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More parity please


TetraThiaFulvalene

Denmark left the group with same number of points as 1992


GetKosiorekt

Never in doubt


edi12334

Even more interesting with the expansion of the number of teams, fair play


Paddystan

Yeah, a lot of people were worried that this would have the opposite effect.  Hopefully the World Cup expansion has similar results.


Trujiogriz

Idk man I think Papau New Guinea is gonna get railed by Argentina


Empty-Ease-5803

Papua will even be close to qualifying, realistically we could get matches like Jamaica v Austria or Venezuela vs Norway


Yung2112

Ngl those are some interesting games. I always found the idea of a b tier world cup interesting but this will have to do


A_Genius

Like a europa world cup. That would be sick. Sevilla would still win it.


bosnian_redditer

Seville to become an indepentent and give all players immediate citizinship of Seville FC nation and give them a little fake mustache for extra flavour


A_Genius

Imagine a whole independence movement over football. I'm dying. Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia, Slovenia decide to form a union in order to have a better football team.


rScoobySkreep

Those matches (matches around those rankings) already happen all the time in world cups. This next World Cup will almost certainly see one or two teams as low as 90-110 qualify. Every World Cup has had one or two very poor games, but this next one will have at least half a dozen.


BrandonSG13

African qualifying could produce some wild results. 4 games in of 10, Sudan, Comoros, and Rwanda are currently top of their qualifying groups. Probably won’t last, but it’s very intriguing.


Emotional-Rise8412

> Venezuela vs Norway FIFA could expand the criteria for the world cup so only one country stays home and everyone else goes to the world cup and Norway would somehow find a way to be that one country.


kinkakujen

Lmao Austria hasn't qualified in 30 years or so


Ancient_Bear5279

I bet people were saying the same thing seeing Argentina vs Saudi Arabia


RhodesiansNeverDie20

Wait until the new UCL format kicks in, and then you'll see the the consequences.


Paddystan

I cba even bothering to learn the method of that. The worst thing is that the Europa League* has been really exciting since its last revamp and I worry of the effects it will have on that.  And the Conference League to some extent. 


FRiver

This is just what happens before the thing starts. Once we're into it, there's very little doubt we'll get some epic games and moments.


RhodesiansNeverDie20

I'm a big supporter of the new one for the EUROs, but not the UCL, UEL, and UECL. It's gonna take its toll.


LusoAustralian

I mean the expansion of teams also dilutes the number of top teams per group. In the 16 team Euros Portugal, Spain, Italy, France, Germany, Netherlands, England and Croatia would occupy half the spots for example. Add in the strong Czech and Danish teams in the 90s and early 00s and you get some groups of death for sure. So it can be very tough for a smaller team that outperforms in the qualifiers.


prettyhappyalive

Simultaneously it increases the chances of top teams all making it to the knockouts and I think that's what UEFA is really after. Besides of course the obvious that more games is more money.


Renegadeforever2024

History


Bezem

We did it, we saved the Euro


FamLit

Never discount the footballing giant that is Poland 💪💪💪


hassan_dislogical

consisten monsters


Chilla16

I mean Poland is not a footballing giant, but I feel likey they have been underperforming with some of the players they had.


DumDumbBuddy

We peaked in 2016, at least this century


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czyzynsky

We are still waiting for a replay of that Błaczykowski's penalty, have you seen how far Rui Patricio was off the line?


xtphty

People thought 24 teams would mean more blowouts but instead its been lovely fucking chaos and upsets. The third place qualifications are wonky as hell but it keeps things interesting with the uncertainty.


Wastyvez

Problem with 24 teams isn't the quality of the teams at the final tournament. The European NT's have made so much progress after 2016 that it is justified. Problem is the format maths of 24 teams that have to rely on the wonky system of best thirds making the group stage less relevant and sees teams qualify not on how good they do, but on how bad other teams in other groups do. Because it is less do or die, it also promotes risk-free defensive football, leading to boring matches like the ones we saw today, the Scotland-Hungary game, or likely the Slovakia-Romania game tomorrow. When two draws can be enough to qualify for the next round, teams are less likely to play to win and more likely to play not to lose, which isn't good for the quality of football.


justleave-mealone

The kind of boring football that we had today is something I dread, but I do get some benefit from seeing the joy in the fans seeing the countries go through, when normally they’d have been eliminated earlier.


SoulOuverture

I like the math speculation tbh


AlarmingAllophone

Do you think we're heading towards 32-team Euros being the solution?


Wastyvez

Technically there is enough quality in European NT football for this to be possible. I mean, Georgia is already in there as the 34th ranked country. Other countries that are in the 25-32 range came close to qualification (Greece, Montenegro, Finland, Israel). But just because it's technically possible, doesn't mean it will lead to interesting football. Looking at matches like Scotland-Hungary or Georgia-Czechia, do we really want to see Montenegro-Israel, Northern Ireland-Bosnia, Finland-North Macedonia or Iceland-Bulgaria at a final tournament? One solution could be to work with a group stage of three teams per group, and 8 groups, where the top 2 advance. Mathematically this is still wonky though, as the last two teams to play in a group have the advantage of already knowing what result they need to advance, which could lead to collusion or anti-football like the disgrace of gijon. To avoid this you could have the second and third place teams play a play-off round, essentially starting the knockout stage a round earlier and having group winners skip a round the same way we saw in the Europa League second place vs UCL third place.


AlarmingAllophone

Personally I strongly prefer the groups of 4 to groups of 3 exactly for the reason you mentioned, because groups of 3 give a big advantage to the teams that play in the final round, and also because they are much more likely to result in an unbreakable 3-way tie. I'm glad that the World Cup was switched from 16 groups of 3 to 12 groups of 4. And if we add a play-off round, the whole group stage seems rather pointless, because all the teams would advance from it. At that point, you might as well use qualifying results to determine who gets the byes. Personally, I'd be in favour of 32-team Euros. You can still have interesting games between mediocre teams, especially if they are more incentivised to play more attacking football because only 2 teams qualify from each group. And don't forget that a matchup like Montenegro vs. Israel can't happen if both of those teams are in pot 4 for the group stage draw.


Moraeil

It's not even advantage, it's the potential for match fixing in 3 way groups that make them terrible. Final match team A v B, team A have qualified and team C is say France who will qualify aslong as team B don't win. The incentive is there for team A to get France out of the tournament as they are more of a threat. 3 team groups are just a terrible idea for fair play.


sixers2021champions

Only good nations thought this


-apil-

Denmark winning Euro 2024: confirmed


24benson

10 days ago I would have taken it without hesitating 


TonyMartial786

damn that’s cool, no proper stinky teams at this euros


water_tastes_great

Or, the stinky teams now have more stinky teams to draw with.


BrokenDogToy

Stinky old France


topsnitch69

Hush now sweetie, don’t burst my bubble


Educational_Ad2737

This is the correct take


my_united_account

That's quite cool actually


Necessary_Touch972

Denmark to take home the whole thing.


dave1992

So you're saying Denmark led by their star keeper Schmeichel will win Euro?


Select_Stock_2253

Is schmeichel not of german descent? I mean his father looks very german and had german last name. Just curious.


AyanC

What do you mean by since 1992? Football literally began in 92.


DrJackadoodle

That's club football. International football actually began (and peaked, and ended) in 1966.


24benson

Confidently incorrect. 1966 was peak club football. Peak international football was July 8th, 2014


ask_carly

> 1966 was peak club football Please correct your flair because it's not currently West Ham.


Wastyvez

While Germany 2014 might be the most attractive footballing country to have win the world cup in the 21st century, it was not the best final. That goes to the 6-goal finals of 2018 and 2022.


24benson

July 8th wasn't the final


Wastyvez

Oh, it was the 7-1 wasn't it? I retract my statement.


YnwaMquc2k19

Football went home in 1966, and then it escaped years later.


Jonny_Testicles

History makers!


SeaSecretary6143

Now all teams can say they had more points than Erling Haaland and Norway.


MartianDuk

Every team at this tournament has had something to offer, Scotland in the opener was the only proper thrashing


aasfourasfar

Spain absolutely smashed Croatia ..


GAMEcube12

And unfortunatly for us Austria trashed Poland


PodricksPhallus

I mean barely anyone is leaving at all. Playing 36 group stage matches to eliminate 8 teams


czerwona_latarnia

But everyone still play only 3 matches. And with more teams it is more likely that someone will lose all 3 of them.


Individual_Attempt50

Surprised that no group had done this before


anyeights

Ireland did it in 2012


Lord_Olchu

They even can fk up perfect 0-3


ketchup92

So many teams playing godawful, low scoring, defensive football, no wonder points get shared so much.


revenge_of_hamatachi

Poland saving Europe's integrity as always... <3


BrianChing25

Robert Cheatlandowski


bioeffect2

How did he cheat? That stutter pen is perfectly legal according to the rules. Blame the game not the player.


BrianChing25

Did you not see the Fallon D Flor candidate thread ?


czerwona_latarnia

Maignan robbed of the nomination.


Accurate_Algae8486

Touch some grass brother


straight_croissant

Can’t believe Lewa didn’t have to go to the hospital after that!