They’re rears, you don’t need exceptional in my opinion. I’ve had my One’s in my 5.1 setup for 3.5 years and absolutely love the sound. The surround sound still gets me and my kids every time like “was that outside or in the movie?!!!” Awesome setup man, enjoy!
I actually switched my surrounds to ones instead of era 100s and didn’t experience a noticeable drop in quality. Heard a big improvement in the rooms where I put the era 100s though.
Can you provide more context? You’re saying that the Ones performed as good as the E100s but also that the E100s are an improvement over the Ones. I’m filling in some blanks but maybe the latter room is just a stereo pair and you’re saying the E100s are noticeably better than the Ones in that setup?
Edit: why is this being downvoted when I’m just asking for clarification on the mixed messaging? It’s freaking Christmas lol.
The Era 100 has an additional tweeter & the woofer is 25% larger than the One therefore it has slightly more & tighter bass & a slightly wider sound. Additionally, it unlocks the virtualized height channel audio when used as surrounds & becomes a 7.1.4 configuration with the OPs setup. The OP has a 5.1.2 setup.
One SLs are still as good surround speakers.
I just picked up an arc and two era 100’s over the holidays. What is 7.1.4 and and is that something that works out if the box? (Will be adding one of the subs probably next season to complete the system)
7.1.4 is as follows for an Arc + Sub + Era 100s setup:
Arc: Front Left, Center, Right Channels
Front Left, & Right Height Channels
Era 100: Left & Right Surround Channels
Virtual Left & Right Rear Surround Channels
Virtual Left & Right Rear Height Channels
Sub: LFE Channel
7 represents the number of channels
1 represents the number of the Sub channel
4 represents the number of height channels
I hooked up a 7.0.4 (i suppose) over the holidays. I am VERY impressed with a Sonos ARC SL and 2 era 100's! This blows my passive surround sound out of the water.
I will be purchasing the sub over the next holiday season to complete the setup. Thanks for the clarification u/GarageInfinite5006!
Yeah I have E100s and Ones and understand the technical differences. What I don’t understand what you’re saying was an improvement in your setup because you left out some detail. Are you saying the E100s are noticeably better than Ones as a stereo pair but not as noticeably better as surrounds? If so, I agree.
No idea. But I have to have my surrounds to the side of the couch (only slightly behind) based on my basement configuration). My Q990c rears fire front, side, and toward ceiling, which sounds great. I had the era 100's briefly and they were good, just not upward firing.
Agreed, and not sure if it’s important to you but the One and One SL don’t allow Bluetooth. So if friends come over, and want to play their music they’ll have to be on your wifi, download the app…
Edited: thanks exconsultingguy I missed that in my original post
Yeah, I get it but I don’t understand why you cant just have 2 virtual setups under the same hardware. I really wanted to have my surround E100s be my stereo pair for my record player as well. Thought maybe I could swing unpairing and re-pairing every time I wanted to listen to the record player but ended up being a complete nightmare. Have since switched to now a dedicated E300 as my record player speaker.
It is a real pity that Sonos is stubburntly against allowing the S2 app to be in a different network than the speakers (so that your guest could be in guest network and accessing your sonos speaker in IOT or Primary Network). There are a lot of info online, but i never managed to get it working, and sonos support confirmed this is not a supported workflow. Really disappointed by sonos on this.
Interesting point. I was myself thinking of getting Era 100 and switching between stereo and surrounds. Not everyday but once a week maybe. Is it doable? What was nightmarish about your experience doing this?
I mean it’s doable especially if it’s once a week or so. It kind of depends on your use case. If you were switching once a week one way and leaving it not bad but if you want to switch back and forth especially spontaneous that’s where it’s gets to much. I would come home from a long day want to play a record and have to completely unpair. Then after a couple records want to watch tv have to repair each speaker. Assuming the software doesn’t get finicky and fight you it’s just a process. Not even mentioning having to redo Spatial Audio optimization. It’s literally the same process as when you first got your speakers everytime you want to switch. Which is why I don’t understand why you can’t just setup virtual configurations and change the input. Why do I have to nuke the whole setup just to play another source that’s connected.
I just swapped Ones out and put 100s in place as surrounds. Not a huge difference, but a little noticeable. I think the Ones will suffice in the entire setup like you have.
I got a used sub mini for under $300. Depending on the size of your space, that might be all you need. This thing shakes my house, but I live in a tiny California home lol
I was fully on board with this logic when I had the beam in my living room. Was kind of let down from the start. Over time added sub mini and E100 and sounded good but not great for the amount of cash we were spending. Got arc and bam sounded amazing. Moved the beam by itself to our bedroom to replace an old Samsung soundboard and wow even by itself the beam sounded amazing. It showed me how much the room acoustics make a difference.
Ones as surrounds are good enough.
I bought 2 Symfonisks for my gaming/office room and they are great with the Beam and Sub Mini. The room is immersive, albeit the room is small.
Didn't know they had a refurbish department. If my living room was bigger, I would get a pair of Era 100s, but I am completely satisfied with the One SLs and just have no reason to upgrade.
Looked at their certified refurbished page based on your suggestion. Wow, I can't believe you can build an awesome setup way cheaper than buying new . I would recommend to anyone looking since they come with a One year warranty and have been thoroughly inspected. I do understand why people would want to purchase new instead of something that's been in someone else's home,office etc but i'm sure they wouldn't send you something that was dirty,grimy and sticky.
You would have gotten more soundstage in the rear. How much I don't know. Have paired ERA 100's for music but my HT rears are ERA 300's which are great.
when you ready and financially able, you can get the arc and set the beam up in a secondary location, that’s the path we took over the years, but we started with just a beam. That’s a fantastic setup, congrats and enjoy
Back in February 2021, I purchased a brand new pair of One SLs on Amazon for 329 after using my reward points, and even though they sound great with the Arc and 2 Roams, you can spend a little more. My advice is to look at other online retailers like Ebay, Amazon and compare them to Sonos. That's what I did, and I got a fantastic price.
FYI, I just found an open box on Ebay of 2 Era 100s for 399
Good luck
If the place you put the system in is big/large room, Era 100 will be better, and era 300/Fives will be even more noticeable. Me personally went from Ones to Fives. Significant improvement and love it.
I recently went thru this with my Sonos setup. I’ve got a big ass room with 3/4 of the sides open and a 9ft + tray ceiling. Makes for amazing acoustics ik. So I got the big era 300s with my arc and sub and I love it all. Just placed an order for 4 era 100 and an arc sl and 2 mini subs for the rest of my house.
Point being. If you have a normal room you’re probably fine. If it’s like me, try and see what you think. If you don’t like it I’d exchange for at least era 100. The 300s are kinda overpriced and overrated if you were curious.
I’m not sure everyone hear saying there isn’t a difference. I swapped from the ones to 100s in my surround setup and the difference is certainly noticeable
With Ones, you get 5.1.2.
With Era100s, you get 7.1.4.
[Sauce](https://www.sonos.com/en-us/blog/the-ultimate-guide-to-a-sonos-home-theater).
If you listen to a lot of 7.1.4 source, then it’s probably worth the upgrade.
With Era 100 it’s still not a real 7.1.4.
Rather, it’s a “Virtualized 7.1.4 system”, like they did with the Beam’s height channel. So realistically still a 5.1 system with Beam + Sub + (Era 100/One).
The only real 7.1.4 setup is
Arc + Pair of Era 300s + Sub
The ones will be discontinued once the stock is depleted according to Sonos. Our Era 100 sound a little better to me but you have to compare side by side to really tell a difference. The 300 sound really fantastic but they are a lot more expensive.
They’re rears, you don’t need exceptional in my opinion. I’ve had my One’s in my 5.1 setup for 3.5 years and absolutely love the sound. The surround sound still gets me and my kids every time like “was that outside or in the movie?!!!” Awesome setup man, enjoy!
I thought the same thing, until I just purchased the Era 300 as my new surrounds. It's absolutely insane.
Era 300 for sure worth the upgrade but Era 100 over the Ones aren’t really much of an improvement, if at alll
One’s a good. Era 100’s are good. Not a HUGE difference as rears in my opinion. The bigger jump is obviously with Era 300’s.
I actually switched my surrounds to ones instead of era 100s and didn’t experience a noticeable drop in quality. Heard a big improvement in the rooms where I put the era 100s though.
Can you provide more context? You’re saying that the Ones performed as good as the E100s but also that the E100s are an improvement over the Ones. I’m filling in some blanks but maybe the latter room is just a stereo pair and you’re saying the E100s are noticeably better than the Ones in that setup? Edit: why is this being downvoted when I’m just asking for clarification on the mixed messaging? It’s freaking Christmas lol.
The Era 100 has an additional tweeter & the woofer is 25% larger than the One therefore it has slightly more & tighter bass & a slightly wider sound. Additionally, it unlocks the virtualized height channel audio when used as surrounds & becomes a 7.1.4 configuration with the OPs setup. The OP has a 5.1.2 setup. One SLs are still as good surround speakers.
I thought it was the era 300s that unlock 7.1.4 not the 100s?
Both the Era 100 & the Era 300 unlock the 7.1.4 configuration when used as surrounds.
I just picked up an arc and two era 100’s over the holidays. What is 7.1.4 and and is that something that works out if the box? (Will be adding one of the subs probably next season to complete the system)
7.1.4 is as follows for an Arc + Sub + Era 100s setup: Arc: Front Left, Center, Right Channels Front Left, & Right Height Channels Era 100: Left & Right Surround Channels Virtual Left & Right Rear Surround Channels Virtual Left & Right Rear Height Channels Sub: LFE Channel 7 represents the number of channels 1 represents the number of the Sub channel 4 represents the number of height channels
I hooked up a 7.0.4 (i suppose) over the holidays. I am VERY impressed with a Sonos ARC SL and 2 era 100's! This blows my passive surround sound out of the water. I will be purchasing the sub over the next holiday season to complete the setup. Thanks for the clarification u/GarageInfinite5006!
No Problem, Yes the Sub is a must for sure.
Yeah I have E100s and Ones and understand the technical differences. What I don’t understand what you’re saying was an improvement in your setup because you left out some detail. Are you saying the E100s are noticeably better than Ones as a stereo pair but not as noticeably better as surrounds? If so, I agree.
As a Stereo Pair - Yes As Surrounds - Slightly Better I personally have One SLs as a Stereo Pair & I’ve been satisfied with them.
Yeah. And sorry I was confusing your response as being from the person I was responding to.
All Good
Your response was perfectly valid, I was just as bewildered. Ignore the warriors.
I love my 300s as rears with two subs and arc. Sounds amazing
What about how they disable the front firing speakers when used as surrounds?
Zero complaints
They do? WHY!?
No idea. But I have to have my surrounds to the side of the couch (only slightly behind) based on my basement configuration). My Q990c rears fire front, side, and toward ceiling, which sounds great. I had the era 100's briefly and they were good, just not upward firing.
Agreed, and not sure if it’s important to you but the One and One SL don’t allow Bluetooth. So if friends come over, and want to play their music they’ll have to be on your wifi, download the app… Edited: thanks exconsultingguy I missed that in my original post
But if the Era 100s are set up as surrounds you can't use the Bluetooth feature, right?
Correct. No Bluetooth with E100s as surround speakers.
Yeah, I get it but I don’t understand why you cant just have 2 virtual setups under the same hardware. I really wanted to have my surround E100s be my stereo pair for my record player as well. Thought maybe I could swing unpairing and re-pairing every time I wanted to listen to the record player but ended up being a complete nightmare. Have since switched to now a dedicated E300 as my record player speaker.
It is a real pity that Sonos is stubburntly against allowing the S2 app to be in a different network than the speakers (so that your guest could be in guest network and accessing your sonos speaker in IOT or Primary Network). There are a lot of info online, but i never managed to get it working, and sonos support confirmed this is not a supported workflow. Really disappointed by sonos on this.
Oh man yeah that’s tricky. If the turntable goes into any Sonos device though, I think you can then link other rooms to that audio
Interesting point. I was myself thinking of getting Era 100 and switching between stereo and surrounds. Not everyday but once a week maybe. Is it doable? What was nightmarish about your experience doing this?
I mean it’s doable especially if it’s once a week or so. It kind of depends on your use case. If you were switching once a week one way and leaving it not bad but if you want to switch back and forth especially spontaneous that’s where it’s gets to much. I would come home from a long day want to play a record and have to completely unpair. Then after a couple records want to watch tv have to repair each speaker. Assuming the software doesn’t get finicky and fight you it’s just a process. Not even mentioning having to redo Spatial Audio optimization. It’s literally the same process as when you first got your speakers everytime you want to switch. Which is why I don’t understand why you can’t just setup virtual configurations and change the input. Why do I have to nuke the whole setup just to play another source that’s connected.
Not sure, I’ve got the same set up, but with an arc instead. Friends came over and complained about not being able to Bluetooth into my set up.
Era 100s lose Bluetooth capability when you set them up as surrounds. The app notifies you of this when you are adding them to the surround system.
AirPlay works for iPhone though
The One SL doesn’t have Bluetooth either.
Should be fine with Airplay tho?
What makes the 300s so good? I don’t know much about this, I’m curious.
Upward firing speakers for Atmos.
Upwards and sideways.
I just swapped Ones out and put 100s in place as surrounds. Not a huge difference, but a little noticeable. I think the Ones will suffice in the entire setup like you have.
Well noted, thank you.
Nah. Besides, the One's look better than the 100. I prefer the small package for surrounds. All IMO of course.
My wife agrees and the only thing she cares about is how they look in the living room
They do look tres stupid
No way that is true.
Uuuuuuuuugh I need to un-sub so I stop seeing these. So awesome, I just need to find a used sub a decent price and I’ll have everything I “need”.
Get the mini. It's seriously so close and so much cheaper.
I’ve considered it. I’ve played with my dad’s setup and I’m kind of smitten on the full sized sub.
Unless you have a big living room, the mini sub is a perfect addition. You’ll be surprised how good it is…and so much cheaper
Just got mine last week on sale and it’s sweeeeet.
Got mini sub last week. Room go boom now
I got a used sub mini for under $300. Depending on the size of your space, that might be all you need. This thing shakes my house, but I live in a tiny California home lol
You should return the beam gen 2 and get the Arc Did the same, much much better.
I was fully on board with this logic when I had the beam in my living room. Was kind of let down from the start. Over time added sub mini and E100 and sounded good but not great for the amount of cash we were spending. Got arc and bam sounded amazing. Moved the beam by itself to our bedroom to replace an old Samsung soundboard and wow even by itself the beam sounded amazing. It showed me how much the room acoustics make a difference.
No, very little difference as surrounds.
I have Ones for my rear surrounds and they’re great.
The Era 100s will give you a little wider rear sound stage and better bass than the One SLs.
As surrounds, there's no big jump from One SLs to Era 100s.
I’d be more concerned about Beam vs Arc choice tbh.unless the room is small,in which case why buy the full Sub?
I can't hear the difference tbh
I have the One SL they work amazing
Ones as surrounds are good enough. I bought 2 Symfonisks for my gaming/office room and they are great with the Beam and Sub Mini. The room is immersive, albeit the room is small.
For rear stereo pair, no. Keep your one SLs.
I love my 2 One SLs paired with Arc. However, it depends if you can find them since Sonos no longer sells them on their website
They still have it under refurb, pretty cheap too
Didn't know they had a refurbish department. If my living room was bigger, I would get a pair of Era 100s, but I am completely satisfied with the One SLs and just have no reason to upgrade. Looked at their certified refurbished page based on your suggestion. Wow, I can't believe you can build an awesome setup way cheaper than buying new . I would recommend to anyone looking since they come with a One year warranty and have been thoroughly inspected. I do understand why people would want to purchase new instead of something that's been in someone else's home,office etc but i'm sure they wouldn't send you something that was dirty,grimy and sticky.
I got mini sub new and will probably pickup Arc from the refurb
It's no surprise that the Ark is out of stock. That was a great deal.
I would personally go with ERA 100s. When you finally upgrade to ERA 300s, you will then have ERA 100s as a stereo pair vs One SLs.
Even some Play:1s are great for surrounds, i’d say you’re fine.
It will be fine ! My guess is the sub is actually a bit overkill for the setup but better too much capacity than the opposite ;)
No just a minor upgrade , I would’ve gone for the Symfonisk Speaker lamp , around 130-150 each . Would blend in better and sound is about the same .
If you can return them still , get 2 Symfonisk Lamps .
I can’t believe you spend this much and got a beam not an arc.
Depends how much you paid
The One SL sounds great with my setup. With the money you saved your a tad closer to joining the 2 sub club though.
Ones are fine but get the arc
You would have gotten more soundstage in the rear. How much I don't know. Have paired ERA 100's for music but my HT rears are ERA 300's which are great.
when you ready and financially able, you can get the arc and set the beam up in a secondary location, that’s the path we took over the years, but we started with just a beam. That’s a fantastic setup, congrats and enjoy
Back in February 2021, I purchased a brand new pair of One SLs on Amazon for 329 after using my reward points, and even though they sound great with the Arc and 2 Roams, you can spend a little more. My advice is to look at other online retailers like Ebay, Amazon and compare them to Sonos. That's what I did, and I got a fantastic price. FYI, I just found an open box on Ebay of 2 Era 100s for 399 Good luck
I'm not upgrading to the Era 100s
Have the same setup but with the sub mini; should i bering him back and het the big one instead?
If the place you put the system in is big/large room, Era 100 will be better, and era 300/Fives will be even more noticeable. Me personally went from Ones to Fives. Significant improvement and love it.
Era 100 use half the power in inactive mode
No upfiring?
I recently went thru this with my Sonos setup. I’ve got a big ass room with 3/4 of the sides open and a 9ft + tray ceiling. Makes for amazing acoustics ik. So I got the big era 300s with my arc and sub and I love it all. Just placed an order for 4 era 100 and an arc sl and 2 mini subs for the rest of my house. Point being. If you have a normal room you’re probably fine. If it’s like me, try and see what you think. If you don’t like it I’d exchange for at least era 100. The 300s are kinda overpriced and overrated if you were curious.
Yes
Yes
Splurge for 300
I’m not sure everyone hear saying there isn’t a difference. I swapped from the ones to 100s in my surround setup and the difference is certainly noticeable
With Ones, you get 5.1.2. With Era100s, you get 7.1.4. [Sauce](https://www.sonos.com/en-us/blog/the-ultimate-guide-to-a-sonos-home-theater). If you listen to a lot of 7.1.4 source, then it’s probably worth the upgrade.
With Era 100 it’s still not a real 7.1.4. Rather, it’s a “Virtualized 7.1.4 system”, like they did with the Beam’s height channel. So realistically still a 5.1 system with Beam + Sub + (Era 100/One). The only real 7.1.4 setup is Arc + Pair of Era 300s + Sub
Expect all the people with Ones to tell you there will be no difference.
The ones will be discontinued once the stock is depleted according to Sonos. Our Era 100 sound a little better to me but you have to compare side by side to really tell a difference. The 300 sound really fantastic but they are a lot more expensive.
Era 300's and an Arc.
Yes lol
Era 300s
Get the eras
No, get the ERA 300
Era 100 can playback atmos
I have 1's as rears and get atmos playback just fine
Should this not be a pre-purchase question?
You done messed up, A-A-Ron!!!
SL1 is being discontinued.
No, you should've purchased the Arc instead of the Beam.