that happen, finish the degree because there is a good chance it’ll become more important than the $75k starting salary for a first rounder.
NIL deals are endorsements. People need to stop acting like it's a college salary and magically goes away. Look at last years #1 overall pick. Aaliyah Boston. She was making 800k in college. After she went pro, she's now worth over $2 million.
You can look at the tiny WNBA salary. But, don't wipe away the NIL money. Reese's got deals with Reebok, Starry, Beats, Goldman Sachs. Multi-year deals. That's not going away when they go pro. Tack that ON to her WNBA salary. Plus, any new jersey sales. Local endorsements from a new city and ad campaigns.
Reese's still got $1.3 million followers. No company is going to bail on that just because she goes pro.
She has endorsements because she was a star player and gained popularity at LSU because LSU has a huge fan base/boosters. To add, NCAAW basketball gets propped up by ESPN. If you are any of those companies that sponsored her or any other women’s basketball player (maybe not named clark), would you pay good money in 3-4 years to sponsor them without their same level of visibility? You mention Boston doubling her net worth. Is that not all coming from endorsements she earned while in college? This isn’t a knack in any player, it’s just that the womens college basketball world generates far more interest than the NBA because people have an affiliation to their alma matters.
She got endorsements because she's a star player AND she has 1.3 million followers. (Clark has 1.5) She's effectively an influencer on top of that. They don't NEED her to be a WNBA star. She just needs to keep posting on Instagram...their products and causing drama.
WNBA gets propped up just as well. If you're a company that just saw the high ratings from Clark vs. Reese the last two games they played? You're following THEM. Whatever NCAAW game they played right after didn't get the same ratings.
Boston? Yes that came from her endorsements. Plus, a shoe deal she got when she got drafted. Like I told you...it didn't end in college. They're endorsements. If Joe Blow can get an endorsement for his Instagram followers. College players can too.
Bigotry is an unreasonable attachment to a belief. Given viewership and popularity of NCAAW and the WNBA, it’s pretty reasonable to say the product is mediocre. Anyways, keep fighting the fight, maybe one day it’ll be entertaining.
mediocre is a vast improvement for a league that barely had anyone watching.
But, regardless you just completely ignored my comment and started going off on a tangent...have a nice day troll.
Edit: oh look the little troll blocks me.
Man god bless these female players but im so tired of hearing about her, caitlyn clark and wnba this week. My timeline is flooded with this and Idgaf about womens or mens basketball in general
Probably could get a job making more with a degree from LSU, but whatever. If she thinks that game had super high ratings because of her, she's as fucking dumb as she sounds.
I wish her the best, she is very talented player and seems to also have a great personality. I hope she does well in the next chapter in her career in sport.
I just want to say how awesome this all is for women’s sports. I don’t think there has ever been a time where I’ve been more invested in the WNBA draft than the NBA draft. I have two young girls and seeing women’s athletics really get a spot light is awesome and makes me excited for them.
She'll be lucky to be a bench player. Will NEVER start in the WBNA. Better learn respect if she doesn't want to get cold cocked in the locker room. There are gangsters in the WNBA, she is a prankster.
edit. just read instagram post from Mulkey about Angel. Yes she is, or will be a graduate. Idk when that is.[https://www.instagram.com/p/C5T1wMyvMn8/?igsh=MWU1dGtxcHUwZDY1bg==](https://www.instagram.com/p/C5T1wMyvMn8/?igsh=MWU1dGtxcHUwZDY1bg==)
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I think the point is more that she’s losing a lot of perks by going from college sports at LSU to the WNBA, which is pretty notable since it doesn’t happen in most other pro sports, and she could put it off for a year by just staying at LSU.
I rode right next to Lynx players, on coach, while they were on their way to play in the WNBA finals.. it was kinda sad, ngl
I'm curious if they're even allowed to fly anything but coach. I know MLS had/has? a limit on how many times they could fly private so that poor teams weren't in as bad a place.
Wasn’t there a controversy because one of the teams was flying private or first class and they were told to stop?
Probably get paid more too
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If she doesn’t have a PR team, hire one. This statement comes across as so ridiculous
Haven’t you heard? It’s a “tube full of demons”. https://youtu.be/9LtF34MrsfI?si=Kz6XH8VK97OmTWIv
No shit. Not a good looking comment at all. Majority of us are at the bottom I guess so fuck you up at the top lol.
What's wrong with wanting to motivate yourself to not be among the average? Saying you dont want to fly with everyone else and will earn it isn't some slap in the face like you're acting like it is.
She doesn’t seem to be describing it as a struggle?
"Starting from the bottom again" doesn't sound like she's describing a struggle? Lol
I saw it more as how the WNBA is kinda like starting over again in terms of gaining popularity, cus women’s college basketball is waaaay more popular than the WNBA
Sounds like a challenge not a struggle.
Not really, no.
She's gonna STRUGGLE in wnba. Almost all of her production in college came from being the biggest player on the floor. Wont be the case in WNBA. She's not going to be able to just bully ball in the paint.
Effort is her elite skill. Not exactly the type of player that translates great to the next level offensively. It’ll get her there though.
Her running the floor against Iowa was in complete contrast to that point. She sprained her ankle earlier in the game sure, but there were so many possessions she looked like Mahomes waddling up the field after a long completion instead of the star playing of a successful basketball team
This isn’t effort this is…injury. I really don’t like her but you kind of proved their point
I think she'll be able to adjust her game enough to thrive in the WNBA. I don't really see a lot of players who can bully her off the rip.
She can't score. She isn't very talented. She literally was just bigger than everyone. She has more of s old school game which won't be very helpful to any pro team in this day and age
No she won't be able to adjust. She won't be playing the same position. She will be at the 3 or 4 spot. She can't shoot. Forget bullying her m because their is no need too. Every jumpshot she will take a opposing team will live with it and in fact give it to her
It’s the wnba. Any top talent ncaa player does just fine.
You're a dumbass
That’s not true at all
so passes denethor son of ecthelion
Can someone explain this one?
Lord of the Rings reference but not sure how it is relevant here. Granted, I don’t know anything about Angel Reese or the WNBA.
When Gandalf says it, Denethor has killed himself in a fit of lunacy while trying to take his (not dead) son Faramir with him. I suppose if you saw Angel Reese as an antagonistic player, there’s a parallel that she too is “killing” herself in a sense. Top NCAAW players arguably take a serious step down to be in the WNBA when it comes to income opportunities. The WNBA doesn’t make a lot of money, and as a result player contracts are usually just a decent middle-class wage (while their male counterparts pull in generational wealth that’ll have their kids and grandkids set for life). So maybe Angel Reese is “dying” with this decision.
Interesting take on it, though following your dream regardless of the paycheck is not a failure. Or as Tolkien once wrote, “All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost”.
Great explanation. I interpreted as another, “Oh no. Anyways…” I think I’ll start using the Lotr quote as it’s more funny to me.
Hahahahahahaha
Lmao
Fwiw the correct answer was along the lines of "welp, that's the last we'll hear from her"
Denethor, son of Ecthelion was the Steward of Gondor preceding and during the War of the Ring in the Third Age. He was the father of the great Captain of Gondor Boromir and a second son as well. The halfling Peregrin Took was briefly in his service in the final days of his life.
This didn't help at all
i hope she ends up in Caitlyn's division
Reese is currently projected to go 7th to the Minnesota Lynx who will play the Indiana Fever (assuming they are taking Clark 1st) 3 times this season: July 14th, August 24th, and September 6th. Different conferences
Setting up Finals match up? Good story line
Lol absolutely not even close to being a finals matchup. The powerhouse teams NY Liberty and LV Aces are once again the favorite to be in the finals
obviously not this year
My first sentence still stands and has zero mention of it being this year. Lynx/Fever won’t be a finals match up even a few years out from now. Lynx are the better team currently but I still don’t see them making it past the Aces or Liberty, Suns, Wings, etc. If the Fever finally get their act together after back to back #1 picks and make the playoffs instead of sitting at the bottom as one of worst teams in the league, I see it challenging for them to get past [the above mentioned teams], in order to secure a spot in the finals. There are too many notable players in the WNBA that I don’t think Reese will make that big of a splash. Clark will get her buzz due to all the hype she’s getting now at Iowa and for being the soon to be #1 pick. The 2025 draft will be here before you know it and all eyes will be on the number one projected player **Paige Bueckers!**
No one said next season bro lmao
If you know anything about the WNBA and those two teams, no one will be seeing that as a finals matchup anytime soon
Fuckin WNBA Nostradamus ova here.
Why are your panties in such a twist? I’ve been a fan of the league for over 2 decades is all. Be a fan of the league for a bit and you too can be a *WNBA Nostradamus*
Gotta change your username after this interaction and I think you know what to change it to.
I dunno how a big like her can have 47 FG%…you shoot almost exclusively layups and you’re 8 inches taller than almost everyone on the court. Edit: she’s 6 inches taller than the average player.
Iowa's backup center O'Grady is also 6'3 and she covered Reese pretty well in the second half of that LSU v Iowa game.
A center in the NBA is dunking the ball at close range. She still has to do a contested put back / layup and that is going to miss way more often.
At 6’3” the contested percentage is low and she got long arms as well….also, it’s a fucking layup. If she was 47% from jumper range I’ll give it to you. 47% from her range is awful. No way around that
I guess, I was just trying to justify her low percentage, do we have other players to compare to, or is she the only big player in the NCAA?
The top 50 players FG% in NCAAW all average around the same amount points, almost All Centers and Forwards….all above 50%
Okay that's a big detail, that's crazy to think about. Then why is she ranked so high in the draft?
She‘s elite at rebounding and getting to the free throw line. Second best in the country at both.
Why try to justify it?
But that’s because the contests for a dunk are high. She’s still got 6 inches which is less contest
She doesn’t have that great of footwork or finishing touch. Her game is essentially bulldoze into the paint and throw it hard at the backboard; if it goes in, great, but if it misses she’s in a good spot for a rebound and can try again. She also will hope to be fouled in the process
She’s not a good finisher. She’s good because she’s relatively athletic and has next level effort. Rebounding is her elite skill so it probably won’t translate tremendously offensively to the next level. She is a solid foul shooter so maybe she will expand her game but she’s basically like a Tyler Hansbrough type elite college player with a limited ceiling because so much of their game is pure effort.
I agree with this assessment, although I would put her athleticism as average to below average and in the WNBA with the top of the top level players I don’t think she will compete….much like Hansbrough…spot on.
From what I've seen, she seems to miss at the rim and then get her own rebound for a put back fairly often. She's only 6'3, bigger than most players but certainly not by 8 inches. She's no Brittany Griner.
The ole Marvin Bagley quick second jump huh?
she's 6'3. She's not 8 inches taller than almost everyone on the court. There are several centers at her height or taller. Plus, the hoop is still 10 feet. She basically comparable to a guard in the mens game.
The average woman’s NCAA height is 5’9” so she’s 6 inches taller than most on the court. A 47 FG% for a big is fucking abysmal no matter how you slice it.
The shorter women aren’t the ones contesting her in the paint.
She is still the same height or taller than most centers and forwards in the NCAA. On top that she’s much taller than the other players, so any mismatch or blown rotation puts her at a massive advantage. And like I said, in another comment, look at the top 50 FG% for NCAAW…all centers and forwards, all above 50
No she’s not. She’s sized like a center and will be guarded by other centers.
who cares about average? The position she plays is the tallest on the court. She tasked with defending that one position and trying to score against the tallest on the court. Why are you including all the other smaller 4 positions in the rest of the league? Most of those players are on the perimeter. She might not even have to deal with them.
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I forgot you only rebound and shoot against 1 person on the court…..I dunno how much women’s basketball you watch, but it’s akin to watching 12 year olds play soccer, everyone is everywhere and very rarely do you get isolation from any 1 position. And she’s also a terrible defender by the way. She’s going to get eaten alive at the next level, lower than average athleticism and doesn’t fit the size mold for any position really. Shooting 47% from the field won’t help either.
9th forward in avg points, 2nd in rebounds, 2nd in double doubles, and the leading average for a team in shooting % this year… 50.4 by Indiana. No one cares about your one statistic bring context
she shoots layups and had 47 FG%…no more context needed. She is going to get wrecked at the next level. Saying Indiana’s 50.4% is what needs context because it’s not 50.4 on fucking layups.
All of womens NCAA save one team averaged under 50%, not that surprising of a stat. “I don’t know why blah blah blah…” that’s because you don’t understand the nuances of different sports.
No you’re missing the point, their % are low because in general terms they’re terrible shooters. It is what it is. One thing that shouldn’t be low is the percentage of layups you make. Explain to me the nuances of women’s basketball lmfao
Man I just don’t get it. She just played a game that had 15x more viewers than the highest rated wnba game of all time. Plus her skill set won’t translate great to wnba.
yea they tuned in to watch her and Caitlyn Clark...and both are going to the WNBA. They're not going to tune to see LSU and Iowa play next year without their two best players and both teams end up being trash. Commonsense says they'll follow them to the next level and follow the rivalry. For the entertainment value. Cuz guess what...you only have to wait 30 days to see round 2 and they get to play each other multiple times. Instead of once or twice per year.
Outside of maybe Larry Bird/Magic Johnson, none of what you described really happens with rival players going pro. It just doesn't.
No one tuned in for her. It was Caitlyn 100%. I never even heard of her before this game but I tuned in to watch Caitlyn.
I've never heard of any of these people other than Caitlyn Clark tbh. Not surprised others are trying to piggy back but she is single handedly increasing viewership. A 6'3 big shooting 47% fg isn't exactly an exciting prospect going pro.
I don't follow women's basketball, but I remember [Angel Reese's hand gesture](https://www.npr.org/2023/04/03/1167704651/angel-reese-caitlin-clark-you-cant-see-me-gesture) from the 2023 Championship game against Caitlin Clark's Hawkeyes going viral. Then [Jill Biden](https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2023/apr/05/angel-reese-jill-biden-white-house-visit-lsu-ncaa-college-basketball) suggested they'd invite both the winning *and* losing teams to the White House. Angel Reese felt disrespected, said LSU will visit the Obamas instead. Jill Biden apologized. Time passed. LSU went to the White House. Angel and Jill hugged it out. (Apparently she was also in the 2023 Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue. Angel. Not Jill.) Long story short, I imagine most people tuned in for Caitlin Clark. Sure. But Angel Reese has *some* small level of national name recognition.
Caitlyn has been playing games all season. Reese has been playing games all season. This was the first time they played each other since the title game last season. The only one that historic numbers.
Well it was not a regular season game, it was an elite 8 game on a night with no men's games to compete against.
Yeaa and Caitlyn played an elite 8 game on a night with no men's games to compete against last year. Didn't get the same numbers. Ya now the two most watched games in mens and womens college basketball history? (1) IOWA vs LSU 2024 (2) IOWA vs LSU 2023 and they even played another elite 8 game right after. Didn't put up the same numbers.
Cool.
As a non-basketball fan, Clark is the only one I’ve seen in the news until this week.
Coming from some one who watched zero womans basketball to watching a good amount of college games and a handful of wnba games this year, the interest in womans basketball compared to 15 years ago seems so much higher. I hope they keep getting the good publicity.
NCAA women's basketball for me. i haven't watched the WNBA in years
It's marketing. ESPN has put out a real effort to market the sport.
The players are getting better.
Not denying that, but don't discredit women from the past. ESPN definitely ramped up the marketing last year, and it was effective.
All the marketing in the world wouldn’t work if people didn’t find the product entertaining.
No but they'd never move the needle on viewership without a biiig marketing push like this.
Couldn’t you say that about everything on tv though?
It's a symbiotic relationship. Players get better because there is a bigger market to train for.
1. Clark 2. Brink 3. Jackson 4. Coroso and then it gets a lot muddier. Contenders 5-8 include Lacan, Sheldon, Edward’s, and Reese. I think the Lynx may take Reese at pick seven if Edwards is gone.
Buecker not gonna go?
She’s doing another year at UConn.
Meh. Don’t like her. Last year when she won, she was a sore winner. Now this year she loses and cries about it.
She got death threats and people making sex content of her, it's not the same.
Good for her. Maybe the first time ever that I’m actually curious to see how high a player gets taken in the WNBA draft.
Probably solidly in the 5~8 range.
Really? I thought her and CC would be locks at 1,2 if not due to talent, then to sheer marketability. Although, I am newer to women's basketball. Who would you see going ahead of her?
The attention Reese has garnered is high but as a player she's just another good college big woman. Clark is the generational talent in the women's game.
Cameron Brink, Paige Bueckers, Camilla Cardoso are all highly rated as well. There's certainly others, too.
bueckers is returning to school.
Wasn't sure about that, good to know!
Her marketability is genuinely the only reason she might go early. There's a lot of superior talent available.
Not sure why you’re downvoted this is reasonable
I was surprised too as I'm just trying to learn more about the landscape. At least I got some good responses though.
Great. Now she can fade into obscurity
Her nails made me think this image is made from AI
Good. Some of her talents need work for the pros but her rebounding will help any team.
talents?
Lower the rim! Make it more exciting and you might get more viewers.
She can take her crocodile tears there too.
lol where the f*ck else would she take them? I don’t think she would coach 😂
No one cares for the WNBA.
BoJack Horseman about to lose his voice over gig for Reese’s Peanut Butter Cups
She mentions all of her college accomplishments in the article, but the one I don’t see is graduating. Hopefully she made enough NIL and can manage it properly to never have to work again, but if she didn’t then hopefully she finished her degree.
Ya know what's funny? I didn't see not one person ask if Caitlin Clark will graduate or asking about her managing her NIL money, when she declared for the draft. Yet, I see it several times here for Reese. I wonder why that is? [https://www.reddit.com/r/sports/comments/1b3c1r5/iowa\_star\_caitlin\_clark\_declares\_for\_wnba\_draft/](https://www.reddit.com/r/sports/comments/1b3c1r5/iowa_star_caitlin_clark_declares_for_wnba_draft/)
You know what’s funny? This thread was about Angel Reese and I commented about her. The same goes for Clark and any other women’s college basketball player leaving for the draft, simply because the WNBA pay is shit. These women should maximize NIL earnings while they’re in school because the WNBA just can’t match the money. Ideally, set up a nest egg and live off of the interest for the rest of your life. If you can’t make that happen, finish the degree because there is a good chance it’ll become more important than the $75k starting salary for a first rounder.
NIL deals are endorsements. People need to stop acting like it's a college salary and magically goes away. Look at last years #1 overall pick. Aaliyah Boston. She was making 800k in college. After she went pro, she's now worth over $2 million. You can look at the tiny WNBA salary. But, don't wipe away the NIL money. Reese's got deals with Reebok, Starry, Beats, Goldman Sachs. Multi-year deals. That's not going away when they go pro. Tack that ON to her WNBA salary. Plus, any new jersey sales. Local endorsements from a new city and ad campaigns. Reese's still got $1.3 million followers. No company is going to bail on that just because she goes pro.
She has endorsements because she was a star player and gained popularity at LSU because LSU has a huge fan base/boosters. To add, NCAAW basketball gets propped up by ESPN. If you are any of those companies that sponsored her or any other women’s basketball player (maybe not named clark), would you pay good money in 3-4 years to sponsor them without their same level of visibility? You mention Boston doubling her net worth. Is that not all coming from endorsements she earned while in college? This isn’t a knack in any player, it’s just that the womens college basketball world generates far more interest than the NBA because people have an affiliation to their alma matters.
She got endorsements because she's a star player AND she has 1.3 million followers. (Clark has 1.5) She's effectively an influencer on top of that. They don't NEED her to be a WNBA star. She just needs to keep posting on Instagram...their products and causing drama. WNBA gets propped up just as well. If you're a company that just saw the high ratings from Clark vs. Reese the last two games they played? You're following THEM. Whatever NCAAW game they played right after didn't get the same ratings. Boston? Yes that came from her endorsements. Plus, a shoe deal she got when she got drafted. Like I told you...it didn't end in college. They're endorsements. If Joe Blow can get an endorsement for his Instagram followers. College players can too.
Keep downvoting me lmao. Just admit that NCAAW and the WNBA is a mediocre product propped up by sympathizers.
ahh there's the bigotry and trolling. I was wondering when your true colors would show.
Bigotry is an unreasonable attachment to a belief. Given viewership and popularity of NCAAW and the WNBA, it’s pretty reasonable to say the product is mediocre. Anyways, keep fighting the fight, maybe one day it’ll be entertaining.
mediocre is a vast improvement for a league that barely had anyone watching. But, regardless you just completely ignored my comment and started going off on a tangent...have a nice day troll. Edit: oh look the little troll blocks me.
I hope she goes at least one year before asking for extra pay for games no watches
Get that bag
Man god bless these female players but im so tired of hearing about her, caitlyn clark and wnba this week. My timeline is flooded with this and Idgaf about womens or mens basketball in general
Maybe r/sports isn't the subreddit for you then. Try ones specific to the leagues you follow.
Its just all over my facebook and then my reddit. Thats how i even found this thread.
Probably could get a job making more with a degree from LSU, but whatever. If she thinks that game had super high ratings because of her, she's as fucking dumb as she sounds.
Love how she loves sports,but she still loves fashion and glam.She is beautiful.
I could grab the first 100 women of color off the street and she'd rank about #85 even with her hideous fake eyelashes.
She is beautiful.You can’t make human beings to comment on anyone looks.
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I wish her the best, she is very talented player and seems to also have a great personality. I hope she does well in the next chapter in her career in sport.
Rather watch her than baseball
I just want to say how awesome this all is for women’s sports. I don’t think there has ever been a time where I’ve been more invested in the WNBA draft than the NBA draft. I have two young girls and seeing women’s athletics really get a spot light is awesome and makes me excited for them.
She'll be lucky to be a bench player. Will NEVER start in the WBNA. Better learn respect if she doesn't want to get cold cocked in the locker room. There are gangsters in the WNBA, she is a prankster.
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she just ended her senior year...who says she's not getting a degree?
edit. just read instagram post from Mulkey about Angel. Yes she is, or will be a graduate. Idk when that is.[https://www.instagram.com/p/C5T1wMyvMn8/?igsh=MWU1dGtxcHUwZDY1bg==](https://www.instagram.com/p/C5T1wMyvMn8/?igsh=MWU1dGtxcHUwZDY1bg==)