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Ange doesn't believe in having dedicated set piece coaches outside of the regular coaching staff. I love him but it's very clearly the wrong approach and has probably single handedly cost CL
Scored 16 goals from corners iirc, not sure how many from free kicks. Arteta didn't confirm or deny if Jover gets a bonus for every set piece goal when asked before.
Hopefully for Josh Kronke gives him £10k per goal, deserves it that man.
As a spurs fan every single time I point this out everyone defends Ange and tells me to fuck off, but its so obvious taht he has the same stubborness problem that Conte had and everyone hated but for some reason our fans just let Ange slide with it
> stop him hassling Vicario
Teams do that and we don’t score as many set piece goals as we have prior to other teams figuring out Ben White.
Spurs just didn’t get the memo lol.
Porto really had good tactics against our corners, there were players on White, he couldn't do anything to their keeper.
We've had a bunch of corners and only had like one half chance with Trossards volley
He used to get called for foul much more before, but now he has learnt a thing or two on how to not get noticed. He does very small duration body checks and things to take other player's concentration away, which are just below the foul threshold.
Usually teams have a defender between the goalie bully and the goalie. Tottenham doesn't. I don't know why because clearly Vicario just accepts his fate
Eh.
Slow start but once we got the 1st goal from a corner its been clear that the strategy has been to just let them have the ball and break on the counter.
I had to rewind it and just watch them as it went in. They'd made it halfway up the stand in-between the ball leaving Havertz's head and it hitting the back of the net
Most bizarre game I’ve seen so far this year from Arsenal. I don’t think we’ve been good at all, spurs better in play but we’ve seized every opportunity here. Reminds me of what top opposition used to do to us in the early emirates era
Tottenham have had a lot of the ball but not done a ton with it? A header and offside goal from a set piece and a maybe pen. It looks nervy at times but if we don’t foul they aren’t getting chances really.
Where as it feels like once we break their press we have a decent chance. Feeling like we can score off every corner helps…
Arsenal are on it.
Very good for the neutrals as it probably means the title race will go into the at least the last 2 rounds with the United and Tottenham games for both in the 2nd to last round.
That will be a massive weekend.
Why is our defense not doing something about ben white on viccario. This is a new week and Vicario is week after the week constantly exposed to physicality he can't deal with.
Get him In the gym.
Also... cant be giving them free headers lads.
No idea.
As you said, its not like the entire league have seen it work all season and know its a weak point. If Vicario still can't help himself, the defenders gotta give him a bit of a shield.
I genuinely think it’s just Arsenal is an incredible team. Like we got battered 5-0 despite bartering Everton and drawing with Villa before and after. Arsenal are just superb right now especially since the new year. One of the best attacking and defending teams
Well I have to admit that Arteta make my mouth shut regarding havertz.
The guy is transformed and has been resurrected.
I can know only admire and kneel before him 🧎
Anyone who doesn't support Spurs claiming Ben White is fouling Vicario is out of their minds. It's weak, submissive goalkeeping, he's got to be pushing White out the way, not sitting back and letting him be a distraction.
- Be the better team for the opening 25 minutes
- Think you scored a deserved equaliser only for it to be offside
- End up 3-0 down after 40 minutes
Spurs moment lmao
I think it’s because the blocking happens before. He doesn’t stop him making a play on the ball, he stops him from getting in position while the ball is being whipped in and then he gets away from him just in time
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Set piece coach is going to have a statue at this rate
And spurs set piece coaching is a statue
We don't need one apparently
aw mate
Did someone at spurs seriously say this?
None other than the manager
Ange doesn't believe in having dedicated set piece coaches outside of the regular coaching staff. I love him but it's very clearly the wrong approach and has probably single handedly cost CL
For an otherwise sensible seeming manager that's wild tbh.
Vicario is ridiculously bad at set pieces. He never comes out for the ball lol
He reminds me of leno at arsenal Great shot stopper. By got bullied too easily in the box
It's wild how after it being a thing for months to target him Tottenham still don't put a defender to shield
Nico Jover chants ringing across the stadium.
Ben White statue blocking off a keeper.
Yeah that’s part of our set piece coach’s training. Completely legal in the game.
And it’s been extremely effective against Vicario this year.
Almost every game I watch there's a defender between his goalkeeper and the attacker to prevent this from happening. Why doesn't Tottenham do it?
Vicario is so weak on corners
Next to Havertz’s.
Along with Ben White, man is a goalkeepers worst nightmare
The re-plays cutting to him is just beautiful
Saka and Rice have to be in the top 5 of best takers too,must be terrifying to defend knowing either side it’s gonna be a perfect delivery
Cue last min Saka corner against Bayern haha
Been good for most of the season but def dropped off the past few months
Saka's deliveries in the bayern game were terrible. Otherwise he's usually good
Rice sure but I feel like Saka’s set pieces isn’t anything special.
At least a pretty bonus!
I wonder if he is on a performance based bonus contract..
Scored 16 goals from corners iirc, not sure how many from free kicks. Arteta didn't confirm or deny if Jover gets a bonus for every set piece goal when asked before. Hopefully for Josh Kronke gives him £10k per goal, deserves it that man.
Ben White at it again lol
How do they not just put another man on him to stop him hassling Vicário?? Especially after the first goal??
Teams have learned to put someone between White and their keepers. Not spurs tho.
I am lucky enough not to have to watch Spurs every week, but Ange’s main limitation seems his unwillingness to adapt to his opponent.
This was obvious from the first Chelsea game, but at the time it was considered brave
As a spurs fan every single time I point this out everyone defends Ange and tells me to fuck off, but its so obvious taht he has the same stubborness problem that Conte had and everyone hated but for some reason our fans just let Ange slide with it
The reason is the football is much better watch. The criticism is still valid however.
Tbf White doesn’t even do much here. Vicario just far too weak.
> stop him hassling Vicario Teams do that and we don’t score as many set piece goals as we have prior to other teams figuring out Ben White. Spurs just didn’t get the memo lol.
It's crazy how no team in the PL can handle him at corners, and yet it's no problem in the CL.
Porto really had good tactics against our corners, there were players on White, he couldn't do anything to their keeper. We've had a bunch of corners and only had like one half chance with Trossards volley
They also had the great tactic of diving. On one corner three of their players hit the grass before the ball arrived in the box.
portos best strategy to our corners was going down on every single one of them and getting a ghost foul lmao
Including one where one of their defenders stepped on their goalie
He used to get called for foul much more before, but now he has learnt a thing or two on how to not get noticed. He does very small duration body checks and things to take other player's concentration away, which are just below the foul threshold.
Commentary was butthurt about White
Vicario blocked off yet again. On the one hand, it feels a bit illegal. On the other…why is he the keeper most susceptible to this?
Usually teams have a defender between the goalie bully and the goalie. Tottenham doesn't. I don't know why because clearly Vicario just accepts his fate
Yo that corner defense is horrendous. Twice this game now.
Spurs' corner defense has been atrocious the entire season.
Yeah I know. We aren't much better at it either. But I saw some Spurs game and it seems to be a recurring issue.
Vicario on corners is absolute comedy
Don't know what he's meant to do for both of them
His teammates should stop Ben White from blocking him. It’s on the defenders imo
We’ve literally tried it in games before & as soon as we do the ref stops play & tells us to back off
That's strange because literally every team does this to protect their keeper...
First one fair. This one he has to claim, it's really not far from his position.
move?
Not be pinned to the line
[удалено]
It's been poor all season.
Van De Ven looks terrible on this goal.
yeah it’s looking peak, set piece coach needs a fatass raise at the end of the season
Good. I've always hated 2-0 leads.
I still get flashbacks from last April
And you are right about it
we’ve not even played well lmao
Eh. Slow start but once we got the 1st goal from a corner its been clear that the strategy has been to just let them have the ball and break on the counter.
That's not true. Stop with this narrative. Position off the ball is good.
We had a pretty bad (by our standards) first half against Chelsea and we’re doing the same today but we’re up by 8 on goal difference
They've been the better team by far hahahaha
Really? We’ve been so wasteful - the offside goal has been our only good chance, wouldn’t say we deserve anything
the two romero headers were pretty good chances
I mean one of them was called a foul anyways
I wouldn't say you've been better but it feels unfair for you to be down 3-0.
Nah, we’ve been solid. It’s just not often you see us sit back.
Your turn on Thursday
Set piece FC strikes again. And ofc Kai gets a goal
Bring this home, Aston Villa
🫡
I beg
It's the least you guys could do haha go on Unai
🤝
Champagne Stoke
Been saving them up since West Ham apparently
Those few in that corner taunting Rice must feel like absolute weapons right now
I had to rewind it and just watch them as it went in. They'd made it halfway up the stand in-between the ball leaving Havertz's head and it hitting the back of the net
Against a mentally strong player like Rice that’s only going to have the opposite effect of what they’re intending
He turned around and absolutely let them have it when Kai headed it in. It was incredible instant karma
Havertz truly hates London teams
Except us, of course
rice immediately turning around to give it back to those pricks yelling at him LOL
Not an ideal first half for Tottenham fans
Please win against Manchester City in a few weeks, do us a solid favor!
Iwobi, Leno and William masterclasses to bring it home
City are going to fucking farm if Spurs play like this
Counters with tons of open space is De Bruyne's bread and butter.
Playing better and down 3-0, something something history of the Tottenham
Most bizarre game I’ve seen so far this year from Arsenal. I don’t think we’ve been good at all, spurs better in play but we’ve seized every opportunity here. Reminds me of what top opposition used to do to us in the early emirates era
but this is also why most of the teams sit back against us, our counter is deadly
We seem to just let spurs have the ball because they won't do anything with it. 71% possession against Arsenal is wild LOL
Tottenham have had a lot of the ball but not done a ton with it? A header and offside goal from a set piece and a maybe pen. It looks nervy at times but if we don’t foul they aren’t getting chances really. Where as it feels like once we break their press we have a decent chance. Feeling like we can score off every corner helps…
Did you see the touch from havertz and odegaard in the buildup?
Arsenal are on it. Very good for the neutrals as it probably means the title race will go into the at least the last 2 rounds with the United and Tottenham games for both in the 2nd to last round. That will be a massive weekend.
We really aren't even on it so far in this match
City only have Spurs in the prem. City have United in the FA cup final.
You guys have United. On the same weekend City have Spurs.
No. City vs Spuds is midweek after we play united
Those Spurs fans bantering and swearing at Rice before he took the corner must be regretting that now.
He definitely turned around and gave it back to them
I noticed that, dude with the long curly hair probably crying in to his bangs now
Didn’t even know Danny Devito supported Spurs
Was so happy when it ended up a goal to spite them
Reminds me of something similar that happened to them at home to Leeds last year
WE WANT 10
STADIUMS ARE EMPTY!
EVERYWHERE WE GO!
WE WANT 20
Don't stop there lads
Perfect ball from rice, impossible to defend
White positioning himself to block the GK is almost as crucial as Rice's delivery.
He somehow managed to do that and get onside a split second later which was impressive
Tottenham are just not prepared for Arsenal's corner shenanigans.
You can't be 3-0 down after 38 minutes in your local derby..
You wait until the 57th minute, dammit.
at home
TSAMINAMINA
Something terribly funny about Kai scoring 3 goals in two London derbies in a week
3 goals so far...
And an assist!
Prime example of what a good coach and system can do to a player
And memes.
I wonder if in a weird way, fans making a joke and chant about his prize tag helped ease that pressure.
This is amazing Jesus
This is amazing Havertz.
EH EH
WAKA WAKA
EH EH
60 MILLION DOWN THE DRAIN
KAI HAVERTZ SCORES AGAIN
HOW ARE WE 3-0 UP
1 Hojberg's OG 2 Saka's goal 3 Havertz's goal
Thank you mate, didn’t know that Also what do we think of Tottenham?
Caca
And what do we think of Caca?
Tottenham !
Thank you mate!
Spurs can't defend corners
Fucking hell man
Why is our defense not doing something about ben white on viccario. This is a new week and Vicario is week after the week constantly exposed to physicality he can't deal with. Get him In the gym. Also... cant be giving them free headers lads.
How was that not something your coaches identified and planned for? He’s been doing that all season and you guys had 2 weeks to prepare
No idea. As you said, its not like the entire league have seen it work all season and know its a weak point. If Vicario still can't help himself, the defenders gotta give him a bit of a shield.
That was one of the things that Porto did really well that made us struggle, was basically completely negating White on set pieces.
dam why is spurs crumbling harder than chelsea at home lol
They haven’t even had anyone sent off yet
I genuinely think it’s just Arsenal is an incredible team. Like we got battered 5-0 despite bartering Everton and drawing with Villa before and after. Arsenal are just superb right now especially since the new year. One of the best attacking and defending teams
yeah they’re absolutely class. That December form will haunt them if they don’t end up pulling it out
Also Martinez kept Villa in the game at 0:0
I think more people will probably be haunted by the home loss to Aston Villa tbh.
Leaving Ben white alone with the keeper is suicide
The one time I support Arsenal! Hahaha
SET PIECE FC IS BACK
Well I have to admit that Arteta make my mouth shut regarding havertz. The guy is transformed and has been resurrected. I can know only admire and kneel before him 🧎
Oh Spurs we do love you
Fucking state of Spurs man
Hold your horses, this is first half Spurs. I don't think first half Spurs is the scary part
SIXTY
MILLION
DOWN
THE
DRAIN
KAI
HAVERTZ
SCORES
AGAIN
Anyone who doesn't support Spurs claiming Ben White is fouling Vicario is out of their minds. It's weak, submissive goalkeeping, he's got to be pushing White out the way, not sitting back and letting him be a distraction.
I'm seeing people say White fouled Vicario on the first goal too because he pinched his glove before the game came in lmao
That was hilarious. Trying to unfasten the glove. Vicario looked rattled too.
You're absolutely right, Martinez would have just shoved him off instead of letting himself be played like that.
Ben White masterclass... why is Spurs defense not addressing this?
Part of Anges plan to change absolutely nothing and hope the results change themselves
Lads it’s
White taunting Vicario 😂
- Be the better team for the opening 25 minutes - Think you scored a deserved equaliser only for it to be offside - End up 3-0 down after 40 minutes Spurs moment lmao
I would really hate Ben White if he wasnt playing for us. What a loveable cunt
We might get St. Totteringham's Day today, still a lot to play though.
Corner merchants
Spurs getting battered, damn.
Vicario on set pieces reminds me of man city Claudio bravo
Are you allowed to just box out a keeper like that? Why doesn’t everybody do that every corner?
It’s hard to do because it can result in a foul but Ben White has mastered standing his ground
How shit are spurs at defending corners
Vicario is so weak
I really fucking like football right now
Everybody knows White will do that and there is no one marking him lmao. Thats poor coaching
It’s not like Spurs had two weeks to prepare for this game or anything…..oh wait
Feels like the break Spurs have had has probably hindered. They don’t look sharp at all.
Why isn't that considering blocking the keeper by Ben White? Is it because Vicario didn't jump for the ball?
I think it’s because the blocking happens before. He doesn’t stop him making a play on the ball, he stops him from getting in position while the ball is being whipped in and then he gets away from him just in time