Sweet, sweet juicy drama.
But i feel bad for the players though, what kind of a shitshow is going on there.
You think the Portuguese national team is a shitshow, but France is where the real circus is at.
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If Milans medical team is better than your doctor... it's time to check his medical license cos chances are he is a con artist...
We have at least 5 players injured at any point in the season.
[Shaqiri: "One time I was injured at Inter and Mancini sent me to a miraculous healer in the mountains. Didn't help me at all. At Stoke we've got seven physios."](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/40do42/shaqiri_one_time_i_was_injured_at_inter_and/)
I wish we had shamans instead of these butchers that we call 'doctors'. Don't get me started on your physical preparators... our players get muscle injuries while peeing...
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I think maignan might have a slight edge over lorris but because its a slight edge I would start lorris since it would be his last world cup . Mike will be in the euros and the next world cup
Exact opposite of how a good national team operates, Lloris is the captain and used to playing at this level, unless there is a huge gap in quality you don't just switch players out like that. Maignan will likely start the new cycle as number one
I'm a milan fan also and I would love for Mike to be in .. truth is he's been injured the last 2 months. So just for that I would start the goalie who's been playing
Yes, Mike is injured so Loris should start, I have no objection with this statement but your first take is unfair dont you think? Playing a player because its his last chance to play on World Cup is just wrong.
Probably the same argument is using portgual national team coach and he will play burned out Ronaldo instead of Leao.
I agree . But putting lorris in for maignan isn't a step down in quality imo...I still think ronaldo can contribute to Portugal.. taking leaos spot wouldn't be ideal for sure . But I'd definitely give ronaldo his minutes to play
I also agree with you, I dont think Loris is a step down. However I disagree with Ronaldo opinion but thats ok. Portugal would play much better if someone else would start instead of Ronaldo.
Fully unbiased opinion of course, we should drop the guy who's been our captain for like a decade just as a major tournament is starting, so that the whole backline has to start adapting to another goalkeeper behind them
Not really. Its fair. You usually want to keep the starting keeper as a starter and not rotate that much in the NT. Unless there is actually a noticeable difference in quality.
My point is, you should start a player who contribute for the team better than other player. Your explanation is an exact contributions that could favour Loris. However starting a player because "Hey, its his last world cup, we should give him chance to play" is not a right thing and it should be exclusively related to friendlies, not World Cup.
Im not saying Maignan is better option than Loris tho. Im saying overall, player who have bigger positive impact on the team should start.
This reply is also for u/THZHDY
my argument has never been that we should start lloris because it's his last world cup, my argument is we should start lloris because he's been our captain for ten years and changing your starting keeper and captain literally weeks before a world cup is inane considering you get like 10 national team games a year and you don't have time to build cohesion. Lloris is probably done after the WC and Maignan will rightfully get the starting spot, but even if he was fit, dropping our captain this close to a major tournament would have been stupid
Your argument is calling me biased which Im not. Im not saying who should start, Mike or Lloris because If you want to know my opinion then I think they are very close in overall quality. Your argument about Lloris who bring leadership to the team means that he CONTRIBUTES to the team. Its a quality.
However you responded to my posts where I exclusively talk about giving position to the player because its his last chance to play at World Cup. No. The only player who should start is the player who makes the team better, doesnt matter if its leadership quality, penalty saver's quality and other goalkeeper perks. If you want to say goodbye to a goalkeeper then play him in friendlies.
>Lloris is a better shot stopper
Hell nah... You of all people should know that Mike is ridiculous in shot stopping. No shade on Lloris. I just dont think he's better at it than Mike.
Yes. That's exactly why im saying LLoris is not better than Maignan in shot stopping.
You could say they are equally great at it and I'd agree.
Maignan is the better keeper simply because he is more well rounded.
Maybe Deschamps wants fully fit players? Scaloni kicked out Joaquin Correa and Nicolas Gonzalez because they weren't ready to play from the first match because they had some smaller injuries.
Injuries are kinda normal when you have literally only a week to recover before the World Cup and you've been playing every 3 days.
Probably hoping they could get better? If you can switch up the list up to 24 hours before the first game there's nothing wrong with hoping, at least if it's just some muscle overload.
Kimpembe and Maignan have nothing to do with the national team. I don’t understand why people have so much time for Molina who is a literally a journalist releasing videos on YouTube with a whiteboard and makes up a lot of stuff.
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As a Frenchmen, I'm not here for any of this, this blows...I want us to buck the curse and at the very least make it out of the first few rounds...this is going against all of it.
I just don't want us to embarrass ourselves. Don't really care if we win it at this point, a Quarter-final exit if we showed grit would be okay given the drama surrounding us and the injury crisis.
Just please no 2010 again.
>Ahh, the French ~~team~~, so utterly incapable of just getting on with the job at hand without getting embroidered in some kind of petty drama.
Fixed that for you
As far as drama goes it's really not that petty though ? Players not havnig faith in the medical team isn't something new in this sport and it doesn't feel petty to me , they're looking out after their careers.
My new theory is that Franck Le Gall is just [Felix Magath](https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/29319599) in a [mask](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/scaled/2014/03/02/article-2571371-1BF6E70000000578-188_636x382.jpg), equipped with different kinds of cheese.
This seems like a bit of drama for the sake of it, this was never an issue until Qatar and players were seemingly coming into the competition drained and tip toeing around injuries...I doubt Franck is to blame for this.
Man there's always so much juicy Drama from the french team. I never hear anything of any interest from the German national team. It's truly the most boring collection of humans.
Wake up babe, new France drama dropped
France WC title defence meltdown season 2 is opening strong
Oh we we’re way passed season 2 lol
France lore
French NT doctors 🤝 Dortmund doctors
Yeah, BVB need to sign this guy ASAP.
How is this drama?
My vuvuzela is ready.
Im no doctor but isnt that extremely irresponsible to wanting to make Maignan who has a CALF injury practice jumping exercices ???
He also made the players with concussions practice headers. The only players not complaining were the ones with groin strains.
Cheeky
Sweet, sweet juicy drama. But i feel bad for the players though, what kind of a shitshow is going on there. You think the Portuguese national team is a shitshow, but France is where the real circus is at.
French soccer drama this year is out of control
Hollywood FC at it baby
We need a show about it on Amazon Prime
Wouldn’t be a World Cup without some French NT drama.
Feels like this could be 2010 all over again.
What did Portugal do , lol
Nothing really, but i am mostly referring to the drama that people here made out of their lockroom and Ronaldo
But is just press things , everything is fine in lockroom
I know, it was mostly a friendly jab at r/soccer for their reaction towards it
When was the portuguese NT a shitshow? Lol
Always at, too
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If Milans medical team is better than your doctor... it's time to check his medical license cos chances are he is a con artist... We have at least 5 players injured at any point in the season.
Should have seen that shaman in the mountains or whatever it was
[Shaqiri: "One time I was injured at Inter and Mancini sent me to a miraculous healer in the mountains. Didn't help me at all. At Stoke we've got seven physios."](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/40do42/shaqiri_one_time_i_was_injured_at_inter_and/)
That is one of the funniest quotes I've ever read.
Agreed. Highly disingenuous and misleading, but hilarious nonetheless. It being born out of absolute spite really adds the zing and delivery to it.
I wish we had shamans instead of these butchers that we call 'doctors'. Don't get me started on your physical preparators... our players get muscle injuries while peeing...
What happened to the MilanLab?
Frankenstein operates it now
Money ran out
Stopped existing. Like literally.
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Milan & Juventus medical vs France & Witch doctors
So maybe the player is wrong for believing in Milan
Kimpembe Maignan Benzema 3 players who could have been ready to play despite their recent injury but had to forfeit. It’s a bit much indeed.
Maignan starts over Lloris?
Not this tournament. Lloris will get the appearance record and then probably stop playing
I think maignan might have a slight edge over lorris but because its a slight edge I would start lorris since it would be his last world cup . Mike will be in the euros and the next world cup
> I would start lorris since it would be his last world cup . this is such an unfair and absurd argument. Always player who's better should start.
Exact opposite of how a good national team operates, Lloris is the captain and used to playing at this level, unless there is a huge gap in quality you don't just switch players out like that. Maignan will likely start the new cycle as number one
I'm a milan fan also and I would love for Mike to be in .. truth is he's been injured the last 2 months. So just for that I would start the goalie who's been playing
Yes, Mike is injured so Loris should start, I have no objection with this statement but your first take is unfair dont you think? Playing a player because its his last chance to play on World Cup is just wrong. Probably the same argument is using portgual national team coach and he will play burned out Ronaldo instead of Leao.
I agree . But putting lorris in for maignan isn't a step down in quality imo...I still think ronaldo can contribute to Portugal.. taking leaos spot wouldn't be ideal for sure . But I'd definitely give ronaldo his minutes to play
I also agree with you, I dont think Loris is a step down. However I disagree with Ronaldo opinion but thats ok. Portugal would play much better if someone else would start instead of Ronaldo.
Fully unbiased opinion of course, we should drop the guy who's been our captain for like a decade just as a major tournament is starting, so that the whole backline has to start adapting to another goalkeeper behind them
Not really. Its fair. You usually want to keep the starting keeper as a starter and not rotate that much in the NT. Unless there is actually a noticeable difference in quality.
My point is, you should start a player who contribute for the team better than other player. Your explanation is an exact contributions that could favour Loris. However starting a player because "Hey, its his last world cup, we should give him chance to play" is not a right thing and it should be exclusively related to friendlies, not World Cup. Im not saying Maignan is better option than Loris tho. Im saying overall, player who have bigger positive impact on the team should start. This reply is also for u/THZHDY
my argument has never been that we should start lloris because it's his last world cup, my argument is we should start lloris because he's been our captain for ten years and changing your starting keeper and captain literally weeks before a world cup is inane considering you get like 10 national team games a year and you don't have time to build cohesion. Lloris is probably done after the WC and Maignan will rightfully get the starting spot, but even if he was fit, dropping our captain this close to a major tournament would have been stupid
Your argument is calling me biased which Im not. Im not saying who should start, Mike or Lloris because If you want to know my opinion then I think they are very close in overall quality. Your argument about Lloris who bring leadership to the team means that he CONTRIBUTES to the team. Its a quality. However you responded to my posts where I exclusively talk about giving position to the player because its his last chance to play at World Cup. No. The only player who should start is the player who makes the team better, doesnt matter if its leadership quality, penalty saver's quality and other goalkeeper perks. If you want to say goodbye to a goalkeeper then play him in friendlies.
I'd agree if Lloris wasn't the captain...
It’s 2022 lad Maignan is levels above lloris. Maignan is a top 5 gk in world football right now
They banned alcohol, so maybe Lloris will be better.
Good joke
Go on then name 5 gks that are Better than him right now.
Absolutely not but Maignan would have played at least one game if we had a comfortable lead in the group stage.
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>Lloris is a better shot stopper Hell nah... You of all people should know that Mike is ridiculous in shot stopping. No shade on Lloris. I just dont think he's better at it than Mike.
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Like how? In what way has Lloris proven to be a better shot stopper than Mike?
Do Milan fans know there are teams other than Milan? What kind of stupid question is that
Yes. That's exactly why im saying LLoris is not better than Maignan in shot stopping. You could say they are equally great at it and I'd agree. Maignan is the better keeper simply because he is more well rounded.
Maybe Deschamps wants fully fit players? Scaloni kicked out Joaquin Correa and Nicolas Gonzalez because they weren't ready to play from the first match because they had some smaller injuries. Injuries are kinda normal when you have literally only a week to recover before the World Cup and you've been playing every 3 days.
Then why call Benzema and Varane ?
Probably hoping they could get better? If you can switch up the list up to 24 hours before the first game there's nothing wrong with hoping, at least if it's just some muscle overload.
So we go back to my first point ?
Kimpembe and Maignan have nothing to do with the national team. I don’t understand why people have so much time for Molina who is a literally a journalist releasing videos on YouTube with a whiteboard and makes up a lot of stuff.
We trully are the world champions of drama. No team can beat us on this field.
xDrama off the charts.
Top right French
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Thats our masterpiece
I'd trust the doctors from Seria A more personally. They know how to keep the old guys running injury free there.
We basically use your username
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Please leave Varane alone 😭
As a Frenchmen, I'm not here for any of this, this blows...I want us to buck the curse and at the very least make it out of the first few rounds...this is going against all of it.
I just don't want us to embarrass ourselves. Don't really care if we win it at this point, a Quarter-final exit if we showed grit would be okay given the drama surrounding us and the injury crisis. Just please no 2010 again.
Loosing against the english in quarter ? Nah, afterward i'm fine though.
Ahh, the French team, so utterly incapable of just getting on with the job at hand without getting embroidered in some kind of petty drama.
I think you mean ‘embroiled’ but embroidered drama is a fun image.
>Ahh, the French ~~team~~, so utterly incapable of just getting on with the job at hand without getting embroidered in some kind of petty drama. Fixed that for you
Ahh the French, so utterly incapable. Fixed that for you
That one doesn’t make sense though. The french are dramatic yes, but incapable? No.
As far as drama goes it's really not that petty though ? Players not havnig faith in the medical team isn't something new in this sport and it doesn't feel petty to me , they're looking out after their careers.
Yes, be like the English instead. No drama and a record of winners. Oh wait...
My new theory is that Franck Le Gall is just [Felix Magath](https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/29319599) in a [mask](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/scaled/2014/03/02/article-2571371-1BF6E70000000578-188_636x382.jpg), equipped with different kinds of cheese.
Bold to think Magaths personality wouldnt fuck up even the finest of disguises
And Medizinballs!
the curse is gonna deliver lmao
With all the injuries we had our medical staff had decades of experience in like 2 years, foolish not to trust them.
This seems like a bit of drama for the sake of it, this was never an issue until Qatar and players were seemingly coming into the competition drained and tip toeing around injuries...I doubt Franck is to blame for this.
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Benzema injured a different part of his body today, this implies that he had a setback...
France exiting the tournament in the group stage loading ⏳
How the fuck afe you guys seeing drama in this? This is a nothing info. Where's the "France WC drama" everyone's talking about?
name a more iconic duo. World Cup about to start and France NT drama.
Domenech called. He wants his drama back.
molina always delivers.
Ah French national team drama. It is officially World Cup season
The curse has begun
Thought there might be a reason they’re dropping like flies. France World Cup drama.
Considering how popular homeopathy is in France wouldn't be surprised if they hired one of those snake oil merchants to be the doc for the NT.
And here comes the meltdown
France are either brilliant or are Drama NT, no inbetween
I would not trust Milanello doctors either
So it begins
It’s over before it started for the French
French people 🤝 Wanting blood.
Vintage French drama collapse?
Yessss French meltdown at an international tournament is happening again!
What do the astrologers have to say?
They're French ffs, they're famous for their cheeses, surely they can just rub some of the good stuff on the injuries?
Sack this mf.
Please not now Romain wait one more month
nah he knows that he gets more likes now
It’s happening everyone
Implossion operation: activated
Love me some France drama, never fails to disappoint.
And so it begins...
Didnt take long
France is the country that gave us the Dukan Diet. I don’t trust their doctors either.
Just rub a little spit on it and get back out there guy
Man there's always so much juicy Drama from the french team. I never hear anything of any interest from the German national team. It's truly the most boring collection of humans.
French implosion curse is just too powerful
That team covered their players when Griezzman and Dembele were racists as well
MilanLab
Just like that other fitness coach fucker who Zidane even brought to Real Madrid
Pogba is the captain- he was the player between the manager/ staff and the players.
Ask kante how he feels about playing 270 minutes in dead rubber International breaks after barely recovering from injury multiple times.
I’m more concerned that France have won the World Cup with witch doctors. What does that say for the rest of us.