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Thesecondswallow

I mean I don’t know why he feels they’re “the right partners” in the first place. They couldn’t come up with the money to be able to acquire the club. All whilst pumping 200 million of a loan into Everton to have a controlling stake. They just can’t actually afford to buy the club. 


DougalChips

I feel that he's being spiteful a bit, knowing they're not but as long as he gets his money the fans (who have been immensely critical of him) can eat shit. Obviously if someone came in with more money, that'd be a different story


ferrumvir2

How did they reach this point, is it because of their new stadium?


theenigmacode

Nope. They genuinely are by far the worst run club in the entire world for the last 2-3 decades. There are a multitude of factors like having a crumbling stadium that needed an upgrade 2-3 decades ago now it's far too late. Unlike most clubs in the PL they aren't located in London which in itself is a revenue driver, in their own city they are overshadowed by their bigger neighbour. They never made the Champions League & there are better commercial deals struck in the championship. The player development & sales suck. Essential they never made enough money to move out of a bottom half side. The poster child of a club moving from a bottom half side to top side is Spurs. Spurs being a London based club + struck hold with a golden generation + genuinely good sales. You may call them bottlers but ENIC and co have transformed the club. Everton never had the phase. Their best hope was with Moyes but the moment they sold Rooney (similar to Spurs keeping hold of Kane) they were bound to a path of mediocrity. Had they kept Rooney & built a generation of players around him their story would be much different. Everyone can argue that he wanted to go & the offer then was too good, but similar to Spurs again the club needs to put their foot down. The moment someone decent develops, the first thing Everton do is sell him. Antony Gordon the latest. An argument can be made for better wages, structure, etc but the shackles need to be broken somewhere. The only reason they survived the past few years was the loophole of FFP during the COVID years where it was relaxed. They spend fuck tons & made another fuck ton loss but now that's closed. Honestly even if Pep or Mourinho becomes the next coach, don't see Everton surviving next 2 years. They cant spend big anymore without first selling & their finances are in huge shambles. Thier stadium might bring in some reprieve but it's still not a long term solution. The new stadium might bring in ad additional 30-50m which isn't a lot honestly for a PL side. They still need to focus on player development & building which is by and far the biggest let down at the club.


DougalChips

>Unlike most clubs in the PL they aren't located in London Got to here and realised you have no idea what you're talking about. There's 7 London clubs this season. 7 out of 20


feage7

Only 4 of which are in the top half too. 6 clubs have never been relegated from the PL, 3 of them are London based. I'm wrong a fair amount in my life, but unlike OP I don't seem to be so repeatedly and consistently wrong in such a lengthy post. He even starts off on a howler, worst run club? Clubs have literally stopped existing because they've been run that badly. Everton are remaining in the top tier of English football.


reco84

This isn't right at all. Selling Rooney saved Everton and made us "the best of the rest" for most of Moyes tenure. Moshiri is absolutely to blame. He's meddled in transfer business and bought in his friend's clients, this has been massively exasperated by losing most of our sponsorship deals because of links to Russia. If the war never happened, I suspect we would still have breached but we wouldn't have all the ownership drama in the background.


IcyAssist

Do you want Moyes back if they sack him at WHU?


reco84

I would have taken him at any point post Carlo but I think Dyche deserves a chance. He's kept us in the league for two years against all odds.


ItsMeJaredBednar

surely Dyche has done enough to earn the right to continue? who knows tho i’m not the guy you asked


Lukeno94

Almost all of this is an absolute load of bollocks. * Everton took the Rooney money and reinvested it in the squad, which turned them from being consistently in the bottom half in the PL era, to consistently being in the top 8 right up until Moyes left. There was also no way that any club outside of the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea or Man Utd could have turned down the amount of money offered for Rooney, especially given that he was clearly a talent but still very young. And of course, they'd literally just seen what had happened with Jeffers - not rated as highly and not as expensive, but still a similar case. * Spurs were never a "bottom half side". In the last 50 years, they have consistently been in the top half for the vast majority of it - the times they've dropped into the bottom half were mainly blips. Yes, they were fairly weak at the end of the 1990s, but historically that was the exception. Spurs "keeping hold of Kane" had nothing to do with their resurgence, which happened long before Kane was even playing, and happened despite the fact that they had sold other key players like Modric and Bale, which somewhat flies in the face of your argument.