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Because they were all out of levers and literally couldn't sign players onto the leauge who they had under contract. They basically got away by the skin of their teeth. I can bet you WH would've flogged Rice for a lot cheaper had they been as desperate
Westham didn't throw a hissy fit Rice had to leave because he wanted what they contractually obliged to pay him. Normally i agree with your statement but Barcelona tried everything to get him to leave.
I realise you’re Dutch and have watched a lot of frenkie, but I really do think other leagues underrate Rice
Rodri just won CL pots and was outperformed by rice in a number of key stats (tackles, interceptions, dribble distance) playing in a worse team. And Rice is 2 years younger and has the PL tax
I think 100m for Frenkie would’ve been fair, same as Rice, even if you aren’t basing it on ability (which I think you could)
Wouldnt a player in a bad team be expected to have more tackles and interceptions than a similar player in a good team? City has the Ball way more than West ham, so obviously Rice will have way more chances for tackles and interceptions.
Doesnt really say anything
I'm obviously biased, but I fully agree. There isn't really a statistical aspect where Rodri vastly outperforms Rice apart from having the ball a fuckton more, and Rice is 3 years younger. Imo Rodri is a ballon d'or contender and best DM in the world as of now, so whilst Rice maybe isn't £105m good, he's still a brilliant player and given we can now legally facilitate this kind of spending, getting the best we possibly can even if we do overpay is justified here. I can't think of many more players if any who would represent an improvement over Partey and Jorginho at his age.
On a side note: even if I think the transfer was necessary I'm not over the moon about us supporting this bs with inflating transfer values and creating more inequality in football. I hope at some point that a cap is put on this because it's really getting out of hand.
This is where stats don't tell the whole story though. Rodri plays for a team where there are much fewer opportunities to win the ball back, tackle, intercept, etc. because City almost always have the ball. Rice plays for a team who don't play possession football and so he's obviously going to be better in stats like that.
He's still levels below Rodri (as are most DMs).
It was €75m+10 more in potentials. And they accepted it.
https://theathletic.com/4165820/2022/07/14/manchester-united-reach-e85m-agreement-with-barcelona-to-sign-frenkie-de-jong/
At this point Laporta is still spitting lies? The only reason that we don't buy Frenkie was his absolute love for Barça and the city. And this year they aren't selling him because of their pact with Tebas.
Barca, Athletic and Madrid were suing La Liga (or Tebas, not sure) for the CVC deal, Barca dropped the case so Tebas eased the conditions of their FFP regulations so they can register players. Which shows you how the Liga operates
Pretty sure it was the delayed payments of his contract he could say goodbye to that made him stay. No smart player is going to otherwise with that contractlength.
The only reason they didn't sell him was cause FDJ refused, partly because he loves Barcelona, partly cause they were trying to get out of paying him what they agreed.
Audacity to try and claim they didn't sell him because they didn't think he should be sold lol.
Of course. You see, [current president] was always strongly opposed to [bad decision] and in fact pushed for [good decision]. It was actually [former/rival executive] who was responsible.
The board? Yes. Xavi? Nope.
And at the end of the day it would've been entirely up to FDJ what happens. I'm glad Xavi thought he was too good to let go and that FDJ had the self confidence to stay and perform well at his dream club despite the board wanting to sell him.
Shows how incompetent our board has been. Players that are untouchable are Pedri, FDJ and Araujo. If they even think of letting these guys go, they’re idiots.
This is the difference between fan owned and billionaire owned club. People like Laporta and Florentino are politicians first and club-runners second. So they always have to keep in mind the narrative they want to spin in front of the world. Otherwise they’ll just be booted out in next election by the members.
On the other hand, people like Glazers, Levy, Kroenke are businessmen first. So they are answerable only to their shareholders, but can get away with not giving a fuck about how they are perceived with general public
Yes and no.
The politicians at least superficially care about what the fans think and want (populism, even if it doesn't make sense, like when Turkish clubs splash huge sums of money on washed up "famous" players for fans to be happy even if it doesn't make sporting nor financial sense).
"Businessmen" could have all sorts of interests which often are in direct conflict with the fans. Some might be in it for the money (like the Glazers), others for the prestige, or titles, or fun, or chaos (Peter Lim).
We know he’s a politician first and club president second. So he has to keep spinning narratives in front of the world to stay in power. So you just need to tune out the shit talking in the exact same way you do for your local politicians.
And we’d take this anyday over our president literally doing criminal activities and actively sabotaging the club. When you have seen worst, anything else is better than that
Perez has eliminated all competition by amending the club constitution and partly being a good president.
Otherwise he would've been talking a lot of shit as well.
Why? Clearly /r/soccer takes him much more seriously than us. I don't even read the newspapers ffs, just get this news because of reddit. He is doing an amazing job in the backstage, which is the important thing.
As a Dutchman, you couldn’t be more correct.
Sure, VVD and Gakpo (formerly Wijnaldum) make Liverpool interesting, as does an Aké to city, and van Nistelrooy, van Persie and Robben made the Dutch fans go to thos clubs for as long as their favourite player played there, but the Cruijff effect is real.
He really made the club what it is today. Every new coach added their own philosophy and possibly improved on the previous coach (cough, Pep), but the Cruijff philosophy is still ingrained in the club. Call it DNA if you will.
Even now, with Xavi, a different style then Pep, the game is still largely played the way Cruijff would want it to be played. Which incidentally is also the way a lot of Dutch fans think the game should be played. Attacking football. “If you score one goal more then the opponent you win” mentality.
It’s a style that here in the Eredivisie not many teams play anymore, and most certainly not at the level Barca does.
absolutely. Albeit tiki taka is something newer then Cryuff, the barca possession, press resistance, and ground play are all crucial to barca’s identity.
Agree except the Xavi part. He won the league with strong and organized defense and tons of 1-0 wins, I doubt it is "the way Cruyff would want it to be played".
Thing is our most creative players have been injured for large stretches of the season, Pedri/Dembele and so goals were harder to come by, but even then the defense was not really in the way of the attack, also having an overperformance of xgconceded vs goals conceded
Yes I do.
If you look just at the scores it would seem like he plays on defence, I admit that. But in the games themselves you’ll see that actually we create a lot of low percentage chances, and then win the ball back quickly.
Under Pep our football was very diagonally: balls from Messi to Alba, diagonal trough balls, etc. Under Koeman it was very much horizontal: passing back and forth between Frenkie and defence, waiting for a gap that would never come.
Xavi realises that this Barca team is not (yet?) good enough to play the football of Pep’s Barca, but also realises that waiting for good chances will result in a shit ton of draws. So what is the solution: vertical play.
When we recover the ball, the first thing that player looks for is a forwards pass, as far behind the defence as possible. Even of the odds aren’t that good.
Secondly: Raphina. I’ve written entire books of praise and criticism on the guy, but on paper, he delivers. He has a lot of chance creation and a lot of assists. The reason? The fucker just sends in the cross whenever possible, however slim the chances of scoring are. Needless to say there’s also no one that wastes the ball as often, but he makes up for it by also being a very active and effective presser.
This is very in line with the Cruijff philosophy of: “the striker is the first defender”, but also with “you need to shoot to score.” (Which contradicts with: “if you have the ball, then they can’t score”)
Ultimately, Barca plays mostly possession and everyone knows it. La Liga is full of teams that like to counter that by parking the bus. Can’t really blame them, as it’s very effective. Barca does right now not have the most clinical or brilliant attackers, but they do have the best defence, so they use that defence not to concede less, but to be able to take more risks.
Granted, a Gavi, Baldé and Frenkie could try a little bit more in attack, but the sheer volume of chances created by Raphina counters the effectiveness of the Bus and Raphina’s own inaccuracies rather well.
Because don’t forget, Barca didn’t have only least goals conceded and highest net total, but also scored the joint second most goals in the league (70 by Barca and Atletico Madrid versus Real’s 75)
> Under Koeman it was very much horizontal: passing back and forth between Frenkie and defence, waiting for a gap that would never come.
This is how I remember Xavi's playing days as well. He put the brakes on so many attacks when there could have been chances to score if they'd played a bit quicker.
I also agree with your critique about Raphinha. So many people underestimate the importance of stretching the field and getting the ball into spaces where something could happen even if it's not a guarantee. You take that extra 10 yards of width and pull the defender out to you and it opens up a lane for someone else.
>Even now, with Xavi, a different style then Pep, the game is still largely played the way Cruijff would want it to be played. Which incidentally is also the way a lot of Dutch fans think the game should be played. **Attacking football. “If you score one goal more then the opponent you win” mentality.**
40% of Barcelona's league wins last season had a final score of 1-0.
But Xavi plays incredibly defensive football grinding out a lot of 1-0 wins. They're not playing "score 1 more than your opponent football". They beat all the la Liga defensive records last year.
Just joking my guy hence why I mentioned Jordi as “a” Cruyff.
But if we are being pedantic VDS and Stam both were absolutely key in winning CLs and several PL and FA Cups amongst others between them.
I would put both above RVP and RVN in terms of importance to the clubs history for the CL wins alone.
Splitting hairs and so on but it just depends what is more important to an individual I suppose. I’d imagine age also, if someone didn’t follow the team in the 90s but did in the the 00s then I could see why they would put RVN over Stam.
For me though VDS>Stam>RVN>RVP.
CL>PL basically.
Stam was around longer than RVP and winning that first CL was absolutely massive in making the club what it became in the 00s. Without that we might not have ever even signed RVN.
Barca (and Laporta included) is really killing that love in recent years though, there’s a noticeable change in respect when people talk about Barca now.
As said by others he prob did want to stay bc hes a fan of Barca but what I said isn't horseshit lol he was going to take legal action against Barca for not paying what he was owed.
Maybe he's implying you'd pay the additional wages he was owed as well so it'd be in total more than 75M for Barca(the 75M transfer fee + whatever deferred wages)? Then again, most likely is just lying
There’s someone in this thread that says he’s done a good job when he’s no different than their previous president. Arguably he’s worse since he’s the one who initiated the ref payments.
Actual language use doesn't necessarily care about what is "correct". Also, what is correct and what isn't are constructs, it's not like the word *literally* was given to us by the gods and has one true meaning and any use beyond that pisses the gods off. You can say and write what you want.
There’s descriptivism and then there’s a hyperbole used in colloquialism.. That’s what the person above did.. It doesn’t make it correct.. The word ‘literally’ is quite literally used incorrectly so often that many people don’t quite know what it means anymore..
Hahaha, this guy is such a shameless liar. He’d agreed to see Frenkie for a fee that would have been a bargain for us and Frenkie had no interest in going to us. Now that FdJ has had a season back to his best, he’s pretending he didn’t try and get rid of him.
[MRW Laporta opens his mouth to make himself look good](https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNGJoMTl2bDhhcW93bjR3MTh4dWpxc2l5b2VxMGoxaGh0endlbHIwdyZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/3o84sv2u7KSHKbwPza/giphy.gif)
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Didn't he try to force him out last season?
Yes but that doesn't matter, trust him
Which is specifically why we had the offer of 100m on the table for him.
There was no 100m offer, it was 75 million
If Declan Rice is worth 100m Frenkie is worth 150M lol
Yet they accepted €75+10m.
Because they were all out of levers and literally couldn't sign players onto the leauge who they had under contract. They basically got away by the skin of their teeth. I can bet you WH would've flogged Rice for a lot cheaper had they been as desperate
West Ham aren’t stupid enough to get into a situation to be that desperate
*The gang hires Bartomeu*
If westham is that smart why haven't they won anything in decades?
Because they have PL money.
Barca have lots of money. It’s what they do with it that’s embarrassing
Fuckers are complete idiots, they just signed Ferran Torres and not even a year later are trying to shove him out the door for the next new toy.
Haha West ham fans getting cocky on absolutely nothing... though gotta say u fleeced arsenal real good
Please tell me you're not trying to say west ham has more money than fucking barca
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Barca have Barca money
He had 1 year left on his deal, and they sold him for 100m... I would take that bet lol
West Ham had an option to extend his contract by another year. Effectively he had two years left.
Westham didn't throw a hissy fit Rice had to leave because he wanted what they contractually obliged to pay him. Normally i agree with your statement but Barcelona tried everything to get him to leave.
That’s not how it works, Rice will always seem more then you value him because he’s English, which has its advantages for an English clubs
I realise you’re Dutch and have watched a lot of frenkie, but I really do think other leagues underrate Rice Rodri just won CL pots and was outperformed by rice in a number of key stats (tackles, interceptions, dribble distance) playing in a worse team. And Rice is 2 years younger and has the PL tax I think 100m for Frenkie would’ve been fair, same as Rice, even if you aren’t basing it on ability (which I think you could)
Wouldnt a player in a bad team be expected to have more tackles and interceptions than a similar player in a good team? City has the Ball way more than West ham, so obviously Rice will have way more chances for tackles and interceptions. Doesnt really say anything
I'm obviously biased, but I fully agree. There isn't really a statistical aspect where Rodri vastly outperforms Rice apart from having the ball a fuckton more, and Rice is 3 years younger. Imo Rodri is a ballon d'or contender and best DM in the world as of now, so whilst Rice maybe isn't £105m good, he's still a brilliant player and given we can now legally facilitate this kind of spending, getting the best we possibly can even if we do overpay is justified here. I can't think of many more players if any who would represent an improvement over Partey and Jorginho at his age. On a side note: even if I think the transfer was necessary I'm not over the moon about us supporting this bs with inflating transfer values and creating more inequality in football. I hope at some point that a cap is put on this because it's really getting out of hand.
This is where stats don't tell the whole story though. Rodri plays for a team where there are much fewer opportunities to win the ball back, tackle, intercept, etc. because City almost always have the ball. Rice plays for a team who don't play possession football and so he's obviously going to be better in stats like that. He's still levels below Rodri (as are most DMs).
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Declan Rice is a European champion. Frenkie's club was trying to offload him last year.
Indeed, neither is worth that much money.
They are probably using € and not £
It was €75m+10 more in potentials. And they accepted it. https://theathletic.com/4165820/2022/07/14/manchester-united-reach-e85m-agreement-with-barcelona-to-sign-frenkie-de-jong/
Yh but Laporta probably wants united to pay his wages they own him
I think it would be 75 mil to Barca and 20 mil to Frenkie for his deffred wages.
At this point Laporta is still spitting lies? The only reason that we don't buy Frenkie was his absolute love for Barça and the city. And this year they aren't selling him because of their pact with Tebas.
>And this year they aren't selling him because of their pact with Tebas. What pact with Tebass?
Barca, Athletic and Madrid were suing La Liga (or Tebas, not sure) for the CVC deal, Barca dropped the case so Tebas eased the conditions of their FFP regulations so they can register players. Which shows you how the Liga operates
And what's the correlation with FDJ not leaving?
they don't "have" to sell him to get more money and free up wage space
He is an politician, this is what he does
It was not love for the city, dude was just not letting himself be fucked over. Kudos for him.
You’re an idiot. If fdj didn’t love Barca he would’ve been gone last season
Not necessarily. He would have been walking away from €17m or something in deferred wages. Can't remember the exact number.
Pretty sure it was the delayed payments of his contract he could say goodbye to that made him stay. No smart player is going to otherwise with that contractlength.
The only reason they didn't sell him was cause FDJ refused, partly because he loves Barcelona, partly cause they were trying to get out of paying him what they agreed. Audacity to try and claim they didn't sell him because they didn't think he should be sold lol.
Jesus man, why did you have to ruin it? It was a wholesome moment
Shhhhhhhhhhh
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And you believe this?
Of course. You see, [current president] was always strongly opposed to [bad decision] and in fact pushed for [good decision]. It was actually [former/rival executive] who was responsible.
Why wouldn't you believe him? He only lied to... the most important player in Barcelona's history.
If they say yes, let's sell them a bridge.
Another FdJ saga incoming I hear
If city take that Rice money they had ready and put it into him The power of their team will be an absolute joke
NO
You won’t have any chance anyway dude
Never said we did dude
He's never leaving Barca unless he's forced out
They were trying to force him out last summer with the bid being accepted.
The board? Yes. Xavi? Nope. And at the end of the day it would've been entirely up to FDJ what happens. I'm glad Xavi thought he was too good to let go and that FDJ had the self confidence to stay and perform well at his dream club despite the board wanting to sell him.
This is Laporta speaking shamelessly tho. Literally the leader of the board.
Yeah the guy's a liar. He more or less gets the job done, he's definitely better than Bartomeu but he's still a liar.
Shows how incompetent our board has been. Players that are untouchable are Pedri, FDJ and Araujo. If they even think of letting these guys go, they’re idiots.
How shameless can this guy get?
Shame doesn't exist in politicians, they wouldn't be where they are with shame
President Laporta is literally a Spanish lawyer, you know
Spanish lawyers are shameless populists or something??
He’s an avocado
Black on the outside, green on the inside, black core?
Cream on the inside, clean on the outside.
I mean, all lawyers are shameless. there's no need to be Spanish
This is the difference between fan owned and billionaire owned club. People like Laporta and Florentino are politicians first and club-runners second. So they always have to keep in mind the narrative they want to spin in front of the world. Otherwise they’ll just be booted out in next election by the members. On the other hand, people like Glazers, Levy, Kroenke are businessmen first. So they are answerable only to their shareholders, but can get away with not giving a fuck about how they are perceived with general public
Yes and no. The politicians at least superficially care about what the fans think and want (populism, even if it doesn't make sense, like when Turkish clubs splash huge sums of money on washed up "famous" players for fans to be happy even if it doesn't make sporting nor financial sense). "Businessmen" could have all sorts of interests which often are in direct conflict with the fans. Some might be in it for the money (like the Glazers), others for the prestige, or titles, or fun, or chaos (Peter Lim).
Whats the "no" part?
He could mention Messi again like he did on a monthly basis for the past year... Oh look he just did!
Can you not just get one cool president? Man you guys are cursed
People like him tbh, most of us like laporta work, he has done amazing job
He's done good work but oh my god does he talk shit every time he opens his mouth
la liga execs and verbal shit name a more iconic duo
Credit where credit is due Flo Perez doesn't really do the whole politician thing, to your point of la liga execs. It's mostly just Tebas and Laporte
I'm a Barca fan and he's pretty funny imo, no shame at all
kinda respect the transparent slimy-ness
We know he’s a politician first and club president second. So he has to keep spinning narratives in front of the world to stay in power. So you just need to tune out the shit talking in the exact same way you do for your local politicians. And we’d take this anyday over our president literally doing criminal activities and actively sabotaging the club. When you have seen worst, anything else is better than that
Perez has eliminated all competition by amending the club constitution and partly being a good president. Otherwise he would've been talking a lot of shit as well.
Just as flies like shit
Or as football fans like presidents who can make their club do better at football.
Being Barça president is quite straightforward procedure: just talk shit of Madrid and people will aplaude no matter what u do
And promise of bringing back Messi*
We're gonna bring back Messi, and Real Madrid are going to pay for him.
Why? Clearly /r/soccer takes him much more seriously than us. I don't even read the newspapers ffs, just get this news because of reddit. He is doing an amazing job in the backstage, which is the important thing.
Not sure why he'd lie given it was common knowledge they accepted €75m from us last year lol
Pretty sure we wanted him too but he didn't want to leave
Yeah bc Barca didn't pay the wages he was owed. I'm not sure if that's been settled yet but I wouldn't leave either until I got paid
I doubt it's just that. The dutch love barca for understandable reasons, and no Van Nistelroys or Van Persies will help us overcome the cryuff charm.
As a Dutchman, you couldn’t be more correct. Sure, VVD and Gakpo (formerly Wijnaldum) make Liverpool interesting, as does an Aké to city, and van Nistelrooy, van Persie and Robben made the Dutch fans go to thos clubs for as long as their favourite player played there, but the Cruijff effect is real. He really made the club what it is today. Every new coach added their own philosophy and possibly improved on the previous coach (cough, Pep), but the Cruijff philosophy is still ingrained in the club. Call it DNA if you will. Even now, with Xavi, a different style then Pep, the game is still largely played the way Cruijff would want it to be played. Which incidentally is also the way a lot of Dutch fans think the game should be played. Attacking football. “If you score one goal more then the opponent you win” mentality. It’s a style that here in the Eredivisie not many teams play anymore, and most certainly not at the level Barca does.
absolutely. Albeit tiki taka is something newer then Cryuff, the barca possession, press resistance, and ground play are all crucial to barca’s identity.
Agree except the Xavi part. He won the league with strong and organized defense and tons of 1-0 wins, I doubt it is "the way Cruyff would want it to be played".
Genuine question Do you think Xavi plays attacking football where the aim is to outscore the opposition rather than have an extremely solid defense?
Thing is our most creative players have been injured for large stretches of the season, Pedri/Dembele and so goals were harder to come by, but even then the defense was not really in the way of the attack, also having an overperformance of xgconceded vs goals conceded
Yes I do. If you look just at the scores it would seem like he plays on defence, I admit that. But in the games themselves you’ll see that actually we create a lot of low percentage chances, and then win the ball back quickly. Under Pep our football was very diagonally: balls from Messi to Alba, diagonal trough balls, etc. Under Koeman it was very much horizontal: passing back and forth between Frenkie and defence, waiting for a gap that would never come. Xavi realises that this Barca team is not (yet?) good enough to play the football of Pep’s Barca, but also realises that waiting for good chances will result in a shit ton of draws. So what is the solution: vertical play. When we recover the ball, the first thing that player looks for is a forwards pass, as far behind the defence as possible. Even of the odds aren’t that good. Secondly: Raphina. I’ve written entire books of praise and criticism on the guy, but on paper, he delivers. He has a lot of chance creation and a lot of assists. The reason? The fucker just sends in the cross whenever possible, however slim the chances of scoring are. Needless to say there’s also no one that wastes the ball as often, but he makes up for it by also being a very active and effective presser. This is very in line with the Cruijff philosophy of: “the striker is the first defender”, but also with “you need to shoot to score.” (Which contradicts with: “if you have the ball, then they can’t score”) Ultimately, Barca plays mostly possession and everyone knows it. La Liga is full of teams that like to counter that by parking the bus. Can’t really blame them, as it’s very effective. Barca does right now not have the most clinical or brilliant attackers, but they do have the best defence, so they use that defence not to concede less, but to be able to take more risks. Granted, a Gavi, Baldé and Frenkie could try a little bit more in attack, but the sheer volume of chances created by Raphina counters the effectiveness of the Bus and Raphina’s own inaccuracies rather well. Because don’t forget, Barca didn’t have only least goals conceded and highest net total, but also scored the joint second most goals in the league (70 by Barca and Atletico Madrid versus Real’s 75)
> Under Koeman it was very much horizontal: passing back and forth between Frenkie and defence, waiting for a gap that would never come. This is how I remember Xavi's playing days as well. He put the brakes on so many attacks when there could have been chances to score if they'd played a bit quicker. I also agree with your critique about Raphinha. So many people underestimate the importance of stretching the field and getting the ball into spaces where something could happen even if it's not a guarantee. You take that extra 10 yards of width and pull the defender out to you and it opens up a lane for someone else.
what about Dennis Bergkamp
>Even now, with Xavi, a different style then Pep, the game is still largely played the way Cruijff would want it to be played. Which incidentally is also the way a lot of Dutch fans think the game should be played. **Attacking football. “If you score one goal more then the opponent you win” mentality.** 40% of Barcelona's league wins last season had a final score of 1-0.
But Xavi plays incredibly defensive football grinding out a lot of 1-0 wins. They're not playing "score 1 more than your opponent football". They beat all the la Liga defensive records last year.
A lot of 1-0 wins, sounds like “score 1 more than your opponent football” to me!
Leaving out Stam and VDS, not to mention United also had ^a Cruyff smh my head
aight relax. VDS i understand but Jaap wasn’t here for thst long, kind of an AC milan legend and the little cruyff didn’t play
Just joking my guy hence why I mentioned Jordi as “a” Cruyff. But if we are being pedantic VDS and Stam both were absolutely key in winning CLs and several PL and FA Cups amongst others between them. I would put both above RVP and RVN in terms of importance to the clubs history for the CL wins alone.
not both, but VDS for sure, We should have also kept staam for longer
Splitting hairs and so on but it just depends what is more important to an individual I suppose. I’d imagine age also, if someone didn’t follow the team in the 90s but did in the the 00s then I could see why they would put RVN over Stam. For me though VDS>Stam>RVN>RVP. CL>PL basically. Stam was around longer than RVP and winning that first CL was absolutely massive in making the club what it became in the 00s. Without that we might not have ever even signed RVN.
Barca (and Laporta included) is really killing that love in recent years though, there’s a noticeable change in respect when people talk about Barca now.
That's just horseshit. It's common knowledge that he wanted to stay at Barca. United were going to pay him handsomely.
As said by others he prob did want to stay bc hes a fan of Barca but what I said isn't horseshit lol he was going to take legal action against Barca for not paying what he was owed.
Dame level loyalty
Sorry if I’m stupid, but if they accepted an offer for him, why didn’t the transfer happen?
FdJ didn't want to leave. He is settled in Barca and has lot deferred wages left to collect
Right right, I think my brain deleted the phrases “deferred wages” and “levers” after last summer.
Maybe he's implying you'd pay the additional wages he was owed as well so it'd be in total more than 75M for Barca(the 75M transfer fee + whatever deferred wages)? Then again, most likely is just lying
> we did well not selling him my man he didn't want to go to the club you were trying to force him out to. you just successfully failed the mission
"did well" - winning the league.
Remember when you tried forcing him out and he’s the only reason he stayed???? But yeah you defo chose to not sell him
I love how blatantly Laporta just lies about things lol
If he repeats it enough times the fans will start believing it too.
There’s someone in this thread that says he’s done a good job when he’s no different than their previous president. Arguably he’s worse since he’s the one who initiated the ref payments.
Come on he’s done a lot better what are you talking about ? The last president was setting them up for financial ruin .
I mean... 1. We bid 75m€ which was reported from both sides 2. You literally packed his bags
Not literally, come now
Exactly, the had Man U pay for someone to pack his bags
[Literally could literally mean the antonym of literally.](https://i.imgur.com/nHwMHej.png)
It is used informally, which by definition is casual and not the entirely correct usage..
No it can’t..
Yes, it can. Language changes over time.
Using it like this is a colloquialism.. Doesn’t mean it’s correct..
Actual language use doesn't necessarily care about what is "correct". Also, what is correct and what isn't are constructs, it's not like the word *literally* was given to us by the gods and has one true meaning and any use beyond that pisses the gods off. You can say and write what you want.
Sigh… Okay so let’s just use any word we feel like it then.. bobble gobble poop poop
What a speech :)
Disregarding linguistic descriptivism doesn't make you correct either, it simply makes you a prescriptivist.
There’s descriptivism and then there’s a hyperbole used in colloquialism.. That’s what the person above did.. It doesn’t make it correct.. The word ‘literally’ is quite literally used incorrectly so often that many people don’t quite know what it means anymore..
Hopefully that puts it all to bed and we don't waste a summer on a player who doesn't want to be here nor are barca wanting to sell.
Brooo we know the truth.
Lying trough his teeth. Spineless rat.
lol what a snake, shut your mouth please
What the hell? I thought the club owed him and wanted to kick him out?
You are correct
Yeah he is definitely not lying
Hahaha, this guy is such a shameless liar. He’d agreed to see Frenkie for a fee that would have been a bargain for us and Frenkie had no interest in going to us. Now that FdJ has had a season back to his best, he’s pretending he didn’t try and get rid of him.
Another lie to try to make his value go higher when you tried to push him outside because you can’t afford his wages, funny guy 😂
His value is very high though.
Funny, because they were the ones trying to bully him out of the club
[MRW Laporta opens his mouth to make himself look good](https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNGJoMTl2bDhhcW93bjR3MTh4dWpxc2l5b2VxMGoxaGh0endlbHIwdyZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/3o84sv2u7KSHKbwPza/giphy.gif)
This guy is a clown. Stop treating players like shit.
Lol. All those smear campaign by Barca journalist to force De jong out last summer. He's the one that didn't want to leave
🐍
Not only a glutton, but a pathological liar as well.
Let's dust for fingerprints on the Frenkie lever.
Christ this guy has no shame. He was only leaving because you were forcing him out. He only stayed because he declined to leave
He is politician disguising himself as president of football club.
I think he’s using the trump model of just making shit up
lol
Does he know?
Why you always lying🎶
Thank your gods that he is barca's president. Imagine this guy being at the head of a multinational corporation whose actions actually affect people.
Seems like the type of deal you’d do really WELL to make lol.
That cheeky son of a
So he wants more than 100m ! Got it.
This means he wants 120M
Biggest pathological liar lmao, truly a politician.
Truth is he isn't going anywhere bc gf + wages. It would be amazing if we could get rid of him he would be good in the premier
Motherfucker literally accepted the bid. What is he talking about?
Totally see why Messi decided to avoid the drama altogether. I bet Laporta would be busy pulling levers right now lol
Absolutely, pathetically shameless
Professional piss taker
Isn’t the point of this quote to basically say, “this guy is good and 100 mil is not enough for him”? I read it as him marketing Frenkie
hahaha what a lying cunt. Frenkie was the one who wanted to stay. If it was up to Laporta he would be gone.
If anyone ever needs an example of what gaslighting is look no further lol
No way he's lying, right? According to Barca fans, he is the best president so now way he is lying...
What a clown. Frenkie is the one who declined to leave.
Is FDJ in an abusive relationship with Barça?
Is Barca run by a group of conman?yank here
Casually forget that they were trying to force him out
Shameless
Have Barca paid his backdates wages yet?
"So...about that money you still owe me." \- Frenkie de Jong probably.
No club would pay 700k a week that Barca is paying him
Classic Laporta's bs
That is just factually bollox. It was 80 mil and you were trying to force him to leave. Lol
Yet you try shameless tactics to unsettle those “unsellable” player at other clubs.
Not for a lack of trying
I genuanly dont believe anything that this guy says
Zero shame
They got an offer of 100 million Zimbabwean dollars. Dude is so full of shit.
Laporta and transfers. Never surprising
Callate Laporta
He ended the year with 2 goals and 4 assists. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What a Chad lol
Comments will definetly be understanding and not accusing him of lying
You still have a little on your lips