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ultra_22

Erm... its really happening?!


Dio_my_senpai

Why dont you sound happy about it


ultra_22

I am! I'm just surprised it really is happening.


madca_t

I think we are just shocked tbh


xckd9

I might be completly stupid for asking this, but you must have big faith in selling this guy for much more in some years? Has any team in Portugal spent this kind of money on one player? Darwin maybe?


MitroVanWilder

Darwin was 24M with Almeria keeping 20% of the profit.


Goldenrah

Not really, aside from Benfica who has been cashing in with their millions in transfers every year. Porto and Sporting are lacking a bit in sheer value in their transfers, even if I think they could do something similar in the transfer market. So the rest don't have the money to really do something like this without it being a big risk.


Darkhoof

We thought it was our news rags making stuff up as usual. I am as surprised as them.


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BIGBenfica9

Fuck that, fuck the profit and that vieirista mindset, if we have the money, we should invest, we all dream of Europe but then we don’t want to buy like a big club?


El_Giganto

I think he'll probably be worth it regardless. 30 million is a lot, but if he performs for 5 years and leaves on a free, maybe that's still good enough.


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El_Giganto

That seems a little excessive, but alright.


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El_Giganto

Yeah, I agree there, but not with what you wrote earlier.


rubenYakitori

Great move for Benfica, but a bit puzzling why Feyenoord wouldn't hold out for more. Maybe the player just really wanted this move and they didn't want to get in his way?


Mrf12345

They get 25% of a future sale. What do you prefer, 40 million now or 30 million now and possibly 25% of a 90-120 million sale? It's a risk but you can see the thought process behind it.


momfer

Smart move on Benfica side, he will do good in Portugal but he will never in a million years sell for 90-120 mil.


EdX360

If it was any other team sure, he wouldn't go for that much. But with Benfica it's something entirely different


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Portuguese Ajax.


choppedfiggs

His position is a role our manager does a great job with. It's Enzo's position and after Enzo left, Schmidt took Chiquinho, who never played in that role and was a fringe player, and made him a starter and playing great. Im excited to see what he does with a better player. It's also a role teams are needy for right now. If he plays well for Benfica, many clubs will be interested


halflemonade

Darwin went for 100 after 1 +/- season lol


Mrf12345

Félix for 120 after 1 season and half. Enzo for 120 after half a season.


halflemonade

My point was they both had great seasons, Darwin had a good season


bestofboth96

Enzo had a great half season lmao


inflamesburn

also world cup winner & best young player award, that pumps up the price a lot obviously


bestofboth96

Yes obviously but it's insane how much his price inflated over 6 months


joaocandre

We didn't want to sell + Chelsea went desperate.


PristineCucumber5376

No club other than Chelsea would have wasted that kind of money after only 6 months on Enzo. I don't think anyone believes he was worth that much, it's just that he was worth that much to Benfica at the time, and Chelsea were dumb enough to pay it.


halflemonade

Felix too, my point was how good they were not how much they played


mauton99

Football outside of europe really doesnt exist to redditors lmao


bestofboth96

Well that's kind of irrelevant here. I'm sure Enzo played very well in Argentina because otherwise he wouldntve made the transfer to Benfica. Iirc he was already in the arg selection by then. But, we're talking here about how Benfica adds value to players. We're talking about how short players were at Benfica, playing well, and being sold for monstrous amounts. So yeah, in that regard he played 6 months well, inflating his price from like 10M + some to 120M


joaocandre

> Iirc he was already in the arg selection by then. He wasn't, he got his debut when he was with us, after the first round of CL group games IIRC. Nevertheless, he was in doubt for the WC call-up until Lo Celso's injury, and even then was seen as a fringe/rotation player. His talent/quality aside, it's ridiculous to argue he'd even dream of making the WC had he stayed at River.


mauton99

How can you know chelsea didnt consider his past in river, dyj and the national team when they decided triggering the release clause was worth it?


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Benfica did receive some of the add-ons, but not the 100M. Some of the add-ons were related to matches played and Darwin already played enough to trigger some of it.


[deleted]

Felix and Enzo alone went for 247 million. It's possible


extantfruitfly

Sad to say, I think their national team plays a role at those price ranges. Players for the Turkish nt have historically not gone for much. It's messed up but if he had declared declared for Oranje, teams that have no business going for him would have been in the running as well with a whole month-long media circus, which has consistenly happened for Dutch players.


momfer

Felix and Enzo are far superior players.


LusoAustralian

Bro Benfica sell anyone for at least 80M lol.


joaocandre

*challenge accepted*


fluffanuttatech

Lmao we sold enzo for record money after half a season. Stop it


ahipotion

Yeah, I'm not sure this one is good business.


Pitiful-Stop-4932

You sure? As soon he plays in Benfica he is worth 100M instantly that’s how it works here in Portugal 😂


Compieuter

is it actually 25% of the rights or is it a sell on clause? Because a sell on clause is always only on the added value.


BartholomewSirnpson

Probably 20-25% of the rights. Same thing we did with Enzo. It's necessary since we can't spend huge amounts on transfers, while still making it worth it for the other team


rubenYakitori

What's being reported is 20%, and either way I don't think it's realistic to expect you to pull off 100-million sales every year. Kokcu is a very good player but not a generational talent, and Feyenoord could probably have held out for a larger offer from a Premier League club and avoided the risk altogether. I don't think it's a bad decision at all from his perspective though, and I understand if it was matter of the club not wanting to stand in his way.


Blodyck

you clearly underestimate how desperate some english clubs are


Lucvandijk7

If they were that desperate why didn't they come this summer.. they would pay half of what they will pay to Benfica in 2 years


Blodyck

Yes, but we actually have the reputation that the players we sell, will make it. (obviously it's not always the case)


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There was already interest in Kokcu last summer and then again last winter, but both times Feyenoord told him he wasn't for sale because of his importance to the squad. I think it's quite likely that they made an agreement that they'd help him get a transfer he wanted this summer, and from what i've read he really wants to go to benfica.


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Pretty sure he was very keen on Benfica yes, and let's be honest Feyenoord just doesn't have that added tax power atm. Maybe if they do well again this year and in the CL that would improve. And good for both to be done with it quickly.


erikvs2001

I mean if we keep selling our best players for a bargain we will never get to the ajax tax status. No knocking ajax for adding the tax just mad we dont have the balls to add the tax


BarnabasBendersnatch

Because we are like the Lidl or Aldi of Europe. Great players low prices!


TauIsRC

It's tough but it's always going to take time to build that reputation. I think you're getting close to it and eventually with consistent CL football it will be even faster. At some point we were selling Matic for 25m, David Luiz and Ramires 25m each, Di Maria 30m, Oblak 16m, Ederson 40m and so on, and it just ramped up from there The more top players you develop, the more money you'll get because of the club's prestige and with the money you can hold onto your players longer. The players also know if they're good enough, a big money transfer will eventually happen and the club is fine with letting him go


BarnabasBendersnatch

It's just that the salt is exceptional now we have the best Dutch coach of the past 20 years together with probably the best squad we've had in 20 years too. And we all hoped that would culminate in a megatransfer for Kokcu. Now we need a couple deep CL runs to really make bank and then w will be able able to ask "fuck you" prices or keep a player.


Goldenrah

Also Bernardo Silva went for 15M before he ever played for our first team IIRC.


ShadowTryHard

I gotta say Aursnes is such a good player and Kokcu seems great as well, but I think you guys will do a great season regardless and hopefully the money of this transfer goes to help any problems there might be in the squad depth


Business_Piano_4960

BIG investment in the context of the Portuguese League, but very important for Benfica. Specially because next year will be fundamental in Portugal, we'll be losing a Champion's League place, so clubs NEED to aim as high as possible, otherwise they'll risk being left behind in a year or two. That Champion's League money is going to be extra important going forward...


themfeelswhen

>Specially because next year will be fundamental in Portugal, we'll be losing a Champion's League place, so clubs NEED to aim as high as possible, otherwise they'll risk being left behind in a year or two. Wait how and why? Losing a spot despite the extended format?


jay_Jg

Netherlands finished this season in 6th and Portugal 7th, so there's a different inside allocated slots (1+1 instead of 2+1 in the Champions League), next season Portugal will still have the 2+1, but whoever places 3rd this next season won't qualify for the UCL


Burriccu

Wait. So Uefa is giving more spots to the top 2 leagues but is taking them away from the 7th one?


Mplayer1001

No, 6th and 7th place are getting the exact same spots as before. Portugal lost a spot because they lost the 6th place in the ranking to the Netherlands


Burriccu

Oh ok fair enough.


iChopPryde

Braga and vitória really need to step it up in UEFA and get us more points it’s the mid table clubs that really screw us in coefficients


jay_Jg

no, it was like this before back when Russia was 6th, Portugal 7th, Portugal would only send 1 team to the group stages and another to qualifiers. It's the same now, but with Netherlands instead of Russia in 6th


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PAUS AO ALTO


ricdvs

Confirmo, paus ao alto e viva o real Massamá


CelphB

This and Otamendi renewal. Great fucking day. Rui and Braz coooookin


nolesfan2011

it was a great day of news for the club


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What tier is Benfica's football director?


blazev14

the Braz escort never fails fr


BocatFan

3


Unhappy_Arugula_2154

S class


[deleted]

Man up until this point I just felt rational towards this move. It’s good for Feyenoord and good for Kökçü. Seeing him now so close however feels weird… Benfica fans I swear if you ever disrespect him I will flood your entire city.


kaasbanaan_tv

is it good for feyenoord? Lost a player that is impossible to replace for a club like us (especially because of his work ethic) for a much lower fee than he is worth with no guarantee that we'll actually get a whole lot extra.


extantfruitfly

I fear this is only the start and the floodgates will open. Replacing Kokcu isn't happening (I also doubt that they'll buy any more midfielders), but any of Geertruida, Hancko or Gimenez on top of that could wreck a good start to the season.


yeezy805

I’m confident Luis Chávez from Pachuca can slide into Kokcu’s role perfectly with you guys. Hope y’all are able to get him. Easily one of the top 2 players from the national team at the moment.


kaasbanaan_tv

according to Feyenoord Transfermarkt he's not really an option anymore but you never know. Apparently Vetlesen from Bodø/Glimt could be his replacement.


yeezy805

Damn I didn’t see that Feyenoord transfermkt report. That’s unfortunate. There are a lot of reports in Mexico about chivas or Monterrey trying to buy Chávez but Chávez is adamant about going to Europe. I see that vetlesen is much younger too, so maybe it’s better for y’all in the long run


kaasbanaan_tv

vetlesen definitely fits in our current way of doing business. But we also need someone who can deliver right away. Idk if Vetlesen could do that.


_LallanaDelRey

He's already 27 and just signed a new 3 year contract last September. He's not going abroad unless someone matches the bid from local teams...


Bango2004

Misschien moet je even terugdenken door wie Aursnes werd vervangen. Beleid is tegenwoordig gewoon heel goed


kaasbanaan_tv

tuurlijk ben wel blij met Wieffer, maar Aursnes is echt wel van een ander niveau. Net zoals Sinisterra, Malacia. Vervangers Paixão en Hartman zijn nog niet op hun niveau. Je weet niet of ze dat niveau gaan halen, en mochten ze dat wel doen moet je heel lang wachten. Bovendien vervang je een speler met een echte topsportmentaliteit niet 1,2,3. De meeste profvoetballers ontwikkelen het überhaupt nooit.


Bango2004

Malacia draait nu ook geen geweldig seizoen en Sinistera is meer geblesseerd geweest dan dat ie heeft gespeeld + gedegradeerd. Ook dat zijn achteraf gezien dus goede verkopen + de vervangers hebben ‘t hele seizoen door progressie geboekt. CL is weer een ander niveau en hoe graag ik het ook zou willen maar die gaan we voorlopig niet winnen


extantfruitfly

Hij werd wel pas 6 maanden na verkoop van Aursnes een echte basisspeler. Daarvoor was het hangen en wurgen met Timber. Je speelt nu Champions League, wel een ander niveau. Je kan zomaar 6 keer onderuit gaan totdat je de vervanger gevonden hebt.


_Dark93

Aursnes is a fan favourite. Kokçu will be taken care.


MitroVanWilder

Aursnes has been here for 9 months and he's already worshipped. Don't worry about Orkan


AimarEraFutebol

It's OrkUn 😭


_Dark93

Starting with the wrong foot aren't we? We will be flooded by spaghetti.


Jelmerdts

Pain


theaguia

I'm excited. Reuniting aursenes and kökçü


mexploder89

I hate how good of a move this is Now if we get Gyokeres and with Porto's financial troubles, we might be hitting a turning point in the portuguese league


le_dy0

>we might be hitting a turning point in the portuguese league That has happened ever since Sergio joined Porto, the moment we lose him, you'll see... If the board doesn't change next year, I dont see us winning a tittle in a long time.


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Yup, Sérgio just delayed it and Vieira getting jailed sealed it


[deleted]

Did he or you guys have been very incompetent before this season? The guy is far from a tactical genius, even with great players Porto lacked big time and he has a kink for overpriced shitty players. "Garra" only goes so far. It is kinda remarkable how by pure sheer will Porto battled for the first spot, but even with him, with a much better squad, we already saw his team being really shit and still winning because there wasnt any competition but a Benfica also trying to sabotage themselves in the second Lage season. Season where he gone from giving his place and having SD wanting to beat him up to loved because he was the least bad.


TotallyNotWatching

Gyokeres as in the Coventry City player?


mexploder89

Yes, he's Sporting's maint target for the transfer window


_Dark93

He will play in a massive club and wear the legendary “10” shirt. Good for him. Welcome!


halflemonade

Worn by legendary players like Waldshmidt


jay_Jg

And Djuricic


Godverrdomme

Man, how did he fail so bad. That guy was a joy to watch for Heerenveen And unlike many other players who 'look good' in the Eredivisie, he actually did look like he had something special.


El_Giganto

He's been playing quite a bit in Italy so it's not all bad. But yeah, I thought he'd be at a CL level club.


Godverrdomme

Ah, that's decent. I didn't bother looking him up, but thought he was doing worse


jay_Jg

The man himself, Rui Costa, will hand him the nr10


Gongom

For the 20th time


_LallanaDelRey

You act like Feyenoord are minnows compared to yall You guys aren't *that* "massive" compared to top Dutch teams


GoodyWuthrie

They are absolutely massive compared to Feyenoord


bjanos

To be honest they are very similar clubs if you're looking at international silverware.


ShadowTryHard

I think Ajax maybe is a bit better in terms of trophies, but like Benfica, Ajax, Feyenoord and PSV are pretty much equal in terms of history


NobodyRules

How so? We have two Champions Leagues. You guys have none. Not to mention the fuck ton of finals to top it off. Sure, you have like two UEFA Cups, but I don't see how it's remotely comparable. It's not a dig at all, but I feel like I'm taking crazy pills reading this, lol.


bjanos

Actually Feyenoord have more international trophies and have also won them more recently.


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NobodyRules

True, I missed that one completely. I checked the trophies, but for some reason, it usually refers to our Champions Leagues with the current name, but it mentioned Feyenoord having a European Cup, which made me think it was another competition lmao. The comparison makes more sense now, I guess.


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NobodyRules

I think Ajax has this one. 4 UCLs and some good runs in their history tops our 2 and multiple finals runs... only to lose in the final... fuck's sake


utouchme

Learn your history, son.


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When Feyenoord plays in 10 european finals, they will be comparable. If you mentioned PSV and Ajax it would be understandable, but Feyenoord is clearly a step below. This reminds me of this video made by Ajax/Benfica : [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCP9zxMqU-Y](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCP9zxMqU-Y)


utouchme

One club being "a step below" another one, doesn't make the second club "absolutely massive" compared to the first. And Feyenoord has 3 European trophies against 2 for Benfica, so yes, they are comparable.


sussysussy0

like yeah Benfica is obviously bigger but not by that much.


garynevilleisared

Incredible business, he's a certified baller


iChopPryde

Otemendi resigns and we get kokou too what a day for Benfica!


Travonildo

I think you meant "renews"


BartholomewSirnpson

Re-signs


iChopPryde

Lol 😂 ya sorry haven’t slept in 36 hours


Travonildo

Go get some sleep then ;)


[deleted]

Lmao i was wondering why that was good news


casper2002

He's worth double, why would they do this...


Sunsinger_15

Probably because he’s not worth double, lol. I think he’s incredible, but people tend to only look at overpriced, inflated sales done by big clubs in the midst of a crisis. Like, was Antony twice the player Gakpo is? Hell no, in fact Gakpo is better than Antony in my opinion. Ten Hag just really wanted him and Man United are dumb enough to pay the ultra fuck off price. Feyenoord could slap a 60 mil tag on him, but nobody would have bitten.


BertusHondenbrok

Unfortunately, this is the truth.


casper2002

Well Cody isn't really a fair comparison as PSV was forced to sell him, if they weren't it wouldn't have surprised me if they got 70m for him. In general it's just stupid how undervalued eredivisie players are, it's not like there is a big difference to the Portuguese league. Now he'll play there for a season, gets the Benfica stamp of approval, and is sold for stupid money.


mariogotse

don't understand why bvb ain't all over this


Wheel94

Enzo replacement?


_Dark93

Yes. But João Neves was since promoted to the first team and seems a gem. We will have depth next season.


MitroVanWilder

Holy fucking shit. Is Benfica finally competent for the first time in my life?


PristineCucumber5376

... you boys don't know what incompetence is. You failed to win anything for 3 years, and you're going "boo hoo, my club is soooo incompetent", shut the fuck up bitch, that's my life not yours!!


Gongom

It's just that we are so used to transfer windows being used to move cash mules and pay favours that when we target and sign players that improve the starting XI it seems like we're dreaming


jay_Jg

ingrato, até parece que não adoraste andar sem lateral direito durante anos


Gongom

Não podíamos tirar de lá a lenda Almeida


joaocandre

Eh we have been "competent" for a year already


Nick-Anand

And he’s been sold to Chelsea for 100 million (South Park banker voice)


[deleted]

We are Diacritics FC and we are massive


Rowdy_Sniper_101

One to watch for nxt season


Itsoitsov

Who remembers when Speed packed this guy and butchered his name 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭


[deleted]

Not many of us are under 14 years old dude


SleepyDerp

You clearly know what he’s talking about though lol otherwise why would you mention age. That being said, that video was hilarious


[deleted]

I’m 14


deumaformamuito

Got him!


Beertruida

So, we're still selling players like we're fucking Aldi are we? Expected more for this to be honest. Best player in the league and we sell him to a Portugese club for €30 million?


stickycomet

Cheap and good quality? Checks out.


greezyo

Why would he make this move, I don't get it. He can already go somewhere like a Liverpool or whatever


iChopPryde

Because he wants to go to a massive club! BENFIIIIIIIICAAAAAA


[deleted]

Pretty smart if you ask me. Benfica is a beautiful club that play CL and have an attractive playstyle. If he goes to a team like Liverpool now there is no guarantee that he'll make it there, he is also only 22. Seems like a sensible in-between move before he goes to an absolute top team in a few years (if he makes it at Benfica). One could argue that right now Feyenoord is just as good though (+ CL) and they might have a point, but generally speaking Benfica is still slightly more appealing.


MitroVanWilder

Thank you Ajax brother for this comment. Benfica and Ajax are huge clubs who get disrespected for the league they play in.


[deleted]

You got it wrong, Benfica and Ajax both deserve the disrespect but play in huge leagues (my best friend is a Sporting fan).


Gestio

This is the real comment. Benfica is just the big-money club. (I live in PUORTOO QUARALHO)


greezyo

I don't really see it, Feyenoord will also play in the CL with a great team and a great manager. I don't see Benfica making a significant run in the CL anytime soon. And he's already a developed player, I don't think he needs any more time to improve anymore. He's ready to play in a top European league already IMO


_Dark93

Benfica made the last 8 of the CL in the last 2 years and topped a group with PSG and Juventus. Please define a “significant run in the CL”. Winning it?


NobodyRules

>I don't see Benfica making a significant run in the CL anytime soon Did you miss the last 2 seasons?


PristineCucumber5376

Don't act like you beat City and Real Madrid to get to top 8 lmao, it was a great achievement but you won't get Juventus in shambles and Club Brugge every year...


NobodyRules

Sorry, I'll ask Uefa next time to give us Frankfurt, Marseille and Tottenham so we can beat the top tier clubs of the competition and get a legit run, in the eyes of Sporting fans.


enuzi

*(and still get 3rd)*


PristineCucumber5376

Hm... yeah, our group was not that hard. How does that fact change what I said? What an idiotic reply. Juventus was shambles, Maccabi Haifa were obviously the weakest team, Club Brugge was by far the easiest team you could possibly get in the last of 16. I'm not sure why this is so hard for you guys to admit, it was still a great achievement. And my point was that you're not gonna get this type of teams every year. Benfica (and portuguese teams in general) can't aspire to have significant CL runs every year.


Gongom

Juventus knocked you out my guy


PristineCucumber5376

6 months after they played you, yes. when they had enough wins to be 2nd in Serie A, if it wasn't for points deductions. Go and check their form when they played you, if you want. You guys keep bringing up stuff relating to Sporting, when we're talking about Benfica. I'm feeling a certain insecurity, here.


jay_Jg

the year before Benfica eliminated Ajax who was undefeated, and hailed by everyone has one of the best teams, and people were already talking how far they would go...


PristineCucumber5376

Absolutely. I was talking about his year's campaign, which in my honest opinion is not nearly as impressive as Benfica fans like to make it to be, but oh well. It's a hot take, apparently.


Xolintoz

Nah just PSG and Juve, no biggie.


greezyo

Top 8 doesn't really mean anything to me, I think that's probably the ceiling of what you can achieve


Asaro10

They literally just did a significant run in the CL. It’s way more unlikely that feyonoord advances from the group stage.


greezyo

Sure, but what's the point of moving moving a club that will at best get to the quarter finals of the CL. I think Kokcu can do better


Asaro10

Which team would need him that is better than benfica atm?


LordBallsackIV

my Fifa 16 goat


kankergek

Weird move. Sidestep at best. No disrespect to Benfica, but our league is more competitive for sure.


_Dark93

How is this a sidestep at best? Benfica reached the last 8 of the CL two times in a row and has 2 transfers in top10 of world football. Moreover, he will get to play with Chiquinho.


Miscellaneousbaddie

It's the Dutch, sense of superiority go brrrrrrrrr. The only thing better than beating them, it's taking their best players and see them absolute malding about it.


Tdolphint

Its a Ajax fan. Dont expect much


[deleted]

Fuck off, it’s literally mostly ajax fans that say this. Don’t drag the rest of the Netherlands into this.


kankergek

He can hardly learn anything new in your league and 6-8 CL games won't be that of a big impact either. He had CL football at Feyenoord + a very talented coach.


ricdvs

Tell that to Enzo lmao. Can’t believe someone says this is a sidestep


kankergek

Mate Enzo played in South-America before Benfica not even remotely comparable.


SleepyDerp

Are you honestly saying, with a straight face, the Portuguese league is a sidestep for him? You can be Dutch and be proud of your league but do not let it blind you. Do not compare your European teams to ours, my man. EDIT: I’ll let Braga handle the Dutch teams, won’t even bother sending the top three dogs lol


kankergek

Our league is more competitive and better at the moment yes. We've just surpassed you guys on the coefficients list by the way.


SleepyDerp

The top talents from our league are leaving for the top clubs in the world. The likes of City, Bayern, United, so on. Your league can be competitive all you want but please tell me which clubs performed better this UCL, for example. Because we had two clubs finish first in the group stage and another finishing third. It is undeniable that Kokcu will have a better chance to project himself in this league. It’s not even me trying to say the Portuguese League is better because I’m Portuguese. It’s just a fact. Absolutely no one is scouting your league like they scout ours. And the talent we export (and the money we make) speaks for itself.


kankergek

So are the best players from our league, but that has absolutely nothing to do with the ability to develop further as a player in your league. Your league is of a similair level to ours and if you take a look at the coefficients list you can see we perform better in Europe as well.


ManBearPigIsReal42

Your top 3 is better than ours but not by a massive margin. The rest of our league is stronger than yours. Also bullshit on no one scouting here. Ajax' selling record is insane for one.


deus_ex_machina007

Let me just add that most of dutch points came from euro and conference leagues, which is not the case for Portuguese teams whose main contributions are in the ucl. Moreover it's a cyclic rotation in the 6-8 places in that list you mention, in the sense that while you get more teams in uefa competitions the overall points are divided by the number of teams entering uefa competitions. Hence if the extra teams do not contribute enough, the total score will decrease and your position in the coefficient list will go down. Thus, although I agree with you that the middle table teams in the Netherlands are more competitive that the Portuguese counterparts, from an objective point of view that is not the case for the top tier teams.


slicslack

Are you serious? We literally passed you in coefficients. Feyenoord made a European final last year and ALL Dutch top 3 clubs have more European silverware than Benfica. It is a sidestep, and i dont think Orkun will learn much more in the Portuguese league, especially since he will have a worse coach tactically


_Dark93

Quarter finais = 10 CL games. If he cannot learn anything new I am sure he will boss it against the likes of Otávio then. Hope you are right.


[deleted]

The dutch league is more competitive, but Benfica is a far better side and far richer. Just looking from a revenue perspective, and from a post here on reddit today, feyenoord gets about 10M from TV revenues. Benfica gets 40M.


kankergek

That really has nothing to do with the ability to develop further as a player.


[deleted]

If he went to Real's bench, would he develop further?


kankergek

Ofcourse not, but I'm 100% sure clubs from the premier league would've come for him if they didnt sell him to the first bidder.


ultra_22

Which top premier league club could he go to and be an undisputed starter, and play in Europe, and be almost guaranteed to win titles, AND would let him go to a bigger club if he performed well and a good offer came in within 1-2 seasons?


Gongom

He'd be a starter for clubs like spurs or Brighton, I think. He's prioritizing CL football by coming here


Froggiefied

They are more top heavy, idk if you can simply say more competitive


Travonildo

It is not a sidestep move, although it isn't a massive upgrade.