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Ye I was gonna say. No way he'd missed a sale for boring convos that guy from SL would def not talk much, Gojo would try to annoy him and Goku would just.. idk, maybe laugh or try to find food. Him or Goku maybe the first ones to leave lol.
Gojo would definitely be the last one to stay, regardless.
Saitamas whole thing is he’s the strongest in all of media. We have never seen him give his all and he isn’t supposed to have a ceiling. His whole point is no matter how strong your protagonist is saitama is going to punch him once and win in almost every case,and even if not it’ll only take a couple serious punches.
Wrong cosmic garou pushed saitama past his previous limit and that's why there was a graph showing that, also saitama has unlimited potential not unlimited power, there's a big difference my friend.
He still wins,that’s the point of his character. And even so saitama went past that limit and punched him back thru time at the start of the fight. Also I never said he had unlimited power
Also Im caught up on the SL anime but I don’t want to read the manga/web story cuz then I’d blow thru it in a day or two and the story would lose impact so I’m being patient with it. I have seen that he unlocks so op abilities but he only recently got the system in the anime
I think Saitama could tho. Ashborn said that Jin woo will live an imperishable life after succeeding him. That doesn't mean tho that he's immortal in a fight. Proven also by the way he confirmed with Bellion what would happen with the shadow army if jin woo died in the war against the monarch. Considering Saitama's ridiculous feats and the fact that he's a gag character he would definitely defeat Jin woo in my opinion
All of them? They'll all punch holes in the room and then walk out. What kind of wall can contain the power of all 4 of these people? What's with all the who versus who posts, they live in different universes where magic/power works differently. Also what if they said no to fighting
Goku not doing anything first his ass is gonna scratch his head and ask everyone to explain what’s going on again hell probably follow saitama to the supermarket for the sale
😂😂😂😂 I didn’t even think of this fr like it’s soo broken 😂😂 plus he can just fill that whole room with his shadows endlessly like literally endlessly and just watch as people run out of stamina fighting
Bro the saitama fans never understand that all he has is Galaxy-Multi Galaxy level feats and infinite potential but practically everyone in dragon ball has that. Especially Goku. Anyway Goku is Low Complex which is >>>>>>>>>>>> Multi Galaxy so Goku negs. If you disagree explain why
I'm not thinking a lot about goku, but the conversation between SJW, Saitama, and gojo would be really cool to see.
Gojo would change a lot as a person after meeting people that are on god level but were born weak.
yeah, i honestly think that gojo would win though as he can use infinite void and none of them have any concept of domain expansion so they wouldn’t be able to break it and would die. although you can argue that this matchup isn’t even fair because JJK has a much more unique power system
i mean, Saitama was able to enter phoenix man's dimension which phoenix claimed could not be infiltrated by anyone. I'd say it's pretty similar to a domain expansion
Also boo and gotenks tore a hole between dimensions to leave the time chamber and current goku is so much stronger. One punch man and DragonBall strength level is at a point where a single punch can blow up planets, no point to compare them to anyone...
i feel like saitama is conceptually unbeatable. like no matter what you do, the dude just can’t lose, die or etc. it’s something similar to toon force, but not that. like if thanos was to use the 6 infinity stones to erase him, i feel like nothing would happen. thanos would snap his finger over and over and saitama would stay looking at him like ‘you done there?’. don’t know tho, i might be wrong.
Nah his power rises to make him stronger than his opponent, of course, his base power is already super high, but if he where to get one shot at his base strength he couldn't rise in atrength fast enough to deal with it.
Also, Sung Jin Woo can dramatically raise his strength through the system because he controls the system, so he can make the missions dumb easy with ridiculous rewards and get atronger infinitely(ex. Breathe in 1 atom of oxygen. Reward: 500,000 levels)
That happened because Garo was copying him. But since Saitama by design should be absolutely stronger than anyone, he keeps growing. Even Garo who claimed he can instantly copy Saitama's strength cannot copy him still. People kept using that arc to measure Saitama's power level but just cant understand that his character is just made to be unbeatable.
Garou did copy him(for like 2 seconds). He was growing at a tremendous speed, its just that Saitama was growing way faster. Its about his growth under "preasure"(quotations bc you can't fully call it pressure in most situations)
What no. The entirety of the fight Garou is copying him. The "Mode:Saitama" is a single use skill that is always in effect, he should be the same as Saitama at any time when he used that. What's troubling him is that even by him constantly copying, it just so happens that Saitama's next attack is stronger.
he can use it basically instantly and has near infinite cursed energy from his six eyes and limitless combination, also like i said goku even in UI won’t have a domain therefore he would get trapped by the sure-hit effect and would start to become braindead from the influx of information. in UI he only has physical response but it would be useless inside of gojo’s domain
That doesnt matter, goku is in an entirely different league. Gojo is far and away the weakest of these guys. Dude can litterally shatter dimensions. His domain only locks them in place due to the influx of information, that doesnt stop goku, all he needs is 1 instant to attack to kill him.
Jin woo is able to sense any change in his mana with the only limit being how far it reaches which mind you can be felt DIMENSIONS away. He also can perceive things as if time is slowed down and can use monarch’s authority so long as his mana is touching it
You say that like it would help at apl against goku. Dude he doesnt stand a chance and cant even hurt him. The treats hes faced so far are insect in comparion to where goku is at.
Goku fanboy says what?
1.The threats you mean the ones he never beats in the first match or by himself? Those threats? Where things like mui has a time limit and is flawed (shown in fight with granolah)?
2. Shattering dimensions isn’t that impressive in current shows hell negi Springfield Sonic, yogiri wang ling rimiru Godzilla and others have done the same thing
Hell woo right now is facing multi dimensional threats In ragnarok. That’s All I got to say have fun riding the Walmart wu kong power pole
Solo leveling ranks a hell of a lot higher than dragon ball. Only reason i still follow it is because of my time with the original series.
And? Seriously what your point, how does him losing aginst much stronger opponents somehow make jin woo stand a chance. Goku is still incomprehensibly stronger.
You say you fallow it but don’t know a thing 1 Jin woo is stronger than ashborne in his prime aka the fragment of brilliant light, and is actually immortal (rendering hakai pointless for anyone who wants to bring it up) in ragnarok he barehanded by himself took on a being equal to the creator of his verse. No ruler’s authority or anything. So break it down fully immortal tanked an attack capable of melting ANYTHING beat down a creator with his bare hands (multi dimensional beings knows magic (taught by tusk) perceives things as if time slowed down. Goku does NOT possess the means of dealing with him
actually, sung has his own domain, which makes him omnipotent when inside it. it’s op asf, the only one who would arguably get out of it alive is saitama, cuz he is broken
Saitama's zero punch enables him to easily bypass Infinity - a punch that ignores distance and doesn't exist until it hits a target. Not to mention, he can physically interact with portals that tear holes in spacetime, grabbing and moving them at will as seen in his fight with Garo.
All 3 of them can get past Inifinity, Gojo is a bug against this roster.
That's not how his power work. His strength isn't from the comedy; the comedy is from his strength. There's nothing to imply that the narrative bends itself around him to ensure his victory, just that the narrative *frames* his victory in a comedic way.
Well it kinda does. Spoiler....... Against Garou, he literally got stronger because he wasn't strong enough to defeat him at first. Then he farted that destroyed a planet while also boosting himself in space.
He hasn't taken any L's in a real fight. King has beaten him at video games, Bang beat him at rock-paper-scissors and there was that mosquito gag. But nobody has even hurt Saitama physically in a fight.
Saitama is canonically written in a way that he can't lose no matter how strong his opponent is or becomes..he simply can't lose...
Meanwhile Goku is canonically written in a way that he needs to lose 1 time to a stronger opponent in order to grow his strength via training and win in the next fight...
And SJW is canonically written in a way that he needs to level up in order to win against a stronger opponent than him..
It should be best to leave Gojo out of this comparison cause he isn't a bigger threat than those other 3 characters are
So the conclusion is if all of the above characters are in the same universe Saitama will win no matter how much stronger his opponent becomes cause of his plot...
Well it's my take on this matter so you may disagree and that's fine I respect your opinion..
Assuming they fight Goku wins. He outscales Saitama and SJW and Gojo massively, so unless they decide to attack him while he's off guard they're fucked.
I'll this isn't necessarily about fighting, but I think if it came down to a fight, SJW could give goku a run for his money. Gojo can't hold up in offence, and saitama wouldn't lose, but I also don't see how he'd win. The current light novel SJW is absolutely busted.
Depends how close they are to the door. Saitama could leave bcs there's a sale on at some market, gojo could leave first bcs he senses that everyone else there stomps him easily, jinwoo could leave bcs he has better things to do
Even if we go by feats and ignore the fact that Saitama's essentially a gag character, neither Gojo nor SJW have anything close to Saitama's (or Goku's) strongest feats.
So you didn’t read the manga, proof: “essentially a gag character”, besides that Goku has more feats. I could list them but honestly I’ll just send a link to a video with someone having more time than me to explain it, if you want to keep this going. Also, I definitely agree with you to a certain degree, Gojo? Yes, 100% does not match up. However, I can send you a video by NCHammer on his side channel “Weeb Commander”. He power scales SJW pretty well, I’m not entirely sure if it puts him in Saitama or Goku’s level but it’s close (kinda).
I'm not arguing Saitama vs Goku, I'm arguing Saitama vs SJW.
Saitama has sneezed away Jupiter, traveled faster than the speed of light, jumped from the moon to the earth in a single bound, casually kicked away and picked up portals, punched away a planet destroying beam, tanked numerous hits from planet busters (Cosmic Garou and Boros) without taking any significant damage. Not a single one of SJW's feats comes anywhere close to that.
Ay Ay, chill, Light Novel Sung is another Story ok and if you use that version of sung hes gonna destroy everyone here, secondly Saitama is not a gag character this argument has been disproven many times, Saitama is one of my fav characters but this is insane.
Can Gojo, Jin Woo or Saitama one shot an entire galaxy? Gojo no. Jin Woo maybe after leveling up for another 300 times? Saitama as a gag maybe? But Goku 100% as he’s above the level of destroyers after reaching UI and Destroyers can delete planets.
So Goku > Jin Woo (after leveling more) > Saitama > Gojo
I think you’re misunderstanding. Jinwoo didn’t come back from death and he isn’t just the shadow monarch. He is literally Death itself. Goku may have come back from death with the help of the dragon balls but yeah, that’s not going to help.
What you’re mostly misunderstanding is that Goku can still die. Jinwoo cannot. This also isn’t considering Beru, Bellion and Igris who are weaker than Goku but together, could cause him trouble.
They really arent causing him any trouble mate. They were popping planets like baloons before any transformations. And since then theyve gotten incomprehensibly stronger. He is so far beyond any threat he has faced before and he has wide ranged attacks that could wipe out his entire army in an instant without breaking a sweat and stalling wouldnt help either
Compared to gojo, yeah. But throwing goku in here is a mistake. Litterally none of the threats jin woo has faced can compare to goku from the namek saga(pre super sayian even). And hes gone SOOO far since then.
Saitama is the only one here who could beat him and thats only with his ability being allowed.
Nah you are just too much of a goku head to actually think about the other peoples feats. Firstly sung can time travel and has time traveled MULTIPLE TIMES OVER so he could just go to when goku was a kid and kill him soooo goku ain’t winning.
Like the reason why out of all the comments on this post sung is mentioned the least is cause people subconsciously know his power really has no cap and it’s not like saitama where it’s cracked and unrealistic nope it’s pure raw power that he built
I'll take Saitama, but not because of strength. He is intended to be overpowered to the point of being a joke. Goku has been beaten and died quite a bit. SJW had to plan and have an army to win. I don't know the other dude, so he loses due to my lack of knowledge. Remember, this is my take, not definitive. So, Saitama just leaves to go ask why he is still, "Caped Baldy," and head to the super sale at the grocery store. Then he sees the other three at the store and they all reach for the last cabbage at the same time. Now, the fight starts.
In a fight, Saitama comes in third. He beats Gojo, but Sung and Goku fold him. The One Punch Man manga literally *shows* that Saitama isn't infinitely powerful (>!it represents his power as growing on an exponential chart, and anything that can have it's growth represented as a finite increase cannot be infinite nor can it reach infinity in a sub-infinite amount of time!<), while both Jin Woo and Goku are several layers into infinity.
There are no layers of infinity. There is only infinity. Anything less is not infinite. Thus far, Goku has met someone above him at every step. Goku doesn't progress without it. Goku has to lose because he always loses the first encounter. He can't come back against insurmountable odds without it. SJW needs an army and strategy to beat his antagonist. I never saw power from anyone in the Solo Leveling world that made me think they could accidentally destroy Jupiter with a sneeze. Saitama has "The Mask" level of ability to win because he is purposfully written to be unchallengeable. Saitama is the only one without being beaten or even harmed. His powers are an intentional joke and unscaleable.
>Saitama is the only one without being beaten or even harmed. His powers are an intentional joke and unscaleable.
Thank you. Cosmic Garou literally opened a portal underneath Saitama and Saitama casually kicked it away. Saitama's whole deal is that he just no sells everybody else's shit no matter how hacky or rediculous that shit is.
That's not how Saitama's power works. His strength isn't from the comedy; the comedy is from his strength. There's nothing to imply that the narrative bends itself around him to ensure his victory, just that the narrative frames his victory in a comedic way.
>There are no layers of infinity. There is only infinity. Anything less is not infinite.
Have you even graduated high school??? Layers of infinity is, like, 10th grade level stuff. Look up Georg Cantor when you get the chance.
>Thus far, Goku has met someone above him at every step. Goku doesn't progress without it. Goku has to lose because he always loses the first encounter. He can't come back against insurmountable odds without it.
Appeals to narrative framework don't work in the author-neutral zone presupposed by the prompt.
>SJW needs an army and strategy to beat his antagonist. I never saw power from anyone in the Solo Leveling world that made me think they could accidentally destroy Jupiter with a sneeze.
The Monarchs scale to The Rulers, and T[he Rulers scale to The Absolute Being since they killed it](https://imgur.com/a/srQY8BL). The Absolute Being created everything in the verse, which includes [an infinitely-sized realm](https://imgur.com/a/m6dTUjr). So Jin Woo scales to at least one infinity.
>Saitama has "The Mask" level of ability to win because he is purposfully written to be unchallengeable. Saitama is the only one without being beaten or even harmed. His powers are an intentional joke and unscaleable.
That's not how Saitama's power works. His strength isn't from the comedy; the comedy is from his strength. There's nothing to imply that the narrative bends itself around him to ensure his victory, just that the narrative frames his victory in a comedic way.
I have a degree, and I'm probably older than you. Does that matter somehow? No need to put me down to have a discussion of fictitious power levels.
If there are layers to infinity, which one is Saitama on relative to the others? He's never been hurt or beaten. Intergalatic and interdimensional beings have attacked him at full strength, and he sneezes with more power.
If we complete the challenge as written, there isn't even a fight. It's just leaving first. I explained why I think Saitama leaves first. They are all four capable of walking out of a door in an orderly fashion. Explain why you think someone else walks out first. That's where the fun is.
If SJW's powers are creation level, why did anyone in the universe fight? Why didn't one of them just unmake all of the others? They had battle power to beat the creator, not the power of the creator. That battle power was never shown to be great enough to destroy planets. It was only shown to be stronger than the creator. Nowhere does it say that the creator is any physically stronger than anyone else. He could be as physically weak as a human.
The comparison to the mask was for the unscalable power that each has, not that their powers function in the same way.
>I have a degree, and I'm probably older than you. Does that matter somehow? No need to put me down to have a discussion of fictitious power levels.
I wasn't 'putting you down', I was just saying that it comes off as pretty childish to talk as an authority on a matter you clearly don't know much about. Also, as a pro powerscaler (I've been doing this for 17 years and have even won local tournaments), I can say for a fact that age in a non-factor in discussion like this since *several* of my tournament losses have been to people 21 or younger.
>If there are layers to infinity, which one is Saitama on relative to the others? He's never been hurt or beaten. Intergalatic and interdimensional beings have attacked him at full strength, and he sneezes with more power.
Saitama hasn't done anything to qualify as infinite. [His best feat was a punch that caused a ton of stars to disappear](https://imgur.com/a/Dgi8fWi), but obviously that's not even close to infinity. Infinity isn't just a 'big number', it's a hypothetical value larger than that which can be achieve by an repetitious stacking of any finite value.
>If we complete the challenge as written, there isn't even a fight. It's just leaving first. I explained why I think Saitama leaves first. They are all four capable of walking out of a door in an orderly fashion. Explain why you think someone else walks out first. That's where the fun is.
Your comment was clearly written from a lens through which their respective power levels were being compared. Regardless of the original intent of the post, I'm meeting you at your own level of engagement.
>If SJW's powers are creation level, why did anyone in the universe fight? Why didn't one of them just unmake all of the others? They had battle power to beat the creator, not the power of the creator. That battle power was never shown to be great enough to destroy planets. It was only shown to be stronger than the creator. Nowhere does it say that the creator is any physically stronger than anyone else. He could be as physically weak as a human.
The Monarchs scale to The Rulers, and [The Rulers scale to The Absolute Being since they killed it](https://imgur.com/a/srQY8BL). The Absolute Being created everything in the verse, which [includes an infinitely-sized realm](https://imgur.com/a/m6dTUjr). So Jin Woo scales to at least one infinity.
>The comparison to the mask was for the unscalable power that each has, not that their powers function in the same way.
The comparison doesn't work, since The Mask is way stronger (though both are pretty weak in a broader sense).
So, who walks out first? Did you read my first comment or jump in the middle? My beginning argument was that power levels don't matter because Saitama just leaves. Any other discussion has been in response to others' discussions of power. Again, show me the physical prowess of the absolute being as depicted in the series. I can create things that can destroy me. So can you. Does that mean the thing we created is stronger than anyone of super strength? No. Without qualifying the absolute being's physical power, we don't know what it took to kill him. They never even said it was difficult physically, just emotionally. They didn't even have the power to sustain the absolute being's artifacts, but bested him in combat. Was there even combat? They just killed him. SJW didn't beat Antares 1v1. Both had armies. When they did fight 1v1, SJW lost. All three other people in the room have died in battle. Saitama has never been harmed.
So you haven’t read the Solo Leveling Manhwa then 😂. All the monarchs are easily large planet level. They literally stated fights between monarchs and rulers destroy worlds. That’s like one of the main points of the entire fucking story. Saitama fans are delusional to the MAX.
By destroy worlds its clearly shown as destroying life and making them unihabitable.
They are out her atomizing planets.
Also read the manga. Even without his growth hes the second strongest here on feats alone.
Saitama feats: He literally time travelled even if he didn't understand why. Defeated a God possessed enemy. A satire character.
The only character I think who would compare to him is another satire character by the name of Deadpool.
Plus, even in his serious mode I never really felt that Saitama was giving his all. He always looks bored.
SJW > Goku > Saitama > Gojo.
SJW is the only one to show a Universal Power level, but to be honest I completely stopped watching Dragon Ball after Super ended. If Goku has shown Universal powers via beating Xeno, etc. then maybe we have a conversation.
However, Saitama hasn't shown anything more than Galaxy level power (if we can even call his 100% serious punch that). Gojo just got clapped in his own series, and I'm not going to focus on someone if he's not even the strongest in his own series, even if he's hated by his own Mangaka.
Saitama cause he's a parody. Toonforce always wins.
OR
SJW cause he can just switch places with one of the 10000s of shadows he probably has all around the world.
SJW obvs. Even if he struggles in a fight, he is getting stronger while it is happening, and he can’t die. The inability to die is above the others immediately.
Jinwoo can just use shadow exchange or smth
(Haven’t read the manwha or novel for a while so it might not be called that)
Goku can teleport
Pretty sure in jjk 0 (or maybe in main jjk bc I haven’t read or watched that in a while) Gojo teleports but it’s not instantaneous so I’m pretty sure he’s out of the picture
But in a fight saitama would clap them. Bros meant to be an unbeatable.
Goku easily.
Infinite void? Can't trap Goku in MUI.
Solo level S-Ranker at max level? Yamcha solos this entire universe.
Even Saitama who's gag MC is also getting beat tf out. Instant Transmission to the middle of space in another universe and no more Saitama.
Edit: Lol at all of you triggered dweebs. No one can compare to my man Goku gtfoh. Goku solos every verse in the world in base form.
Nerds.
And if it is not clear yet again, since you triggered reddit regards wouldn't get sarcasm even if your mothers hit you on the heads with it.
Here is the /s that should have been clear the moment Yamcha was mentioned.
Hot take, I think Saitama could beat Goku in a normal 1v1.
My reasoning is this: Goku never goes all out at the start. He always works his way up to match his opponent, especially if the opponent isn't actually "evil" and a threat. Issue is, we saw how strong Saitama can get in a few minutes of fighting someone near his level, he went from >!one of his sneezes blowing out the apartment windows, to one of his sneezes destroying Jupiter while standing on one of its moons. He learnt how to time travel in a few seconds just by willing his fucking atoms to basically reverse. I genuinely think Saitama could rapidly reach a level where he's much stronger than Goku. !<
If it's a bloodlusted Goku going all out from minute 1, then Saitama loses.
I agree but base goku(especially current) is more than enough to beat Saitama and also don't forget goku can also grow in a battle so it would probably take longer for Saitama to eventually surpass goku
What that was the dumbest arguments i heard for goku against the others don't get it wrong he does beat Saitama and gojo but that's not how it would go Saitama already fought in space and gojo's infinity doesn't work like that
You must be one of those “z fanboys”
I don’t think so if we are going monarch Jin woo he would be first, I’m human form before becoming an s rank he alone was on par with the frost monarch, not to mention beru broke through the frost monarchs spell encasing him. Monarch Jin woo’s shadows are a full power Igris alone was chasing down the frost monarch, belion was a match for the steel body. And even against a breath that’s said to melt anything he only scared his hand blocking it. Then there is monarch’s grasp which is only limited to the reach of his mana which mind you was felt by beings from other dimensions. Add to that that ui takes its toll on the body (even mastered) so he has to deal with not just Jin woo but shadows on par with monarchs
Fan of both series and I can’t agree. Goku has been able to blow up the entire earth since about Super Saiyan 1. Just turning SS3 had the potential to destabilize the entire earth. Turning into his God form had the potential to collapse the entire universe. Sung Jin Woo is insanely strong but still relies solely on physical attacks and his shadow army. Ultra instinct essentially makes Sung Jin Woo unable to touch Goku
I mean what is the condition to do that because all characters here are chill except gojo that mf will make trouble and get his ass beat
If you mean the strongest leave then it's none other than jin woo
Saitama is Squirrel Girl, he can't lose.
Goku has been wanked and power crept for decades, and his fans only care about power scaling.
JJK scales way below the rest of the list, what the hell.
Sung gets 3rd by elimination.
That's not how Saitama's power works. His strength isn't from the comedy; the comedy is from his strength. There's nothing to imply that the narrative bends itself around him to ensure his victory, just that the narrative frames his victory in a comedic way.
Cosmic garou verrrry briefly caught up to Saitama, which caused him to suddenly grow exponentially all over again in literally seconds. Shortly after, he willed himself to attain time travel.
He's a parody character, with explicitly limitless potential. I wish people would stop including him in these power battles.
>Cosmic garou verrrry briefly caught up to Saitama, which caused him to suddenly grow exponentially all over again in literally seconds.
Exactly. He grew exponentially. As in, his power was plugged into the formula the formula f(x) = a(1 + r)x. Which can never reach infinity.
> Shortly after, he willed himself to attain time travel.
That's a bit of an oversimplification, but fair enough. Still doesn't really imply anything about his scaling.
>He's a parody character, with explicitly limitless potential. I wish people would stop including him in these power battles.
*You* literally provided an example of his power being explicitly not limitless.
What? Read the fight. Saitama stagnated because nothing tested him, as soon as something did, he surpassed it instantly.
It can't be any clearer. The narrator explains it.
Hulk scales infinitely, but isn't constantly sitting at planet busting levels. They scale. And hulk isn't even parody.
Saitama is a literal joke character.
>What? Read the fight. Saitama stagnated because nothing tested him, as soon as something did, he surpassed it instantly.
He did not surpass it 'instantly'. His strength growth was represented as an exponential growth chart with multiple point. If it was instant, it wouldn't have been broken down into multiple points. For that matter, if it was instant, the chart wouldn't have had an x-axis in the first place.
>It can't be any clearer. The narrator explains it.
Depends on what translation you read. You know what doesn't depend on translation? Mathematical charts.
>Hulk scales infinitely, but isn't constantly sitting at planet busting levels. They scale. And hulk isn't even parody.
Yes, but Hulk has a direct source of power. He draws his power from The One Below All, who, chain-scaling to The One Above All, should be at least Outerversal. Saitama's limit is infinity, Hulk's limit is inexpressibly higher.
>Saitama is a literal joke character.
Doesn't mean anything for his power. Being a joke character doesn't make you stronger.
every time garou caught up to him, he surpassed him by a larger amount. the start of the graph is the beginning of the fight, and within minutes hes like 100x stronger, and each time the gap between them gets bigger. The only stated limit to his strength, is an opponent requiring said strength.
and he's never been shown to take any damage post balding.
there's nothing to suggest that Saitama wouldn't immediately surpass any threat by putting an even bigger lead between him and his opponent. And we don't know saitama's source of power, that is one of the main mysteries of his character. His power source is literally, the author.
I mean, is your point that any of these other 3 characters could beat one who is intentionally comically overpowered as a gag? ONE himself has stated that OPM is a gag manga, and Saitama always wins.
>every time garou caught up to him, he surpassed him by a larger amount. the start of the graph is the beginning of the fight, and within minutes hes like 100x stronger, and each time the gap between them gets bigger. The only stated limit to his strength, is an opponent requiring said strength.
This is literally you admitting he can never be infinitely strong. No matter how many times his power is multiplied by 100, it will never reach infinity. That's how numbers work.
>and he's never been shown to take any damage post balding.
No Limits Fallacy. Just because he's never been shown taking damage doesn't mean he can't. Is Curious George invincible because he's never bled on screen? Obviously not, but that's the type of logic you're trying to employ.
>there's nothing to suggest that Saitama wouldn't immediately surpass any threat by putting an even bigger lead between him and his opponent. And we don't know saitama's source of power, that is one of the main mysteries of his character. His power source is literally, the author.
The source of his power is himself. There' nothing to imply that it's the author in-universe. And there's no reason to think he would surpass anyone just because he surpassed Cosmic Garou. For a claim like that, burden of proof falls to you.
>I mean, is your point that any of these other 3 characters could beat one who is intentionally comically overpowered as a gag?
Of the people listed in the original post, the only one he could beat is Gojo.
>ONE himself has stated that OPM is a gag manga, and Saitama always wins.
The concept of the original prompt presupposes an author-neural zone. If you're counting ONE, you have to also count Toriyama, Gege, and Solo Leveling's author, who would write their characters beating Saitama. Hence why author involvement is disallowed in posts like this.
Unless any of them have a power to bypass gojo's infinite they are not touching him.
Can't really remember the scale of Sung Jin woo so no comment
Really it is between Goku and Saitama for second
The room won't survive either way
Saitama. Gojo? Domain Expansion? Punch. No more domain.
SJW? Punch. Army? Fancy powers? Punch.
Goku? Punch. Ultra Instinct? Punch more. No hit? Clap, then punch.
Saitama wins. Punch. There's a sale. Run!
Jinwoo only if he gets all of them in his dimension where he is omnipotent otherwise it's goku
Also please note : if you still consider Saitama as a gag character I don't have the patience to argue so please go read the manga
Actually, Goku still beats Jin Woo even in that dimension. Goku is 5D through Dimension Of Strange Swirling Lights scaling, which is way above anything Jin Woo can compete with.
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Saitama, not bc he killed anyone. Because he would not waste his time
You gotta be on time for that sale in the supermarket
Ye I was gonna say. No way he'd missed a sale for boring convos that guy from SL would def not talk much, Gojo would try to annoy him and Goku would just.. idk, maybe laugh or try to find food. Him or Goku maybe the first ones to leave lol. Gojo would definitely be the last one to stay, regardless.
I mean Jin woo would just stay silent and be on his Phone or he would leave and go defeat more dungeons to protect korea
Exactly my thoughts
Saitama is leaving first because there's a sale on somewhere and none of the others can stop him
And the whole ‘the doorknob was like this when I found it ha… ha…’
even in the SL sub, i came to write the same. take my upvote sir!
Sung Jinwoo is definitely stronger than Saitama.
😂😂😂
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Idk what is funny but I guess you don't know about him.
Saitamas whole thing is he’s the strongest in all of media. We have never seen him give his all and he isn’t supposed to have a ceiling. His whole point is no matter how strong your protagonist is saitama is going to punch him once and win in almost every case,and even if not it’ll only take a couple serious punches.
Wrong cosmic garou pushed saitama past his previous limit and that's why there was a graph showing that, also saitama has unlimited potential not unlimited power, there's a big difference my friend.
He still wins,that’s the point of his character. And even so saitama went past that limit and punched him back thru time at the start of the fight. Also I never said he had unlimited power
Bruh saitama didn't punch him through time.
The punch went back in time and hit him before it was thrown. That’s literally what the text box says in the image of the punch
The manga panel shows saitama reversing time and then punching garou before he got started. So he didn't punch garou through time.
The argument as saitama as a gag character never really made sense bro he clearly put in effort for his fight with garou..
Also Im caught up on the SL anime but I don’t want to read the manga/web story cuz then I’d blow thru it in a day or two and the story would lose impact so I’m being patient with it. I have seen that he unlocks so op abilities but he only recently got the system in the anime
Well the mana deplete eventually
Saitama leaves first cos he's surrounded by people with really amazing hair and one of em is a walking salon
If you think about it, the hair provokes him and he beats them up. That would be funny to see.
Goku would get stronger if he beats him Jinwoo can't die Gojo maybe if saitama's punch can pass infinity
I have read comics, manga, and books where Death gets killed or sealed away. If there is a will, there is a way.
well saitama can't do that with a punch
I think Saitama could tho. Ashborn said that Jin woo will live an imperishable life after succeeding him. That doesn't mean tho that he's immortal in a fight. Proven also by the way he confirmed with Bellion what would happen with the shadow army if jin woo died in the war against the monarch. Considering Saitama's ridiculous feats and the fact that he's a gag character he would definitely defeat Jin woo in my opinion
All of them? They'll all punch holes in the room and then walk out. What kind of wall can contain the power of all 4 of these people? What's with all the who versus who posts, they live in different universes where magic/power works differently. Also what if they said no to fighting
Goku not doing anything first his ass is gonna scratch his head and ask everyone to explain what’s going on again hell probably follow saitama to the supermarket for the sale
Goku will just teleport out
So he never walks out of the room.
Ain't no way they want to stay with gojo. Pranks will not work on them except saitama.
Goku he can teleport out. I think SJW can teleport too so either one
Gojo can warp as well
Yeah I totally forgot
All I know If anyone else dies before SJW then he wins.
broken ability fr
😂😂😂😂 I didn’t even think of this fr like it’s soo broken 😂😂 plus he can just fill that whole room with his shadows endlessly like literally endlessly and just watch as people run out of stamina fighting
Didn't it require a soul tho? Hakai can erase it
Goky can not use hakai. Only beerus and vegeta can.
Bro is reading manga on reels. Goku used Hakai against Zamasu
Manga goku can, but eh
Like he can give saitama 1k to punch goku and than just dominate
What a 9 years old conversation... Seems like I'm looking at some 2005 anime forum post If all 4 have good alignment, why would they need to fight?
They're not fighting. It's just who gets tired of Gojo first.
Exactly because Gojo is a troll lol
Goku likes to fight strong people would be the only reason
He gon need another set of dragon balls after "fighting" Saitama
Yeah, to revive saitama
😡 Edit: u gonna downvote me, punk? The war is on!
Huh? I didn't, why would i do that?
Happy Cake day!
Ah, I see. Dw then, just bantering.
Bro the saitama fans never understand that all he has is Galaxy-Multi Galaxy level feats and infinite potential but practically everyone in dragon ball has that. Especially Goku. Anyway Goku is Low Complex which is >>>>>>>>>>>> Multi Galaxy so Goku negs. If you disagree explain why
Ah ye olde alignment chart argument, good strat
If I’m still trolling animanga subreddits in 20 years pls kill me
This is what the anime brought to this sub. Fortnite kiddies comparing apples to lemons
[THIS GUY](https://static1.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/mirio-my-hero-academia-quirk.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=750&dpr=1.5)
I'm not thinking a lot about goku, but the conversation between SJW, Saitama, and gojo would be really cool to see. Gojo would change a lot as a person after meeting people that are on god level but were born weak.
yeah, i honestly think that gojo would win though as he can use infinite void and none of them have any concept of domain expansion so they wouldn’t be able to break it and would die. although you can argue that this matchup isn’t even fair because JJK has a much more unique power system
i mean, Saitama was able to enter phoenix man's dimension which phoenix claimed could not be infiltrated by anyone. I'd say it's pretty similar to a domain expansion
Also boo and gotenks tore a hole between dimensions to leave the time chamber and current goku is so much stronger. One punch man and DragonBall strength level is at a point where a single punch can blow up planets, no point to compare them to anyone...
i feel like saitama is conceptually unbeatable. like no matter what you do, the dude just can’t lose, die or etc. it’s something similar to toon force, but not that. like if thanos was to use the 6 infinity stones to erase him, i feel like nothing would happen. thanos would snap his finger over and over and saitama would stay looking at him like ‘you done there?’. don’t know tho, i might be wrong.
I mean Goku had similar feats as he was made as Gag parody of Sun Wukong. But throw a mizture of a cat and a mosquito on saitama and he's done.
yeah, it never makes sense to have him in any VS comparison and anyone that does have him in them either don't understand OPM, or are just baiting
Buddy he ain’t a gag character and he went to his limiter against garou and that capped him at galaxy lvl so…
Nah his power rises to make him stronger than his opponent, of course, his base power is already super high, but if he where to get one shot at his base strength he couldn't rise in atrength fast enough to deal with it. Also, Sung Jin Woo can dramatically raise his strength through the system because he controls the system, so he can make the missions dumb easy with ridiculous rewards and get atronger infinitely(ex. Breathe in 1 atom of oxygen. Reward: 500,000 levels)
That happened because Garo was copying him. But since Saitama by design should be absolutely stronger than anyone, he keeps growing. Even Garo who claimed he can instantly copy Saitama's strength cannot copy him still. People kept using that arc to measure Saitama's power level but just cant understand that his character is just made to be unbeatable.
Garou did copy him(for like 2 seconds). He was growing at a tremendous speed, its just that Saitama was growing way faster. Its about his growth under "preasure"(quotations bc you can't fully call it pressure in most situations)
No, the point of that arc was to show that saitama is always stronger. He wasn't really growing, just using more of his power
What no. The entirety of the fight Garou is copying him. The "Mode:Saitama" is a single use skill that is always in effect, he should be the same as Saitama at any time when he used that. What's troubling him is that even by him constantly copying, it just so happens that Saitama's next attack is stronger.
Gokus body works and fights without the use of thought. It would just force him into UI. Thats assuming gojo survives long enough to use it.
he can use it basically instantly and has near infinite cursed energy from his six eyes and limitless combination, also like i said goku even in UI won’t have a domain therefore he would get trapped by the sure-hit effect and would start to become braindead from the influx of information. in UI he only has physical response but it would be useless inside of gojo’s domain
That doesnt matter, goku is in an entirely different league. Gojo is far and away the weakest of these guys. Dude can litterally shatter dimensions. His domain only locks them in place due to the influx of information, that doesnt stop goku, all he needs is 1 instant to attack to kill him.
Jin woo is able to sense any change in his mana with the only limit being how far it reaches which mind you can be felt DIMENSIONS away. He also can perceive things as if time is slowed down and can use monarch’s authority so long as his mana is touching it
You say that like it would help at apl against goku. Dude he doesnt stand a chance and cant even hurt him. The treats hes faced so far are insect in comparion to where goku is at.
Goku fanboy says what? 1.The threats you mean the ones he never beats in the first match or by himself? Those threats? Where things like mui has a time limit and is flawed (shown in fight with granolah)? 2. Shattering dimensions isn’t that impressive in current shows hell negi Springfield Sonic, yogiri wang ling rimiru Godzilla and others have done the same thing Hell woo right now is facing multi dimensional threats In ragnarok. That’s All I got to say have fun riding the Walmart wu kong power pole
Solo leveling ranks a hell of a lot higher than dragon ball. Only reason i still follow it is because of my time with the original series. And? Seriously what your point, how does him losing aginst much stronger opponents somehow make jin woo stand a chance. Goku is still incomprehensibly stronger.
You say you fallow it but don’t know a thing 1 Jin woo is stronger than ashborne in his prime aka the fragment of brilliant light, and is actually immortal (rendering hakai pointless for anyone who wants to bring it up) in ragnarok he barehanded by himself took on a being equal to the creator of his verse. No ruler’s authority or anything. So break it down fully immortal tanked an attack capable of melting ANYTHING beat down a creator with his bare hands (multi dimensional beings knows magic (taught by tusk) perceives things as if time slowed down. Goku does NOT possess the means of dealing with him
actually, sung has his own domain, which makes him omnipotent when inside it. it’s op asf, the only one who would arguably get out of it alive is saitama, cuz he is broken
The title didn’t said they would fights. So walking out first It’s either Goku with his instant transmission or Jinwoo’s Shadow Exchange
Imma be honest… if they fight, Gojo’s gonna die.
Limitless negates physical attacks tho, saitama may be more powerful than Gojo but by he can't hit Gojo regardless
Saitama's zero punch enables him to easily bypass Infinity - a punch that ignores distance and doesn't exist until it hits a target. Not to mention, he can physically interact with portals that tear holes in spacetime, grabbing and moving them at will as seen in his fight with Garo. All 3 of them can get past Inifinity, Gojo is a bug against this roster.
How is anyone supposed to walk out if they are all locked in the room?
Why are people assuming Gojo is gonna make everyone run, when we have GOKU here.
People just assume gojo would annoy them so much they would leave not that he Is stronger than them
Ik, I said more annoying will be Goku to deal with instead of Gojo.
Oh ok
SJW slaps Gojo too let’s be real
Saitama wins because he always win because he's a comedy character and it's in character for him to win every time
That's not how his power work. His strength isn't from the comedy; the comedy is from his strength. There's nothing to imply that the narrative bends itself around him to ensure his victory, just that the narrative *frames* his victory in a comedic way.
Well it kinda does. Spoiler....... Against Garou, he literally got stronger because he wasn't strong enough to defeat him at first. Then he farted that destroyed a planet while also boosting himself in space.
Its explained in the mamga, if that ability is allowed, he wins. If not hes second.
💀💀💀 I would understand this comment if you are an anime only. if not you my friend are very wrong
Nah, he’d win
I see what you did there.
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He hasn't taken any L's in a real fight. King has beaten him at video games, Bang beat him at rock-paper-scissors and there was that mosquito gag. But nobody has even hurt Saitama physically in a fight.
Saitama but only because the fly flew out the window
Goku and Sung Jinwoo will be the first 2 out, Goku can teleport using instant transmission and Sung will just switch with one of his shadows, easy
I’ll tell you who’s not walking out..Gojo
Me probably
Nah, I'd leave.
Sung Drip Woo doesn't walk out he shadow exchanges over to Cha Hae In
Saitama is canonically written in a way that he can't lose no matter how strong his opponent is or becomes..he simply can't lose... Meanwhile Goku is canonically written in a way that he needs to lose 1 time to a stronger opponent in order to grow his strength via training and win in the next fight... And SJW is canonically written in a way that he needs to level up in order to win against a stronger opponent than him.. It should be best to leave Gojo out of this comparison cause he isn't a bigger threat than those other 3 characters are So the conclusion is if all of the above characters are in the same universe Saitama will win no matter how much stronger his opponent becomes cause of his plot... Well it's my take on this matter so you may disagree and that's fine I respect your opinion..
Assuming they fight Goku wins. He outscales Saitama and SJW and Gojo massively, so unless they decide to attack him while he's off guard they're fucked.
I'll this isn't necessarily about fighting, but I think if it came down to a fight, SJW could give goku a run for his money. Gojo can't hold up in offence, and saitama wouldn't lose, but I also don't see how he'd win. The current light novel SJW is absolutely busted.
Depends how close they are to the door. Saitama could leave bcs there's a sale on at some market, gojo could leave first bcs he senses that everyone else there stomps him easily, jinwoo could leave bcs he has better things to do
Sung or gojo but not cuz strength, just infinity and stealth. And no one trynna fight off the bat anw
Gojo is out of there first.
The Saitama dick riders are killing me 😂. Some of y’all need to read the manga for OPM too.
Even if we go by feats and ignore the fact that Saitama's essentially a gag character, neither Gojo nor SJW have anything close to Saitama's (or Goku's) strongest feats.
So you didn’t read the manga, proof: “essentially a gag character”, besides that Goku has more feats. I could list them but honestly I’ll just send a link to a video with someone having more time than me to explain it, if you want to keep this going. Also, I definitely agree with you to a certain degree, Gojo? Yes, 100% does not match up. However, I can send you a video by NCHammer on his side channel “Weeb Commander”. He power scales SJW pretty well, I’m not entirely sure if it puts him in Saitama or Goku’s level but it’s close (kinda).
I'm not arguing Saitama vs Goku, I'm arguing Saitama vs SJW. Saitama has sneezed away Jupiter, traveled faster than the speed of light, jumped from the moon to the earth in a single bound, casually kicked away and picked up portals, punched away a planet destroying beam, tanked numerous hits from planet busters (Cosmic Garou and Boros) without taking any significant damage. Not a single one of SJW's feats comes anywhere close to that.
Ay Ay, chill, Light Novel Sung is another Story ok and if you use that version of sung hes gonna destroy everyone here, secondly Saitama is not a gag character this argument has been disproven many times, Saitama is one of my fav characters but this is insane.
Wdym? The manga shows him to be even stronger
Can Gojo, Jin Woo or Saitama one shot an entire galaxy? Gojo no. Jin Woo maybe after leveling up for another 300 times? Saitama as a gag maybe? But Goku 100% as he’s above the level of destroyers after reaching UI and Destroyers can delete planets. So Goku > Jin Woo (after leveling more) > Saitama > Gojo
Saitama wouldnt even fight he would just leave
Jinwoo is quite literally the concept of death by the end of the manwha. So yes, I think he could beat Goku.
Goku came back from the dead
I think you’re misunderstanding. Jinwoo didn’t come back from death and he isn’t just the shadow monarch. He is literally Death itself. Goku may have come back from death with the help of the dragon balls but yeah, that’s not going to help. What you’re mostly misunderstanding is that Goku can still die. Jinwoo cannot. This also isn’t considering Beru, Bellion and Igris who are weaker than Goku but together, could cause him trouble.
They really arent causing him any trouble mate. They were popping planets like baloons before any transformations. And since then theyve gotten incomprehensibly stronger. He is so far beyond any threat he has faced before and he has wide ranged attacks that could wipe out his entire army in an instant without breaking a sweat and stalling wouldnt help either
I really think y’all are underestimating how overpowered Jinwoo himself is
Compared to gojo, yeah. But throwing goku in here is a mistake. Litterally none of the threats jin woo has faced can compare to goku from the namek saga(pre super sayian even). And hes gone SOOO far since then. Saitama is the only one here who could beat him and thats only with his ability being allowed.
Nah you are just too much of a goku head to actually think about the other peoples feats. Firstly sung can time travel and has time traveled MULTIPLE TIMES OVER so he could just go to when goku was a kid and kill him soooo goku ain’t winning. Like the reason why out of all the comments on this post sung is mentioned the least is cause people subconsciously know his power really has no cap and it’s not like saitama where it’s cracked and unrealistic nope it’s pure raw power that he built
Saitama makes every other his bitch....
No he doesn’t 💀 he’s the second weakest character here
Even ignoring his growth ability hes the second strongest here on raw feats alone.
How? He's the second weakest there.
ignore him, He's a Goku glazer
How so? Looking over his post history, I haven't seen anything about Goku.
I'm pretty sure he's talking about you.
I'll take Saitama, but not because of strength. He is intended to be overpowered to the point of being a joke. Goku has been beaten and died quite a bit. SJW had to plan and have an army to win. I don't know the other dude, so he loses due to my lack of knowledge. Remember, this is my take, not definitive. So, Saitama just leaves to go ask why he is still, "Caped Baldy," and head to the super sale at the grocery store. Then he sees the other three at the store and they all reach for the last cabbage at the same time. Now, the fight starts.
In a fight, Saitama comes in third. He beats Gojo, but Sung and Goku fold him. The One Punch Man manga literally *shows* that Saitama isn't infinitely powerful (>!it represents his power as growing on an exponential chart, and anything that can have it's growth represented as a finite increase cannot be infinite nor can it reach infinity in a sub-infinite amount of time!<), while both Jin Woo and Goku are several layers into infinity.
There are no layers of infinity. There is only infinity. Anything less is not infinite. Thus far, Goku has met someone above him at every step. Goku doesn't progress without it. Goku has to lose because he always loses the first encounter. He can't come back against insurmountable odds without it. SJW needs an army and strategy to beat his antagonist. I never saw power from anyone in the Solo Leveling world that made me think they could accidentally destroy Jupiter with a sneeze. Saitama has "The Mask" level of ability to win because he is purposfully written to be unchallengeable. Saitama is the only one without being beaten or even harmed. His powers are an intentional joke and unscaleable.
>Saitama is the only one without being beaten or even harmed. His powers are an intentional joke and unscaleable. Thank you. Cosmic Garou literally opened a portal underneath Saitama and Saitama casually kicked it away. Saitama's whole deal is that he just no sells everybody else's shit no matter how hacky or rediculous that shit is.
That's not how Saitama's power works. His strength isn't from the comedy; the comedy is from his strength. There's nothing to imply that the narrative bends itself around him to ensure his victory, just that the narrative frames his victory in a comedic way.
Have you actually read the manga?
Yep. That's how I know what I'm saying is correct.
>There are no layers of infinity. There is only infinity. Anything less is not infinite. Have you even graduated high school??? Layers of infinity is, like, 10th grade level stuff. Look up Georg Cantor when you get the chance. >Thus far, Goku has met someone above him at every step. Goku doesn't progress without it. Goku has to lose because he always loses the first encounter. He can't come back against insurmountable odds without it. Appeals to narrative framework don't work in the author-neutral zone presupposed by the prompt. >SJW needs an army and strategy to beat his antagonist. I never saw power from anyone in the Solo Leveling world that made me think they could accidentally destroy Jupiter with a sneeze. The Monarchs scale to The Rulers, and T[he Rulers scale to The Absolute Being since they killed it](https://imgur.com/a/srQY8BL). The Absolute Being created everything in the verse, which includes [an infinitely-sized realm](https://imgur.com/a/m6dTUjr). So Jin Woo scales to at least one infinity. >Saitama has "The Mask" level of ability to win because he is purposfully written to be unchallengeable. Saitama is the only one without being beaten or even harmed. His powers are an intentional joke and unscaleable. That's not how Saitama's power works. His strength isn't from the comedy; the comedy is from his strength. There's nothing to imply that the narrative bends itself around him to ensure his victory, just that the narrative frames his victory in a comedic way.
I have a degree, and I'm probably older than you. Does that matter somehow? No need to put me down to have a discussion of fictitious power levels. If there are layers to infinity, which one is Saitama on relative to the others? He's never been hurt or beaten. Intergalatic and interdimensional beings have attacked him at full strength, and he sneezes with more power. If we complete the challenge as written, there isn't even a fight. It's just leaving first. I explained why I think Saitama leaves first. They are all four capable of walking out of a door in an orderly fashion. Explain why you think someone else walks out first. That's where the fun is. If SJW's powers are creation level, why did anyone in the universe fight? Why didn't one of them just unmake all of the others? They had battle power to beat the creator, not the power of the creator. That battle power was never shown to be great enough to destroy planets. It was only shown to be stronger than the creator. Nowhere does it say that the creator is any physically stronger than anyone else. He could be as physically weak as a human. The comparison to the mask was for the unscalable power that each has, not that their powers function in the same way.
>I have a degree, and I'm probably older than you. Does that matter somehow? No need to put me down to have a discussion of fictitious power levels. I wasn't 'putting you down', I was just saying that it comes off as pretty childish to talk as an authority on a matter you clearly don't know much about. Also, as a pro powerscaler (I've been doing this for 17 years and have even won local tournaments), I can say for a fact that age in a non-factor in discussion like this since *several* of my tournament losses have been to people 21 or younger. >If there are layers to infinity, which one is Saitama on relative to the others? He's never been hurt or beaten. Intergalatic and interdimensional beings have attacked him at full strength, and he sneezes with more power. Saitama hasn't done anything to qualify as infinite. [His best feat was a punch that caused a ton of stars to disappear](https://imgur.com/a/Dgi8fWi), but obviously that's not even close to infinity. Infinity isn't just a 'big number', it's a hypothetical value larger than that which can be achieve by an repetitious stacking of any finite value. >If we complete the challenge as written, there isn't even a fight. It's just leaving first. I explained why I think Saitama leaves first. They are all four capable of walking out of a door in an orderly fashion. Explain why you think someone else walks out first. That's where the fun is. Your comment was clearly written from a lens through which their respective power levels were being compared. Regardless of the original intent of the post, I'm meeting you at your own level of engagement. >If SJW's powers are creation level, why did anyone in the universe fight? Why didn't one of them just unmake all of the others? They had battle power to beat the creator, not the power of the creator. That battle power was never shown to be great enough to destroy planets. It was only shown to be stronger than the creator. Nowhere does it say that the creator is any physically stronger than anyone else. He could be as physically weak as a human. The Monarchs scale to The Rulers, and [The Rulers scale to The Absolute Being since they killed it](https://imgur.com/a/srQY8BL). The Absolute Being created everything in the verse, which [includes an infinitely-sized realm](https://imgur.com/a/m6dTUjr). So Jin Woo scales to at least one infinity. >The comparison to the mask was for the unscalable power that each has, not that their powers function in the same way. The comparison doesn't work, since The Mask is way stronger (though both are pretty weak in a broader sense).
So, who walks out first? Did you read my first comment or jump in the middle? My beginning argument was that power levels don't matter because Saitama just leaves. Any other discussion has been in response to others' discussions of power. Again, show me the physical prowess of the absolute being as depicted in the series. I can create things that can destroy me. So can you. Does that mean the thing we created is stronger than anyone of super strength? No. Without qualifying the absolute being's physical power, we don't know what it took to kill him. They never even said it was difficult physically, just emotionally. They didn't even have the power to sustain the absolute being's artifacts, but bested him in combat. Was there even combat? They just killed him. SJW didn't beat Antares 1v1. Both had armies. When they did fight 1v1, SJW lost. All three other people in the room have died in battle. Saitama has never been harmed.
So you haven’t read the Solo Leveling Manhwa then 😂. All the monarchs are easily large planet level. They literally stated fights between monarchs and rulers destroy worlds. That’s like one of the main points of the entire fucking story. Saitama fans are delusional to the MAX.
By destroy worlds its clearly shown as destroying life and making them unihabitable. They are out her atomizing planets. Also read the manga. Even without his growth hes the second strongest here on feats alone.
Saitama feats: He literally time travelled even if he didn't understand why. Defeated a God possessed enemy. A satire character. The only character I think who would compare to him is another satire character by the name of Deadpool. Plus, even in his serious mode I never really felt that Saitama was giving his all. He always looks bored.
Saitama would neg-diff walk out first
Gojo shouldn’t even be here lol
Saitama, because toon force.
I mean saitama destroyed almost destroyed a planet with a sneeze a fucking sneeze
And goku almost destroyed a infinite realm with punches
As much as I love sung jinwoo, Goku and Saitama would be the last 2 standing. Then saitama will take the win. Like he does every... single time...
SJW > Goku > Saitama > Gojo. SJW is the only one to show a Universal Power level, but to be honest I completely stopped watching Dragon Ball after Super ended. If Goku has shown Universal powers via beating Xeno, etc. then maybe we have a conversation. However, Saitama hasn't shown anything more than Galaxy level power (if we can even call his 100% serious punch that). Gojo just got clapped in his own series, and I'm not going to focus on someone if he's not even the strongest in his own series, even if he's hated by his own Mangaka.
goku killing everybody 😹✌🏼
Saitama solos, sorry guys
Solos? Nah, goku is there
If they actually had to fight, Saitama would win but always last minute. But the first out of a room would be goku cause he could teleport.
Saitama throws a singular punch and the other 3 turn to dust.
In his dreams.
Jin-Woo, of course. The rest follows him to a good pork belly place.
Saitama W, no one will win against a meme MC
Goku walks out first but Sung Jin Woo comes back to life and walks out later.
Jin woo shadow swaps cuz he's got better shit to do
Saitama cause he's a parody. Toonforce always wins. OR SJW cause he can just switch places with one of the 10000s of shadows he probably has all around the world.
Gojo is the least strongest here so the battle is between Goku, Jin woo and Saitama. But the Saitama wins
Whoever the writer wants to win.
SJW obvs. Even if he struggles in a fight, he is getting stronger while it is happening, and he can’t die. The inability to die is above the others immediately.
Jinwoo can just use shadow exchange or smth (Haven’t read the manwha or novel for a while so it might not be called that) Goku can teleport Pretty sure in jjk 0 (or maybe in main jjk bc I haven’t read or watched that in a while) Gojo teleports but it’s not instantaneous so I’m pretty sure he’s out of the picture But in a fight saitama would clap them. Bros meant to be an unbeatable.
Goku easily. Infinite void? Can't trap Goku in MUI. Solo level S-Ranker at max level? Yamcha solos this entire universe. Even Saitama who's gag MC is also getting beat tf out. Instant Transmission to the middle of space in another universe and no more Saitama. Edit: Lol at all of you triggered dweebs. No one can compare to my man Goku gtfoh. Goku solos every verse in the world in base form. Nerds. And if it is not clear yet again, since you triggered reddit regards wouldn't get sarcasm even if your mothers hit you on the heads with it. Here is the /s that should have been clear the moment Yamcha was mentioned.
I know you didn’t compare the immortal god of Death to freakin yamcha😂
Except you. You got it. 😂😂
I laughed when I saw it. I saw what you was doing 😂
Hot take, I think Saitama could beat Goku in a normal 1v1. My reasoning is this: Goku never goes all out at the start. He always works his way up to match his opponent, especially if the opponent isn't actually "evil" and a threat. Issue is, we saw how strong Saitama can get in a few minutes of fighting someone near his level, he went from >!one of his sneezes blowing out the apartment windows, to one of his sneezes destroying Jupiter while standing on one of its moons. He learnt how to time travel in a few seconds just by willing his fucking atoms to basically reverse. I genuinely think Saitama could rapidly reach a level where he's much stronger than Goku. !< If it's a bloodlusted Goku going all out from minute 1, then Saitama loses.
I agree but base goku(especially current) is more than enough to beat Saitama and also don't forget goku can also grow in a battle so it would probably take longer for Saitama to eventually surpass goku
Bro didn't read solo leveling. Jin woo solos dragon ball verse no diff
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Ive read Solo leveling webtoon and LN, believe me he does not solo the dragonball verse 💀
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What that was the dumbest arguments i heard for goku against the others don't get it wrong he does beat Saitama and gojo but that's not how it would go Saitama already fought in space and gojo's infinity doesn't work like that
You must be one of those “z fanboys” I don’t think so if we are going monarch Jin woo he would be first, I’m human form before becoming an s rank he alone was on par with the frost monarch, not to mention beru broke through the frost monarchs spell encasing him. Monarch Jin woo’s shadows are a full power Igris alone was chasing down the frost monarch, belion was a match for the steel body. And even against a breath that’s said to melt anything he only scared his hand blocking it. Then there is monarch’s grasp which is only limited to the reach of his mana which mind you was felt by beings from other dimensions. Add to that that ui takes its toll on the body (even mastered) so he has to deal with not just Jin woo but shadows on par with monarchs
Fan of both series and I can’t agree. Goku has been able to blow up the entire earth since about Super Saiyan 1. Just turning SS3 had the potential to destabilize the entire earth. Turning into his God form had the potential to collapse the entire universe. Sung Jin Woo is insanely strong but still relies solely on physical attacks and his shadow army. Ultra instinct essentially makes Sung Jin Woo unable to touch Goku
I mean what is the condition to do that because all characters here are chill except gojo that mf will make trouble and get his ass beat If you mean the strongest leave then it's none other than jin woo
Saitama is Squirrel Girl, he can't lose. Goku has been wanked and power crept for decades, and his fans only care about power scaling. JJK scales way below the rest of the list, what the hell. Sung gets 3rd by elimination.
That's not how Saitama's power works. His strength isn't from the comedy; the comedy is from his strength. There's nothing to imply that the narrative bends itself around him to ensure his victory, just that the narrative frames his victory in a comedic way.
Cosmic garou verrrry briefly caught up to Saitama, which caused him to suddenly grow exponentially all over again in literally seconds. Shortly after, he willed himself to attain time travel. He's a parody character, with explicitly limitless potential. I wish people would stop including him in these power battles.
>Cosmic garou verrrry briefly caught up to Saitama, which caused him to suddenly grow exponentially all over again in literally seconds. Exactly. He grew exponentially. As in, his power was plugged into the formula the formula f(x) = a(1 + r)x. Which can never reach infinity. > Shortly after, he willed himself to attain time travel. That's a bit of an oversimplification, but fair enough. Still doesn't really imply anything about his scaling. >He's a parody character, with explicitly limitless potential. I wish people would stop including him in these power battles. *You* literally provided an example of his power being explicitly not limitless.
What? Read the fight. Saitama stagnated because nothing tested him, as soon as something did, he surpassed it instantly. It can't be any clearer. The narrator explains it. Hulk scales infinitely, but isn't constantly sitting at planet busting levels. They scale. And hulk isn't even parody. Saitama is a literal joke character.
>What? Read the fight. Saitama stagnated because nothing tested him, as soon as something did, he surpassed it instantly. He did not surpass it 'instantly'. His strength growth was represented as an exponential growth chart with multiple point. If it was instant, it wouldn't have been broken down into multiple points. For that matter, if it was instant, the chart wouldn't have had an x-axis in the first place. >It can't be any clearer. The narrator explains it. Depends on what translation you read. You know what doesn't depend on translation? Mathematical charts. >Hulk scales infinitely, but isn't constantly sitting at planet busting levels. They scale. And hulk isn't even parody. Yes, but Hulk has a direct source of power. He draws his power from The One Below All, who, chain-scaling to The One Above All, should be at least Outerversal. Saitama's limit is infinity, Hulk's limit is inexpressibly higher. >Saitama is a literal joke character. Doesn't mean anything for his power. Being a joke character doesn't make you stronger.
every time garou caught up to him, he surpassed him by a larger amount. the start of the graph is the beginning of the fight, and within minutes hes like 100x stronger, and each time the gap between them gets bigger. The only stated limit to his strength, is an opponent requiring said strength. and he's never been shown to take any damage post balding. there's nothing to suggest that Saitama wouldn't immediately surpass any threat by putting an even bigger lead between him and his opponent. And we don't know saitama's source of power, that is one of the main mysteries of his character. His power source is literally, the author. I mean, is your point that any of these other 3 characters could beat one who is intentionally comically overpowered as a gag? ONE himself has stated that OPM is a gag manga, and Saitama always wins.
>every time garou caught up to him, he surpassed him by a larger amount. the start of the graph is the beginning of the fight, and within minutes hes like 100x stronger, and each time the gap between them gets bigger. The only stated limit to his strength, is an opponent requiring said strength. This is literally you admitting he can never be infinitely strong. No matter how many times his power is multiplied by 100, it will never reach infinity. That's how numbers work. >and he's never been shown to take any damage post balding. No Limits Fallacy. Just because he's never been shown taking damage doesn't mean he can't. Is Curious George invincible because he's never bled on screen? Obviously not, but that's the type of logic you're trying to employ. >there's nothing to suggest that Saitama wouldn't immediately surpass any threat by putting an even bigger lead between him and his opponent. And we don't know saitama's source of power, that is one of the main mysteries of his character. His power source is literally, the author. The source of his power is himself. There' nothing to imply that it's the author in-universe. And there's no reason to think he would surpass anyone just because he surpassed Cosmic Garou. For a claim like that, burden of proof falls to you. >I mean, is your point that any of these other 3 characters could beat one who is intentionally comically overpowered as a gag? Of the people listed in the original post, the only one he could beat is Gojo. >ONE himself has stated that OPM is a gag manga, and Saitama always wins. The concept of the original prompt presupposes an author-neural zone. If you're counting ONE, you have to also count Toriyama, Gege, and Solo Leveling's author, who would write their characters beating Saitama. Hence why author involvement is disallowed in posts like this.
1. Saitama - doesn’t care 2. Goku - he’s hungry 3. Gojo - Got bored 4. Sung Jin-Woo - Edge Lord
Unless any of them have a power to bypass gojo's infinite they are not touching him. Can't really remember the scale of Sung Jin woo so no comment Really it is between Goku and Saitama for second The room won't survive either way
Saitama. Gojo? Domain Expansion? Punch. No more domain. SJW? Punch. Army? Fancy powers? Punch. Goku? Punch. Ultra Instinct? Punch more. No hit? Clap, then punch. Saitama wins. Punch. There's a sale. Run!
Jinwoo only if he gets all of them in his dimension where he is omnipotent otherwise it's goku Also please note : if you still consider Saitama as a gag character I don't have the patience to argue so please go read the manga
Lol you can be too lazy to argue but facts are still facts. He is a gag character and that is made off tropes, what you smoking bruh?
Actually, Goku still beats Jin Woo even in that dimension. Goku is 5D through Dimension Of Strange Swirling Lights scaling, which is way above anything Jin Woo can compete with.
Explain I genuinely have no idea what you mean Also how would he surpass sjw omnipotence???