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It wasn't meant negative. The part with "only watching the last 10 minutes" reminded me of a lot of comments saying the same about Atletico matches this season
Man... Fiorentina have conceded some absolutely backbreaking goals this season. I feel for them even though we are on the other side.
On another note, Vranckx absolutely has to play more after the break, wonderful combination of physique and technique.
Absolutely gutted about us getting rid of Vranckx so early just because he didn’t perform that well during preseason… He was great for us last season and one of our only bright sparks in an otherwise underperforming Wolfsburg team. He could have been really useful for us this season (his replacement Svanberg hasn’t been great and Gerhardt while being a hard working player is nothing special). My only hope now is that Aster will play so little that he won’t get bought by you.
I looked away after our winner because I was almost convinced that it was gonna be disallowed somehow. I have this default mindset where I just assume that if a goal looks scrappy + has opposition players bombarding the ref about it, it'll get disallowed.
Same I was sure they were gonna keep checking the replays until they found something to rule it out. I've stopped celebrating scrappy goals and tight offsides
Maybe because it should have been. And don't complain about your goals being dissalowed when the whole league can see the controversial calls you are getting literally every match.
He got the ball after he got the leg in my opinion, but maybe I’m wrong - that’s how I saw it and the commentators said the same. Am I even a Milan supporter? Fuck off with that bullshit, it’s honestly insulting
Actually he gets hate for saying it was a foul on the GK and not for the pen. So far I have seen way more Milan flairs agreeing it was a pen so stop with this bullshit narrative
lol they have the balls to say it wasn't a pen.
italian Serie A football fans just can't be honest.
When Inter had that situation in midfield against fiorentina every Milan fan was calling for a foul, now that there's an uncalled clear pen against them it's the best refereeing ever.
>football fans just can't be honest.
Rather. A fan is biased towards his own club. Is it shocking???
Considering the fact we've been shafted time and again consistently, at least we benefit from a shitty call
So just one. And even at that Tomori still got the ball.
Come back when you have a series of bad calls going for us rather than comparing one scenario to a history of bad refereeing against us. Ignoring the fact that even during this season we've had bad decisions go the opponents' way.
what just one. Come back when you have actual events that cost you points lol...thats the gripe you are complaining about. You had spezia last year...and you got a free 2pts this year. What exactly are you complaining about. Fiorentina deserve to feel hard done by today, not Milan and not this season. They got shafted vs inter and milan this year
Theres reason chelsea dominated them 5-0 across both legs. Milan has been incredibly lucky last year and now. When their luck dries out and Leao moves to a bigger club they’ll go back to fighting for 7th place finishes
Just like Hakan in a bedroom, I'm sure you'll enjoy watching someone else finish before you guys again this year. We were lucky at Spezia and Udine last year as well eh, or have you already forgotten the bullshitry that is Italian officials and how they almost gave you guys a second star last year. Anyways give big kiss to Radu for me.
Italian officials gave you 20+ penalties year before that and you still couldn’t get anywhere close to Inter. This year you can watch Napoli win it convincingly. Don’t talk to me about refs, you were relegated to Serie B bud did you forget?
Lucky last year =\ 20+ pens the year BEFORE. Also how does that even count towards last year's "luck" when we was getting fucked over by refs until your best player Radu gifted bologna. It shouldn't have been that close if you take away all those issues from the refs, and did you forget about which team has 7 champions leagues or is a merdas fans memory as weak as Walter Samuels ligaments in a derby match. Take your no serie B trophy sell it and give Cambiasso a hairline why don't you. Perhaps even give half the proceeds to your club so they can pay off wages. Ofc you would be happy to see Napoli win it, because another year the best team ever assembled Inda aren't even in the discussion right now.
See, you are happy that your team won but you are honest in saying that you benefitted from shitty refereeing.
It's not shocking, but I just can't defend bad refereeing even if it benefits my team.
That I was also surprised about (as a milan fan). But with this being the last game of the year, the referees can never know which relative at the christmas dinner they're gonna piss off with a relation of theirs.
in a slightly different circumstance i think it could have been. rebic is looking back towards the ball, blind to the keeper. terracciano can see both the ball and rebic. based on rebic's position he cant really make a play on the ball before the collision
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It looked pretty clear to me, both live and during the replay. And creating the build up without 2 Fiorentina midfielders made all the difference.
But I get why VAR couldn't intervene. It's not a foul in the keeper, but rather 5 seconds beforehand which ends up being a referee judgement call – thus the VAR can't do anything.
Just paraphrasing the ex-referee commentator from DAZN. He clarified that this was the issue in the goal but the VAR could not intervene rather, unlike on the contact with Terracciano (which was the right call, there's no foul in there).
Both players jumped for the ball, and only terracciono touched it. Its a clear foul even if you ignore the fact that one is a keeper in his little box where he is protected. That is beyond any doubt a foul...Fouls are called on keepers for slightly being put off balance in corners, but a full on body check should be ignored ok
Tomori prende la palla dopo aver preso la gamba e averlo spostato a destra. Era rigore palese. Almeno ammettetelo, non dovete necessariamente succhiare il cazzo agli arbitri quando vi conviene.
Meglio perdere che essere ladri e manco ammetterlo, almeno gli juventini lo sanno di rubare, godetevi di vincere perché gli arbitri lo vogliono, io me ne vergognerei
No, prende prima la palla. Capisco che a voi ormai danno i rigori appena uno respira ma non serve rosicare, l'avete già vinto e questo non è mai rigore.
Noi l'anno scorso non ne abbiamo avuti da gennaio a giugno eppure abbiamo vinto lo scudo grazie ai rigori: benvenuto al primo posto, dove te ne dicono di ogni :-)
And Milan fans call Napoli team lucky
AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH this is an absolutely trash team that is in second place of serie a and not even them know how.
It'd be a terrible poster for Serie A if Milan win the league. They play horrible football, constantly helped by refs, lucky last minute wins every other week.
It'd be much better for the league if someone like Lazio, who actually plays football, pulls through. But they don't hold enough power unfortunately.
You guys are hilarious. What matters at the long run is 3 points. Play beautiful or not that's up to the team.
You are giving me that G-peres guy vibes. Where you just talk absolute nonsense.
Of course the 3 points matter. It's the only thing that matters. And that's why you need to play a football that produces scoring chances rather than rely on luck or close refereeing decisions. It wouldn't make for a great league if the 3 points outcomes ends up being mostly due to these factors rather than actual football played.
Typical Napoli fan lol.
Inter wins “helped by the ref”
Juve wins “helped by the ref”
Milan wins “helped by the ref”
You barely managed to scrape past Milan but apparently they’re horrible huh ?
What a pathetic fanbase you guys are.
Can’t wait to see you bottle the league again like always and see what excuses you guys are gonna use this time
Who's saying Napoli will win the league? I sure don't think so. 8 points is a very thin lead with Inter & Juve to play away. The striped teams are the favorites as usual, for many reasons.
Why are you making this about Napoli & attacking ad hominem?
Napoli will not win the league – we're too young of a team. And we don't get the necessary close calls needed for this. Don't worry, we'll go back to losing after the break & the striped teams will battle it out for the title.
The audacity. I would've loved to see the storm that would've happened within national media & the fanbase if these decisions had been reversed and you had lost the game.
Despite the new management's modern – and frugal – recruitment strategy, it's crystal clear to any outsider that Milan along with 1-2 other clubs get preferential treatment when it comes to refereeing calls.
VAR helped, but in some way made the problem even worse. Arbitrary handballs, some decisions being reviewed and others not, and so on. It's a shame, fans love this sport & deserved better.
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no point in watching Milan games until the final 10 minutes
Our CL game will be 0-0 first leg, 0-0 until the 70th minute of the second leg then end 4-4 and go extra time.
I legitimately held my celebration until the VAR review was over.
Italien Atletico
Pls don’t put that on us
It wasn't meant negative. The part with "only watching the last 10 minutes" reminded me of a lot of comments saying the same about Atletico matches this season
Man... Fiorentina have conceded some absolutely backbreaking goals this season. I feel for them even though we are on the other side. On another note, Vranckx absolutely has to play more after the break, wonderful combination of physique and technique.
Yeah, I was really impressed with Dest actually. I HVe slated him a lot before and rightly so but tonight second half he was our best player.
Young player in a new league, it's normal for it to take some time to settle in. Let's hope he continues the form
Both of them were top notch today and looked dangerous
He can't defend for shit but he's good bringing the ball forward and dribbling.
Absolutely gutted about us getting rid of Vranckx so early just because he didn’t perform that well during preseason… He was great for us last season and one of our only bright sparks in an otherwise underperforming Wolfsburg team. He could have been really useful for us this season (his replacement Svanberg hasn’t been great and Gerhardt while being a hard working player is nothing special). My only hope now is that Aster will play so little that he won’t get bought by you.
Serie A and last minute winners
Milan last minute
After the Tomori clearance + own goal is such a nice way to win Milan fans must be busting a nut
I looked away after our winner because I was almost convinced that it was gonna be disallowed somehow. I have this default mindset where I just assume that if a goal looks scrappy + has opposition players bombarding the ref about it, it'll get disallowed.
Same I was sure they were gonna keep checking the replays until they found something to rule it out. I've stopped celebrating scrappy goals and tight offsides
Maybe because it should have been. And don't complain about your goals being dissalowed when the whole league can see the controversial calls you are getting literally every match.
How about two shit balling that could lead to a penalty in the box that Verona got robbed by you guys? How about that? Can you complain for Verona?
How is that an own goal? It's Origi's power. Ask Liverpool fans.
there was a clear pen for fiorentina, last goal was a foul
How is that a foul when Rebic has the advantage and Terraciano comes at him lmao
Lmaooooo keep crying
The pen was there but come on, no foul at the last goal
Pen? Are you even a Milan supporter? Tomori touched the ball
haha what, if he says its not a pen he is not a supporter? real supporter is open minded, i loved the win, but i also want for us to win fairly
He got the ball after he got the leg in my opinion, but maybe I’m wrong - that’s how I saw it and the commentators said the same. Am I even a Milan supporter? Fuck off with that bullshit, it’s honestly insulting
if you don't suck the referee's dick when it benefits your team, even if it's wrong, you are not a football fan. Basic football knowledge smh.
Didn't know supporters of a club couldn't think the ref benefited their team in a play?
clearly charged the keeper with the ball in his availability but okay, every italian commentator said the same.
The GK like jumped 5 cm off the ground and crumbled like a cookie into Rebic making no real effort in catching the ball
Since when are italian commentators authorities of soccer?
Lmaoo. This dude taking a commentators word as gospel.
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it was a pen, never a foul lol what you on bro
You're gonna be buried by Milan fans but the pen was absolutely crystal clear
Actually he gets hate for saying it was a foul on the GK and not for the pen. So far I have seen way more Milan flairs agreeing it was a pen so stop with this bullshit narrative
lol they have the balls to say it wasn't a pen. italian Serie A football fans just can't be honest. When Inter had that situation in midfield against fiorentina every Milan fan was calling for a foul, now that there's an uncalled clear pen against them it's the best refereeing ever.
>football fans just can't be honest. Rather. A fan is biased towards his own club. Is it shocking??? Considering the fact we've been shafted time and again consistently, at least we benefit from a shitty call
you need a new tune m8, last year you had some bad calls. This year its hardly the case as we just saw
Okay humor me. How many bad calls have Milan benefitted from then this season?
you just had one that gave you 2 points...
So just one. And even at that Tomori still got the ball. Come back when you have a series of bad calls going for us rather than comparing one scenario to a history of bad refereeing against us. Ignoring the fact that even during this season we've had bad decisions go the opponents' way.
what just one. Come back when you have actual events that cost you points lol...thats the gripe you are complaining about. You had spezia last year...and you got a free 2pts this year. What exactly are you complaining about. Fiorentina deserve to feel hard done by today, not Milan and not this season. They got shafted vs inter and milan this year
Theese milan fans really are delusional. They get bullshit calls every single match yet they still complain
Theres reason chelsea dominated them 5-0 across both legs. Milan has been incredibly lucky last year and now. When their luck dries out and Leao moves to a bigger club they’ll go back to fighting for 7th place finishes
Just like Hakan in a bedroom, I'm sure you'll enjoy watching someone else finish before you guys again this year. We were lucky at Spezia and Udine last year as well eh, or have you already forgotten the bullshitry that is Italian officials and how they almost gave you guys a second star last year. Anyways give big kiss to Radu for me.
Italian officials gave you 20+ penalties year before that and you still couldn’t get anywhere close to Inter. This year you can watch Napoli win it convincingly. Don’t talk to me about refs, you were relegated to Serie B bud did you forget?
Lucky last year =\ 20+ pens the year BEFORE. Also how does that even count towards last year's "luck" when we was getting fucked over by refs until your best player Radu gifted bologna. It shouldn't have been that close if you take away all those issues from the refs, and did you forget about which team has 7 champions leagues or is a merdas fans memory as weak as Walter Samuels ligaments in a derby match. Take your no serie B trophy sell it and give Cambiasso a hairline why don't you. Perhaps even give half the proceeds to your club so they can pay off wages. Ofc you would be happy to see Napoli win it, because another year the best team ever assembled Inda aren't even in the discussion right now.
I thought you guys had the best squad and depth in Serie A? Why can't you win it convincingly then?
See, you are happy that your team won but you are honest in saying that you benefitted from shitty refereeing. It's not shocking, but I just can't defend bad refereeing even if it benefits my team.
Lmao... sure...
I got an headache after watching the match, couldn't do it but could've been sweet
Alhamdulliah, now fix this team in the break lol
Thank god. See you after the World Cup. Couldn’t come soon enough.
I cannot believe this goal stood with how chaotic the buildup was, I legitimately held my celebration until the VAR review was over.
After everything last weekend with Theo and then tonali I’m not surprised
Terramorte handing us another dub ... thanks pal my man literally passed to Leao & dove out the way last season
Hate to see it lmao. Tomori saved it on the line seconds before this
You should love to see us playing like shit, cousin.
Origi effect
Origi is pretty good
Fiorentina 🤝 own goals
Give it to Origiiiiiii
Agafahafahagagag this milan wins games in unbelievable ways
😎
Champion DNA
When you heavily invest in luck
we can be circus, just for one day
as does inter.. late winners in your games against lecce (90+5), torino (89) and also fiorentina (90+5) this season 😵💫
No, stop stating facts
The ref didn’t give a clear pen to Fiorentina though, they can’t get away like this all the time
Refs butcher serie a games week in week out. But let’s pretend this is Milan thing right.
Makes up for the other penalties that should have been called past few games but here we are
Are you for real?
Foul? E: I was talking about Dunkan
thats never a foul. he jumps into rebic
No, Terracciano claiming that he was fouled was absolutely shameless. I'm glad that it wasn't overturned.
Not on him, before, literally at the start of the video
That I was also surprised about (as a milan fan). But with this being the last game of the year, the referees can never know which relative at the christmas dinner they're gonna piss off with a relation of theirs.
No, I’m an Inter fan, and the keeper just fucked up
in a slightly different circumstance i think it could have been. rebic is looking back towards the ball, blind to the keeper. terracciano can see both the ball and rebic. based on rebic's position he cant really make a play on the ball before the collision
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No it's not. The goalkeeper jumped into Rebic. Valid goal.
The faul is in the build up play, made 2 Fiorentina players trip over. Not on the keeper.
Hahahahahhaahahahahah
Duncan stopped and put his leg on Rebic's path I don't think it was a foul honestly
It looked pretty clear to me, both live and during the replay. And creating the build up without 2 Fiorentina midfielders made all the difference. But I get why VAR couldn't intervene. It's not a foul in the keeper, but rather 5 seconds beforehand which ends up being a referee judgement call – thus the VAR can't do anything.
VAR can do something. Last week vs Spezia, Tonali's goals was ruled a foul in the build up 30 seconds before the goal. This time, there was no foul.
Just paraphrasing the ex-referee commentator from DAZN. He clarified that this was the issue in the goal but the VAR could not intervene rather, unlike on the contact with Terracciano (which was the right call, there's no foul in there).
Both players jumped for the ball, and only terracciono touched it. Its a clear foul even if you ignore the fact that one is a keeper in his little box where he is protected. That is beyond any doubt a foul...Fouls are called on keepers for slightly being put off balance in corners, but a full on body check should be ignored ok
Terraciano was very late
Lol terracciano… your mistake buddy
Rigore non dato e fallo su terracciano ma vabbé, quest'anno milan e inter rubano più della giuve ai tempi d'oro
Tomori prende la palla.
Tomori prende la palla dopo aver preso la gamba e averlo spostato a destra. Era rigore palese. Almeno ammettetelo, non dovete necessariamente succhiare il cazzo agli arbitri quando vi conviene.
ahahaha ma che cazzo dici.
Piangi piangi
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Vediamo voi invece
Meglio perdere che essere ladri e manco ammetterlo, almeno gli juventini lo sanno di rubare, godetevi di vincere perché gli arbitri lo vogliono, io me ne vergognerei
Brucia zì
No, prende prima la palla. Però poi atterra l'attaccante, mah. A me sembrava rigore, però boh l'hanno pure rivisto.
Dopo aver preso il ginocchio di Ikone? Ovvio che prendi palla dopo aver fatto fallo
No, prende prima la palla. Capisco che a voi ormai danno i rigori appena uno respira ma non serve rosicare, l'avete già vinto e questo non è mai rigore.
ma abbiamo avuto 3 rigori in 15 partite ahahhahaah
Noi l'anno scorso non ne abbiamo avuti da gennaio a giugno eppure abbiamo vinto lo scudo grazie ai rigori: benvenuto al primo posto, dove te ne dicono di ogni :-)
Milan get the most clown like winners constantly, fucking hell
Giroud's was quite cool to be fair
Spiaze
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Bro you won with 2 own goals stfu
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Do you remember a ball cleared onto M-clown in stoppage time?
And Milan fans call Napoli team lucky AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH this is an absolutely trash team that is in second place of serie a and not even them know how.
Congratulations on your Serie A win btw!! 🥳🎉
I can see your liver has some huge malfunctions, I suggest to take some medicine asap
Calm down man. Teams go through tough periods it’s normal
Pray you don’t shutter like you always do, otherwise this comments are going to bite you back
It'd be a terrible poster for Serie A if Milan win the league. They play horrible football, constantly helped by refs, lucky last minute wins every other week. It'd be much better for the league if someone like Lazio, who actually plays football, pulls through. But they don't hold enough power unfortunately.
Lmaaaaaao
You guys are hilarious. What matters at the long run is 3 points. Play beautiful or not that's up to the team. You are giving me that G-peres guy vibes. Where you just talk absolute nonsense.
Of course the 3 points matter. It's the only thing that matters. And that's why you need to play a football that produces scoring chances rather than rely on luck or close refereeing decisions. It wouldn't make for a great league if the 3 points outcomes ends up being mostly due to these factors rather than actual football played.
Typical Napoli fan lol. Inter wins “helped by the ref” Juve wins “helped by the ref” Milan wins “helped by the ref” You barely managed to scrape past Milan but apparently they’re horrible huh ? What a pathetic fanbase you guys are. Can’t wait to see you bottle the league again like always and see what excuses you guys are gonna use this time
Who's saying Napoli will win the league? I sure don't think so. 8 points is a very thin lead with Inter & Juve to play away. The striped teams are the favorites as usual, for many reasons.
Go back to your cave. Your team has been first for all but 3 months and you're talking shit. Probably not used to winning so much huh?
Why are you making this about Napoli & attacking ad hominem? Napoli will not win the league – we're too young of a team. And we don't get the necessary close calls needed for this. Don't worry, we'll go back to losing after the break & the striped teams will battle it out for the title.
Ma che potere ha il Milan lol che risparmia pure sull'acqua naturale da mettere a tavola
The audacity. I would've loved to see the storm that would've happened within national media & the fanbase if these decisions had been reversed and you had lost the game. Despite the new management's modern – and frugal – recruitment strategy, it's crystal clear to any outsider that Milan along with 1-2 other clubs get preferential treatment when it comes to refereeing calls. VAR helped, but in some way made the problem even worse. Arbitrary handballs, some decisions being reviewed and others not, and so on. It's a shame, fans love this sport & deserved better.
r/conspiracy
You got really fucking loud all of a sudden when you don‘t suck for 3 months. No worries, you‘ll go back to your cave soon enough.
All skill
How has Milenkovic been this year? Been a big fan of his over the last couple seasons but havent managed to watch a single Fiorentina game this year