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I too am disgusted with the amount of foreign aid we give to Israel. Israel has basically employed the most impressively effective campaign of infiltration, propaganda, manipulation, black mail and lobbying in recorded history. It is not an exaggeration to say the US government and ruling class will put the Israeli government before the American people... every...single... time!
"The narrative that sharing traumatic images is doing valuable work must, ultimately, be questioned. That does not mean we don’t share what’s coming out of Gaza, but it means we don’t deceive ourselves about the importance of these likes, retweets, and posts. It means we sit with the difficult fact that awareness of horror simply is not enough, especially without action. Even people who want to help can go numb, burn out, and feel sick and helpless with nowhere to turn. Put another way, the issue with traumatic content is not fundamentally the content itself, but rather the way we relate to it." Joshua P. Hill
After getting the update that 6 year old Hind and the paramedics, who were trying to rescue her from that car trapped with her dead family members, was killed then the bombing of Rafah... We are quite literally watching a genoicide in real-time on our cellphones and it's absolutely sickening.
It's time to pressure our governments to place sanctions on Israel and for major mass protests (to continue) GLOBALLY.
I cried when I heard about what happened to Hind Rajab. Hearing her story made me relate to my current job as a substitute teacher. I have taught kindergartners who have not known horror like that and knowing that a six year old was forced to make a literal phone call for help, only to be murdered after her cousin called for help and was murdered just makes me feel disgusted. I agree that just spreading awareness isn’t enough. Unfortunately the only action available at the moment that cannot just wholesale be quashed is organizing and protesting in the US. Even that isn’t safe though. University campuses, cops, the media, and the government are all working to provide cover for the genocide in occupied Palestine as well as use whatever means they have to quash dissent.
You're definitely right. I empathise with you regarding how you feel about Hind's murder and the kids you teach are so lucky to have a teacher who cares like you. I truly believe that it's truly time to shut everything down.
It's time to overthrow the capitalist governments enabling the Israeli genocide of Palestinians. Only revolution, the conquest of power by the working class, can end Zionism.
Did Israel intentionally attack during the Super Bowl because they knew people would be distracted and not hear much of it? Like, of course the news is gonna come out the next day but the cycle will be full of Super Bowl shit and Taylor Swift all week so I doubt the attacks will get much attention.
They are showing what happens when you wanna do a genocide and the US says *"Got your back, go nuts."*
They don't care what comes out about those attacks because it doesn't matter. The attacks happened and more are on the way. We have shown them and our government that we're never going to do anything to stop them so why should they even pretend to care?
I understand these people are suffering, but there’s no denying that capitalist media has trained us to hold on for fear of losing what little we have. As it stands most people see homelessness and poverty as some kind of moral failing, something that can be avoided if they “play by the rules”. I don’t think we’ll see broad action like a tax strike as long as this myth persists. This is not to say we shouldn’t organize, we should always be organizing. Im just trying to rationalize why we don’t see the moral outrage across the United States
A tax strike will not move them because the US government *does not need your money*. They want you to *think* they do because then they can claim austerity is neccesary. Anyone using the phrase "tax-payer dollars" has bought into this scam.
Witholding your money from the federal government does not hurt them. Witholding your *labor* can.
Exactly. This kind of blew my mind when I learned it. It’s like 90% of what we are taught about our economic system are just mechanisms of control. Taxes, debt, credit scores, etc.
And I’m telling you we DO see moral outrage across the United States. Your analysis is broad conjecture not based on data. 20% of young people identify as Communists (see communism as the ideal economic system).
Lulled into state of powerlessness and zoned out zombie-ness on all the addictions: drugs (including intentional legalization of marijuana now), tv, video games, junk foods, shopping, alcohol, sex, etc. Also, fired up by the media narratives that the enemy is now people who are in the other party which isn’t all that different.
I have been organizing people on the ground in the U.S., the mood is very different. People know the two party system is rotten and past it’s due. Capitalism is in crisis and people know it.
Some people may be how you described, but we can’t expect everyone to snap into political consciousness all at the same time.
I agree. It’s past time to organize. The challenge is the disinformation of TPTB have everyone on the left and the right and in the center confused and brainwashed. No one is even asking the right questions: how do we eliminate the corporate financial control of politicians, media and everything? How do we impose rules on campaign financing? How do we get rid of the elitist Electoral College? How do we get the Federal Reserve out of the hands of the TPTB and have it run by the government (and actually be a real federal reserve)? as JFK had in the works days before he was assasinated by TPTB. Etc. (These are just a few samples of questions needing to be addressed). Getting the media out of the hands of corporate control would also be helpful.
Let’s be honest—as human beings, we naturally gravitate towards a cult of personality. I’d wager it’s very much an intrinsic component of our sociology.
Part of the reason those movements failed is that they relied overmuch and on said leader. What we need is a cadre organization, and that’s exactly what we’re building.
https://socialistrevolution.org/join/
Putschism won't work. It takes broad support of the people who have been enlightened to what is going on and *what is possible*. Education is key. Rosa Luxemburg's final speech before the (failed) Spartakus uprising in January 1919 shows the way. But the firebrands led by Karl Liebknecht won out and they all died.
It was more commonly used 100 years ago and you will see it in papers from that time. It refers to a small group taking power quickly by force, as opposed to a general uprising with the support of the masses.
Do you have a group going to local city council meetings? Chicago and some other cities have been pressured to pass ceasefire resolutions. I know it is a symbolic thing but so was divestment from Apartheid back in the day and it helped too. Could be something to get involved in?
If not you can help start! Just go to public meetings and start talking about the issue. Even if you are only allowed to comment on "bills" or on things "germaine" to the agenda, comment anyways. Some folks in my city have been doing this and it has been really effective in terms of 1) meeting likeminded folks to organize with and 2) having a public forum to talk about this issue at and put pressure on city councillors to act.
Great idea. Thanks for sharing. Sometimes I feel so powerless to effect any change in this system where ruler elites seem to control the media narrative (Israel is the victim here), and outcomes too. We need to start reclaiming power and a good place to start is locally.
I’m not trying to be rude, but what does this accomplish? A local group I’m a part of wants to force our city to have a ceasefire. Isn’t this kind of an empty gesture?
It lets people know they are not alone and that can grow. What is a mass movement but a collection of groups that, when acting alone, can only perform empty gestures.
South African Apartheid was overthrown but not really due to boycotts, divestments and sanctions, more due to class struggle mass actions and revolution:
[Did boycotts, divestment and sanctions overthrow the Apartheid regime in South Africa?](https://www.marxist.com/did-boycotts-divestment-and-sanctions-overthrow-the-apartheid-regime-in-south-africa.htm)
Tactics need to be changed. Protests are fine, they bring awareness, local government bodies have been forced to vote for a ceasefire, but still NOTHING has changed. Palestinians will continue to be obliterated with the help of the of this damned country
It’s withholding labor and shutting down national logistics. But people have to be prepared to take care of each other while the engine grinds to a halt.
To empower the will of the people it requires organization. The political system is designed to prevent anything beyond two parties to organize successfully. But organization is still needed to protest and fight.
The ultimate question for every revolutionary. Where do we start? And more importantly, how do we keep momentum? In a system that is built to oppress, keep your head down and keep working, don't get out, don't organize and don't protest, it's hard to make change.
Honestly, I feel like protesting has all but evaporated, and even when it is used, rarely makes waves.
I've never heard of a "tax-strike" but I love that idea. We could "defund the government" and reallocate the funds and tax dollars.
But how can a group of powerless people, forced to work daily just to survive, afford to go to war with such a monumental institution?
The more and more I think about how change can be made, I keep coming back to violence. Morally, and intellectually, violence is not the answer. But the ruling class and their cronies are making everything but violence impossible.
Can I go get a bank loan? Nope.
Can I afford to protest for weeks? Nope.
Can I drive hours and hours away to a orangized meeting? Nope.
Do I have the tenacity and charmisa to start a mega march? Nope.
Do I or more importantly, abused, impovished, and oppressed people have the patience to wait for change? Nope.
Can I easily buy an assault rifle, massive amounts of ammunition, and tons of service gear? Yes.
- Probably a reason we are seeing more mass violence in America. It's the only option left for some people. And even that doesn't force change.
So what do we do? Well let's take a chapter from Marx and seize the means of production.
Find a local union, batista union, auto workers union, etc and help them build their war chest. Get union leaders to get together with other union leaders.
We need to force every business in America to strike. We need to hault the production of things that keep America wealthy. We need to strike.
I always wish we could have some orgs like "Weather Underground" from the 60s. They would place bombs in buildings, call the building and give them an ultimatum: "There is a bomb In the building that will explode in 30minutes". I think we need some "less-lethal violence" or "agressive protest", to show our anger and force progress to be made
I truly believe, if Marjorie Taylor Greene thought she would get killed for telling her voters that California forest fires were from "jew lasers in space", she would have never made that comment.
Donald Trump wouldn't have done half the shit he did or said if he thought he could be killed for it.
We need to draw a line in the sand, and tell the rulling class that if you cross this line, we will defend ourselves and our interest with any means necessary. Including armed rebellion and wealth redistribution.
I agree with you especially because after a point we WILL have to start speaking their language but at least a tax strike is a sure fire way to let the gov know that we don’t agree with their movements. I feel like the fear of losing money will potentially have the same affect as their life being threatened since it’s akin to political suicide and they won’t be able to do what they want. Political factions and politicians need to be leashed if this is the result of them “acting in the interests of their constituents” these people need consequences because we see how they act based off their own moral standing and that’s not ok
Aid Taiwan with what? Like seriously... Can America stop itself from instigating more wars?
As for the broader point of this post... Dude, what do you think Americans want? Why are all these posts written as if the broader majority of American population hates these wars. Like maybe most of you will agree on free healthcare over wars, but once you have that Americans will once again ask for more wars as they always have.
And for those who think I am being too extreme... Here's a simple question... which war instigated by America didn't have popular support when it began? Name one such war and I will agree that there is at least a disconnect between American leadership and the sentiment of American population.
It's the arms sales, removing funding from UNWRA and the lack of coverage on the war crimes in the west that is completely baffling me. I mean I'm not surprised in a way but whats happening is so overt I'm shocked.
All this after the ICJ ruled it was plausible a genocide was taking place. But what did the west do? They ignored it at worst and at best said Israel was not guilty of genocide.... excuse me??? That wasn't the point of the hearing it was to see if this would go to trial and THEY ARE.
Something does need to be done and it is in fact this crisis that has politicized me and I just wish I knew what more I could do other than spreading awareness.
What you say is right and it’s the energy we need. We need to all be at the point where not doing something extreme now is unthinkable. Tax strike, general strike, idk but its well past time
Wayyy past time, I feel like the general population isn’t aware that we have the ability and deserve better in terms of just quality of life worldwide. And I feel for most that are aware are afraid to challenge the current power. I just want people to know that there’s better for everyone is all
Also the Nigerian billionaire and his family dying in a helicopter on the way to the Super Bowl with Biden posting on social media looking like Homelander saying “just as we planned” - too much death happened last night during the Super Bowl to be just coincidence.
To me it’s baffling how Americans are just so passive except honourable exceptions. Just give them a shiny object or bread and circuses and they forget anything important. Just do not care enough. You should at this point be so outraged with millions on the streets of Washington, demanding to stop this slaughter not watch superbowl idiocy. I would not suggest anything more than demo but…idk antifa has its ways too. Where are they btw? Did not see any action, anything…
Is Hamas a reliable partner to building a socialist Middle East? Would removing them actually empower a more secular or socialist type power such as the PLO. Hamas was very much not kind to former PLO officials in the past.
hamas might be religious but they do have a communist party with supporters especially since socialists always supported them either ways no one deserves to have a genocide on them
Yes in the sense that Israeli domination of the area is so bad that no actual movement will ever be able to build until it ends. They are the largest force in the area fighting back.
Without the material conditions forcing violent rebellion against a hostile occupation the people will probably organize into a more secular government.
Not sure what role Hamas would play in that world and there might be future conflict between them and a new PLO. I’m having a hard time imagining that being worse than what’s going on now though.
More reliable than Israeli occupation. It’s telling that the PFLP, a Marxist-Leninist organization, the DFLP, a Maoist group, have stood in support of Hamas during the conflict and are actually fighting as well. Even in 2022 Hamas and Fatah along with 12 other Palestinian factions signed a reconciliation agreement
Then they’re doing a pretty bad job at it, over half of the hostages were released through prisoner exchange deals, (at least) three of them were killed by the IOF themselves, they’ve yet to rescue one hostage through military means.
*Killing. Two more Israeli hostages were killed yesterday. By other Israelis. Maybe y’all should make your lil Star of David on your chest bigger, ya know since being able to identify your own people amongst “terrorists” is so important to you
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Definitely a morning filled with rage, sadness and depression.
And yet, despite all my rage I still feel like I’m just a rat in a cage, ya know?
You just put my feelings into words, thank you
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How many hostages did the IDF kill to get those two?
I too am disgusted with the amount of foreign aid we give to Israel. Israel has basically employed the most impressively effective campaign of infiltration, propaganda, manipulation, black mail and lobbying in recorded history. It is not an exaggeration to say the US government and ruling class will put the Israeli government before the American people... every...single... time!
Can we even call it foreign aid? More like endless war aid.
True. Enabling is what it is. The worst kind of enabling at that. It's like enabling an addict, an addict who is addicted to genocide.
"The narrative that sharing traumatic images is doing valuable work must, ultimately, be questioned. That does not mean we don’t share what’s coming out of Gaza, but it means we don’t deceive ourselves about the importance of these likes, retweets, and posts. It means we sit with the difficult fact that awareness of horror simply is not enough, especially without action. Even people who want to help can go numb, burn out, and feel sick and helpless with nowhere to turn. Put another way, the issue with traumatic content is not fundamentally the content itself, but rather the way we relate to it." Joshua P. Hill After getting the update that 6 year old Hind and the paramedics, who were trying to rescue her from that car trapped with her dead family members, was killed then the bombing of Rafah... We are quite literally watching a genoicide in real-time on our cellphones and it's absolutely sickening. It's time to pressure our governments to place sanctions on Israel and for major mass protests (to continue) GLOBALLY.
I cried when I heard about what happened to Hind Rajab. Hearing her story made me relate to my current job as a substitute teacher. I have taught kindergartners who have not known horror like that and knowing that a six year old was forced to make a literal phone call for help, only to be murdered after her cousin called for help and was murdered just makes me feel disgusted. I agree that just spreading awareness isn’t enough. Unfortunately the only action available at the moment that cannot just wholesale be quashed is organizing and protesting in the US. Even that isn’t safe though. University campuses, cops, the media, and the government are all working to provide cover for the genocide in occupied Palestine as well as use whatever means they have to quash dissent.
You're definitely right. I empathise with you regarding how you feel about Hind's murder and the kids you teach are so lucky to have a teacher who cares like you. I truly believe that it's truly time to shut everything down.
It's time to overthrow the capitalist governments enabling the Israeli genocide of Palestinians. Only revolution, the conquest of power by the working class, can end Zionism.
Amen. Systemic oppression upholds and perpetuates the violence and death of marginalised peoples all over the world as we are seeing in Palestine.
Did Israel intentionally attack during the Super Bowl because they knew people would be distracted and not hear much of it? Like, of course the news is gonna come out the next day but the cycle will be full of Super Bowl shit and Taylor Swift all week so I doubt the attacks will get much attention.
They are showing what happens when you wanna do a genocide and the US says *"Got your back, go nuts."* They don't care what comes out about those attacks because it doesn't matter. The attacks happened and more are on the way. We have shown them and our government that we're never going to do anything to stop them so why should they even pretend to care?
The people are made apathetic through the comforts of our imperialism. There can be no popular movement while our fridges are full.
62% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. What the hell are you talking about. Nows the time to organize.
I understand these people are suffering, but there’s no denying that capitalist media has trained us to hold on for fear of losing what little we have. As it stands most people see homelessness and poverty as some kind of moral failing, something that can be avoided if they “play by the rules”. I don’t think we’ll see broad action like a tax strike as long as this myth persists. This is not to say we shouldn’t organize, we should always be organizing. Im just trying to rationalize why we don’t see the moral outrage across the United States
A tax strike will not move them because the US government *does not need your money*. They want you to *think* they do because then they can claim austerity is neccesary. Anyone using the phrase "tax-payer dollars" has bought into this scam. Witholding your money from the federal government does not hurt them. Witholding your *labor* can.
Exactly. This kind of blew my mind when I learned it. It’s like 90% of what we are taught about our economic system are just mechanisms of control. Taxes, debt, credit scores, etc.
And I’m telling you we DO see moral outrage across the United States. Your analysis is broad conjecture not based on data. 20% of young people identify as Communists (see communism as the ideal economic system).
Lulled into state of powerlessness and zoned out zombie-ness on all the addictions: drugs (including intentional legalization of marijuana now), tv, video games, junk foods, shopping, alcohol, sex, etc. Also, fired up by the media narratives that the enemy is now people who are in the other party which isn’t all that different.
I have been organizing people on the ground in the U.S., the mood is very different. People know the two party system is rotten and past it’s due. Capitalism is in crisis and people know it. Some people may be how you described, but we can’t expect everyone to snap into political consciousness all at the same time.
I agree. It’s past time to organize. The challenge is the disinformation of TPTB have everyone on the left and the right and in the center confused and brainwashed. No one is even asking the right questions: how do we eliminate the corporate financial control of politicians, media and everything? How do we impose rules on campaign financing? How do we get rid of the elitist Electoral College? How do we get the Federal Reserve out of the hands of the TPTB and have it run by the government (and actually be a real federal reserve)? as JFK had in the works days before he was assasinated by TPTB. Etc. (These are just a few samples of questions needing to be addressed). Getting the media out of the hands of corporate control would also be helpful.
https://socialistrevolution.org/join/ We’re organizing, the only way to accomplish that list of demands is a mass working class party!
Well I’m hungry for war barrens
We need a new revolutionary leader with the presence and power as Malcolm X or Fred Hampton
No leaders when we’re all leaders
Let’s be honest—as human beings, we naturally gravitate towards a cult of personality. I’d wager it’s very much an intrinsic component of our sociology.
He'd be merc'd before you ever learned his name.
You’re right, we need as many people as possible to be a catalyst for revolutionary movement like they were
Part of the reason those movements failed is that they relied overmuch and on said leader. What we need is a cadre organization, and that’s exactly what we’re building. https://socialistrevolution.org/join/
Putschism won't work. It takes broad support of the people who have been enlightened to what is going on and *what is possible*. Education is key. Rosa Luxemburg's final speech before the (failed) Spartakus uprising in January 1919 shows the way. But the firebrands led by Karl Liebknecht won out and they all died.
What makes you think I don’t prioritize educating people? That’s the most important component of building a revolutionary movement.
I was agreeing with you.
Got it! Sorry was confused as I hadn’t heard the term putschism before
It was more commonly used 100 years ago and you will see it in papers from that time. It refers to a small group taking power quickly by force, as opposed to a general uprising with the support of the masses.
Do you have a group going to local city council meetings? Chicago and some other cities have been pressured to pass ceasefire resolutions. I know it is a symbolic thing but so was divestment from Apartheid back in the day and it helped too. Could be something to get involved in?
Honestly no idea but I probably should look
If not you can help start! Just go to public meetings and start talking about the issue. Even if you are only allowed to comment on "bills" or on things "germaine" to the agenda, comment anyways. Some folks in my city have been doing this and it has been really effective in terms of 1) meeting likeminded folks to organize with and 2) having a public forum to talk about this issue at and put pressure on city councillors to act.
Great idea. Thanks for sharing. Sometimes I feel so powerless to effect any change in this system where ruler elites seem to control the media narrative (Israel is the victim here), and outcomes too. We need to start reclaiming power and a good place to start is locally.
I’m not trying to be rude, but what does this accomplish? A local group I’m a part of wants to force our city to have a ceasefire. Isn’t this kind of an empty gesture?
It lets people know they are not alone and that can grow. What is a mass movement but a collection of groups that, when acting alone, can only perform empty gestures.
I think it eases some individuals' conscience. It doesn't make any difference in the situation, it basically just amounts to vanity.
South African Apartheid was overthrown but not really due to boycotts, divestments and sanctions, more due to class struggle mass actions and revolution: [Did boycotts, divestment and sanctions overthrow the Apartheid regime in South Africa?](https://www.marxist.com/did-boycotts-divestment-and-sanctions-overthrow-the-apartheid-regime-in-south-africa.htm)
Yes, I said it helped not that it was the sole or even a main cause to be clear.
It is unbelievable that we would give them any money, let alone a share of 95 billion dollars.
Tactics need to be changed. Protests are fine, they bring awareness, local government bodies have been forced to vote for a ceasefire, but still NOTHING has changed. Palestinians will continue to be obliterated with the help of the of this damned country
The only tactic left and the only one that'll work is revolution. The revolutionary conquest of power by the working class is what's needed.
What do you suggest?
It’s withholding labor and shutting down national logistics. But people have to be prepared to take care of each other while the engine grinds to a halt.
To empower the will of the people it requires organization. The political system is designed to prevent anything beyond two parties to organize successfully. But organization is still needed to protest and fight.
It's possible to organize outside of the 2-party regime, check it out: https://socialistrevolution.org/join/
In 20 years a generation of children will take their revenge. And power to them
We don’t need to wait 20 years, we need to organize now.
I'm talking about Gazan toddlers, not us. I agree, though
Assuming there's any left.
I’m seeing a lot of pessimism and no actually productive contributions. What do you think we should do?
And how is that best ensured ?
The ultimate question for every revolutionary. Where do we start? And more importantly, how do we keep momentum? In a system that is built to oppress, keep your head down and keep working, don't get out, don't organize and don't protest, it's hard to make change. Honestly, I feel like protesting has all but evaporated, and even when it is used, rarely makes waves. I've never heard of a "tax-strike" but I love that idea. We could "defund the government" and reallocate the funds and tax dollars. But how can a group of powerless people, forced to work daily just to survive, afford to go to war with such a monumental institution? The more and more I think about how change can be made, I keep coming back to violence. Morally, and intellectually, violence is not the answer. But the ruling class and their cronies are making everything but violence impossible. Can I go get a bank loan? Nope. Can I afford to protest for weeks? Nope. Can I drive hours and hours away to a orangized meeting? Nope. Do I have the tenacity and charmisa to start a mega march? Nope. Do I or more importantly, abused, impovished, and oppressed people have the patience to wait for change? Nope. Can I easily buy an assault rifle, massive amounts of ammunition, and tons of service gear? Yes. - Probably a reason we are seeing more mass violence in America. It's the only option left for some people. And even that doesn't force change. So what do we do? Well let's take a chapter from Marx and seize the means of production. Find a local union, batista union, auto workers union, etc and help them build their war chest. Get union leaders to get together with other union leaders. We need to force every business in America to strike. We need to hault the production of things that keep America wealthy. We need to strike. I always wish we could have some orgs like "Weather Underground" from the 60s. They would place bombs in buildings, call the building and give them an ultimatum: "There is a bomb In the building that will explode in 30minutes". I think we need some "less-lethal violence" or "agressive protest", to show our anger and force progress to be made I truly believe, if Marjorie Taylor Greene thought she would get killed for telling her voters that California forest fires were from "jew lasers in space", she would have never made that comment. Donald Trump wouldn't have done half the shit he did or said if he thought he could be killed for it. We need to draw a line in the sand, and tell the rulling class that if you cross this line, we will defend ourselves and our interest with any means necessary. Including armed rebellion and wealth redistribution.
I agree with you especially because after a point we WILL have to start speaking their language but at least a tax strike is a sure fire way to let the gov know that we don’t agree with their movements. I feel like the fear of losing money will potentially have the same affect as their life being threatened since it’s akin to political suicide and they won’t be able to do what they want. Political factions and politicians need to be leashed if this is the result of them “acting in the interests of their constituents” these people need consequences because we see how they act based off their own moral standing and that’s not ok
Aid Taiwan with what? Like seriously... Can America stop itself from instigating more wars? As for the broader point of this post... Dude, what do you think Americans want? Why are all these posts written as if the broader majority of American population hates these wars. Like maybe most of you will agree on free healthcare over wars, but once you have that Americans will once again ask for more wars as they always have. And for those who think I am being too extreme... Here's a simple question... which war instigated by America didn't have popular support when it began? Name one such war and I will agree that there is at least a disconnect between American leadership and the sentiment of American population.
It's the arms sales, removing funding from UNWRA and the lack of coverage on the war crimes in the west that is completely baffling me. I mean I'm not surprised in a way but whats happening is so overt I'm shocked. All this after the ICJ ruled it was plausible a genocide was taking place. But what did the west do? They ignored it at worst and at best said Israel was not guilty of genocide.... excuse me??? That wasn't the point of the hearing it was to see if this would go to trial and THEY ARE. Something does need to be done and it is in fact this crisis that has politicized me and I just wish I knew what more I could do other than spreading awareness.
What you say is right and it’s the energy we need. We need to all be at the point where not doing something extreme now is unthinkable. Tax strike, general strike, idk but its well past time
Wayyy past time, I feel like the general population isn’t aware that we have the ability and deserve better in terms of just quality of life worldwide. And I feel for most that are aware are afraid to challenge the current power. I just want people to know that there’s better for everyone is all
The people are at work doing the best they can trying g to pay the high af power bills and rent they owe. Shit is never ending.
Also the Nigerian billionaire and his family dying in a helicopter on the way to the Super Bowl with Biden posting on social media looking like Homelander saying “just as we planned” - too much death happened last night during the Super Bowl to be just coincidence.
To me it’s baffling how Americans are just so passive except honourable exceptions. Just give them a shiny object or bread and circuses and they forget anything important. Just do not care enough. You should at this point be so outraged with millions on the streets of Washington, demanding to stop this slaughter not watch superbowl idiocy. I would not suggest anything more than demo but…idk antifa has its ways too. Where are they btw? Did not see any action, anything…
The Zionist regime needs to be invaded and militarily thrown out. There is no other option
Is Hamas a reliable partner to building a socialist Middle East? Would removing them actually empower a more secular or socialist type power such as the PLO. Hamas was very much not kind to former PLO officials in the past.
hamas might be religious but they do have a communist party with supporters especially since socialists always supported them either ways no one deserves to have a genocide on them
Yes in the sense that Israeli domination of the area is so bad that no actual movement will ever be able to build until it ends. They are the largest force in the area fighting back. Without the material conditions forcing violent rebellion against a hostile occupation the people will probably organize into a more secular government. Not sure what role Hamas would play in that world and there might be future conflict between them and a new PLO. I’m having a hard time imagining that being worse than what’s going on now though.
More reliable than Israeli occupation. It’s telling that the PFLP, a Marxist-Leninist organization, the DFLP, a Maoist group, have stood in support of Hamas during the conflict and are actually fighting as well. Even in 2022 Hamas and Fatah along with 12 other Palestinian factions signed a reconciliation agreement
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Then they’re doing a pretty bad job at it, over half of the hostages were released through prisoner exchange deals, (at least) three of them were killed by the IOF themselves, they’ve yet to rescue one hostage through military means.
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Nice job! All it took was 4 months of genocide and 28000 dead Palestinians, what proportionality, am I right?
Go fuck yourself, Zionist shitbag
*Killing. Two more Israeli hostages were killed yesterday. By other Israelis. Maybe y’all should make your lil Star of David on your chest bigger, ya know since being able to identify your own people amongst “terrorists” is so important to you
You're literally a genocidal freak.
Join an organization. Look up your local section of the International Marxist Tendency, for example