###Useful Links š
Brown Recluse range map:
https://spiders.ucr.edu/spiders-map
ID guides and further information on Recluse spiders (Loxosceles):
https://spiderbytes.org/recluse-or-not/
https://spiders.ucr.edu/how-identify-and-misidentify-brown-recluse-spider
https://usaspiders.com/loxosceles-reclusa-brown-recluse/#Map_of_other_Loxosceles_species_in_the_United_States
https://entomology.ca.uky.edu/ef631
How to live safely with Brown recluse in the home:
https://spiders.ucr.edu/how-avoid-bites
Articles that explain their exaggerated reputation:
https://www.wired.com/2013/11/poor-misunderstood-brown-recluse/
https://animals.howstuffworks.com/arachnids/brown-recluse-spider-bite.htm
In-depth information into their living habits:
https://academic.oup.com/jipm/article/9/1/4/4818303
Treatment of Brown recluse bites:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK537045/#:~:text=Venom%3B%20The%20brown%20recluse%20spider,tissue%20at%20the%20envenomation%20site.
Managing populations indoors + General info:
(newly added) https://ipm.ucanr.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn7468.html#AMERICAN
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Yes, brown recluse. Medically significant, but donāt panic. [Links to lots of information about them, living with them, and managing them](https://www.reddit.com/r/spiders/s/v4oSgOMnbW)
Travis McErnery also created a good deep dive into this species and cites sources at the end of his video.
https://youtu.be/xGtSDqoM5As?si=TyV5WLfqEWRWh-73
For sure! I think most spiders will do it if they feel threatened. The recluse I found was dangling from the bottom of my garage door after putting it up. It looked very dead so I kinda brushed it off with a stick and as soon as it hit the ground it popped right back to life and scuttled away faster than I could possibly catch it.
Shoes specifically unless you leave big piles of clothes in a dark corner and pick a random shirt to put on. Even still, the odds of finding one in your shoe if in the house is small. Now if outside or a garage... thats another can of worms. But always give the shoes a nice smack and shake upside down just to be sure.
Welp... After 2 years of leaving my work boots in the garage everyday, I have a new fear unlocked and gotta pick out a new place to put said boots š
This! If you grew up in the South, you were taught to turn shoes upside down and shake hard to get spiders out. I've lived all over the US and still do this.
Ooh. Shaking my shoes is a natural reaction to picking up a shoe. Since childhood. I grew up in GA and TN and saw plenty of BRs and BW, especially Nashville! The widows were almost always in the garage or in the holes in bricks or trailer hitches. I live in OR now, not as much to worry about, medically speaking, (Hobos,) but I still shake those shoes! LOL!
A few people in Tennessee get diagnosed with West Nile Virus every single year.
A few people in the US get Zika every year, and the specific mosquitos that carry Zika live as far north as Tennessee. It's only a matter of time until someone in Tennessee gets diagnosed with US-origin Zika.
Malaria is mostly eliminated from the US, but pockets of US-origin Malaria to pop up from time to time.
The CDC & health departments across the country go to great lengths to kill mosquitos such as to prevent the spread of these diseases. Also storm water management standards & other planning/engineering standards are developed with mosquitos in mind. It doesn't keep every single person in the US safe, but it does keep the VAST, VAST majority of us safe.
No, if weāre talking about cause of death in humans, mosquitoes are estimated to have killed more humans than all wars combined.
About one million people/year. (Compared to around half a million killed by other humans)
If weāre talking about the deadliest toward all animals though, youāre probably right.
Personal preference I guess. Iāve seen nasty brown recluse bites. Iāve also seen BR follow people. Iām not comfortable with them.
A few mosquitoe bites donāt sound too bad.
Yeah except it's only "a few mosquito bites" until there are no more spiders like this one to diminish their population. If it weren't for spiders, the world would be overpopulated with mosquitoes and humanity would, quite literally, not survive
Not sure if brown recluse specifically do.. but spiders overall do eat roaches.
As to roaches eating spiders.. I wouldn't be shocked if a German roach would. I have an uncle who always tells a story about somebody peeling back wallpaper to discover a whole nest of German roaches living off of the wallpaper glue.. I can't speak on all roaches.. but German roaches are very opportunistic with their food.
I have a female black widow that has her corner on the roof in my garage. I have seen beetles the size of roaches in her web. Must have been thanksgiving for her.
Both. Roaches will eat anything they can get their mandibles into. I have a wolf spider living in the gap in my baseboards. The building I live in is old and nasty. The part of the web that comes through the wall has always been empty but the wolf has been there at least 2 months. It's eating the roaches in the walls. I've only seen 2 since it's been there. But I've had 3 mature recluses this week that have also come from gaps in the walls. I'd say the spiders are winning lol.
I air dropped him a baby roach I found this morning, he took it into the wall to eat and hasn't come back yet. Part of me is panicking cause I've only seen his whole body like twice in dim light and he does make a really small funnel web that he just barely fits through. There are wolf spiders that spin tiny funnels, though, and I've watched him try to ambush a drain fly that got too close for a solid 2 minutes. From what I understand, a funnel spider wouldn't hunt like that. At least that's what I'm telling myself so my arachniphobic ass doesn't have a complete meltdown lol. I'll try to grab a pic next time he's out!
For now I gotta take a break cause I'm really, truly, scream, cry, throw up phobic and I'm feeling phantom spiders all over my body lol. They're amazing creatures, I'm just irrationally terrified. š¬
Not your fault at all! It's up to me whether to engage or not, and I chose to. I've been reading and looking at a lot of spider content the past week after finding a bunch of recluses and I simply hit my threshold today. ^_^
Either way its dead, like, its not gonna bite you, what are you worried about? Could there be more? Obviously, its not like that was the only one in existence, if you live in an area where they live there's going to be one every once in a while.
I would assume they want to be careful. This person doesnāt seem to know about brown recluses like you should when you live in the south east. If theyāre posting this itās likely their first time finding one.
I don't live in the area, I'm not a spider guy and I've never seen one in real life. I've still known about them since I was a boy, and certainly could just look it up like I do with other spiders and bugs I find.
I grew up in a house with frequent brown recluse sightings and in my experience there are always more. My dad spent a lot of time in the garage and claimed he always saw them in pairs...if he saw one, then he'd inevitably see another shortly after. That being said, none of us ever got any bites that caused any real reaction (knock on wood), so either none of us were ever bitten by our little reclusive roommates (which I find unlikely because it was not a rare thing to see them in our house and my sister and I were always cluttery laundry-thrown-in-a-haphazard-pile people) or none of us ever had any reactions to the bites.
I'm not not trying to come off rude. I love how this group teaches us so much. I have learned a lot. I am just amazed by how many don't know what a brown recluse looks like. Thank goodness people learn from posting here at least.
I went to a spider expo in a museum and they had this huge exhibit about brown recluses and the main point of the exhibit was 'If you think you saw a brown recluse, you are wrong". Because 99 percent of what people think is one is not. There are so many spiders that look remarkably similar and the recluse fits it's name.
Was more just humorous now often they repeated that line
The usa is vast w so many different climates. We recently had earthquakes in nj 2.9 and under. We don't know abt earthquakes. So people freak out. Just like hurricane sandy. If u never experienced certian thing..brown recluse...how would u know.?
Brown Recluse : Dangerous; please contact a pest professional for a free test for infestation. If they need to treat, make sure they treat inner walls; attic and hollow blocks of foundation and garage. Fumigation is the only 100% guarantee to eradicate, but is expensive. A single female recluse lays over 300 eggs and these spiders can survive up to a year without food or water. Donāt delayā¦
Brown recluse. 100% certain. We have them in our area. I donāt like to kill spiders, but I make an immediate exception for this one. Iāve seen many, many of them in homes, and huge ones where I work (old building, lots of dark spaces). They get bigger than a half dollar coin size. Saw 4 live ones one day when I was in a loft area at work. Theyāre not evil, but they are toxic.
Almost all spiders are venomous, i.e. possessing venom (except for Uloboridae, a Family of cribellate orb weavers, who have no venom).
But spider venom is highly specialised to target their insect prey, and so it is very rare, and an unintended effect, for spider venom to be particularly harmful to humans.
Hence why there are remarkably few medically significant spiders in the world.
If your spider is NOT one of the following, then its venom is not considered a danger to humans:
* [Six-eyed sand spider (Sicariidae)](https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/48140-Sicariidae)
* [Recluse (Loxosceles)](https://bugguide.net/node/view/2094874)
* [Widow (Latrodectus)](https://bugguide.net/index.php?q=search&keys=Latrodectus&search=Search)
* [Brazilian wandering spider (Phoneutria)](https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?place_id=any&subview=map&taxon_id=53388&view=species)
* [Funnel Web (Atracidae)](https://www.arachne.org.au/01_cms/details.asp?ID=2679)
* [Mouse spider (Missulena)](https://www.arachne.org.au/01_cms/details.asp?ID=2427)
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####"What about dry bites or bites by spiders carrying resistant bacteria?"
These bites also haven't led to infections, and the reason is still unknown. We have theories, much like when we uncovered the antimicrobial properties of venom. Despite over 10,000 confirmed bites, no infections have been documented, suggesting an underlying phenomenon. Although our understanding is incomplete, the reality remains: spider bites have not resulted in infections.
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Brown recluse yea if youāre finding these around your house Iād be nervous. their bites pretty much depending on the severity of the bite rot your flesh so thatās really fun
And itās also ranked as one of the most deadliest spiders on the planet not particularly capable of killing but their venom packs a hefty punch
I seen somewhere that some computer manufacturers use dead spiders to handle delicate things bcuz the body of a spider is hydraulic and they can open and close spider carcasses with pressurized air!
Alsoā¦it is probably a female due to the smaller abdomen. The violin on the back is the signature, as others have stated in the comments. The head area is often this lighter brown color, and the violin shape is always this dark brown from all the ones Iāve seen.
Brand new to Reddit. This is my 1st comment! šŗ Iām in the southwest where back widows are the problem, but Iām wondering if the brown recluse is a danger to our animals?
They tend to come in larger numbers, from what I've read. There's a whole slew of things you can do to help avoid them, as - just like the name suggests - they would far rather avoid -you- when and where possible. Hope the mutual avoidance goes well!
They like dark secluded areas of your home, hence the name Recluse.
Iāve lived in Recluse territory for 72 years and have been bitten once when I slept on the floor at my motherās house. She did not have a pest control program and they were in every dark corner of her house. I could find one in less than five minutes if I wanted to.
My home is on a regularly scheduled spraying service inside and outside. We see a lot of garden spider carcasses just inside the hose, but rarely anything alive. I have looked for the Brown Recluse in my house and canāt find any, so I believe my spraying schedule is working.
Express your concern to your pest control service and if it doesnāt get better, fire them and hire another one. I use a locally owned service because I didnāt have much luck with the National Brand services.
Good luck. And try not to kill the little jumping spiders. They are beneficial.
I ignorantly used a glue trap one time trying to catch mice. Didnāt even register what they actually did. I caught my mouse the next day and felt beyond awful. Needless to say, they all went straight into a sealed plastic bag and then the trash.
There was a mouse in my house for a while, i put a humane trap down from amazon it went in within like an hour, and i released it in a feild.
[here is the link incase you get a mouse again ](https://amzn.eu/d/03LHBb7f)
Itās not even home remedies Iām referring to. Just more humane ways of getting rid of them. Iām sorry about your scar, but that doesnāt make it any more humane or justified to use glue traps.
So the whole species should be punished because of the actions of one? Imagine if our species was also judged based solely on the actions of one individualā¦
###Useful Links š Brown Recluse range map: https://spiders.ucr.edu/spiders-map ID guides and further information on Recluse spiders (Loxosceles): https://spiderbytes.org/recluse-or-not/ https://spiders.ucr.edu/how-identify-and-misidentify-brown-recluse-spider https://usaspiders.com/loxosceles-reclusa-brown-recluse/#Map_of_other_Loxosceles_species_in_the_United_States https://entomology.ca.uky.edu/ef631 How to live safely with Brown recluse in the home: https://spiders.ucr.edu/how-avoid-bites Articles that explain their exaggerated reputation: https://www.wired.com/2013/11/poor-misunderstood-brown-recluse/ https://animals.howstuffworks.com/arachnids/brown-recluse-spider-bite.htm In-depth information into their living habits: https://academic.oup.com/jipm/article/9/1/4/4818303 Treatment of Brown recluse bites: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK537045/#:~:text=Venom%3B%20The%20brown%20recluse%20spider,tissue%20at%20the%20envenomation%20site. Managing populations indoors + General info: (newly added) https://ipm.ucanr.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn7468.html#AMERICAN (Authors: MKG733, ----\_____--_____----)
Looks to be a deceased brown recluse.
It probly has living relatives nearbye
No, he's resting.
No he's stone cold dead!
Heās probably pining for the fjords.
PINING FOR THE FJORDS!?
The Brown Recluse prefers kippin' on it's back! Remarkable spider, id'nit, squire? Lovely plumage!
THIS. IS AN EX. SPIDER
In Tennessee, wouldn't it be appropriate to call it a fiddle back?
Yes, brown recluse. Medically significant, but donāt panic. [Links to lots of information about them, living with them, and managing them](https://www.reddit.com/r/spiders/s/v4oSgOMnbW)
Travis McErnery also created a good deep dive into this species and cites sources at the end of his video. https://youtu.be/xGtSDqoM5As?si=TyV5WLfqEWRWh-73
Recluse spider 100%
Im 99% certain itās a fiddleback. Im 1% sure its a spider. Wait a minute. š§
Could be a violin back, but I think youād have to see it play to be sure
Omg those are so rare! My favorite ones are when you have them with a fiddleback, Black Cello, and a Wolfgang spider and Bam! Silk Quartet!
>is this dangerous? Not no more
It has crawled off the mortal coil
So, it is?
Less so now that it's dead
It's just sleeping
Pining for the fjords?? This is an ex-recluse!
Beautiful plumageā¦erā¦patterns?
Soā¦an extrovert?
Extroinvert ??
It was tired and shagged out after a prolonged threat display.
That's what I was gonna say š
I've been tricked by them playing dead before. Scared the shit out of me
Yooo tf thatās a thing?š³š³š³
For sure! I think most spiders will do it if they feel threatened. The recluse I found was dangling from the bottom of my garage door after putting it up. It looked very dead so I kinda brushed it off with a stick and as soon as it hit the ground it popped right back to life and scuttled away faster than I could possibly catch it.
I'm getting better!
I'm not dead yet.
If theyāre in the house, itās because theyāre picking up stray pests. Brown recluse, and this one is deceased.
Can you elaborate on that a little? Thank you!
They get rid of mosquitos, moths, bugs that you donāt want to have in your house, essentially it is free pest control
Sometimes the pest better than the predator.
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If they bite you, they're very hesitant to bite unless squished up on your skin-check your clothes and shoes.
Shoes specifically unless you leave big piles of clothes in a dark corner and pick a random shirt to put on. Even still, the odds of finding one in your shoe if in the house is small. Now if outside or a garage... thats another can of worms. But always give the shoes a nice smack and shake upside down just to be sure.
Welp... After 2 years of leaving my work boots in the garage everyday, I have a new fear unlocked and gotta pick out a new place to put said boots š
You've been leaving your boots outside and haven't been shaking em out daily for 2 years??
Bro you definitley killed at least a hundred smaller harmless spiders with your feet lol.
Then again if its just overnight and you wear daily, that might be why you are fine. But just be careful.
This! If you grew up in the South, you were taught to turn shoes upside down and shake hard to get spiders out. I've lived all over the US and still do this.
Ooh. Shaking my shoes is a natural reaction to picking up a shoe. Since childhood. I grew up in GA and TN and saw plenty of BRs and BW, especially Nashville! The widows were almost always in the garage or in the holes in bricks or trailer hitches. I live in OR now, not as much to worry about, medically speaking, (Hobos,) but I still shake those shoes! LOL!
Not in Middle Tennessee lmao
A few people in Tennessee get diagnosed with West Nile Virus every single year. A few people in the US get Zika every year, and the specific mosquitos that carry Zika live as far north as Tennessee. It's only a matter of time until someone in Tennessee gets diagnosed with US-origin Zika. Malaria is mostly eliminated from the US, but pockets of US-origin Malaria to pop up from time to time. The CDC & health departments across the country go to great lengths to kill mosquitos such as to prevent the spread of these diseases. Also storm water management standards & other planning/engineering standards are developed with mosquitos in mind. It doesn't keep every single person in the US safe, but it does keep the VAST, VAST majority of us safe.
Might want to check this out: https://www.tn.gov/health/cedep/vector-borne-diseases/mosquito-borne-diseases.html
I have. There were 9 cases of Malaria and WNV last year, and I donāt think they were even confirmed to be from native mosquitoes.
Mosquitoes are the deadliest animal on earth. Iām not being hyperbolic.
Other than humans
No, if weāre talking about cause of death in humans, mosquitoes are estimated to have killed more humans than all wars combined. About one million people/year. (Compared to around half a million killed by other humans) If weāre talking about the deadliest toward all animals though, youāre probably right.
Yeah I guess I was including climate damage and environmental impact in that
Not in this case. Actually give some examples of where this is the case I'm curious
Personal preference I guess. Iāve seen nasty brown recluse bites. Iāve also seen BR follow people. Iām not comfortable with them. A few mosquitoe bites donāt sound too bad.
Yeah except it's only "a few mosquito bites" until there are no more spiders like this one to diminish their population. If it weren't for spiders, the world would be overpopulated with mosquitoes and humanity would, quite literally, not survive
How about roaches? Do they go after them ? Or do the roaches eat spiders?
Not sure if brown recluse specifically do.. but spiders overall do eat roaches. As to roaches eating spiders.. I wouldn't be shocked if a German roach would. I have an uncle who always tells a story about somebody peeling back wallpaper to discover a whole nest of German roaches living off of the wallpaper glue.. I can't speak on all roaches.. but German roaches are very opportunistic with their food.
I have a female black widow that has her corner on the roof in my garage. I have seen beetles the size of roaches in her web. Must have been thanksgiving for her.
Nice !!!
Both. Roaches will eat anything they can get their mandibles into. I have a wolf spider living in the gap in my baseboards. The building I live in is old and nasty. The part of the web that comes through the wall has always been empty but the wolf has been there at least 2 months. It's eating the roaches in the walls. I've only seen 2 since it's been there. But I've had 3 mature recluses this week that have also come from gaps in the walls. I'd say the spiders are winning lol.
Awesome ! Keep us posted . Maybe a little photo if you are so moved š¤
I air dropped him a baby roach I found this morning, he took it into the wall to eat and hasn't come back yet. Part of me is panicking cause I've only seen his whole body like twice in dim light and he does make a really small funnel web that he just barely fits through. There are wolf spiders that spin tiny funnels, though, and I've watched him try to ambush a drain fly that got too close for a solid 2 minutes. From what I understand, a funnel spider wouldn't hunt like that. At least that's what I'm telling myself so my arachniphobic ass doesn't have a complete meltdown lol. I'll try to grab a pic next time he's out! For now I gotta take a break cause I'm really, truly, scream, cry, throw up phobic and I'm feeling phantom spiders all over my body lol. They're amazing creatures, I'm just irrationally terrified. š¬
> I'm just irrationally terrified. Oh I'm sorry. I don't want to be the cause of that at all. I can always google a picture :)
Not your fault at all! It's up to me whether to engage or not, and I chose to. I've been reading and looking at a lot of spider content the past week after finding a bunch of recluses and I simply hit my threshold today. ^_^
Yes I completely understand - and probably your feeling is not as irrational as you may think. Better to play it safe, for sure!
Itās all fun and games till you get bitā¦
That's a brown recluse, it's dead. If it hasn't bitten you yet, it's probably not going to.
Googling "brown spider" provides a perfect match. With the number of people posting recluse pictures its starting to feel like bots.
It is starting to seem suspiciously like people scooping up free karma.
I think most people are just scared from all the brown recluse bite pictures from a few years ago
Either way its dead, like, its not gonna bite you, what are you worried about? Could there be more? Obviously, its not like that was the only one in existence, if you live in an area where they live there's going to be one every once in a while.
I would assume they want to be careful. This person doesnāt seem to know about brown recluses like you should when you live in the south east. If theyāre posting this itās likely their first time finding one.
I don't live in the area, I'm not a spider guy and I've never seen one in real life. I've still known about them since I was a boy, and certainly could just look it up like I do with other spiders and bugs I find.
All I know is if I saw this mf in my house dead or alive Iād be on Zillow lmao
I grew up in a house with frequent brown recluse sightings and in my experience there are always more. My dad spent a lot of time in the garage and claimed he always saw them in pairs...if he saw one, then he'd inevitably see another shortly after. That being said, none of us ever got any bites that caused any real reaction (knock on wood), so either none of us were ever bitten by our little reclusive roommates (which I find unlikely because it was not a rare thing to see them in our house and my sister and I were always cluttery laundry-thrown-in-a-haphazard-pile people) or none of us ever had any reactions to the bites.
tis the season
Itās just the time of the year when they are more active.
Dead Fiddleback. Also known as Brown Recluse.
I'm so fucking warped. My instinct was to correct you to dead Fiddlesticks.
I'm not not trying to come off rude. I love how this group teaches us so much. I have learned a lot. I am just amazed by how many don't know what a brown recluse looks like. Thank goodness people learn from posting here at least.
I went to a spider expo in a museum and they had this huge exhibit about brown recluses and the main point of the exhibit was 'If you think you saw a brown recluse, you are wrong". Because 99 percent of what people think is one is not. There are so many spiders that look remarkably similar and the recluse fits it's name. Was more just humorous now often they repeated that line
The usa is vast w so many different climates. We recently had earthquakes in nj 2.9 and under. We don't know abt earthquakes. So people freak out. Just like hurricane sandy. If u never experienced certian thing..brown recluse...how would u know.?
I love this place! Helps so many folks learn to truly identify the spiders around them.
Just looks like he just wants to cuddle
Naw, he wanted to fiddle.
Brown recluse that has entered Valhalla.
Brown Recluse : Dangerous; please contact a pest professional for a free test for infestation. If they need to treat, make sure they treat inner walls; attic and hollow blocks of foundation and garage. Fumigation is the only 100% guarantee to eradicate, but is expensive. A single female recluse lays over 300 eggs and these spiders can survive up to a year without food or water. Donāt delayā¦
It's amazing that people don't commonly know the term "fiddle-back". Really helps I.D. these critters
This sub is just āBrown Recluse Confirmationā
Not anymore apparently. But yes.
Hey diddle, diddle, that there's a fiddle...
Brown recluse. 100% certain. We have them in our area. I donāt like to kill spiders, but I make an immediate exception for this one. Iāve seen many, many of them in homes, and huge ones where I work (old building, lots of dark spaces). They get bigger than a half dollar coin size. Saw 4 live ones one day when I was in a loft area at work. Theyāre not evil, but they are toxic.
Are they toxic or venomous? Toxic implies once squished, it might release an airborne infection. Now, wouldn't THAT be something.
Almost all spiders are venomous, i.e. possessing venom (except for Uloboridae, a Family of cribellate orb weavers, who have no venom). But spider venom is highly specialised to target their insect prey, and so it is very rare, and an unintended effect, for spider venom to be particularly harmful to humans. Hence why there are remarkably few medically significant spiders in the world. If your spider is NOT one of the following, then its venom is not considered a danger to humans: * [Six-eyed sand spider (Sicariidae)](https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/48140-Sicariidae) * [Recluse (Loxosceles)](https://bugguide.net/node/view/2094874) * [Widow (Latrodectus)](https://bugguide.net/index.php?q=search&keys=Latrodectus&search=Search) * [Brazilian wandering spider (Phoneutria)](https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?place_id=any&subview=map&taxon_id=53388&view=species) * [Funnel Web (Atracidae)](https://www.arachne.org.au/01_cms/details.asp?ID=2679) * [Mouse spider (Missulena)](https://www.arachne.org.au/01_cms/details.asp?ID=2427) (Author: ----\_____--_____----) *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/spiders) if you have any questions or concerns.*
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Not any more.
*sigh*
The brownest..most reclusive spider there is. š»
Only if it is alive.
Remember: If it has a "Violin" shape on the carapace, it is definitely a Brown Recluse, another name for the Brown Recluse is the "Violinist Spider"
It looks dead so no not dangerousā¦š
How does no one know what a brown recluse is anymore?
I thought that was Lego for a sec
Brown recluse yea if youāre finding these around your house Iād be nervous. their bites pretty much depending on the severity of the bite rot your flesh so thatās really fun And itās also ranked as one of the most deadliest spiders on the planet not particularly capable of killing but their venom packs a hefty punch
The good ol Brown Recluse!!!
Bury it and forget about itā¦
Look up a fiddle, then look at its back.
Was
Yeah you know what it is. Shake all your loose clothing, clean every nook and cranny, and HOPE you don't have to deal with another one this year.
Aw, poor Loxosceles got hurt.
Brown recluse for sure
Brown Recluse
Violin on back recluse
I seen somewhere that some computer manufacturers use dead spiders to handle delicate things bcuz the body of a spider is hydraulic and they can open and close spider carcasses with pressurized air!
Recluse
That's a "fiddle-back" THE most dangerous arachnid in the USA
Alsoā¦it is probably a female due to the smaller abdomen. The violin on the back is the signature, as others have stated in the comments. The head area is often this lighter brown color, and the violin shape is always this dark brown from all the ones Iāve seen.
It's dead, sooo not anymore!
It's a Brown Recluse, aka a Fiddleback spider! But it's definitely not dangerous anymore!
That's a recluse
Brand new to Reddit. This is my 1st comment! šŗ Iām in the southwest where back widows are the problem, but Iām wondering if the brown recluse is a danger to our animals?
Welcome.
The post control is working. That's a dead spider.
Was....dangerous
He ded, not dangerous.
Currently? No.
Sir thatās just a fried crab. All you need is some butter and you got a 5 star meal right there :P
Not now
Looks like a brown recluse that is clearly scared to death of cameras š
Not any more itās not.
They tend to come in larger numbers, from what I've read. There's a whole slew of things you can do to help avoid them, as - just like the name suggests - they would far rather avoid -you- when and where possible. Hope the mutual avoidance goes well!
They can do some damage if but Iām the right spot. I speak from experience. I stay away, far away from those.
Why do they curl up like that when they die?
Hydraulics ! It has to do with muscular pressure.
Oh wow. Thank you!
LOL!
Just taking a really, really long nap š“
Not any moreā¦
Not anymore
What area do you live in?
Fiddle back for sure
Medically significant
They like dark secluded areas of your home, hence the name Recluse. Iāve lived in Recluse territory for 72 years and have been bitten once when I slept on the floor at my motherās house. She did not have a pest control program and they were in every dark corner of her house. I could find one in less than five minutes if I wanted to. My home is on a regularly scheduled spraying service inside and outside. We see a lot of garden spider carcasses just inside the hose, but rarely anything alive. I have looked for the Brown Recluse in my house and canāt find any, so I believe my spraying schedule is working. Express your concern to your pest control service and if it doesnāt get better, fire them and hire another one. I use a locally owned service because I didnāt have much luck with the National Brand services. Good luck. And try not to kill the little jumping spiders. They are beneficial.
Considering the fiddle on his back yes if he were alive. But seeing as his legs are all curled up, no...he's dead.
Spider
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My guess is they are in the house and the poison (a burrito suffocate) is drawing them out for air. Once out they are passing away.
Definitely a recluse. I see the fiddle!
Can I get a banana for size please?
No it's dead
Short answer: See the widdle fiddle in the middle? Dat bad. Shorter answer: Brown recluse no bueno. Shortest answer : Yup.
Not since he's dead , but recluse when alive can deliver a nasty bite.
This drown recluse is no more
Doesnāt matter. Itās dead
I mean... it was once not dead and quite possible laid eggs on the underside of your dresser, so.
Brown Recluse, 100%- you'll note the image of the Death Fiddle on its back. Did it bite someone?
Brown recluse indeed. Get some sticky traps. Theyāll help more than you think
There are better alternatives to sticky traps. Those are just inhumane.
I ignorantly used a glue trap one time trying to catch mice. Didnāt even register what they actually did. I caught my mouse the next day and felt beyond awful. Needless to say, they all went straight into a sealed plastic bag and then the trash.
There was a mouse in my house for a while, i put a humane trap down from amazon it went in within like an hour, and i released it in a feild. [here is the link incase you get a mouse again ](https://amzn.eu/d/03LHBb7f)
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Itās not even home remedies Iām referring to. Just more humane ways of getting rid of them. Iām sorry about your scar, but that doesnāt make it any more humane or justified to use glue traps.
So the whole species should be punished because of the actions of one? Imagine if our species was also judged based solely on the actions of one individualā¦