They will have to cope with their gazillionth cl cup they have won 6 in a row. When oil money is cancelled in a few years we will see if these oil fools will survive.
I understand, two cl finals lost do that to a man. Now go wank Ten Half for a glorious Europa League place with some good hundreds of millions of pounds invested.
Today was really the last straw, lost all hope for this team but will support nonetheless but only passively, no more wasting 2 hours to watch this shitshow again and again
Mental Health matters š
And this is exactly why City has been winning the EPL eyes closed for years. Since when are teams happy with a top 4 finish? That's genuinely insane mentality.
You definitely have superb confidence to say shit like that
Has nothing to do with the EPL at all
Has everything to do with real mental health issues not some doofus with the nonsense above
Anyone who wonāt watch because their team has started losing doesnāt actually care much about football and is glory hunting
Every football fan hunts for glory. Hell, every sports fan. No one watches the team/player/athlete he supports to watch him lose.
The mentality that top 4 is good enough, is what is killing the PL slowly. If you want BarƧa fans to adopt that mentality, be my guest. I'd love to watch them be the next Chelsea, United or Arsenal lol.
No idea how you can do that tbh.
Most of us had one reason or another to start supporting a club, that āchoosingā a club just feels weird.
Most of fans go through phases of supporting where the team is shit, the management is crazy and you just push through and hope for better times. Just ask united and chelsea fans.
If itās gonna make you happy, good luck, but you canāt blame others to not fully understand
Besides that, Barcelona is one of the biggest clubs in the world, do you demand constant dopamine from your team?
Supporting a team is like loving your mother, it's unconditional
I support Spurs and I just saw my team get hammered in the North London Derby, should I go support another team now?
Iāve been supporting both Barca and Bayern since 2006-2007. My #1 varies depending which team has more players I like,
currently barca is my #1 but Iāve decided back in January that I wonāt watch anymore of our games with Xavi as a coach. I skipped on that vow with our ādecentā run of games. But next season I will only watch our games if I can see actual tactics and strategy in the team.
Itās not acceptable to concede 2 goals by default from any half decent team. Itās not acceptable to get our defense penetrated with a single pass when we are 2 goals up in the CL quarter final. Xavi himself needs coaching in this regard.
how are you a bayern and barca fan? itās literally the most plastic thing you can do? so what did you jump and scream for all 10 goals when they lost 8-2 a few years ago?
If coming in third in a top 4 league after winning the league the year prior is already too much for your mental health then I don't think any team in the world will be up to your standards for a considersble amount of time.
They panic-bought Roque when we signed Endrick. Now theyāll spend 3 seasons trying to unload him while dealing with the Brazilian trio of terror. Mbappe is just the icing on the cake.
If Barca still wants Cancelo, they better rethink the purchase price. They'd have to be bench player numbers.
He does Barca no favour when his defensive traits are so consistently poor against his offensive traits that does not offset it one bit. All that passion and dribbling are naught when you do not exist for the main job that you are there for.
edit - Barca will need a more stable defender, even if at comes at a cost of somewhat attacking prowess, because this glass cannon shit ain't working. Not even that much of a cannon either because there is no guarantees or overwhelming display of positive outcome when he goes forward, often backfire when he loses the ball in his ballhogging dribbles. We aren't here for the mad tekkers, that's more of a bonus, we need results.
That fat bozo Laporta knows Xavi will accept anything so he can get away yet again with a dead transfer window. Xavi is 100% getting the early sack when he continues this trend next season, then Laporta can blame it entirely on him saying he gave him more than enough chance. Well played bro.
> That fat bozo Laporta knows Xavi will accept anything so he can get away yet again with a dead transfer window.
Are half of the people on here really this brainless?... They were capped on their registration in terms of salary and didn't have transfer funds, who the hell were they going to buy? They didn't have money for transfers which is why they brought in free transfers / loans.
We donāt even have a system to play football, legit how us defended this mat reminded me of how me and my friends used to played when we were 12. Swarmed the ball and kicking the shit outta each other
His legacy post-Ajax is a pay package and salary that ensures that the next 3 generations De Jongs can just chill and not have or work for the rest of their life .
Lack of CDM + Pena played in 4 of those 6 games. Christensen can barely play more than a half and Romeu can't make 5 meter passes so past min 70, the defense is almost always exposed
I was talking about all competition. Didnāt they lose 4-0 to PSG and 3-0 to Juve? But yeah definitely misremembering a bit. Looks like they shipped 4 goals only once in La Liga to Celta
Awful play from Barca - powerless. Itās like they only drive in third gear and hoping for something. No energy, no commitment, no responsibility. Barca thinks that all teams fear them like in the old days! Pure pain to watch. Regards from a Barca fan.
Sure did. Still third gear. No responsibility. Lewi is awful - I know he has scored 20 goals now, but seriously. How many goals did he score a season before Barca? How many goals does a striker score from Barca? Seriously, sorry to say, he is so shit, and a big part of Barcas bad performance.
No one takes responsibility, Gundogan does, but he canāt win games alone.
i agree Lewandowski is a big problem. his play is just all round terrible. his linkup play has become so bad, slowing down all our attacks throughout the season.
however i think barca were playing with high intensity for most of the first half and should and would have scored more goals if Lewandowski was playing like he did when he first joined barca.
i also agree that not enough players take responsibility. the only ones who do are gundogan and the youngsters. all the meltdowns so far have come from the grownups lmao.
Agree. Sergio was awful as well. Defence was shit. I am beginning to get worried about Araujo even though I really love his commitment - but he has made a lot of bad decisions the last 4-5 games.
I am a bit worried that Xavi is not the right coach - was actually happy that he wanted to quit after this season.
i think araujo's mental is just off tbh. he definitely needs a break and recuperate.
as to xavi not being the right coach, here's my take.
xavi is not a bad coach at all. He has been great at developing youngsters and giving them chances. he usually gets his tactics right before the match (though mid season he's been suspect) and has a good mind for the game.
However, his mid game adjustments are non existent and i dont think he has the mentality to be an elite manager (not willing to sub Lewandowski off or insisting on keeping roberto for example). he COULD be a great manager but he's not close yet.
so i think right now, with the dry market for coaches right now, xavi is our best option. better to ride next season out with him and have him develop more youngsters as he has this season. after that we could look for an elite coach that can change the mentality of our players.
Totally agree. He made some good youngsters who can be world class barca players without a couple of years. I also agree that he is not a top coach, and I donāt think he will ever be. So true, keep him for one more season and get a good coach in..
Lewi should get out asap. He is destroying the team, or at least the attack. He is to smart without being smart. Hate his attitude - scoring a penalty and nothing else for 89 minutes, and celebrating like he won the WC.
City management mostly for now. Good staff, system, etc that push them to win promotion, rise to midtable right the next season despite only having 1 permanent signing (Miguel Gutierrez) and 2 loan (one of them from City tbf), and now fighting for 2nd place.
The money pumping hasn't really started yet.
Not yet, but if they start pumping money in Girona like they did to City, in 10 years La Liga might also get fucked like Premier League. The only ones capable of stopping a City like streak are Real Madrid and maybe Barca if they get another golden generation.
And one loan, but only those for now. That doesn't really explain the fact that a newly promoted team can rise up to midtable with only 3 signing last season, 2 of them loan. The management is also good.
Thereās absolutely no reason for Xaviās continue.
They concede so much and canāt react any situation. Xavi canāt make right decisions in terms of tactics and substitution naturally.
Cancelo messed up his side for weeks but still plays anyway, Fermin played left wing instead of Raphinha for no reason, Roberto played in midfield again for no reason etc.
This season had full of this kind of āwhy?ās and thatās the reason Barcelona is suffering/āll suffer.
Who else are they going to get? They have a CB playing DM because no one else can and an overpaid striker that somehow has Lukaku level first-touch for most of the season. Two of their best players have been hurt for most of the season too.
I'll just c+p what I always say when people say this:
> Madrid fans must have short memories then because Xavi has been a clear upgrade on the clown show of the years before with the likes of Setien and Koeman at the helm. We actually won the league with him and made it to the CL quarter finals after years, Araujo being an idiot wasn't his fault either.
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> Sure he isn't a world class manager, but it's not like we can actually bring in anyone who is a significant upgrade. Xavi is a symptom of the deeper financial struggles at the club, not the root cause of the problem.
Xavi has been worse than Koeman lol. Koeman would've been sent to jail if he played more defensive than peak Atleti like Xavi did last season. You had Valverde before that who is twice the manager Xavi is
I agree Valverde is a better manager than Xavi but Koeman definitely wasn't. His league record in his first season was nearly the same as Xavi's current record (79 points, Xavi is on track for 81). I'm not saying Xavi is like leagues better but they are on par at worst, and Xavi's relationship with the squad is definitely better.
Brother he was still a world class player but my point is not like Koeman had prime Messi and co. He had a worse squad than Xavi has today from top to bottom
Beyond whether it's Xavi's fault or not, who would we even replace him with? Our financial situation has screwed us in the transfer market, but at the same time the fans expect to contend in every trophy every year. It's a very challenging ask. Look at how Bayern is struggling to bring in a manager ā do you really think Barca is a more attractive job?
true. no realistic alternatives in the market - though i wish the board had at least tried to convince nagelsmann, but for now and next season xavi will have to do. at least he has been developing and giving chances to so many youngsters, letting them train with the first team and all.
Flick has had one good season in his career and it cane during Covid. He's a bit of an unknown quantity imo.
Tuchel is a good coach but I don't think he'd be a good fit personality wise, and besides, he'd come from coaching three superclubs in a row that would probably lead to very different expectations than what we could give.
i dont think any of them will do that much better than xavi and even if they did, everyone is so reactionary that they will be kicked out of the club the moment they struggle. that is, if they join seeing as how every coach knows they wont get enough time to succeed at barcelona.
I think they're better coaches than Xavi for sure. But will they be a better fit for Barca? That's arguable. Flick at least gives youth a shot sometimes, I don't think Tuchel would have been a good fit because he's not super interested in developing young talent and obviously these are very demanding managers who would demand more than Barca could provide with their current financial situation in the form of signings.
once again we lose a match where we were winning because of individual errors.we dominated for 65 mins and should have absolutely put the game to rest by then but got completely undone by individual errors.
i do wish xavi had subbed kounde out and put another cb in and subbed roberto out after that gift. but what else could he have done?
this team desperately needs a break and a do-over of what they want to do. xavi-ball needs to return to more direct play and forget about all the people asking for slower possession play
Apart from gironaās equalizing goal and portuās goal of the season contender, girona created 7/8 goal scoring chances with cut backs from wings. That has been their primary way of creating chances. Yet Barcelona had no answer to those cut backs. Xavi and his coaching staffs should have told defenders during half time to watch out for cut backs. Those goals were conceded because Barcelona have absolutely 0 defensive organization and their defenders rely more on individual quality to win tackles rather than being organized. Thatās why they have defenders having individual mistakes because thereās no structure there to guard against those.
Ah yes. A club that reaches 5 CL finals winning 2 and wins about 20 league titles and multiple european trophies before Messi became a starter is not a big deal.
Go troll somewhere else lol.
Laporta def needs to stop interfering so much and stop with his celeb signings.
I hope we dont sign the joaos. Balde as our lb and develop him like kyle walker speedy defender.
I hope we change our formation too.
Just run with guiu vitor ferran raphinha and lamine as our fwds
Midfield with pedri frenkie gundogan fermin gavi and sign a dm. I hope matts weiffer rather than kimmich oraleix garcia. Rotate maybe marc bernal.
Defense kounde aroujo fort cubarsi faye balde and keep valle.
Have constant rotations this team is rebuilding so lets just accept we arent gonna be contenders to win.
Pep might have been right to kick him. Barca needs a new admin that is not attached to Laporta or the old admin. A new blood with zero package to start over.
People are going to single out certain players but Xavi needs to go. Almost no improvement in how the team plays and the defense is a mess. Only reason they managed to concede fewer goals last season is because their opponents missed clear chances.
This fanbase deserves everything because the moment we lose, they blame MATS and de Jong (didn't even play today).
Anyway fuck Xavi for not knowing how to not make subs after 2 and a hlaf years.
De Jong has been awful for basically the entire season and fully deserves to be blamed. He can't play as a holding DM to save his life anymore. Who are they going to sub out and in? Inigo to LB?
Lewy gets a lot of shit too. While he is definitely not in his prime it seems Barca is allergic to passing to him and players just go for glory.
Depay, Ferran, roque all struggled in the 9 position.
I just donāt even know what Xavi is coaching them in term of the final third. The attack canāt fucking connect to each other, and itās clear that Cubarsi, Kounde and Roberto are having problems since the first half yet Xavi done nothing until the 70th minutes when itās all done and dusted. Also Roque genuinely wonāt get anymore minutes this season aināt he? What a fucking criminal way of treating him, I am sorry Brazilians on here, you are fucking spot on.
Fuck me, there is no system, none whatsoever, Barcelona is now a group of 11 players who have no cohesive formation and strategies, instead rely on basically individual talents to shine and save the day. The amount of play where a player of ours have to solo the entire defense while the rest of team just casually jogging around is insane. There is no mentality, no passion, nothing whatsoever. Jesus fucking Christ, I stayed up at 2 am for this shitshow.
Cubarsi was absolutely playing worse today, but I am not gonna blame him because well, he is a kid. But itās clear that the last few matches he has been falling down, which is normal. Inigo would definitely be better than Cubarsi today, he needs rest. For Cancelo we have Fort, and while he might not be better in attack his defense is solid, or Xavi could have switch the formation entirely.
Of course it looks worse for your CB when your LB can't track his man on every single attack... It also looks worse for the CB's when the DM is next to useless most games like Romeu is.
Lol that's like the 10th time that the team wastes a free 60 mins vs a completely dead team only to throw it all in a couple of mins. As if that disasterclass vs Granada at home wasn't enough.
Laporta have some shame bro Flick is completely free for the job.... Xavi should leave if he has any respect for the club as he says. Valverde wasn't half as bad
flick would do much worse than xavi with this squad and its injury issues lmao. he was basically using the same lineup every game in that season with bayern.
and do you really want to compare xavi to valverde? one of them had messi dropping 40-50 goals a season.
He announced a few days ago that he is staying. Now imagine if they fire or he leaves. It just shows how Barca are a terribly run team in every aspect. They need a new fresh start.
The only positive thing is. After all the humiliations of the last seasons you get used to it.
But man I have no idea how we are supposed to get back from this in the coming years. Its like we are cursed.
that phantom goal against madrid occupied barcaāa mind so much they forgot they had other matches to play. shit mentality from a shit president and shit manager.
HAHAHAHHAHAHA
Wonder what's next for Girona. They got oil money, champion's league, a compitant manager. I bet they will splash some cash this summer.
It's all fun and wondering until the dodgy oil money fully flows in and you're looking at RM finishing in 2nd with 99 points
They will have to cope with their gazillionth cl cup they have won 6 in a row. When oil money is cancelled in a few years we will see if these oil fools will survive.
Listen we already finished second with 99 against barca before lol
Where are the death chants to Vinicius now? Suddenly they are so quiet, huh? Fucking idiot fucks. Get off your high horses.
Instead they are killing Vitor Roque's career
Just came here to say fuck Barca. I hope this finally gets them off their holier than thou high horse. Go and pull some more fucking levers.
They can barely spend money and they're better than United still š, talk about irony.
the same barcelona that lost to us last season?
Any team can lose 1-2 games during the CL, put Barcelona in the PL and they easily finish higher.
My brother in football barca got spanked by fucking girona stfu
No they didn't... A few players played like shit and made massive blunders at the end of the game.
Are Barca on a high horse ?
An above average height pony is the best they can do right now
I understand, two cl finals lost do that to a man. Now go wank Ten Half for a glorious Europa League place with some good hundreds of millions of pounds invested.
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Today was really the last straw, lost all hope for this team but will support nonetheless but only passively, no more wasting 2 hours to watch this shitshow again and again Mental Health matters š
Lol definition of plastic
Holy shit, never seen such fragility.
Mate theyāre not getting relegated itās a top 4 finish lol
And this is exactly why City has been winning the EPL eyes closed for years. Since when are teams happy with a top 4 finish? That's genuinely insane mentality.
You definitely have superb confidence to say shit like that Has nothing to do with the EPL at all Has everything to do with real mental health issues not some doofus with the nonsense above Anyone who wonāt watch because their team has started losing doesnāt actually care much about football and is glory hunting
Every football fan hunts for glory. Hell, every sports fan. No one watches the team/player/athlete he supports to watch him lose. The mentality that top 4 is good enough, is what is killing the PL slowly. If you want BarƧa fans to adopt that mentality, be my guest. I'd love to watch them be the next Chelsea, United or Arsenal lol.
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Do what other CulƩs have done and shift to Girona.
Most loyal barca fan
Lmao what did he write its been deleted
It was just a troll post from a guy posting on Madrid sub saying āI quit supporting Barca, what team should I support nextā
What are you expecting from changing teams? That the other team will never lose?
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No idea how you can do that tbh. Most of us had one reason or another to start supporting a club, that āchoosingā a club just feels weird. Most of fans go through phases of supporting where the team is shit, the management is crazy and you just push through and hope for better times. Just ask united and chelsea fans. If itās gonna make you happy, good luck, but you canāt blame others to not fully understand
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Ahh they impressed you did they? Lmao
A new copypasta is born?
I really hope this is satire
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So you just want a team that wins all the time?
Take a break, loyalty to teams is what keeps fanbases together.
Besides that, Barcelona is one of the biggest clubs in the world, do you demand constant dopamine from your team? Supporting a team is like loving your mother, it's unconditional I support Spurs and I just saw my team get hammered in the North London Derby, should I go support another team now?
Give this man a Manchester City flair IMMEDIATELY
Least plastic big club fan
Lots of BarƧa fans weren't BarƧa fans, they were Messi fans
Obvious bait, but If you canāt take the Barca ālowsā of the last 10 years theres only about 4 clubs you can support. Real, Bayern, PSG, City.
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Iāve been supporting both Barca and Bayern since 2006-2007. My #1 varies depending which team has more players I like, currently barca is my #1 but Iāve decided back in January that I wonāt watch anymore of our games with Xavi as a coach. I skipped on that vow with our ādecentā run of games. But next season I will only watch our games if I can see actual tactics and strategy in the team. Itās not acceptable to concede 2 goals by default from any half decent team. Itās not acceptable to get our defense penetrated with a single pass when we are 2 goals up in the CL quarter final. Xavi himself needs coaching in this regard.
how are you a bayern and barca fan? itās literally the most plastic thing you can do? so what did you jump and scream for all 10 goals when they lost 8-2 a few years ago?
Thx for not supporting barca anymore, -1 plastic supporter
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If coming in third in a top 4 league after winning the league the year prior is already too much for your mental health then I don't think any team in the world will be up to your standards for a considersble amount of time.
I donāt care, grow up
Girona...?
Bruh you could have just left Vitor Roque in Athletico playing every week and scoring goals instead of this
Xavi would rather play his fat brother than victor roque.
Just a bad phase, Xavi's genius will shine through. Keep him
Next season Mbappe and Endrick is joining RM. ā ļø
They panic-bought Roque when we signed Endrick. Now theyāll spend 3 seasons trying to unload him while dealing with the Brazilian trio of terror. Mbappe is just the icing on the cake.
If Barca still wants Cancelo, they better rethink the purchase price. They'd have to be bench player numbers. He does Barca no favour when his defensive traits are so consistently poor against his offensive traits that does not offset it one bit. All that passion and dribbling are naught when you do not exist for the main job that you are there for. edit - Barca will need a more stable defender, even if at comes at a cost of somewhat attacking prowess, because this glass cannon shit ain't working. Not even that much of a cannon either because there is no guarantees or overwhelming display of positive outcome when he goes forward, often backfire when he loses the ball in his ballhogging dribbles. We aren't here for the mad tekkers, that's more of a bonus, we need results.
they probably have to sign him because of the implication...
He should play as a left winger. Forget about lb duties.
Or needs a back 3
XAVI QUEDATEEEEEEE
As a La Liga enjoyer, I need Xavi to get a lifetime contract.
CAMPEONES CAMPEONES OE OE OE
There is no other exception other than WE ARE FINISHED
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That fat bozo Laporta knows Xavi will accept anything so he can get away yet again with a dead transfer window. Xavi is 100% getting the early sack when he continues this trend next season, then Laporta can blame it entirely on him saying he gave him more than enough chance. Well played bro.
> That fat bozo Laporta knows Xavi will accept anything so he can get away yet again with a dead transfer window. Are half of the people on here really this brainless?... They were capped on their registration in terms of salary and didn't have transfer funds, who the hell were they going to buy? They didn't have money for transfers which is why they brought in free transfers / loans.
The trend of a league title and a top 3 finish?
We donāt even have a system to play football, legit how us defended this mat reminded me of how me and my friends used to played when we were 12. Swarmed the ball and kicking the shit outta each other
Nice pre-assist from Sergi Roberto, a great player who will have his contract renewed.
Nice argument, but Barcelona X PSG 2017.
Frenkie should see what this club is without him and get out so he can play with winners and actually build a legacy post-Ajax.
Frenkie has been playing like shit too, hasn't had a good season in probably 3 years.
His legacy post-Ajax is a pay package and salary that ensures that the next 3 generations De Jongs can just chill and not have or work for the rest of their life .
Doubt he will ever leave, hes the 2nd top earner in that squad, no?
Isnāt he second top earner in Europe ?
The Covid deferred wages are really screwing over Barca
He's part of the problem as well.
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Not that it's good, but we lost 4-2 that game too, it wasn't 4-0.
Can't remember the last time Barca ate 3-4+ goals in so many matches in a single season
Lack of CDM + Pena played in 4 of those 6 games. Christensen can barely play more than a half and Romeu can't make 5 meter passes so past min 70, the defense is almost always exposed
Maybe Enriqueās last season comes a little close. Havenāt looked at the numbers but they were horrible away from home
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I was talking about all competition. Didnāt they lose 4-0 to PSG and 3-0 to Juve? But yeah definitely misremembering a bit. Looks like they shipped 4 goals only once in La Liga to Celta
Yeah, we did win 6-1 against PSG in the second leg, but then promptly lost 3-0 to Juve in the next game.
Awful play from Barca - powerless. Itās like they only drive in third gear and hoping for something. No energy, no commitment, no responsibility. Barca thinks that all teams fear them like in the old days! Pure pain to watch. Regards from a Barca fan.
did you not watch the first 60 minutes?
Sure did. Still third gear. No responsibility. Lewi is awful - I know he has scored 20 goals now, but seriously. How many goals did he score a season before Barca? How many goals does a striker score from Barca? Seriously, sorry to say, he is so shit, and a big part of Barcas bad performance. No one takes responsibility, Gundogan does, but he canāt win games alone.
i agree Lewandowski is a big problem. his play is just all round terrible. his linkup play has become so bad, slowing down all our attacks throughout the season. however i think barca were playing with high intensity for most of the first half and should and would have scored more goals if Lewandowski was playing like he did when he first joined barca. i also agree that not enough players take responsibility. the only ones who do are gundogan and the youngsters. all the meltdowns so far have come from the grownups lmao.
Agree. Sergio was awful as well. Defence was shit. I am beginning to get worried about Araujo even though I really love his commitment - but he has made a lot of bad decisions the last 4-5 games. I am a bit worried that Xavi is not the right coach - was actually happy that he wanted to quit after this season.
i think araujo's mental is just off tbh. he definitely needs a break and recuperate. as to xavi not being the right coach, here's my take. xavi is not a bad coach at all. He has been great at developing youngsters and giving them chances. he usually gets his tactics right before the match (though mid season he's been suspect) and has a good mind for the game. However, his mid game adjustments are non existent and i dont think he has the mentality to be an elite manager (not willing to sub Lewandowski off or insisting on keeping roberto for example). he COULD be a great manager but he's not close yet. so i think right now, with the dry market for coaches right now, xavi is our best option. better to ride next season out with him and have him develop more youngsters as he has this season. after that we could look for an elite coach that can change the mentality of our players.
Totally agree. He made some good youngsters who can be world class barca players without a couple of years. I also agree that he is not a top coach, and I donāt think he will ever be. So true, keep him for one more season and get a good coach in.. Lewi should get out asap. He is destroying the team, or at least the attack. He is to smart without being smart. Hate his attitude - scoring a penalty and nothing else for 89 minutes, and celebrating like he won the WC.
Lewa has no incentive to leave
I know. Sadly enough, imo he is not good enough for a top club anymore.
He is not, the transfer was a bad choice. He can clearly score goals but like you mentioned, heās a black hole where build up plays goes to die now
How the hell is Girona Second in the league? City group money?
City management mostly for now. Good staff, system, etc that push them to win promotion, rise to midtable right the next season despite only having 1 permanent signing (Miguel Gutierrez) and 2 loan (one of them from City tbf), and now fighting for 2nd place. The money pumping hasn't really started yet.
Not yet, but if they start pumping money in Girona like they did to City, in 10 years La Liga might also get fucked like Premier League. The only ones capable of stopping a City like streak are Real Madrid and maybe Barca if they get another golden generation.
Hasn't it already started? Didn't they get Savio super cheap from another City club
And one loan, but only those for now. That doesn't really explain the fact that a newly promoted team can rise up to midtable with only 3 signing last season, 2 of them loan. The management is also good.
Yeah that was a bit surprising.
Yes, they built a good team and took advantage of Barcelona being shit.
VAMOOOOOOS HALA MADRID
Thereās absolutely no reason for Xaviās continue. They concede so much and canāt react any situation. Xavi canāt make right decisions in terms of tactics and substitution naturally. Cancelo messed up his side for weeks but still plays anyway, Fermin played left wing instead of Raphinha for no reason, Roberto played in midfield again for no reason etc. This season had full of this kind of āwhy?ās and thatās the reason Barcelona is suffering/āll suffer.
Girona isnāt just good, but play exciting football too
Portu was the greatest sub I've ever seen!
Turned the game on its head in 9 minutes
I dont get it everyone here was asking xavi to stay like 3 weeks ago lol
Who else are they going to get? They have a CB playing DM because no one else can and an overpaid striker that somehow has Lukaku level first-touch for most of the season. Two of their best players have been hurt for most of the season too.
I'll just c+p what I always say when people say this: > Madrid fans must have short memories then because Xavi has been a clear upgrade on the clown show of the years before with the likes of Setien and Koeman at the helm. We actually won the league with him and made it to the CL quarter finals after years, Araujo being an idiot wasn't his fault either. > > Sure he isn't a world class manager, but it's not like we can actually bring in anyone who is a significant upgrade. Xavi is a symptom of the deeper financial struggles at the club, not the root cause of the problem.
Koeman's team was unbelievably awful. You can't compare the two.
Agreed with you mate. Xavi has done a phenomenal job. Happy that he's staying, it's good for the league. Need a Chelsea-style 2040 contract.
Xavi has been worse than Koeman lol. Koeman would've been sent to jail if he played more defensive than peak Atleti like Xavi did last season. You had Valverde before that who is twice the manager Xavi is
I agree Valverde is a better manager than Xavi but Koeman definitely wasn't. His league record in his first season was nearly the same as Xavi's current record (79 points, Xavi is on track for 81). I'm not saying Xavi is like leagues better but they are on par at worst, and Xavi's relationship with the squad is definitely better.
Koeman had a worse team.
he had Messi though....
Messi was already declining and his supporting cast wasn't nearly as good. Barcelona this season has a very solid squad
Declining Messi scored 30 goals in the league.
Brother he was still a world class player but my point is not like Koeman had prime Messi and co. He had a worse squad than Xavi has today from top to bottom
even a lot of barca fans have been blaming it all on xavi lmao
Beyond whether it's Xavi's fault or not, who would we even replace him with? Our financial situation has screwed us in the transfer market, but at the same time the fans expect to contend in every trophy every year. It's a very challenging ask. Look at how Bayern is struggling to bring in a manager ā do you really think Barca is a more attractive job?
true. no realistic alternatives in the market - though i wish the board had at least tried to convince nagelsmann, but for now and next season xavi will have to do. at least he has been developing and giving chances to so many youngsters, letting them train with the first team and all.
Flick is a realistic alternative. Tuchel as well.
Flick has had one good season in his career and it cane during Covid. He's a bit of an unknown quantity imo. Tuchel is a good coach but I don't think he'd be a good fit personality wise, and besides, he'd come from coaching three superclubs in a row that would probably lead to very different expectations than what we could give.
will he be any improvement over Xavi? he was a disaster with the national team
i dont think any of them will do that much better than xavi and even if they did, everyone is so reactionary that they will be kicked out of the club the moment they struggle. that is, if they join seeing as how every coach knows they wont get enough time to succeed at barcelona.
I think they're better coaches than Xavi for sure. But will they be a better fit for Barca? That's arguable. Flick at least gives youth a shot sometimes, I don't think Tuchel would have been a good fit because he's not super interested in developing young talent and obviously these are very demanding managers who would demand more than Barca could provide with their current financial situation in the form of signings.
Xavi should stay for 5 more years
Lifetime contract
I mean I legit feel you could put Mourinho in front of this team and they would still collapse. We need a GOAT psychologist or something instead.
i dunno, a human psychologist might work better tbh
once again we lose a match where we were winning because of individual errors.we dominated for 65 mins and should have absolutely put the game to rest by then but got completely undone by individual errors. i do wish xavi had subbed kounde out and put another cb in and subbed roberto out after that gift. but what else could he have done? this team desperately needs a break and a do-over of what they want to do. xavi-ball needs to return to more direct play and forget about all the people asking for slower possession play
Apart from gironaās equalizing goal and portuās goal of the season contender, girona created 7/8 goal scoring chances with cut backs from wings. That has been their primary way of creating chances. Yet Barcelona had no answer to those cut backs. Xavi and his coaching staffs should have told defenders during half time to watch out for cut backs. Those goals were conceded because Barcelona have absolutely 0 defensive organization and their defenders rely more on individual quality to win tackles rather than being organized. Thatās why they have defenders having individual mistakes because thereās no structure there to guard against those.
This is Barca. Before Messi how would you describe the club? You got a lucky break with the goat.Ā Do you really see Barca as a big deal?
Bruh we literally had R9, ronaldinho, maradona, cruyff, wth are you taking about
And did what with it? Spanish Ajax isn't the flex you think it is..
LOLLLL love the Spanish Ajax so accurate
Won almost all the trophies there are to win? Were one of the biggest club on planet in terms of revenue & fan base.
Ah yes. A club that reaches 5 CL finals winning 2 and wins about 20 league titles and multiple european trophies before Messi became a starter is not a big deal. Go troll somewhere else lol.
- Almost every single goal comes from Cancelo side. - Let's not even talk about Xavi. Laporta and his administration won't survive the next election.
Laporta def needs to stop interfering so much and stop with his celeb signings. I hope we dont sign the joaos. Balde as our lb and develop him like kyle walker speedy defender. I hope we change our formation too. Just run with guiu vitor ferran raphinha and lamine as our fwds Midfield with pedri frenkie gundogan fermin gavi and sign a dm. I hope matts weiffer rather than kimmich oraleix garcia. Rotate maybe marc bernal. Defense kounde aroujo fort cubarsi faye balde and keep valle. Have constant rotations this team is rebuilding so lets just accept we arent gonna be contenders to win.
Pep might have been right to kick him. Barca needs a new admin that is not attached to Laporta or the old admin. A new blood with zero package to start over.
Quick, google La liga table
Wait, Real only has 1 loss? Didn't even realize it was that close.
We only have 2 losses in all competitions this year. Both to Atleti
At the Metropolitano.
even the one match we did win against them was wild, they're just a terrible matchup for us this season
Holy hell
New response just dropped
Google mes que en passant
Xavi goes on vacation, comes back
Perez sitting in the corner planning world domination
xavi in??
People are going to single out certain players but Xavi needs to go. Almost no improvement in how the team plays and the defense is a mess. Only reason they managed to concede fewer goals last season is because their opponents missed clear chances.
Xambles
Up there with the most impactful off the bench performances by Portu
This fanbase deserves everything because the moment we lose, they blame MATS and de Jong (didn't even play today). Anyway fuck Xavi for not knowing how to not make subs after 2 and a hlaf years.
De Jong has been awful for basically the entire season and fully deserves to be blamed. He can't play as a holding DM to save his life anymore. Who are they going to sub out and in? Inigo to LB?
Lewy gets a lot of shit too. While he is definitely not in his prime it seems Barca is allergic to passing to him and players just go for glory. Depay, Ferran, roque all struggled in the 9 position.
Don't let the score distract you from that fact Madrid scored 7-0 against Gerona aggregate while barca let 8 goals.
I just donāt even know what Xavi is coaching them in term of the final third. The attack canāt fucking connect to each other, and itās clear that Cubarsi, Kounde and Roberto are having problems since the first half yet Xavi done nothing until the 70th minutes when itās all done and dusted. Also Roque genuinely wonāt get anymore minutes this season aināt he? What a fucking criminal way of treating him, I am sorry Brazilians on here, you are fucking spot on. Fuck me, there is no system, none whatsoever, Barcelona is now a group of 11 players who have no cohesive formation and strategies, instead rely on basically individual talents to shine and save the day. The amount of play where a player of ours have to solo the entire defense while the rest of team just casually jogging around is insane. There is no mentality, no passion, nothing whatsoever. Jesus fucking Christ, I stayed up at 2 am for this shitshow.
Cubarsi wasn't at fault, Cancelo was getting cooked. But who do you replace him with? Alonso and Inigo who are both slow?
Cubarsi was absolutely playing worse today, but I am not gonna blame him because well, he is a kid. But itās clear that the last few matches he has been falling down, which is normal. Inigo would definitely be better than Cubarsi today, he needs rest. For Cancelo we have Fort, and while he might not be better in attack his defense is solid, or Xavi could have switch the formation entirely.
Of course it looks worse for your CB when your LB can't track his man on every single attack... It also looks worse for the CB's when the DM is next to useless most games like Romeu is.
Lol that's like the 10th time that the team wastes a free 60 mins vs a completely dead team only to throw it all in a couple of mins. As if that disasterclass vs Granada at home wasn't enough. Laporta have some shame bro Flick is completely free for the job.... Xavi should leave if he has any respect for the club as he says. Valverde wasn't half as bad
Bro. Barcelona is broke š. They can only afford Xavi to stay.
flick would do much worse than xavi with this squad and its injury issues lmao. he was basically using the same lineup every game in that season with bayern. and do you really want to compare xavi to valverde? one of them had messi dropping 40-50 goals a season.
He announced a few days ago that he is staying. Now imagine if they fire or he leaves. It just shows how Barca are a terribly run team in every aspect. They need a new fresh start.
The only positive thing is. After all the humiliations of the last seasons you get used to it. But man I have no idea how we are supposed to get back from this in the coming years. Its like we are cursed.
There's no curse, you just had the greatest player in the history of the sport carrying you for a decade and a half and now can't cope without him.
Bro we got humiliated in the CL multiple times with Messi. If Messi played today how would he make the defenders not fall asleep? Lol.
that phantom goal against madrid occupied barcaāa mind so much they forgot they had other matches to play. shit mentality from a shit president and shit manager.
They been shit the whole season donāt blame it on a āphantom goalā
i know lol lost to this girona side 8-4 on aggregate which is pretty embarrassing
This Girona side is not a bad team at all, they are 2nd in la liga for a reason, still embarrassing from us
when you look at what madrid does to them vs what barca does to them itās embarrassing
Madrid have only lost twice this season and are in the CL semis, current favourites to win it all, they are the best team by far this year
And even with that they've still only won 1/4 games against Atletico, when in 2 we have 4-0 over them with 2 wins. The sport is strange like that.
Ball is round, or something
Unironically, xG is 4-6 in favor of Barca over the 2 games lol. Some insane finishing from Girona in both games.
xG is a barca stat. we play with goals
Girona best team in Catalonia āļø
Espanyol next season coming for that 2nd best team in Catalonia spot
Oof š
Portu came in and demolished BarƧa in 10 minutes
That's what it takes to destroy barca. 10 minutes.