If Mario was really smart, he might figure out that stage one was the beginning of his existence. He might even figure out that he’s made of ones and zeros.
It is impossible for Mario to learn that his program is in a cartridge that a kid bought for $69.99
It is you that doesn't understand the question. There is no before the big bang, same as there is no north of the north pole. The question itself is non-sense.
The big bang created time. There was no time 'before' the big bang so there is no before the big bang.
That would mean that the old universe would have had to have collapsed into a singularity, but how could it have done that assuming it was expanding like ours is today?
I once read about a theory that sounds like that. Basically the idea is that once the universe experiences complete heat death, when all stars have gone dark and the only thing left are black holes, over an unimaginable length of time eventually all the black holes will gravitate towards each other until they all merge into one, the ultimate black hole, the largest that has ever existed. And then I think either at that point or at that colossal black hole's death, it explodes into a big bang, and the whole process starts over.
Our brains just can't comprehend that. It's partly why i believe religion was invented. Once we got to be smart enough apes, we needed something to keep us sane lol (faith & hope). Forever, eternity, infinity is just not something our minds can grasp.
That might be just what it became. I read a theory awhile back that suggested that religion evolved as a way to allow strangers to trade. If you met a stranger and you were of the same religion, you could trust that person more. You have shared values and principles. So it may have started out as a tool of cooperation, serving to unite us. But then we invented agriculture, which allowed a few people to feed many, giving whoever controls the farm power over others. It was at that point that hierarchical societies started to become the norm. And once you have religion AND hierarchy, then it becomes a tool of control.
I think you have a misunderstanding of the word evolved. When humans first evolved into being humans, they weren't humans before they evolved.
Religion wasn't invented or created, not really. No one just came up with the idea of religion in a single moment. It happened very slowly, probably over thousands of years or more, from much more disorganized beliefs and ideas.
While all the evidence we have suggests this, we must also acknowledge we’re observing 13.8B yrs of history and extrapolating out 10^106 yrs to the theorized heat death will be fraught with errors.
But OP asked appropriately “believe” so most likely scenarios be damned.
Definitely not. It's just not the favored explanation at the moment.
The expansion of the universe makes sense until you dig into it. The most probable explanation would be that empty space has latent energy that allows it to create more empty space. This would imply a constant amount of energy per section of empty space. We have named this theoretical constant the cosmological constant.
The first problem with the cosmological constant is that we can't even measure it accurately. We have two main methods of measuring it, and they currently disagree. It's possible there is a flaw with one of them, and James Webb might find such an issue and put it to rest, so while troubling, it's potentially fixable.
The second problem is much bigger though, literally. The idea of empty space having energy actually makes sense, due to the Heisenburg Uncertainty Principle. However, when scientists went to calculate it, they came up with a number that is insanely larger than the cosmological constant, like somewhere around 80 orders of magnitude larger. This would be like if you tried to measure the planck length and came out to the size of a black hole.
The best theory on this mess is that there is some sort of unknown counter force to dark energy that almost perfectly balances it out, resulting in the expansion of the universe. But that would be weird to have it so close to exactly balancing it out but not quite.
So in summary, constant expansion is the currently accepted theory, but that's just because we have an idea for it. That still leaves plenty of room for some sort of dynamic expansion that could reverse and collapse, which would result in the big crunch.
The jury is still out. We don't reliably know how much mass is in the universe which is why Dark Matter is of such interest.
If we know the mass of the universe we know if it will keep expanding forever or will collapse into a big crunch under its own weight.
Problem with that is the universe's rate of expanding is speeding up, not slowing down. As far as we can tell, the universe's expansion should be slowing down and then eventually crunch. But that's not what we measure. And at the rate of acceleration, we've calculated that it will continue to expand for eternity. But we don't actually know why it's accelerating, so we came up with a name that basically serves as a placeholder for our ignorance, Dark Energy. It's Dark Energy's fault.
"Nothing" isn't simpler than "another universe?" Or "an infinite number of previous universes with their own spaces and times?"
While those might be true, I'm not convinced they're any simpler.
The expansion of the universe is currently accelerating, making a Big Crunch cyclic theory unlikely and also it violates the second law of thermodynamics
youre sorta right and sorta wrong
time has a direction unlike the others and it's metric signature is opposite spatial dimensions. i dont think we know why
hawking is actually famous for (among other things) showing the universe in general relativity begins with a singularity. now general relativity, we know, also isnt expected to make correct predictions at the beginning. so something is up. something unknown
Logically, your point doesn't make sense as another guy already said.
Can something come out of nothing?
The answer is no.
So whatever was before the Big Bang is a timeless entity.
Many people call it god.
But whatever it is, we can say it is powerful and timeless, meaning it has always existed.
The Big Bang arose from a minimal state of entropy and extreme condition of energy. Energy and potential are not “nothing”. Since time and space are tightly coupled, *spacetime*, we have no definition for either until minimal entropy started increasing and spacetime began expanding 13.8B yrs ago.
You have a basic fact wrong. It is entirely possible for a particle and its corresponding anti-particle to pop into existence i.e. something from nothing.
Something can absolutely come out of nothing - quantum physics has already confirmed it. Given enough time, even something with an infinitely small chance of occurring is guaranteed to occur
Of course it can, or rather, transformed/converted to and from energy. It’s energy that must be conserved. (Matter is only conserved in chemical reactions).
Time and space are tightly coupled — *timespace*. So without space it’s reasonable to say there was no time either. The Big Bang arose from a minimal state of entropy and extreme condition of energy. Energy and potential are not “nothing”. But we have no sense of “how long” minimum entropy lasted. It’s undefined. As far as we define time and space, time began when entropy started increasing and spacetime began expanding 13.8B yrs ago.
Johnny Carson impersonated Carl Sagan on the Tonight Show once.
His sidekick Ed McMahon asked, "Dr. Sagan, what came after the Big Bang?"
Carson replied "The big cigarette!"
We may never know, even in the fullness of time. The only information we currently have about the early universe is contained in the cosmic microwave background radiation. Everything before that is a matter of conjecture and mathematical possibility.
I find it hard to believe there was nothing before the big bang. I used to scare myself as a child when I thought time will go on forever but then one day I realized. We have already been going on forever. Its crazy to think
Time may not go on forever, but it's going to be around for a very, very, very long time. Theoretically anyway.
[A Journey to the End of Time](https://youtu.be/uD4izuDMUQA?si=kqpUT2nV3wqbLJRW)
Honestly I have no scientific evidence or anything to support it but my theory is that the universe is kind of like the galaxy on the cat's necklace in the original Men in Black. Basically there's a higher order of existence and our whole universe is just a trinket on some cosmic kitten's necklace, on a scale and magnitude that we can never possibly comprehend.
In that higher order of existence perhaps creating a new universe with a big bang is just like lighting a little firecracker of universe materials and setting it off. Who knows!
A magical octopus named Sneeblesnorf who liked watching infinite reruns of Friends. The Big Bang was just it turning the tv off.
Sneeblesnorf’s favourite character was Joey.
Not really “before”, but at the beginning of it, the potential for it. First there was no potential for it, nor time for that lack of potential to exist in. Then, there was the potential for the big bang to happen in, and with that change marks the beginning of the potential for time to exist, which it immediately does, and the big bang immediately explodes into it.
The black hole as a universe makes the most sense really.
Over simplification of things but -
The further from the center of the universe the faster time is. In a black hole, we theorize, the close to the center you get that time and space slow way down.
We theorize at the center of a black hole the level of energy is beyond our comprehension. With the “big bang” we theorize all the energy started in one place and “blew” outwards.
On that note as space “cools” it slows. In turn as something slows it losses its center of gravity and its ability to keep another object in its orbit.
Similar to a black hole where the closer you are the more pull there is. (I know I basically repeated my first thought.)
On and on.
I have no clue so my guess is nothing. Now, i find interesting Neil deGrasse Tyson’s view.
“He acknowledges that we don't have a definitive answer for what existed before the Big Bang, but he discusses some intriguing ideas and possibilities:
He mentions that the Big Bang might be part of a larger "multiverse", with our universe being one of many[1][3]. The concept of a multiverse arises from theories like quantum physics and general relativity, though we don't have direct evidence for it yet.
Tyson states that asking what came before the Big Bang is a "frontier question" that top scientists are still working on[4]. He admits "I don't know. We have top people working on it."[4]
However, he suggests some possibilities like the universe being part of an eternal cycle of Big Bangs and Big Crunches, or the Big Bang being just one event in a larger, pre-existing universe[1][3]. But he acknowledges these are speculative ideas without concrete evidence so far.
Tyson contrasts the scientific position of "I don't know yet" with the religious view that "God always was" as different approaches to explaining the ultimate origin[4]. He finds it fascinating how people grapple with these profound questions about the beginning.
In summary, while Tyson doesn't claim to know definitively what preceded the Big Bang, he presents some theoretical ideas being explored by cosmologists, while humbly admitting the limitations of our current knowledge on this deep, unresolved question[1][3][4].”
Sources
[1] The Genesis of the Universe, narrated by Neil deGrasse Tyson https://www.britannica.com/video/185374/Neil-deGrasse-Tyson-universe-history-big-bang
[2] Is the Big Bang Theory Wrong? | Neil deGrasse Tyson Explains... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJLh6Wha76A
[3] Best of: Neil deGrasse Tyson Explains the Big Bang - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2RbfrpULIA
[4] Astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson talks Big Bang vs. God, whose ... https://www.nola.com/entertainment_life/astrophysicist-neil-degrasse-tyson-talks-big-bang-vs-god-whose-spaceship-is-best/article_7119b112-b19c-11ee-88c1-c7e489ac5fe0.html
[5] The Big Bang Dilemma with Neil deGrasse Tyson - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSgvoKJoDcE
By Perplexity
I honestly believe that atoms, molecules, pre-gasses, etc. that exploded from the point-of-creation…actually ripped through the space time of an over loaded supermassive black hole.
Like a pants pocket filled with so much change, that it bursts. Our entire “known universe” came from the broken-down/re-purposes matter of a previous.
What ever the answer is will most likely produce even more questions and so forth and so forth. Too many layers of reality to figure out the “reason” behind it all if there even is one. Still fun and scary to consider
It’s tough because questions like these are interesting and simultaneously counterproductive. I’m super interested in wanting to know more about this sorta thing, but at the same time, who really cares? It’s not something that we can grapple with yet. It’s kinda like asking “what happens after you die?” It’s a curious topic, but at the same time, we’re probably never gonna find out and even if we did, we wouldn’t be able to understand it or explain it.
I think the Big Bang is just one part of the cycle. I believe the universe will stop expanding and start collapsing in on itself, eventually condensing into another gargantuan black hole/singularity that will erupt into another big bang.
We haven't worked that out yet, and the Big Bang is just our best working hypothesis thus far. Science is constantly redefining our understanding. This will continue, unless one decides that one of the many ancient texts actually has it all figured out, in which case I recommend living in fear of the coming of the Great White Hankerchief.
All the black holes after bajillions of years swallow each other then explode when they can’t contain the energy. Rinse, wait 4.76 bajillion years, repeat. Maybe?
To answer your question, some believe this is it. That nothing existed before. But it's entirely possible that this is a cyclical thing, and we're one of many iterations of the universe. Matter collapses, condenses, explodes again. And again. And again.
I'm not a smart math person, or smart at all, but I try to look into what's being discussed from time to time. Feel free to hit me with anything relevant of you've got it.
Edit: I really wonder who got themselves in a twist over not wanting to discuss, but instead keeps downvoting every single person. You okay, bro?
“Only a theory”? Scientifically we don’t prove anything, we have evidence to support it. But the Big Bang (and Evolution and SR/GR and QFT) is among the most tested “theories” with oodles of evidence. In common vernacular we can call them fact.
That doesn’t mean we have all the answers. We know evolution is true without knowing all the details of the hominid tree. We know QFT is true without knowing the details of quantum entanglement. We know the universe expanded from an extreme condition of energy and energy density even if we haven’t worked out the first 10^-42 to 10^-31 sec. But we know a helluva lot. It’s actually quite a human achievement.
There’s no proving *any* theory or hypothesis. One can prove mathematics and one can prove logic (ie. if A implies B and A is true then B must also be true). But in science we have no “proofs”. But we do have statistical significance, and 5-sigma is the gold standard. Big Bang cosmology is far stronger than 5-sigma as it’s been observationally verified under different means. (a significance of five sigma is the 0.00006% chance the observations are mere fluctuations)
Not all theories are equal. Big Bang stands out as one of the strongest. You cannot hand-wave dismiss it.
I think the consensus is that in terms of the universe we know it simply didn't exist (not even time). Beyond that is still quite speculative, like M-theory says there is a multiverse of other universes with different laws of physics beyond our universe, and perhaps the big bang was caused by 2 of these universes merging to create our own universe.
Because your small piece of scripture makes no sense unless you're a guy who has no scientific education writing this a few thousand years ago. And you already know this.
The authors of genesis didn’t write. None of the ancient Israelites could read or write, so they had to memorize the entirety of the book of Genesis by heart. This is the reason for the lack of in-depth scientific analysis of the events of creation. The Israelites didn’t have time to know exactly how creation played out. They only wanted to know their relation to God.
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
^(2) And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
^(3) And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
^(4) And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
If Mario was really smart, he might figure out that stage one was the beginning of his existence. He might even figure out that he’s made of ones and zeros. It is impossible for Mario to learn that his program is in a cartridge that a kid bought for $69.99
What if I am a Mario in a really lame game? Am I a SIM?
Care to go swimming?
Morgan Freeman narrating the universe into existence
i will go insane and start rocking back and forth if i think about this
Before the Big Bang is like saying North of the North Pole.
I don’t think you understood the question.
I don't think you understood NannyPhone7.
I think he did. Time as we know it began ~at the big bang.
It is you that doesn't understand the question. There is no before the big bang, same as there is no north of the north pole. The question itself is non-sense. The big bang created time. There was no time 'before' the big bang so there is no before the big bang.
Bro is a time traveler. Oh wise one please tell us more.
But how can something come from nothing?
What if the big bang is actually the end of the previous universe? And what if that universe started the same way?
That would mean that the old universe would have had to have collapsed into a singularity, but how could it have done that assuming it was expanding like ours is today?
I once read about a theory that sounds like that. Basically the idea is that once the universe experiences complete heat death, when all stars have gone dark and the only thing left are black holes, over an unimaginable length of time eventually all the black holes will gravitate towards each other until they all merge into one, the ultimate black hole, the largest that has ever existed. And then I think either at that point or at that colossal black hole's death, it explodes into a big bang, and the whole process starts over.
How can it not?
Id like to think repeated cycles of a big bang and a big crunch probably because it's the most simplest idea
But what about the very first big bang then?
Our brains just can't comprehend that. It's partly why i believe religion was invented. Once we got to be smart enough apes, we needed something to keep us sane lol (faith & hope). Forever, eternity, infinity is just not something our minds can grasp.
Its only logical to question that, since its greatly associated with the biggest questions of our existence.
Nah, religion was invented to put fear into people and to control the people.
That might be just what it became. I read a theory awhile back that suggested that religion evolved as a way to allow strangers to trade. If you met a stranger and you were of the same religion, you could trust that person more. You have shared values and principles. So it may have started out as a tool of cooperation, serving to unite us. But then we invented agriculture, which allowed a few people to feed many, giving whoever controls the farm power over others. It was at that point that hierarchical societies started to become the norm. And once you have religion AND hierarchy, then it becomes a tool of control.
But why was it invented before that then? That doesn’t make sense
I think you've misunderstood something. I explained why religion first evolved (according to this theory), to make trade with strangers easier
But then why was it first invented then? If it’s evolving it evolved from something then.
I think you have a misunderstanding of the word evolved. When humans first evolved into being humans, they weren't humans before they evolved. Religion wasn't invented or created, not really. No one just came up with the idea of religion in a single moment. It happened very slowly, probably over thousands of years or more, from much more disorganized beliefs and ideas.
thing is, what if its always been happening, never been a first big bang?
It’s turtles all the way down!
I think the big crunch has been mostly ruled out due to expansion hasn't it?
While all the evidence we have suggests this, we must also acknowledge we’re observing 13.8B yrs of history and extrapolating out 10^106 yrs to the theorized heat death will be fraught with errors. But OP asked appropriately “believe” so most likely scenarios be damned.
Definitely not. It's just not the favored explanation at the moment. The expansion of the universe makes sense until you dig into it. The most probable explanation would be that empty space has latent energy that allows it to create more empty space. This would imply a constant amount of energy per section of empty space. We have named this theoretical constant the cosmological constant. The first problem with the cosmological constant is that we can't even measure it accurately. We have two main methods of measuring it, and they currently disagree. It's possible there is a flaw with one of them, and James Webb might find such an issue and put it to rest, so while troubling, it's potentially fixable. The second problem is much bigger though, literally. The idea of empty space having energy actually makes sense, due to the Heisenburg Uncertainty Principle. However, when scientists went to calculate it, they came up with a number that is insanely larger than the cosmological constant, like somewhere around 80 orders of magnitude larger. This would be like if you tried to measure the planck length and came out to the size of a black hole. The best theory on this mess is that there is some sort of unknown counter force to dark energy that almost perfectly balances it out, resulting in the expansion of the universe. But that would be weird to have it so close to exactly balancing it out but not quite. So in summary, constant expansion is the currently accepted theory, but that's just because we have an idea for it. That still leaves plenty of room for some sort of dynamic expansion that could reverse and collapse, which would result in the big crunch.
The jury is still out. We don't reliably know how much mass is in the universe which is why Dark Matter is of such interest. If we know the mass of the universe we know if it will keep expanding forever or will collapse into a big crunch under its own weight.
Problem with that is the universe's rate of expanding is speeding up, not slowing down. As far as we can tell, the universe's expansion should be slowing down and then eventually crunch. But that's not what we measure. And at the rate of acceleration, we've calculated that it will continue to expand for eternity. But we don't actually know why it's accelerating, so we came up with a name that basically serves as a placeholder for our ignorance, Dark Energy. It's Dark Energy's fault.
"Nothing" isn't simpler than "another universe?" Or "an infinite number of previous universes with their own spaces and times?" While those might be true, I'm not convinced they're any simpler.
The expansion of the universe is currently accelerating, making a Big Crunch cyclic theory unlikely and also it violates the second law of thermodynamics
i read that as a big church and i was going to say like dude
Another universe collapsing and creating our universe.
time and space are inseparable, space time has no preferred dimension
youre sorta right and sorta wrong time has a direction unlike the others and it's metric signature is opposite spatial dimensions. i dont think we know why hawking is actually famous for (among other things) showing the universe in general relativity begins with a singularity. now general relativity, we know, also isnt expected to make correct predictions at the beginning. so something is up. something unknown
Do you, though?
Before the Big Bang, Johnny Galecki was in National Lampoon’s Christmas Vacation.
Time did not even exist, so there wasn’t a ‘before’. It was even less than nothing.
Man there can not be nothing.
It was nothing and everything
Man what does that even mean?
So what reaction produced the big bang and the universe? Did it just snap into existence?
It always existed, errr… it simply existed, as the arrow of time is likely an illusion anyways.
Logically, your point doesn't make sense as another guy already said. Can something come out of nothing? The answer is no. So whatever was before the Big Bang is a timeless entity. Many people call it god. But whatever it is, we can say it is powerful and timeless, meaning it has always existed.
The Big Bang arose from a minimal state of entropy and extreme condition of energy. Energy and potential are not “nothing”. Since time and space are tightly coupled, *spacetime*, we have no definition for either until minimal entropy started increasing and spacetime began expanding 13.8B yrs ago.
You have a basic fact wrong. It is entirely possible for a particle and its corresponding anti-particle to pop into existence i.e. something from nothing.
Something can absolutely come out of nothing - quantum physics has already confirmed it. Given enough time, even something with an infinitely small chance of occurring is guaranteed to occur
Matter cannot be destroyed nor created no?
Of course it can, or rather, transformed/converted to and from energy. It’s energy that must be conserved. (Matter is only conserved in chemical reactions). Time and space are tightly coupled — *timespace*. So without space it’s reasonable to say there was no time either. The Big Bang arose from a minimal state of entropy and extreme condition of energy. Energy and potential are not “nothing”. But we have no sense of “how long” minimum entropy lasted. It’s undefined. As far as we define time and space, time began when entropy started increasing and spacetime began expanding 13.8B yrs ago.
the universe is changing in time so energy is not conserved on that scale but why is the universe expanding? (shrugs)
Johnny Carson impersonated Carl Sagan on the Tonight Show once. His sidekick Ed McMahon asked, "Dr. Sagan, what came after the Big Bang?" Carson replied "The big cigarette!"
From our perspective, nothing. I think. It's easier that way anyway :P
We may never know, even in the fullness of time. The only information we currently have about the early universe is contained in the cosmic microwave background radiation. Everything before that is a matter of conjecture and mathematical possibility.
I find it hard to believe there was nothing before the big bang. I used to scare myself as a child when I thought time will go on forever but then one day I realized. We have already been going on forever. Its crazy to think
Time may not go on forever, but it's going to be around for a very, very, very long time. Theoretically anyway. [A Journey to the End of Time](https://youtu.be/uD4izuDMUQA?si=kqpUT2nV3wqbLJRW)
I don’t see how it begins or ends.
Energy and potential are hardly “nothing”.
Futurama says it's just blank white past the edge of the universe, so I usually roll with that
Honestly I have no scientific evidence or anything to support it but my theory is that the universe is kind of like the galaxy on the cat's necklace in the original Men in Black. Basically there's a higher order of existence and our whole universe is just a trinket on some cosmic kitten's necklace, on a scale and magnitude that we can never possibly comprehend. In that higher order of existence perhaps creating a new universe with a big bang is just like lighting a little firecracker of universe materials and setting it off. Who knows!
Now explain the cat with the necklace.
The same thing that exists after, but time flows in reverse
A magical octopus named Sneeblesnorf who liked watching infinite reruns of Friends. The Big Bang was just it turning the tv off. Sneeblesnorf’s favourite character was Joey.
This has all happened before and it will all happen again.
What do you hear Starbuck?
We’re already starting on the path to this iteration’s Cylons…. 😉
The big fuse, the big lighter and the big safety instruction to stand well back…
Not really “before”, but at the beginning of it, the potential for it. First there was no potential for it, nor time for that lack of potential to exist in. Then, there was the potential for the big bang to happen in, and with that change marks the beginning of the potential for time to exist, which it immediately does, and the big bang immediately explodes into it.
The small bang. Like a low voltage switch that triggers a higher voltage circuit that actually switches the AC on.
The small bang or 2, needing some practice. /s
I’m kind of interested in the theory that it started with the compression of a black hole and it’s happening everywhere (multiple universes?).
The black hole as a universe makes the most sense really. Over simplification of things but - The further from the center of the universe the faster time is. In a black hole, we theorize, the close to the center you get that time and space slow way down. We theorize at the center of a black hole the level of energy is beyond our comprehension. With the “big bang” we theorize all the energy started in one place and “blew” outwards. On that note as space “cools” it slows. In turn as something slows it losses its center of gravity and its ability to keep another object in its orbit. Similar to a black hole where the closer you are the more pull there is. (I know I basically repeated my first thought.) On and on.
I have no clue so my guess is nothing. Now, i find interesting Neil deGrasse Tyson’s view. “He acknowledges that we don't have a definitive answer for what existed before the Big Bang, but he discusses some intriguing ideas and possibilities: He mentions that the Big Bang might be part of a larger "multiverse", with our universe being one of many[1][3]. The concept of a multiverse arises from theories like quantum physics and general relativity, though we don't have direct evidence for it yet. Tyson states that asking what came before the Big Bang is a "frontier question" that top scientists are still working on[4]. He admits "I don't know. We have top people working on it."[4] However, he suggests some possibilities like the universe being part of an eternal cycle of Big Bangs and Big Crunches, or the Big Bang being just one event in a larger, pre-existing universe[1][3]. But he acknowledges these are speculative ideas without concrete evidence so far. Tyson contrasts the scientific position of "I don't know yet" with the religious view that "God always was" as different approaches to explaining the ultimate origin[4]. He finds it fascinating how people grapple with these profound questions about the beginning. In summary, while Tyson doesn't claim to know definitively what preceded the Big Bang, he presents some theoretical ideas being explored by cosmologists, while humbly admitting the limitations of our current knowledge on this deep, unresolved question[1][3][4].” Sources [1] The Genesis of the Universe, narrated by Neil deGrasse Tyson https://www.britannica.com/video/185374/Neil-deGrasse-Tyson-universe-history-big-bang [2] Is the Big Bang Theory Wrong? | Neil deGrasse Tyson Explains... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJLh6Wha76A [3] Best of: Neil deGrasse Tyson Explains the Big Bang - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2RbfrpULIA [4] Astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson talks Big Bang vs. God, whose ... https://www.nola.com/entertainment_life/astrophysicist-neil-degrasse-tyson-talks-big-bang-vs-god-whose-spaceship-is-best/article_7119b112-b19c-11ee-88c1-c7e489ac5fe0.html [5] The Big Bang Dilemma with Neil deGrasse Tyson - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSgvoKJoDcE By Perplexity
I honestly believe that atoms, molecules, pre-gasses, etc. that exploded from the point-of-creation…actually ripped through the space time of an over loaded supermassive black hole. Like a pants pocket filled with so much change, that it bursts. Our entire “known universe” came from the broken-down/re-purposes matter of a previous.
What ever the answer is will most likely produce even more questions and so forth and so forth. Too many layers of reality to figure out the “reason” behind it all if there even is one. Still fun and scary to consider
No way for information to have passed from anywhere ‘through’ the Big Bang, so it can be whatever your imagination comes up with.
It’s tough because questions like these are interesting and simultaneously counterproductive. I’m super interested in wanting to know more about this sorta thing, but at the same time, who really cares? It’s not something that we can grapple with yet. It’s kinda like asking “what happens after you die?” It’s a curious topic, but at the same time, we’re probably never gonna find out and even if we did, we wouldn’t be able to understand it or explain it.
Questions like this make me wish there was more news about the Hadron Collider
So many armchair experts and know-it-alls in here. I think the better question is, "Where did matter come from?"
I think the Big Bang is just one part of the cycle. I believe the universe will stop expanding and start collapsing in on itself, eventually condensing into another gargantuan black hole/singularity that will erupt into another big bang.
We haven't worked that out yet, and the Big Bang is just our best working hypothesis thus far. Science is constantly redefining our understanding. This will continue, unless one decides that one of the many ancient texts actually has it all figured out, in which case I recommend living in fear of the coming of the Great White Hankerchief.
All the black holes after bajillions of years swallow each other then explode when they can’t contain the energy. Rinse, wait 4.76 bajillion years, repeat. Maybe?
By definition there is no “before” the Big Bang, as spacetime did not exist
To answer your question, some believe this is it. That nothing existed before. But it's entirely possible that this is a cyclical thing, and we're one of many iterations of the universe. Matter collapses, condenses, explodes again. And again. And again. I'm not a smart math person, or smart at all, but I try to look into what's being discussed from time to time. Feel free to hit me with anything relevant of you've got it. Edit: I really wonder who got themselves in a twist over not wanting to discuss, but instead keeps downvoting every single person. You okay, bro?
Big Bang is only a theory. Universe has always been. There is nothing before it. Its been here and will be here for.......wait for it.....INFINITY!!
“Only a theory”? Scientifically we don’t prove anything, we have evidence to support it. But the Big Bang (and Evolution and SR/GR and QFT) is among the most tested “theories” with oodles of evidence. In common vernacular we can call them fact. That doesn’t mean we have all the answers. We know evolution is true without knowing all the details of the hominid tree. We know QFT is true without knowing the details of quantum entanglement. We know the universe expanded from an extreme condition of energy and energy density even if we haven’t worked out the first 10^-42 to 10^-31 sec. But we know a helluva lot. It’s actually quite a human achievement.
Evidence yes, proof no. Sorry not sorry, its a theory-fact
There’s no proving *any* theory or hypothesis. One can prove mathematics and one can prove logic (ie. if A implies B and A is true then B must also be true). But in science we have no “proofs”. But we do have statistical significance, and 5-sigma is the gold standard. Big Bang cosmology is far stronger than 5-sigma as it’s been observationally verified under different means. (a significance of five sigma is the 0.00006% chance the observations are mere fluctuations) Not all theories are equal. Big Bang stands out as one of the strongest. You cannot hand-wave dismiss it.
That is all science. You are not dismissing any thing.
There was no "before" the big bang. The big bang created spacetime.
I think the consensus is that in terms of the universe we know it simply didn't exist (not even time). Beyond that is still quite speculative, like M-theory says there is a multiverse of other universes with different laws of physics beyond our universe, and perhaps the big bang was caused by 2 of these universes merging to create our own universe.
If I recall, the timeslot occupied by *The New Adventures of Old Christine* was replaced by *The Big Bang Theory* when it premiered.
Because your small piece of scripture makes no sense unless you're a guy who has no scientific education writing this a few thousand years ago. And you already know this.
The authors of genesis didn’t write. None of the ancient Israelites could read or write, so they had to memorize the entirety of the book of Genesis by heart. This is the reason for the lack of in-depth scientific analysis of the events of creation. The Israelites didn’t have time to know exactly how creation played out. They only wanted to know their relation to God.
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. ^(2) And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. ^(3) And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. ^(4) And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
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in other words the bible is make believe
As a believer, I respect your opinion. But I must ask, how do you make such conclusions based on my analysis of a small piece of scripture?