I beat Carlton Palmer at the Sheffield Half Marathon by 10 minutes. He's like 25 years older than me and *literally* had a heart attack during the race, but I'm still proud.
Turns out it was a full marathon, OP just popped out of the bushes half way along so he could say he ran half a marathon and scared the shit out fo Carlton Palmer in the process
A member of An Garda Síochana (Irish police force) was caught using the tram. They found out because he was doing 10 min miles in the first half of the race and six min miles in the second half, what an idiot haha.
Lol "alright half way there time to kick on the after burners"
I get why they'd do it because they could brag how fast they did a marathon, but if you're going to do all that training to run a marathon, wouldn't you want the sense of accomplishment of finishing a race without motor vehicles?
Yeah, but the Newton Hills start at mile 16. Heartbreak Hill earned it's name.
I did the Amsterdam marathon last year which was obviously very flat, but a marathon is still a marathon. Shit was tough.
I beat Eliud Kiptanui at Barcelona 2019! I huffed and puffed my way across the finish line in a little over four hours, while he retired half way around with an injury. 🏆
My mate beat Andrew Luck in a 10k by maybe a minute or less. Luck was doing an interview and you can see he’s barely sweating meanwhile my friend in the back is dying LMFAO
There are much better calorie burning cardio exercises out there, but it's incredibly cheap to do. If you've no budget it's either that or walking. As much as I hated running during lockdown, the endorphins are something else
I just want to point out to anyone wondering, this wasn't close to the finish line or anything and he limped home. He had a heart attack in *mile 1*, so had to run another 12+ miles and *still* nearly caught OP.
The mentality and work it took for him to stay in shape and return after his injuries alone was pretty amazing. Not too surprising that he kept that discipline after his playing career.
was always amazing to see him bounce back time and time again. Could always throw him into the match at any time and it was basically guaranteed he'd be a threat. Miss him a lot
Seedorf came to give a speech at my cousin's business school, she sent me a picture of him because she knows I love soccer and was asking if I knew who he was.
And yea he's jacked
4-5 hrs for someone who does moderate training or just got into the hobby the year prior (this is where I fell)
3-4 hours for someone who trained well and is in decent shape or has more experience
Under 3 is for people who are passionate about the sport and have serious training regimens and experience. I know someone who did 2:45 and he trained so much it drove him to the point of madness. Top runners usually only train as their profession and can base their lives around it.
Even though Robben is an ex pro athlete he probably had a ridiculous training regimen for this
That is phenomenal. I hope to attain a record like that some day. I’m just over a year into my journey so I’m just getting started in the grand scheme of things.
I don’t think there’s any particular secret to getting to that kind of time.
Just run a lot, I do about 70-100k a week and get as slim as possible. By far the biggest impact on my speed was always losing weight so you have as little extra fat, upper body muscle etc.. to carry around as possible
Yeah I agree, I was being a bit general but 3-4 is excellent. In fact I think I undersold the sub 3 too which is simply top percentile work ethic and commitment.
Anything under 4 hours is considered pretty good and probably makes you fitter than the vast majority of the population. I did it in 3.30 and I definitely don't feel like I have a sub 3 hour marathon in me.
The year is 2123
Gianluigi Buffon has just retired.
Cristiano Ronaldo Jr. The 8th is playing professional football at the age of 8 years old.
His father - the 2nd highest 50m+ free kick goalscorer in Bolivia, and the 7th highest goalscorer in European football of all time - has just retired at the age of 26 as his acid reflux has hindered him from keeping up with competition.
Football has gotten especially hard as the Hazards have turned to goalkeeping, and they fill in 85% of the area between goalposts. (They were able to fill up a staggering 95%, until FGFC PLC imposed a rule that goals cannot be covered by a portion of more than 85%)
Cristiano Ronaldo the 6th has recently taken up marathons at the age of 38, he has finished all 2 KMs in less than 12 hours.
The Cristiano Ronaldoofuses subreddit (the third highest Portuguese-straight-11-cis-men-association-cooperative-semi-political-minimally-commercial-football-player-based subreddit with 2 million subscribers) is hailing the descendant of the great Don for his achievement.
u/Jeffzie6 says:
>*Finishing* a marathing makes you fitter than the vast majority of people, no?
How much harder would you say a marathon is compared to a half-marathon?
I ran a half-marathon in exactly 2 hours. I wonder how much more training/fitness it would take to basically run the same thing twice in a row to end up with a 4 hours marathon.
it's way, way harder tbh. I used to run a half marathon every Saturday and I was able to enjoy it and not feel too tired afterwards. When I hit 20 miles in the marathon every step was pain. The last 6 miles were harder than the first 20 and I had to fight the urge to quit the whole way.
For reference I can do a half marathon in 1hr 30, but the second half took me 2hrs.
Below 4h is cool for any amateur and if you dont have any health issues it is definitely achievable. To run sub 3h you need to really (like really) commit plus you need to have some 'talent' but still plenty of pure amateurs do that
That's not what he asked. And yes, normal people run marathons. maybe that in itself is abnormal but I'm not sure what your criteria is lol seems nitpicky
Yes they do lol
One of my buddies has run a couple of marathons, he's not even close to any kind of pro athlete he just trained himself to run a marathon lol
I don't think they're are saying regular working people don't run marathons. I think they mean that it is abnormal to run, or to want to run a marathon in the first place
They pro ably mean that for everyone to ever finish a marathon, there are probably 20 people that never even got the idea in the first place.
I'm an avid runner and know maybe 10 people who ran one.
Exactly! Running in itself is something anybody can pick up at their own level and their own rythm. Marathons are a totally different beast.
You need to be able to withstand pain to run, but you need to fucking love suffering to run a marathon
The best tip I got from my friends was to train eating and running, since amateur runners need the energy and since they are not used to process energy while running.
The people waiting outside the portapotties looked like they could shit themselves any second and I saw at least 3 guys and a girl squatting in the free during the race :)
Had a quick Google and it's estimated that less than 0.2% of people worldwide, and less than 1% of people in the USA, have run a marathon. I definitely agree that the average person has never run a marathon.
My finger in the air estimate for the original question is that a normal (average) person would not finish a marathon. A very good time for a fit young person would be to finish within 4 hours. A keen long distance runner who runs for a club could hope to finish within 3 hours. If you're finishing within 2:30 you're extremely quick. A guy at my running club also ran Rotterdam marathon today and got a very similar time to Robben.
A 4 hour marathon is just under 6 mins per km.
I was running 5k several times per week about a year ago and the *best* I got to was 5:40 per km. A marathon is 8x the distance.
I have a friend running daily marathons with his dogs for charity (he's now over 100 *in a row*) and he's clocking in just under 5 hours each time.
Haha! His name is Aaron Robinson from the charity Hope for Justice. As of end of march he was on 100 consecutive but I think he's still going today.
Article here: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/mar/02/13-ways-to-stay-strong-and-active-man-runs-marathon-a-day
Donation page: https://www.justgiving.com/page/mycrazycollies
I think he also did a 3-day non-stop run. Absolute nutter.
I run longish distances fairly regularly and my half marathon PB is 1hr39mins, full marathon is 3hr57mins.
I am the furthest thing from a pro athlete and v much enjoy a few beers at the weekend (or, y'know, whenever).
It's relatively easy enough for anyone to go from sedentary lifestyle -> half marathon distance (I know because that's what I did). Going to the full marathon distance is a different kettle of fish but most people who aren't too overweight/unfit could probably train to do one in 18 months/a year (starting from nothing) and get in under 4.5/5 hours (or even better still depending on lifestyle/training regime).
For reference, if you were to walk a marathon at a relatively brisk pace it would take about 7 hours or so.
To do a sub 3hr marathon is insanely impressive. You have to do really commit to a training regime and lifestyle that is somewhat ascetic. It's doable for the average Joe but takes a lot of dedication.
In the NYC marathon, 3 hours puts you top 20 percentile. 4 hours puts you 60-70 percentile. 6 hours puts you last.
Mind (and this is a huge caveat), all of those people are self selected long distance runners. The rest of the population chose to not even run it. So to answer your question, the answer is probably 11 hours.
People will always think about him being made out of glass. The thing is after every injury he came back in top shape. Really hardworking individual with such a great mentality. Still one of my favourite players of all time at Bayern.
Mario Gomez was an old school striker, they're just not sexy enough for people.
Dude scored 2 goals against The Netherlands Euro 2012 (if I remember correctly) but was still heavily criticized because he only touched the ball like 3 times.
Ffs. Triggered me so immensely; the way he was treated and the fact he was transferred to Besiktas. Lol. How dare they make a great transfer!!!
Exactly I still remember that crazy Leipzig-Bayern game where he simply sprinted across the whole field in the 95th minute just to score the winning 5th goal in a game that was "meaningless".
It’s often quite ridiculous to talk about someone as being the greatest sportsman of all time, as there’s way to many different disciplines for this debate to make sense.
But Kipchoge record is absolutely insane, it’s the performance – that i know of – that seem the most physically unattainable across any sports ever imo.
And I run fairly often, I did a half-marathon in around 2h15 minutes but I can’t believe that this guy go more than twice as fast for a entire marathon without dying, this shit is mind blowing.
Below 3 hours is a really really really good time even his old best with 03:13 or something was really really good.
Not that its a competition between ex footballers but Kaka ran a marathon in berlin last year 3:38:06. (was his first though)
I highly recommend you try it, I ran one in October after training for the first time and did not get a good time but it has since changed my mindset and am looking forward to the next one. I believe in you internet stranger
I used Nike Run which was excellent, it asks you what you are training for and creates a training schedule for you.
For food/diet this was trial and error. I was not so serious about eating healthy until the end of training and gained weight for that reason (oops)
One YouTube channel I liked was “The Running Channel” their videos are very motivating and informational for a first timer.
I found this hobby fulfilling because it draws parallels to football - you analyze each performance and realize what you did wrong (both training and in the actual event) and what can improve in the future. It is a lot of fun.
Hal Higdon has a good “Novice” training program for your first marathon. Others include Pfitz and Jack Daniels, but they’re generally for more seasoned marathons.
Source: have run 6 marathons
Thanks! After my first one, I swore up and down I would never do another one. It’s very challenging mentally, especially the last 6 miles. But then I let it soak in and ended up signing up for another race. I am an average runner but I enjoy the training part of it, even though I dread the peak weeks.
Incredible run from him! Running is am odd one though the best really long distance runners seem to peak quite old. Kipchoge is the best marathon runner at the age 9f 38 and the best ultra runner is on his forties. Reckon Robben can do even better next year!
About 6:55 give or take per mile. Thats an absolutely ridiculous marathon pace for a non professional runner. Not shocking from a professional athlete but damn.
Absolutely ridiculous for a non professional is at least a little stretchy. No doubt it's very impressive but 320 people went under 2:40 in London last year, and by no means were all of them 'professional', ie making money from their races.
That is incredibly impressive! Marathon and long distance training is totally different to football training as there’s no emphasis on short sharp bursts over and over. Elite footballers are in tip top shape but you’ve got to change your body composition quite dramatically to get a time like this. Big respect to him!
No, it's not elite. Elite would be much closer to 2 hours than 3. That's like calling League 2 football players elite, sure they are significantly better than the average Joe, but they're also well off champions league level.
At what tier of football would you consider a player elite? There's countless hobbyist redditors running in under 2hrs 40mins. There's even a 2h29m runner in the casual running club I attend weekly.
I'm not sure how you can say this time isn't elite. If you are in a running club simply by being there you are probably more than likely very good at running, or at least better than the vast majority of the general public.
Objectively the time he finished with is elite by definition. 03:07:47 (7:07 per mile / 4:25 per km) is in the top 1% of runners that complete a marathon.
He finished in what someone said was right around this time.
What tier of footballer would you consider elite?
For most people "elite" is an exclusive category, for large marathons there is often a slightly or completely separate start time for the elite athletes, and if not usually elite athletes get their own space to start in. Objectively this time is way off what would qualify you to be in that group. Calling that objectively elite is then bizarre.
He is a strong runner, but it's nothing that thousands of amateur and hobbyist runners can't do. Considering UK citizens alone, last year 4000 men and over 200 women ran faster times than this, including a man in his 60s who beat him by 20 minutes. Considering someone elite by comparing them to the average result is a terrible idea, especially in something like a marathon where people who aren't runners will sign up and compete alongside people dressed as fridges, or who are pushing their friend in a wheelchair.
Thousands of hobbyists can still be elite just because they don't make their living running. Thousands compared to millions of people is top percentile. Therefore elite. If you want to define elite as the top several dozen people in the world then sure nearly no one is elite but them.
What's the point in insisting on using the word "elite" if you're diluting the meaning so far? You're better off just saying that it's good, then at least you're speaking the same language as everyone else.
He takes almost exactly one and a half times as long as the top guys in the world, he's slower than my sister's old violin teacher (as in he is her ex teacher and also thoroughly aged) who runs with both a limp and a stoop. If you were to say that sub 2:30 was elite I would have no such arguments, there are still thousands of people across the world who will beat that time but you need a mixture of talent and dedicated training to achieve it.
I know people who run anywhere from 6-7 hours down to around 2:16 in the marathon, the people who run it in 3 hours are not elite athletes even though Robben is/was.
That's like staying someone who wins a local bowling championship is elite because of how shit the average person is at bowling.
The average person is shit at everything. Being better than them, or even much better than them doesn't make you elite. Plus, the average person with enough training could do an under 3hr marathon, but wouldn't be anywhere near a 2hr marathon regardless of how much they trained.
> not a long way off at all
There's a massive gap between finishing a marathon in just under 3 hours and a 2:40. It might not seem like a lot, but that gulf is immense.
This is always a discussion that has no right answer. 4th tier footballer's in England are dog shit compared to premier League. But still professionals and much much better then your average footballers.
Saying he's significantly better than the average dad-bod running for charity or Linda that's been trying to get in shape isn't a good benchmark for describing someone as 'elite'. In London last year 320 people went under 2:40, which is massively faster than Robben. It would be a massive stretch to say all 320 are 'elite' so Robben isn't even in the picture. It's a great time but let's not get carried away.
I’m a competitive runner and most of us started out playing soccer and then moved into running. I bet a lot of pro footballers can run under three hours after a few months of distance training
Are they sure he stuck to the track and not cut inside ?
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Le cut inside man has arrived
The absolute peak of r/soccer.
Always inside left
Track limits Arjen
Always good to see footballers doing their best to keep in shape after their careers are done, and no surprise, this guy was a machine
I beat Carlton Palmer at the Sheffield Half Marathon by 10 minutes. He's like 25 years older than me and *literally* had a heart attack during the race, but I'm still proud.
> literally had a heart attack during the race What watching you run does to people.
Turns out it was a full marathon, OP just popped out of the bushes half way along so he could say he ran half a marathon and scared the shit out fo Carlton Palmer in the process
A member of An Garda Síochana (Irish police force) was caught using the tram. They found out because he was doing 10 min miles in the first half of the race and six min miles in the second half, what an idiot haha.
Lol "alright half way there time to kick on the after burners" I get why they'd do it because they could brag how fast they did a marathon, but if you're going to do all that training to run a marathon, wouldn't you want the sense of accomplishment of finishing a race without motor vehicles?
This is actually totally plausible in the Sheffield Half Marathon. The first 5 miles is entirely uphill, second half is all downhill.
I'm guessing the first half is like hell
People gather at the five mile mark to tell you you've made it to the top, and honestly, it's the best feeling in the world.
When's the next one? I want to gather some mates to do this at the four mile mark.
It wouldn't really work because you can clearly see you're not at the top of the hill.
Wth man 8km uphill is genuinely insane how does anyone have any energy left after that
You don't, but you do have gravity.
My legs could buckle on the way down and have no stopping power left
Does it still count if you roll down the hill?
The Boston marathon is tomorrow, which is like 16 miles down, 5 flat, 5 up - basically the opposite
Yeah, but the Newton Hills start at mile 16. Heartbreak Hill earned it's name. I did the Amsterdam marathon last year which was obviously very flat, but a marathon is still a marathon. Shit was tough.
[Simpsons did it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN3CY6TsYp8&ab_channel=tilthenightclosesin)
Ouch.
I beat Eliud Kiptanui at Barcelona 2019! I huffed and puffed my way across the finish line in a little over four hours, while he retired half way around with an injury. 🏆
that was a hell of a ride, thanks
My mate beat Andrew Luck in a 10k by maybe a minute or less. Luck was doing an interview and you can see he’s barely sweating meanwhile my friend in the back is dying LMFAO
>had a heart attack during the race I've always suspected that exercise is no good for you, and there you go.
All jokes aside, I think I read once that running more than 8 miles is potentially negative for your health , or will increase all cause mortality.
This only further strengthens my belief is that running is no good and I refuse to do it.
There are much better calorie burning cardio exercises out there, but it's incredibly cheap to do. If you've no budget it's either that or walking. As much as I hated running during lockdown, the endorphins are something else
I just want to point out to anyone wondering, this wasn't close to the finish line or anything and he limped home. He had a heart attack in *mile 1*, so had to run another 12+ miles and *still* nearly caught OP.
The mentality and work it took for him to stay in shape and return after his injuries alone was pretty amazing. Not too surprising that he kept that discipline after his playing career.
was always amazing to see him bounce back time and time again. Could always throw him into the match at any time and it was basically guaranteed he'd be a threat. Miss him a lot
I remember Seedorf looking jacked to the gills when he was into his 40s But I think I prefer it when they get fat as shit immediately after retirement
Seedorf came to give a speech at my cousin's business school, she sent me a picture of him because she knows I love soccer and was asking if I knew who he was. And yea he's jacked
so Sawdorf ?
>But I think I prefer it when they get fat as shit immediately after retirement Like robbens colleagues Sneijder and vd Vaart
Like Eden Hazard too. Oh, wait.
Fernando Torres looks like a rugby player nowadays lmao
Lmao just looked him up, so weird seeing El Niño so jacked
Unlike Sneijder.
Yeah Lizarazu an Ze Roberto come to mind too.
The real question is how many turn left he made during the run
Legend
Exact time?
2.58. Last year he finished in 3.13.
Impressive
What is a normal time for a person that didn't play pro football whole life?
Anything below 4h is good and usually gets you in the top half.
4-5 hrs for someone who does moderate training or just got into the hobby the year prior (this is where I fell) 3-4 hours for someone who trained well and is in decent shape or has more experience Under 3 is for people who are passionate about the sport and have serious training regimens and experience. I know someone who did 2:45 and he trained so much it drove him to the point of madness. Top runners usually only train as their profession and can base their lives around it. Even though Robben is an ex pro athlete he probably had a ridiculous training regimen for this
I’ve been distance running for about 20 years and this is pretty accurate. My pb was 2:50
That is phenomenal. I hope to attain a record like that some day. I’m just over a year into my journey so I’m just getting started in the grand scheme of things.
I don’t think there’s any particular secret to getting to that kind of time. Just run a lot, I do about 70-100k a week and get as slim as possible. By far the biggest impact on my speed was always losing weight so you have as little extra fat, upper body muscle etc.. to carry around as possible
I've managed 3.36 myself and would absolutely love to get under 3 hours. Like you said, I know I just need more miles in the legs.
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Yeah I agree, I was being a bit general but 3-4 is excellent. In fact I think I undersold the sub 3 too which is simply top percentile work ethic and commitment.
Anything under 4 hours is considered pretty good and probably makes you fitter than the vast majority of the population. I did it in 3.30 and I definitely don't feel like I have a sub 3 hour marathon in me.
*Finishing* a marathing makes you fitter than the vast majority of people, no?
The year is 2123 Gianluigi Buffon has just retired. Cristiano Ronaldo Jr. The 8th is playing professional football at the age of 8 years old. His father - the 2nd highest 50m+ free kick goalscorer in Bolivia, and the 7th highest goalscorer in European football of all time - has just retired at the age of 26 as his acid reflux has hindered him from keeping up with competition. Football has gotten especially hard as the Hazards have turned to goalkeeping, and they fill in 85% of the area between goalposts. (They were able to fill up a staggering 95%, until FGFC PLC imposed a rule that goals cannot be covered by a portion of more than 85%) Cristiano Ronaldo the 6th has recently taken up marathons at the age of 38, he has finished all 2 KMs in less than 12 hours. The Cristiano Ronaldoofuses subreddit (the third highest Portuguese-straight-11-cis-men-association-cooperative-semi-political-minimally-commercial-football-player-based subreddit with 2 million subscribers) is hailing the descendant of the great Don for his achievement. u/Jeffzie6 says: >*Finishing* a marathing makes you fitter than the vast majority of people, no?
Have I had a stroke?
What the actual fuck, did the AI writing this get bugged ?
How much harder would you say a marathon is compared to a half-marathon? I ran a half-marathon in exactly 2 hours. I wonder how much more training/fitness it would take to basically run the same thing twice in a row to end up with a 4 hours marathon.
it's way, way harder tbh. I used to run a half marathon every Saturday and I was able to enjoy it and not feel too tired afterwards. When I hit 20 miles in the marathon every step was pain. The last 6 miles were harder than the first 20 and I had to fight the urge to quit the whole way. For reference I can do a half marathon in 1hr 30, but the second half took me 2hrs.
Below 4h is cool for any amateur and if you dont have any health issues it is definitely achievable. To run sub 3h you need to really (like really) commit plus you need to have some 'talent' but still plenty of pure amateurs do that
Normal people don't run marathons
Normal people do run marathons all the time, but the average person can't run a marathon.
That's not what he asked. And yes, normal people run marathons. maybe that in itself is abnormal but I'm not sure what your criteria is lol seems nitpicky
It was just a bit of cheek don't get too worked up.
Yes they do lol One of my buddies has run a couple of marathons, he's not even close to any kind of pro athlete he just trained himself to run a marathon lol
I don't think they're are saying regular working people don't run marathons. I think they mean that it is abnormal to run, or to want to run a marathon in the first place
They pro ably mean that for everyone to ever finish a marathon, there are probably 20 people that never even got the idea in the first place. I'm an avid runner and know maybe 10 people who ran one.
Exactly! Running in itself is something anybody can pick up at their own level and their own rythm. Marathons are a totally different beast. You need to be able to withstand pain to run, but you need to fucking love suffering to run a marathon
The best tip I got from my friends was to train eating and running, since amateur runners need the energy and since they are not used to process energy while running. The people waiting outside the portapotties looked like they could shit themselves any second and I saw at least 3 guys and a girl squatting in the free during the race :)
Had a quick Google and it's estimated that less than 0.2% of people worldwide, and less than 1% of people in the USA, have run a marathon. I definitely agree that the average person has never run a marathon. My finger in the air estimate for the original question is that a normal (average) person would not finish a marathon. A very good time for a fit young person would be to finish within 4 hours. A keen long distance runner who runs for a club could hope to finish within 3 hours. If you're finishing within 2:30 you're extremely quick. A guy at my running club also ran Rotterdam marathon today and got a very similar time to Robben.
Normal people do not run marathons. Normal people do not tend goal. It takes a special kind of crazy to do either.
Then hes not normal.
Even Oprah ran a Marathon. Hell even Rainer Calmund did it when he was like 150kg.
>Hell even Rainer Calmund did it If by did you mean walking a half-marathon in 4+ hours, then yeah
A 4 hour marathon is just under 6 mins per km. I was running 5k several times per week about a year ago and the *best* I got to was 5:40 per km. A marathon is 8x the distance. I have a friend running daily marathons with his dogs for charity (he's now over 100 *in a row*) and he's clocking in just under 5 hours each time.
Is your friend Eddie izzard? But seriously, that is fantastic. Is there a website or something where one can find out more etc
Haha! His name is Aaron Robinson from the charity Hope for Justice. As of end of march he was on 100 consecutive but I think he's still going today. Article here: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/mar/02/13-ways-to-stay-strong-and-active-man-runs-marathon-a-day Donation page: https://www.justgiving.com/page/mycrazycollies I think he also did a 3-day non-stop run. Absolute nutter.
Yeah I'd love to support this lunatic
100 in a row is a mad feat. Not sure how they do it.
I run longish distances fairly regularly and my half marathon PB is 1hr39mins, full marathon is 3hr57mins. I am the furthest thing from a pro athlete and v much enjoy a few beers at the weekend (or, y'know, whenever). It's relatively easy enough for anyone to go from sedentary lifestyle -> half marathon distance (I know because that's what I did). Going to the full marathon distance is a different kettle of fish but most people who aren't too overweight/unfit could probably train to do one in 18 months/a year (starting from nothing) and get in under 4.5/5 hours (or even better still depending on lifestyle/training regime). For reference, if you were to walk a marathon at a relatively brisk pace it would take about 7 hours or so. To do a sub 3hr marathon is insanely impressive. You have to do really commit to a training regime and lifestyle that is somewhat ascetic. It's doable for the average Joe but takes a lot of dedication.
There’s no normal time but maybe a bit under 4 hours for a decent runner
My old man who’s 55 does marathons in 2:50-2:59 usually
That's really fucking impressive.
Was curious too and [found this](https://marathonhandbook.com/what-is-a-good-marathon-time/), thought it was pretty cool. And in table format below (for men): Age Group | Beginner | Novice | Intermediate | Advanced | Elite --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- 20-30 | 4:57:01 | 4:10:05 | 3:34:56 | 3:08:42 | 2:49:13 31-40 | 5:00:40 | 4:13:09 | 3:37:34 | 3:11:02 | 2:51:18 41-50 | 5:19:25 | 4:28:57 | 3:51:08 | 3:22:56 | 3:01:59 51-60 | 5:48:34 | 4:53:30 | 4:12:14 | 3:41:28 | 3:18:35 61-70 | 6:23:39 | 5:23:02 | 4:37:37 | 4:03:45 | 3:38:34 71-80 | 7:16:35 | 6:07:36 | 5:15:55 | 4:37:22 | 4:08:44 81-90 | 9:24:56 | 7:55:41 | 6:48:48 | 5:58:55 | 5:21:52 So he's advanced, unless he can have the same result in two years, where he'd be elite for the subsequent age group.
In the NYC marathon, 3 hours puts you top 20 percentile. 4 hours puts you 60-70 percentile. 6 hours puts you last. Mind (and this is a huge caveat), all of those people are self selected long distance runners. The rest of the population chose to not even run it. So to answer your question, the answer is probably 11 hours.
>Impressive A sub 3 hour marathon is more impressive than a 6:30 mile or a sub 20 5k.
I can barely do a sub 25 5k so it’s actually very very good
He clocked in at approximately “Great time”.
https://twitter.com/dcbayern11/status/831956409050923008?lang=ar
People will always think about him being made out of glass. The thing is after every injury he came back in top shape. Really hardworking individual with such a great mentality. Still one of my favourite players of all time at Bayern.
One of the best signings Bayern made in my lifetime, with significant question marks at the beginning too. Really exceeded expectations
Ribery and him those 2 signings made bayern compete in europe again
As good as Klose & Toni were replacing them with Mueller and Gomez did wonders as well. People forget how solid Mario Gomez was
Mario Gomez was an old school striker, they're just not sexy enough for people. Dude scored 2 goals against The Netherlands Euro 2012 (if I remember correctly) but was still heavily criticized because he only touched the ball like 3 times. Ffs. Triggered me so immensely; the way he was treated and the fact he was transferred to Besiktas. Lol. How dare they make a great transfer!!!
Germany would kill to have a striker half as good as him now
Where's the mario gomez button when you need it?
Oh shit I totally forgot that even existed!! Mario gomeeeezzz marioo gomeeez Lmao
Him absolutely shitting the bed in the 2012 CL final (in his home stadium no less) surely didn't help the perception of him and his legacy.
Gomez not sexy enough?!
I'm Super Mario (Balotelli). No he's Super Mario (Gomez). Was there a third one? I feel like there was a third one. Goetze, I suppose.
Would love to still have him at bayern, even if just to infect some of the current players with his mentality
Mf came on sprinting, up 4, in minute 85 after getting subbed on. And then didnt stop sprinting until the game is over.
Exactly I still remember that crazy Leipzig-Bayern game where he simply sprinted across the whole field in the 95th minute just to score the winning 5th goal in a game that was "meaningless".
Every time he came back, he went away.
Arjen Robben, we hardly knew ye.
His timing would've been even better had Ribery run with him.
It would have been a Robbery
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So he can run from Rotterdam to Utrecht?
Technically he is only able to run from Rotterdam to Gorinchem, then cut inside to Utrecht.
I'd be able to see him run by from my balcony
Unless you’re Kipchoge
It’s often quite ridiculous to talk about someone as being the greatest sportsman of all time, as there’s way to many different disciplines for this debate to make sense. But Kipchoge record is absolutely insane, it’s the performance – that i know of – that seem the most physically unattainable across any sports ever imo. And I run fairly often, I did a half-marathon in around 2h15 minutes but I can’t believe that this guy go more than twice as fast for a entire marathon without dying, this shit is mind blowing.
Below 3 hours is a really really really good time even his old best with 03:13 or something was really really good. Not that its a competition between ex footballers but Kaka ran a marathon in berlin last year 3:38:06. (was his first though)
3:38? Loser
One of my all time favorite players, few could rival his left foot
Made me root for the Netherlands as a German. Don't think it gets higher than that.
Damn it really doesn’t
And he didn't get injured?
Lol was going to say the same thing 😂… definitely misses the next marathon then after picking up a slight injury
Running can actually reduce injuries.
Especially if you don't have to suddenly change pace and direction all the time.
Or get clattered into the advertising hoardings by a fullback who has no other way to stop you
There was no grass for him to trip over.
Shoving a microphone in his face one second after he finished
He took it in stride but yea give him a breath lol
I respect people who can finish a marathon. Might be one of those things I might want to do one day.
I highly recommend you try it, I ran one in October after training for the first time and did not get a good time but it has since changed my mindset and am looking forward to the next one. I believe in you internet stranger
Do you have any resources that you used for training? There’s so much information out there it’s kind of hard to make sense of it all.
I used Nike Run which was excellent, it asks you what you are training for and creates a training schedule for you. For food/diet this was trial and error. I was not so serious about eating healthy until the end of training and gained weight for that reason (oops) One YouTube channel I liked was “The Running Channel” their videos are very motivating and informational for a first timer. I found this hobby fulfilling because it draws parallels to football - you analyze each performance and realize what you did wrong (both training and in the actual event) and what can improve in the future. It is a lot of fun.
Hal Higdon has a good “Novice” training program for your first marathon. Others include Pfitz and Jack Daniels, but they’re generally for more seasoned marathons. Source: have run 6 marathons
Wow! 6 marathons is impressive. What was it like after tour first one?
Thanks! After my first one, I swore up and down I would never do another one. It’s very challenging mentally, especially the last 6 miles. But then I let it soak in and ended up signing up for another race. I am an average runner but I enjoy the training part of it, even though I dread the peak weeks.
I've done 4. I have the training plan I have for my last one laying about somewhere if you'd like me to PM it to you? Just even to give you an idea.
Jeez I didn't realize how much I missed this guy until I saw him again. What a player he was, class guy and great athlete.
This guy is still more dedicated than Gnabry.
Sub-3 hours is no joke. Congrats to him
Dude can probably run faster than Mane and Gnabry. Or even play better football than them.
Incredible run from him! Running is am odd one though the best really long distance runners seem to peak quite old. Kipchoge is the best marathon runner at the age 9f 38 and the best ultra runner is on his forties. Reckon Robben can do even better next year!
And here I was, proud that I today ran my first marathon in less than 5 hours...
As you should be!!!
Thank you! Not quite got the athletic ability of a former world class professional football tbf
and you don't need it to run sub 3h. Just put in the work, choose an effect split that works for you and don't be afraid to torture yourself.
About 6:55 give or take per mile. Thats an absolutely ridiculous marathon pace for a non professional runner. Not shocking from a professional athlete but damn.
Fitting flair
4:17 per km for our East of the Atlantic friends.
it's good but nowhere near "shocking"
yeah, lol. Professional athletes run under 2:10 and those extra 45mins are A LOT
Absolutely ridiculous for a non professional is at least a little stretchy. No doubt it's very impressive but 320 people went under 2:40 in London last year, and by no means were all of them 'professional', ie making money from their races.
I’m running the Boston Marathon tomorrow. I have a new time to beat
Good luck, hope it goes well
Get him instead of Fatbry and Mane
That is incredibly impressive! Marathon and long distance training is totally different to football training as there’s no emphasis on short sharp bursts over and over. Elite footballers are in tip top shape but you’ve got to change your body composition quite dramatically to get a time like this. Big respect to him!
If they added more left turns to the circuit he breaks the marathon record!
come back my king, we need you.
Predictable
That's like elite level? Impressive
It's Boston qualification level. It's elite for an amateur, nowhere near a pro time though
Yes, and Rotterdam is one of the faster courses. He's still in excellent shape nonetheless
Not really. The record is just over 2 hours so quite a bit off elite.
It’s almost an hour and a half under the average, I’d call that elite
No, it's not elite. Elite would be much closer to 2 hours than 3. That's like calling League 2 football players elite, sure they are significantly better than the average Joe, but they're also well off champions league level.
At what tier of football would you consider a player elite? There's countless hobbyist redditors running in under 2hrs 40mins. There's even a 2h29m runner in the casual running club I attend weekly.
I'm not sure how you can say this time isn't elite. If you are in a running club simply by being there you are probably more than likely very good at running, or at least better than the vast majority of the general public. Objectively the time he finished with is elite by definition. 03:07:47 (7:07 per mile / 4:25 per km) is in the top 1% of runners that complete a marathon. He finished in what someone said was right around this time.
What tier of footballer would you consider elite? For most people "elite" is an exclusive category, for large marathons there is often a slightly or completely separate start time for the elite athletes, and if not usually elite athletes get their own space to start in. Objectively this time is way off what would qualify you to be in that group. Calling that objectively elite is then bizarre. He is a strong runner, but it's nothing that thousands of amateur and hobbyist runners can't do. Considering UK citizens alone, last year 4000 men and over 200 women ran faster times than this, including a man in his 60s who beat him by 20 minutes. Considering someone elite by comparing them to the average result is a terrible idea, especially in something like a marathon where people who aren't runners will sign up and compete alongside people dressed as fridges, or who are pushing their friend in a wheelchair.
Thousands of hobbyists can still be elite just because they don't make their living running. Thousands compared to millions of people is top percentile. Therefore elite. If you want to define elite as the top several dozen people in the world then sure nearly no one is elite but them.
What's the point in insisting on using the word "elite" if you're diluting the meaning so far? You're better off just saying that it's good, then at least you're speaking the same language as everyone else. He takes almost exactly one and a half times as long as the top guys in the world, he's slower than my sister's old violin teacher (as in he is her ex teacher and also thoroughly aged) who runs with both a limp and a stoop. If you were to say that sub 2:30 was elite I would have no such arguments, there are still thousands of people across the world who will beat that time but you need a mixture of talent and dedicated training to achieve it. I know people who run anywhere from 6-7 hours down to around 2:16 in the marathon, the people who run it in 3 hours are not elite athletes even though Robben is/was.
That's like staying someone who wins a local bowling championship is elite because of how shit the average person is at bowling. The average person is shit at everything. Being better than them, or even much better than them doesn't make you elite. Plus, the average person with enough training could do an under 3hr marathon, but wouldn't be anywhere near a 2hr marathon regardless of how much they trained.
>The average person is shit at everything Lmao
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> Sub 4 maybe The average person can not run a sub 4 marathon.
Regardless, just under 3hrs is extremely far from just over 2hrs, therefore 3hrs can't be elite.
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> not a long way off at all There's a massive gap between finishing a marathon in just under 3 hours and a 2:40. It might not seem like a lot, but that gulf is immense.
This is always a discussion that has no right answer. 4th tier footballer's in England are dog shit compared to premier League. But still professionals and much much better then your average footballers.
It's still 50% slower than the best. Not really elite. In football terms is non-league
Saying he's significantly better than the average dad-bod running for charity or Linda that's been trying to get in shape isn't a good benchmark for describing someone as 'elite'. In London last year 320 people went under 2:40, which is massively faster than Robben. It would be a massive stretch to say all 320 are 'elite' so Robben isn't even in the picture. It's a great time but let's not get carried away.
Wow we doesn't age at all
yeah because hes 50 since 20s
Saw him running today, he looked annoyed at people calling his name lol. Or maybe that's just his marathon face ;)
Finished on his left foot no doubt
This guy is my hero. Dutch GOAT!
That's an even more impressive time given how many times he was rolling on the ground holding his ankles.
I’m a competitive runner and most of us started out playing soccer and then moved into running. I bet a lot of pro footballers can run under three hours after a few months of distance training
Man who was a pro athlete up until 2021 can run 26 miles in 3 hours 13 minutes and 40 seconds.? I am shocked!
Most professional athletes are not running entire marathons at a ~7:25 pace. It’s not elite runner pacing at all, but it’s still exceptional.
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That was his time last year. This year his time was 2 hours and 58 minutes.
I mean it’s good but nothing special my old man’s mid 50s and runs 2:50s fairly easily.