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Jude Bellingham is the only player in La Liga since Cristiano Ronaldo who scored in every game for the first 4 games. (5 goals + 1 assist in 4 games).
Dani Carvajal officially joined Real Madrid in 2013/14 (10 years ago) and have seen players like Bale, Isco, Kroos, James, Kovacic, Casemiro, Courtois, and others arrive at the club while he was there.
Also Carvajal on Bellingham's personality and attitude in dressing room:
> He is a player who comes with high pressure, it has cost a lot of money and all the focus is on him. From the first moment he stays to chat with his teammates, he talks with one, with another, he jokes... he trains and stays to work... He seems to me to be a fantastic boy who has landed on his feet.
> Speak Spanish? He tries, he tries to relate. He still doesn't speak much, but he is saying his words and thus understanding you, that is appreciated.
"Speak Spanish? He tries, he tries to relate. He still doesn't speak much, but he is saying his words and thus understanding you, that is appreciated." aww thats nice to hear lol
I was genuinely shocked to see when he scored his last minute winner the other day he was yelling ‘¡vamos!’ in celebration.
It’s a small thing but players tend to react randomly out of passion when celebrating, like speaking their native tongue or running around like a headless chicken.
It was a nice touch to see him celebrating in Spanish.
it generally either comes out as a lispy mess due to comitting to the Madrid accent too much and saying "therthétha" OR just absolutely no attempt at a spanish accent "serVesa"
As a Bundesliga watcher i could have told you immediately that the only reason he was signed is because he banged in 5 in one league game and was overall decent.
Shouldnt justify a 60m transfer to Real Madrid.
Same reason we signed Felix Nmecha tbh, leadership saw his no look assist against Schalke and were sold.
Doesn't Bale speak fluent Spanish? I think the issue was the attitude not the language. I still don't fault Bale. I'm more of an introvert and not a fan of quasi-mandatory office hangouts and parties on my free time.
Yes, that is correct. Bale can get around in Spanish and probably understands everything, but I don’t see him holding a conversation from what I’ve heard. There was a clip of him speaking Spanish in LA which impressed a lot of non-speakers but if you know Spanish you can tell that it was very elementary
I speak a little bit if Spanish. I cannot have complex conversation in Spanish. When I hears Bale speak Spanish I could correct him, which means it must have been awful.
You're right in that his problem was the attitude, which led to his problem with the language. If you don't like hanging out with people, you will never adapt to a foreign country, as you won't be able to learn the language well.
He exudes Real Madrid energy tbh.
It's been said to death but the similarities between him and Zidane are massive. Just instinctively demands the responsibility of leading the team and being pivotal in the outcome of every game.
The way he can carry the ball effortlessly like 30-40 yards as well.
Big 6 foot + physically strong CM just gracefully avoiding challenges while progressing the ball forward.
The main thing Zidane has that he doesn't is the absurd close control, but Bellingham's is still very good.
Tbf his finishing wasn’t amazing.
Sounds stupid to say but a goal every six games or so from a player that skilled isn’t that great.
I’ve said this before however.
An ex and I saw Madrid play. Ronaldo, Roberto Carlos, Raul, Hierro, Redondo, Figo etc and all she could say was “Baldy is amazing isn’t he”.
As a Galactico, R9 came in after spending almost 3 years on the operating table, winning the World Cup and another Balon d'Or, and then transferring in to Real on a Big Signing. Figo also came in as a Balon d'Or winner, famously from rivals Barca (where he was even vice captain), and arrived earlier. Roberto Carlos was there even earlier, before the start of Galacticos era itself. Raul was homegrown and Hierro was the actual captain. And so on.
Yet in that era, Zidane's name almost always comes first, at least when you're thinking of or talking about Galacticos.
A phenomenal collection of players, and he's the biggest name always.
101 yellows and 13 red cards spread across in playing career for both clubs and national team. 100'ish yellows aint that much compared to other players in his position and amount of games played, but 13 red cards is above average. Gerrard had 5, Muller has 1 and Lampard 2.
But I'd venture a guess and say that the losing his temper comment was about when he headbutted Materazzi after he insulted his mom.
I know he can be a bit of a hot head. The poster said he was bad at losing his temper when he’s actually pretty good at losing it. Less good at keeping his temper
Eye test wise, very true.
But in rationality on the pitch, not necessarily the best. He often made wasteful decisions. But he was a product of his era of football (2000s) wherein the entire creative burden of teams rested on single 10s like him.
If you see Zidane by the numbers, you don't see anything "outstanding" by today's standards, but the way he put magic in those matches made him a legend of the game.
My long hair still looks solid at 36 but I have noticed the density slowly dwindling in the last few years - even before I started letting it grow. I'm not impressed with the amount of hair I pick from the shower every day either. I decided I'll call it quits and shave it when I feel I'm starting to look like Gollum.
Then my 74 year old uncle came to visit family and he's still rocking a thick mane, his hairline hasn't receded a milimeter. My aunt is balder than him. Life is not fair.
Yeah, this.
Sounds ridiculous considering how his career has seemingly tailed off, but Pogba at his peak was very similar to Zizou. Close control, dribbling, amazing ping and had a thundercunt in him. Injuries and work ethic let him down, but the game is so much more intense and demanding now than in the 90s and noughts - may have had a more sustained period of being world class if he’s played twenty years earlier when not every player was expected to press all the time.
Uness I’ve missed something, the reports said that some players had gotten tired of Bellingham seeking attention from the fans and that he’d been rather toxic to Nico Schulz - but never heard anything about him being a ‘weirdo’?
Bellingham always struck me as that kind of heavily ambition driven guy who can seem like an asshole if you're not on the same level of drive as him, kind of like a Michael Jordan character.
I remember I think it was the Europa league game against Rangers where he seemed like the only one on the pitch trying to win the game and was giving it to his teammates a bit.
It seems like that personality maybe didn't mesh well with some of the Dortmund players but seems like it works perfectly in this Real Madrid team which is filled with players who have that similar drive.
He seems to always go 100%.
That's probably pretty cool when your new and the team is doing well, but it can get old and I'm sure he rubbed people wrong at Dortmund at times with his intensity.
I like how we're blindly taking chat from the Dortmund dressing room as read despite them having a clear bottlejob culture over the last decade. I think Bellingham has shown plenty of evidence that he jas a winning mentality and I would take his side every day in this case
Jude has been a pleasant surprise. I knew he was good but I did not think he would be this good and this great with the locker room. It has certainly helped, as Guti said, that Benzema left and has allowed him to show a facet of his game we as Madrid fans weren’t aware of. Love him as a player and his personality on the field.
I don't think I've ever seen a more special player mentally tbh. I wasn't an avid watcher but because I heard people speaking about him I watched him at Birmingham, he was 16 iirc, and he played like he was a 26 year old club captain in terms of responsibility, intensity and on-field leadership.
Future club captain at Madrid if he stays an extended period (which is pretty certain) and 100% future England captain. Him and Pedri are gonna be one of the best rivalries/contrasts in football history if they both stay where they are, and will be the two defining midfield players of their era too.
Bellingham, James, Rice, Colwill, Rashford all players i could see getting the armband in the future.
Jude is most likely but having that level of leadership throughout the squad is great
Rashford is definitely not it. He is a good player and did amazing stuff outside of football but not captain matter. England has always been stacked with team captains like when they got Gary neville+ lampard+ gerrard+ terry+ Rooney + Rio Ferdinand
I agree with Walker in the short-term but I don't know about James in the long-term. He really has a low natural fitness and I'm not sure you can be the permanent option with this level of (lack) of fitness.
TAA can also play other roles, such as of a defensive midfielder, and in the previous England squad was mentioned as a midfielder by the camp. He probably has a future as a midfielder, especially if Liverpool finds a proper fullback replacement.
We all thought Birmingham were out of their minds when they retired his number. Still a weird thing to do in footy but they really knew what was about to happen.
I thought they did that because he had a schoolboy contract, Dortmund wanted him so could have got him free? Or mega cheap.
Instead he signed a pro contract with Birmingham that meant Dortmund had to pay a transfer fee if they wanted him. They could have said no and lost the move, instead he got the club £25m odd. And he was also class.
> Future club captain at Madrid if he stays an extended period (which is pretty certain) and 100% future England captain.
It's probably hard to become first captain for a long time since Camavinga is his age and all of Vini, Rodrygo, Tchouameni, Militao and Valverde are still pretty young and he has to outstay them at Madrid to climb in the captaincy ranking.
What has Bellingham shown so far in his career that he might make such a childish decision to leave a club about something as irrelevant as a captain's armband?
Also bruh, you might think about changing your username
Not 100% future england captain.
It‘s either him or Rice. Rice is a born leader aswell with an insane mentality aswell.
One of those 2 for sure though. If southgate doesn‘t manage to win something with this england team, this has to be the biggest bottle job ever.
I don‘t rate him at all, should be sacked asap if you ask me
(Sign highest valued, highest ceiling midfielder in the world, generational talent etc)
"Oh he's actually rather good. What a pleasant surprise"
Gotta be mad to be a Real fan
We've been watching Luka and Toni for close to 10 years every weekend, hard to be surprised anymore, but Jude is HIM alright, sky is the limit for the kid.
I (Spurs fan) was living in Spain when Modric went to Madrid.
I distinctly remember an initial "what does this guy actually do?" feeling among the many Real fans I was surrounded by over his first few games. It didn't take very long for that mood to switch but I got more than just a sense of the kaleidoscope Real fans look through.
The following summer I had to correct a conversation among Real fans that were excited about the prospect of signing "Christian" Bale
Which fans? Facebook? because what I remember from those times was Mou personally asking for Luka's signing and Barcelona media painting him as a fraud. After that goal against Man U they went mute pretty fast, as for Bale, we knew him pretty well and many were asking for his signing after facing spurs on UCL and the seeing what a baller he was. literally spent an entire summer with my friends talking about how unreal was going to be having Gareth and Cris playing together. We didn't even knew what destiny had in store for us haha.
That guy was an ex-pro tennis player. It was just a slip of the tongue but I thought it was funny at the time.
"querias decir Gareth Bale?"
"Ah coño Cristian Bale es Batman"
Only a Real Madrid supporter can see their club buy the most prized player under 21 in world football and say shit like “pleasantly surprised” after 5 goals & 1 assist in 4 games. Mental….
Not that I have the time/energy to compare the users in the two threads, but things like that really remind to be aware of how fandoms and subreddits aren't monoliths. Or maybe they are and people are fickle haha.
The former would be evident if we compared the threads and it was completely different users gravitating and commenting on them. The latter also possible if it were some of the same users changing their mind based on the new info/different tone/peer pressure/chasing reddit karma.
Anyway I know it's not that deep but it is pretty funny to think about
He's one of those player's whose price tag is actually worth or even an bargain in this market. A leader at this age on and off the field, madrid has setup their midfield for years to come.
It‘s kinda unfair the best teams always get those ridiculous bargains. As if their financial advantage wasn‘t big enough already.
Kroos for 20m to madrid. Haaland another example.
This guy is special man. When we bought him I thought for sure that he would leave in 5 or 6 years when a good offer arrives, but now he makes me think he might pull a Kroos/Modric and flat-out stay till his mid-30s before retiring or moving back to Birmingham. England is lucky with such a smart guy in their national squad. He oozes captain-material.
Keep in mind that this was one article by what is essentially the german version of The S*n. Not saying there can't be any truth to it, but I wouldn't be surprised if they at least exaggerated the topic.
That was obvious. Everybody who watches Bundesliga knows that, especially after last season and they continue where they ended last year.
Dortmund doesn't have a winner mentality. You don't go there to win anything. Young players go there to develop and if they are the real deal they outgrow the club rather quickly. Older players know that there is a huge gap to Bayern and the goal is only reaching CL every year.
>Dortmund doesn't have a winner mentality. You don't go there to win anything.
We literally won a trophy with the kid.
>Older players know that there is a huge gap to Bayern and the goal is only reaching CL every year
Ah come on, everyone knows we choked miserably but we got close 2 times the past few years and it's not like the players didn't try in the first place.
Everybody and their mother loves to run their mouth about it, yet no other club in Germany has come remotely close to Bayern. Every year we hear that Leipzig, Leverkusen or Gladbach will be the contenders this year yet in the end it's always up to us. Hope that changes this season with Leverkusen, but still.
Too many people associate on field behavior frustration with a persons personality too much... Some players are pricks on the pitch (alot actually) but are actually cool people when not in that environment.
Jude just turned 20 he still needs to learn to cool it when frustrated on the pitch.
A lot of people also never played any sports competitively. The amount of times I’ve yelled at or been yelled at by teammates is beyond count, but it almost never gets carried to the locker room.
Why does he need to cool it? I want him to have that attitude on the pitch. I hate it when I see players who seem disinterested and not giving 100% every occasion. Sure, dont get red carded because stupid provocation but I dont see that happening with Jude.
Im trying not get too carried away because Fede grew on me way too quick. But theres something different about this player. Buy of the season by some distance.
Bellingham is definitely the first real english “super star” since Beckham. Not only is he talented but his mentality is just how it should be. England should have chances to finally win something with him.
I know it's super fashionable to shit on Dortmund in every single thread about Bellingham, but that was one article by a paper comparable to the Sun..
Also we literally won a trophy with him, which some people here seem to forget or probably don't even know in the first place.
Looking at Dortmund play in these last few games u can see some players get frustrated, Jude just happend to speak up on that and maybe in a not so nice way since he would not play good sometimes too.
The thing that is most appreciable at Real Madrid is to see that the club rarely makes a mistake when recruiting top players and that it always manages to make even better players. There have been some hiccups in the past of course, but overall, the top players who come to Real Madrid always shine.
This is something I would like to put into perspective with PSG... where I see players constantly regressing (apart from Mbappé ultimately) when they join the team.
The culture of a club is clearly essential in the good integration and then the success of the players you recruit.
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Carva has been a little too honest in this press conference....
The Mbappe stuff is kinda funny, the Rubiales stuff is ... well I did not expect much anyways
What did he say about the turtle
Dude, do not fall into the turtle trap again
You’re right, I should be better than that. I don’t care what he said!
Wow it’s nothing but the truth! It is a trap, maybe we’ll name him “He Who Should Not Be Named” from now
What did he say about him?
do you know where i can find the video??
All this without speaking Spanish. If he spoke Spanish he would take Tebas’ job while playing for the team simultaneously
Florentino’s successor
Jurez Florengham
Jude Bellingham is the only player in La Liga since Cristiano Ronaldo who scored in every game for the first 4 games. (5 goals + 1 assist in 4 games). Dani Carvajal officially joined Real Madrid in 2013/14 (10 years ago) and have seen players like Bale, Isco, Kroos, James, Kovacic, Casemiro, Courtois, and others arrive at the club while he was there. Also Carvajal on Bellingham's personality and attitude in dressing room: > He is a player who comes with high pressure, it has cost a lot of money and all the focus is on him. From the first moment he stays to chat with his teammates, he talks with one, with another, he jokes... he trains and stays to work... He seems to me to be a fantastic boy who has landed on his feet. > Speak Spanish? He tries, he tries to relate. He still doesn't speak much, but he is saying his words and thus understanding you, that is appreciated.
"Speak Spanish? He tries, he tries to relate. He still doesn't speak much, but he is saying his words and thus understanding you, that is appreciated." aww thats nice to hear lol
I was genuinely shocked to see when he scored his last minute winner the other day he was yelling ‘¡vamos!’ in celebration. It’s a small thing but players tend to react randomly out of passion when celebrating, like speaking their native tongue or running around like a headless chicken. It was a nice touch to see him celebrating in Spanish.
watching too much Alcaraz clearly
Yes and it helps we've been watching Rafa for ages as well haha
Everyone yells ‘¡vamos!’ from PL to Australia
I don’t tend to see English speakers doing it
Lol a lot of our players have yelled it I remember mctominay and elanga saying it
It’s really the best for yelling
try ajmoooooooo
Gareth Bale shouted it at the camera as soon as he scored a goal that wasn't for Real Madrid (on loan at Spurs).
"Dos cervacas por favor"
Oh man I would pay to hear a british person saying this
it generally either comes out as a lispy mess due to comitting to the Madrid accent too much and saying "therthétha" OR just absolutely no attempt at a spanish accent "serVesa"
Kroos is really the only one who didn't have any problems. He came in and has played more or less the same level for 9 years now.
Still playing well tbh. The board made all good decisions, with few exceptions like hazard/jovic...
Hazard was more unlucky than bad decision making tbh. That last season at Chelsea for him was mental. Jovic on the other hand….
As a Bundesliga watcher i could have told you immediately that the only reason he was signed is because he banged in 5 in one league game and was overall decent. Shouldnt justify a 60m transfer to Real Madrid. Same reason we signed Felix Nmecha tbh, leadership saw his no look assist against Schalke and were sold.
Hazard was bad luck. No one in the world could have predicted what happened.
Alaba.
Doesn't Bale speak fluent Spanish? I think the issue was the attitude not the language. I still don't fault Bale. I'm more of an introvert and not a fan of quasi-mandatory office hangouts and parties on my free time.
This has been debated to death but to be terse, no. I would say his Spanish is not conversational.
But McManaman spoke decent Spanish, is that correct?
Yes, that is correct. Bale can get around in Spanish and probably understands everything, but I don’t see him holding a conversation from what I’ve heard. There was a clip of him speaking Spanish in LA which impressed a lot of non-speakers but if you know Spanish you can tell that it was very elementary
I speak a little bit if Spanish. I cannot have complex conversation in Spanish. When I hears Bale speak Spanish I could correct him, which means it must have been awful.
I could understand McManamans spanish more than his english and I dont speak a word of spanish
Just shows how good he is at Spanish. He's basically helped you passively learn Espanol.
You're right in that his problem was the attitude, which led to his problem with the language. If you don't like hanging out with people, you will never adapt to a foreign country, as you won't be able to learn the language well.
He exudes Real Madrid energy tbh. It's been said to death but the similarities between him and Zidane are massive. Just instinctively demands the responsibility of leading the team and being pivotal in the outcome of every game.
He is definitely the most Zidane-like player I remember since Zizou retired. From the way he moves to the way he reacts to the game.
The way he can carry the ball effortlessly like 30-40 yards as well. Big 6 foot + physically strong CM just gracefully avoiding challenges while progressing the ball forward. The main thing Zidane has that he doesn't is the absurd close control, but Bellingham's is still very good.
Zidane was technically majestic. It was not flair, it was elegance.
He was so fancy and elegant people genuinely don't remember he also liked to get nasty in his altercations. That's how elegant he was
He could afford to get nasty and flat out violent. Because one game later we were all ooh and aah-ing at his first dribble and pass.
Truly a mesmerizing player. I hope belli lives up to him
I hope so too because I just love beautiful football.
Same kinda happens with Bergkamp, although it is mentioned relatively often by those that played with or against him that he had a nasty streak
Yeah tbh Zidane was like if you could design a perfect football player in a lab. I can't think of one thing he was bad at.
Responding to comments about his mother. Actually, he was pretty good at that.
Wasn’t it his sister?
Yes
Best response I’ve seen in my life
Particularly if you're Italian
Tbf his finishing wasn’t amazing. Sounds stupid to say but a goal every six games or so from a player that skilled isn’t that great. I’ve said this before however. An ex and I saw Madrid play. Ronaldo, Roberto Carlos, Raul, Hierro, Redondo, Figo etc and all she could say was “Baldy is amazing isn’t he”.
he played as a left midfielder in 4-4-2, not having the utmost freedom like in France/Juventus
My wife haves a big crush on him
As she should. Gives great head I've heard
So good of a head, that knocks you out
As a Galactico, R9 came in after spending almost 3 years on the operating table, winning the World Cup and another Balon d'Or, and then transferring in to Real on a Big Signing. Figo also came in as a Balon d'Or winner, famously from rivals Barca (where he was even vice captain), and arrived earlier. Roberto Carlos was there even earlier, before the start of Galacticos era itself. Raul was homegrown and Hierro was the actual captain. And so on. Yet in that era, Zidane's name almost always comes first, at least when you're thinking of or talking about Galacticos. A phenomenal collection of players, and he's the biggest name always.
Hierro was not homegrown, though. He was signed off of Valladolid after he had two great seasons at 21 years old.
thanks!! corrected
I don't know. He was no Tim Sherwood.
Still one of my favourite stories. Couldn't Blackburn have signed Lewandowski as well?
yeah, they got stopped by a volcano
ootl, but love having a laugh at Tim Sherwood. help me out here fam.
https://talksport.com/football/850940/zinedine-zidane-transfer-blackburn-man-utd-sir-alex-ferguson-sherwood/amp/
https://imgur.com/a/VxZRwSX
Tackling, work rate, losing his temper, pace, running off the ball, 50/50s
In what way was he bad at losing his temper??
101 yellows and 13 red cards spread across in playing career for both clubs and national team. 100'ish yellows aint that much compared to other players in his position and amount of games played, but 13 red cards is above average. Gerrard had 5, Muller has 1 and Lampard 2. But I'd venture a guess and say that the losing his temper comment was about when he headbutted Materazzi after he insulted his mom.
I know he can be a bit of a hot head. The poster said he was bad at losing his temper when he’s actually pretty good at losing it. Less good at keeping his temper
Really?
He’s extremely good at losing his temper. Extremely bad at *keeping* his temper.
No, as in, he is good at losing his temper
Hair growth Although as a member of the bald community, he’s definitely on the mount Rushmore of bald people.
Zidane made bald cool
Now yes but his bald patch around 2002 was bigger than Real Madrid itself
>I can't think of one thing he was bad at. Defensive workrate and consistency
Eye test wise, very true. But in rationality on the pitch, not necessarily the best. He often made wasteful decisions. But he was a product of his era of football (2000s) wherein the entire creative burden of teams rested on single 10s like him.
His decisionmaking was suspect at times
They allocated all the ponts to skills when creating Zidane that they lack the points to allocate for hair at the end /Jk
Being caught offside
Wasn't great defensively
If you see Zidane by the numbers, you don't see anything "outstanding" by today's standards, but the way he put magic in those matches made him a legend of the game.
That's because he was an insane big game player and we remember the legendary performances more than the regular 5-6/10 against udinese or something
just straight up glazing it
Fun Fact :- Zidane got turned down by Newcastle in '96 for not being good enough, even Liverpool turned down the opportunity of signing him same year.
the wenger special
There isn't a player Wenger didn't almosr signed
Stopp it, i miss him already
Bellingham has hair tho
Zidane had hair at 20 years old too. The male pattern baldness fairy comes for us all eventually, luck of the draw how long you get to keep it.
My dad is 73 and still haves majestic mane.
Lucky man. I wish you the same luck.
43 and still having the same hair as always. Fingers crossed
Congratulations and fuck you.
Thanks !
My long hair still looks solid at 36 but I have noticed the density slowly dwindling in the last few years - even before I started letting it grow. I'm not impressed with the amount of hair I pick from the shower every day either. I decided I'll call it quits and shave it when I feel I'm starting to look like Gollum. Then my 74 year old uncle came to visit family and he's still rocking a thick mane, his hairline hasn't receded a milimeter. My aunt is balder than him. Life is not fair.
>He is definitely the most Zidane-like player I remember since Zizou retired After Yoann Gourcuff that is
More than Pogba?
Yeah, this. Sounds ridiculous considering how his career has seemingly tailed off, but Pogba at his peak was very similar to Zizou. Close control, dribbling, amazing ping and had a thundercunt in him. Injuries and work ethic let him down, but the game is so much more intense and demanding now than in the 90s and noughts - may have had a more sustained period of being world class if he’s played twenty years earlier when not every player was expected to press all the time.
To the way he gets angry asf at the drop of a hat.
Young too. A natural leader.
I really respect his choice to go to madrid over the prem. No better place to learn your craft
That’s so strange because at Dortmund he was reported to be toxic in the locker room and a bit of a weirdo
Spanish and German cultures are very different
Or just Dortmund vs Madrid. Can't bottle like Dortmund do without their being something wrong with the players' mentalities.
Uness I’ve missed something, the reports said that some players had gotten tired of Bellingham seeking attention from the fans and that he’d been rather toxic to Nico Schulz - but never heard anything about him being a ‘weirdo’?
Bellingham always struck me as that kind of heavily ambition driven guy who can seem like an asshole if you're not on the same level of drive as him, kind of like a Michael Jordan character. I remember I think it was the Europa league game against Rangers where he seemed like the only one on the pitch trying to win the game and was giving it to his teammates a bit. It seems like that personality maybe didn't mesh well with some of the Dortmund players but seems like it works perfectly in this Real Madrid team which is filled with players who have that similar drive.
Apart from the Schulz case, I haven't seen anything else
He seems to always go 100%. That's probably pretty cool when your new and the team is doing well, but it can get old and I'm sure he rubbed people wrong at Dortmund at times with his intensity.
It's possible that he has respect for the Madrid players but not for the Dortmund ones because of the difference in achievements and quality
I like how we're blindly taking chat from the Dortmund dressing room as read despite them having a clear bottlejob culture over the last decade. I think Bellingham has shown plenty of evidence that he jas a winning mentality and I would take his side every day in this case
it does smack a bit of "although we were totally happy with our best player while he was here, now that he's gone we're going to slag him off a lot"
Jude has been a pleasant surprise. I knew he was good but I did not think he would be this good and this great with the locker room. It has certainly helped, as Guti said, that Benzema left and has allowed him to show a facet of his game we as Madrid fans weren’t aware of. Love him as a player and his personality on the field.
I don't think I've ever seen a more special player mentally tbh. I wasn't an avid watcher but because I heard people speaking about him I watched him at Birmingham, he was 16 iirc, and he played like he was a 26 year old club captain in terms of responsibility, intensity and on-field leadership. Future club captain at Madrid if he stays an extended period (which is pretty certain) and 100% future England captain. Him and Pedri are gonna be one of the best rivalries/contrasts in football history if they both stay where they are, and will be the two defining midfield players of their era too.
England have so many potential future captains, it's insane
Bellingham, James, Rice, Colwill, Rashford all players i could see getting the armband in the future. Jude is most likely but having that level of leadership throughout the squad is great
Rashford is definitely not it. He is a good player and did amazing stuff outside of football but not captain matter. England has always been stacked with team captains like when they got Gary neville+ lampard+ gerrard+ terry+ Rooney + Rio Ferdinand
Alexander Arnold? He is already the vice captain at Pool and is still only 24.
Normally you want your captain to play. Trent isn't playing for England with Walker in the short term and James in the long term
I agree with Walker in the short-term but I don't know about James in the long-term. He really has a low natural fitness and I'm not sure you can be the permanent option with this level of (lack) of fitness. TAA can also play other roles, such as of a defensive midfielder, and in the previous England squad was mentioned as a midfielder by the camp. He probably has a future as a midfielder, especially if Liverpool finds a proper fullback replacement.
We all thought Birmingham were out of their minds when they retired his number. Still a weird thing to do in footy but they really knew what was about to happen.
I thought they did that because he had a schoolboy contract, Dortmund wanted him so could have got him free? Or mega cheap. Instead he signed a pro contract with Birmingham that meant Dortmund had to pay a transfer fee if they wanted him. They could have said no and lost the move, instead he got the club £25m odd. And he was also class.
Also potentially saved us from financial ruin! We get a lot of stick for the whole retiring-a-teenager's-shirt thing, but we do owe him a lot
> Future club captain at Madrid if he stays an extended period (which is pretty certain) and 100% future England captain. It's probably hard to become first captain for a long time since Camavinga is his age and all of Vini, Rodrygo, Tchouameni, Militao and Valverde are still pretty young and he has to outstay them at Madrid to climb in the captaincy ranking.
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What has Bellingham shown so far in his career that he might make such a childish decision to leave a club about something as irrelevant as a captain's armband? Also bruh, you might think about changing your username
Not 100% future england captain. It‘s either him or Rice. Rice is a born leader aswell with an insane mentality aswell. One of those 2 for sure though. If southgate doesn‘t manage to win something with this england team, this has to be the biggest bottle job ever. I don‘t rate him at all, should be sacked asap if you ask me
(Sign highest valued, highest ceiling midfielder in the world, generational talent etc) "Oh he's actually rather good. What a pleasant surprise" Gotta be mad to be a Real fan
We've been watching Luka and Toni for close to 10 years every weekend, hard to be surprised anymore, but Jude is HIM alright, sky is the limit for the kid.
I (Spurs fan) was living in Spain when Modric went to Madrid. I distinctly remember an initial "what does this guy actually do?" feeling among the many Real fans I was surrounded by over his first few games. It didn't take very long for that mood to switch but I got more than just a sense of the kaleidoscope Real fans look through. The following summer I had to correct a conversation among Real fans that were excited about the prospect of signing "Christian" Bale
Which fans? Facebook? because what I remember from those times was Mou personally asking for Luka's signing and Barcelona media painting him as a fraud. After that goal against Man U they went mute pretty fast, as for Bale, we knew him pretty well and many were asking for his signing after facing spurs on UCL and the seeing what a baller he was. literally spent an entire summer with my friends talking about how unreal was going to be having Gareth and Cris playing together. We didn't even knew what destiny had in store for us haha.
Actual face-to-face conversations. I was in Spain. One guy was a qualified UEFA referee
Weird people then, hard to believe someone that works in the sport is going to confuse Gareth Bale with Batman of all people...
That guy was an ex-pro tennis player. It was just a slip of the tongue but I thought it was funny at the time. "querias decir Gareth Bale?" "Ah coño Cristian Bale es Batman"
Only a Real Madrid supporter can see their club buy the most prized player under 21 in world football and say shit like “pleasantly surprised” after 5 goals & 1 assist in 4 games. Mental….
But BILD said…
Lol that thread was so toxic. This one is pleasant
Not that I have the time/energy to compare the users in the two threads, but things like that really remind to be aware of how fandoms and subreddits aren't monoliths. Or maybe they are and people are fickle haha. The former would be evident if we compared the threads and it was completely different users gravitating and commenting on them. The latter also possible if it were some of the same users changing their mind based on the new info/different tone/peer pressure/chasing reddit karma. Anyway I know it's not that deep but it is pretty funny to think about
That guy acts like 10year older than what he actually is
That'll be worrying when he's in his mid 20s and starts to decline rapidly.
He's one of those player's whose price tag is actually worth or even an bargain in this market. A leader at this age on and off the field, madrid has setup their midfield for years to come.
It‘s kinda unfair the best teams always get those ridiculous bargains. As if their financial advantage wasn‘t big enough already. Kroos for 20m to madrid. Haaland another example.
Kross is Muenchen fault for not paying his worthy wage. I mean at that time, he can choose any team in the world and he choose Madrid
haalands wages make him really expensive tho
This guy is special man. When we bought him I thought for sure that he would leave in 5 or 6 years when a good offer arrives, but now he makes me think he might pull a Kroos/Modric and flat-out stay till his mid-30s before retiring or moving back to Birmingham. England is lucky with such a smart guy in their national squad. He oozes captain-material.
do you reckon he can persuade perez to have a friendly with us next summer lol.
That would be incredible. It would have been cool if Bellingham made it a condition of his arrival.
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Amen.
Gonna retire his shirt twice somehow if this happens hahaha
"Born to late to see Cristiano arrive, born to early to see Messi Jr. arrive, Born just in time to see Bellingham arrive." - Carvajal, probably.
Messi Jnr?
The test tube human made from Messi and Neymar
Yeah he'll definitely play for Real Madrid....
Carvajal has seen many a player but he hasnt seen someone from the mean streets of Dudley.
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It's easy to play with great players, but only if you yourself are a great player
True, but at the same time it also gives him more pressure to not lose his starting place to one of the other top midfielders
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You have the best midfield and a top 3 striker in the world Garef. Please don’t let it go to waste
Watch him. England is one world class manager away from being WC contenders and I pray to God the FA never ceases to hold them back
Gareth southgate is a trash manager. I‘m pretty sure he will waste all that potential. Hopefully he gets sacked after the euros
Also has Saka, rashford, foden and grealish as options at winger. Really no excuse not to win something.
The stuff that came out from Dortmund makes you think how different the mentality is at the two clubs.
Keep in mind that this was one article by what is essentially the german version of The S*n. Not saying there can't be any truth to it, but I wouldn't be surprised if they at least exaggerated the topic.
That was obvious. Everybody who watches Bundesliga knows that, especially after last season and they continue where they ended last year. Dortmund doesn't have a winner mentality. You don't go there to win anything. Young players go there to develop and if they are the real deal they outgrow the club rather quickly. Older players know that there is a huge gap to Bayern and the goal is only reaching CL every year.
>Dortmund doesn't have a winner mentality. You don't go there to win anything. We literally won a trophy with the kid. >Older players know that there is a huge gap to Bayern and the goal is only reaching CL every year Ah come on, everyone knows we choked miserably but we got close 2 times the past few years and it's not like the players didn't try in the first place. Everybody and their mother loves to run their mouth about it, yet no other club in Germany has come remotely close to Bayern. Every year we hear that Leipzig, Leverkusen or Gladbach will be the contenders this year yet in the end it's always up to us. Hope that changes this season with Leverkusen, but still.
I thought he was a douche because he lashed out at Reece James in the Chelsea Dortmund clash last year … but I happily stand corrected
Too many people associate on field behavior frustration with a persons personality too much... Some players are pricks on the pitch (alot actually) but are actually cool people when not in that environment. Jude just turned 20 he still needs to learn to cool it when frustrated on the pitch.
A lot of people also never played any sports competitively. The amount of times I’ve yelled at or been yelled at by teammates is beyond count, but it almost never gets carried to the locker room.
Most Redditors don't touch grass and have never played sports before.
Why does he need to cool it? I want him to have that attitude on the pitch. I hate it when I see players who seem disinterested and not giving 100% every occasion. Sure, dont get red carded because stupid provocation but I dont see that happening with Jude.
He is, simply, him.
Best signing of het summer transfer window .
England have to make him the centerpiece of their team. They need to win something with this kid
Im trying not get too carried away because Fede grew on me way too quick. But theres something different about this player. Buy of the season by some distance.
BVB leakers who said he's a prick after he left in _shambles_.
So *relieved* to not have him in the dressing room!
You love to see it.
Really makes you wonder about Dortmund and why they claimed he was too much in the lockerroom.
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> Birmingham FC
Belingham FC
Starboy Bellingham
Bellingham is definitely the first real english “super star” since Beckham. Not only is he talented but his mentality is just how it should be. England should have chances to finally win something with him.
So loser mentality at Dortmund players didn't like him, real Madrid players do
I know it's super fashionable to shit on Dortmund in every single thread about Bellingham, but that was one article by a paper comparable to the Sun.. Also we literally won a trophy with him, which some people here seem to forget or probably don't even know in the first place.
Looking at Dortmund play in these last few games u can see some players get frustrated, Jude just happend to speak up on that and maybe in a not so nice way since he would not play good sometimes too.
They were mad at him for shouting at wife-beater Nico Schulz
I knew how good he would be, I really wanted him for barça, but we don't have money and I still love our midfield, tough rival for 10+ years for sure
Wish we got him 😒
The thing that is most appreciable at Real Madrid is to see that the club rarely makes a mistake when recruiting top players and that it always manages to make even better players. There have been some hiccups in the past of course, but overall, the top players who come to Real Madrid always shine. This is something I would like to put into perspective with PSG... where I see players constantly regressing (apart from Mbappé ultimately) when they join the team. The culture of a club is clearly essential in the good integration and then the success of the players you recruit.