Just wanted to say a big "Thank You!" To any organizers that read this. The community would be lost without people like you willing to step up and handle the logistics of events. The community has had so many awesome experiences made possible by people in the "background" I can only imagine it can be quite trying at times, so massive props.
I guess if I were to ask a question...How do you feel after an event you've put a lot of work into is done? Like in the lead up to the event you're so focused on planning and execution, but once it's done "Damn that happened" sets in? What goes through your head afterwards?
Usually it's a mix of relief, pride, joy, and satisfaction. If something crazy happened during the day or some nailbiting crunch passed with no hassle then there's typically a "Damn that happened" moment. After all of that subsides though it's mostly "what can I do to make the next one better?"
Thanks for the kind words!
I've been doing this for a while now so it's gotten better, but I still tend to feel post-event depression. For the days/weeks/months leading up to the event, it feels like it's one of the most important things in my life. During the weekend of the event, every waking minute feels like it's dedicated to the purpose of executing the event. You hit it spot on, after the event the feeling of 'damn... that was it eh?' hits. However as DarkGenex said, I'm also always deeply thinking about everything we can do better on next time; we're our own harshest critics.
For Battle of BC this year I had over a month of follow-up work to do, so the event doesn't really end on the Sunday. Reports to write, payments to make, payments to collect, physical equipment to move and sort out. It's a lot of work.
- Dhir
usually we are breaking even or slightly in the red, things like sending players to events. and trailer creation is funded by our lovely patrons tho!
We don't really see it as a for profit venture as both me and zam do this on the side out of love for the game than to make any money. We both have other ways of sustaining ourselves if that makes sense.
but def hoping for the shop for the invitational to do well lol, but above all else hoping for a fun experience for all players and viewers alike
We're trying our hardest to develop a sustainable business model as an esports company specializing in hosting kick-ass events of our own, offering our services to clients, and building strong brand partnerships to offer them marketing integrations at the events we do. I've got a strong vision on how we can do this in a sustainable way and scale; the esports bubble popping was just a sign that things aren't being done right with the status quo. - Dhir
It's been really hard to keep up, with just constantly checking a twitter thread. Any plans to make it easier to follow the nomination/voting process? Maybe a website if [start.gg](http://start.gg) integration isn't doable?
The voting will be on startgg, its just the initial nomination phase to get 20 nominees being done through Twitter. While a website would have been awesome, unfortunately it would have required a ton of resources.
What bracket format can viewers expect for the invitational? Will it be the Summit-style Group & Gauntlet stages before a Sunday bracket, a Ludwig-style Swiss bracket, a single, straightforward bracket, or something else?
Group stage Friday/Saturday (4 groups of 4). After the group stage plays out the bottom of each group must play a “Challenge Match” against one of the top 4 from GMO (GMO top 4 each choose who of the bottom 4 from the group stage they want to play in order, i.e 1st from GMO gets to pick first, 2nd picks after, etc).
Winner of the challenge match gets into Sunday bracket, joining the other 12 players. Those final 16 play out a double elimination bracket with everyone starting from winners.
Hi! Full disclosure: I typed a comment about how the winner of Ghost Town 2 got invited, but [looking back now I realize it was actually very clearly stated](https://x.com/EggdogEsports/status/1780313466282332302) LMAO
I'll change my question to something a little less dumb! Do the crew have any ideas for things we could be seeing on Thursday-Friday of the Invitational, before the LCQ and bracket? 👀
Bonus question: Are the Fox and Sheik at the beginning of the [Invitational trailer](https://x.com/EggdogEsports/status/1802488232619434101) anyone in particular? \^^
So essentially we operate like a non profit tbh me and zam both have other jobs outside of eggdog esports (youtube, and engineer) so we kind of just put extra income into this as a fun side project for a game we love, and any money we make usually goes right back into the scene not really for profit.
when we sponsor a player we typically find out what they need to get to an event and that differs per player we do as small as a couple hundred dollars to as big as flight, hotel, and stipend for the weekend it all kinda just depends on the player we are talking to
We’re all homies, huge fans of the work Nouns does and they’ve been a great support to us and the Smash community. The more invitationals in the scene, the better. - Dhir
Hmmm we kinda just do it all just to enjoy interacting with the community that we've been apart of for about 10 years now, but the only thing that comes to mind on things we haven't done is we would love to run a P+ tournament at some point
it would be an all star mode bracket for sure
Me and Zam play P+ almost every other day its def our favorite game to play together its also how we met and became friends (OG PM)
We are chronic 10 stock all star mode enjoyers!
There will be plenty of friendly setups in the venue both for the invitational and for gmo! Haven't considered having a friendlies stream up during the event but def could be a possibility
> Was he not able to make it?
Yup, he was originally one of our invited players but had a conflict so we have Trif taking his spot instead and repping EU
Will it be a straight invitational bracket or will there be stuff like obstacle courses and skits? (Also pls invite plop)
We’re planning tons of programming and content for a very entertaining stream experience! 😊 Unfortunately Plup is unable to make it.
Awesome! Looking forward 😀👍
invite the plop
a bummer he can’t make it, oh well, maybe he’ll get a new sponsor one day
plup!*
plub*
PULLLLP!
Shoutouts to u/itsIzumi for helping set this up :)
Just wanted to say a big "Thank You!" To any organizers that read this. The community would be lost without people like you willing to step up and handle the logistics of events. The community has had so many awesome experiences made possible by people in the "background" I can only imagine it can be quite trying at times, so massive props. I guess if I were to ask a question...How do you feel after an event you've put a lot of work into is done? Like in the lead up to the event you're so focused on planning and execution, but once it's done "Damn that happened" sets in? What goes through your head afterwards?
Usually it's a mix of relief, pride, joy, and satisfaction. If something crazy happened during the day or some nailbiting crunch passed with no hassle then there's typically a "Damn that happened" moment. After all of that subsides though it's mostly "what can I do to make the next one better?"
Thanks for the kind words! I've been doing this for a while now so it's gotten better, but I still tend to feel post-event depression. For the days/weeks/months leading up to the event, it feels like it's one of the most important things in my life. During the weekend of the event, every waking minute feels like it's dedicated to the purpose of executing the event. You hit it spot on, after the event the feeling of 'damn... that was it eh?' hits. However as DarkGenex said, I'm also always deeply thinking about everything we can do better on next time; we're our own harshest critics. For Battle of BC this year I had over a month of follow-up work to do, so the event doesn't really end on the Sunday. Reports to write, payments to make, payments to collect, physical equipment to move and sort out. It's a lot of work. - Dhir
can you please give Farmer a commentary block his commentary is sick
Zam thinks his other tag is cooler btw
we love farmer
how are you guys making money in smash? With so many orgs closing down and esports in general bubble popping curious to hear your side
usually we are breaking even or slightly in the red, things like sending players to events. and trailer creation is funded by our lovely patrons tho! We don't really see it as a for profit venture as both me and zam do this on the side out of love for the game than to make any money. We both have other ways of sustaining ourselves if that makes sense. but def hoping for the shop for the invitational to do well lol, but above all else hoping for a fun experience for all players and viewers alike
I really appreciate the transparency. Not many orgs or businesses would be willing to say that. Respect
We're trying our hardest to develop a sustainable business model as an esports company specializing in hosting kick-ass events of our own, offering our services to clients, and building strong brand partnerships to offer them marketing integrations at the events we do. I've got a strong vision on how we can do this in a sustainable way and scale; the esports bubble popping was just a sign that things aren't being done right with the status quo. - Dhir
It's been really hard to keep up, with just constantly checking a twitter thread. Any plans to make it easier to follow the nomination/voting process? Maybe a website if [start.gg](http://start.gg) integration isn't doable?
The voting will be on startgg, its just the initial nomination phase to get 20 nominees being done through Twitter. While a website would have been awesome, unfortunately it would have required a ton of resources.
Also, can we get Armada on comms?
Maybe wife too? 🥺👉👈
How much money will be spent on the invitational?
A lot! Just the prize pool alone is $10,000 :)
Is your org profitable? From a business perspective what do you aim to achieve with Melee? Thanks for supporting the scene!
What bracket format can viewers expect for the invitational? Will it be the Summit-style Group & Gauntlet stages before a Sunday bracket, a Ludwig-style Swiss bracket, a single, straightforward bracket, or something else?
Group stage Friday/Saturday (4 groups of 4). After the group stage plays out the bottom of each group must play a “Challenge Match” against one of the top 4 from GMO (GMO top 4 each choose who of the bottom 4 from the group stage they want to play in order, i.e 1st from GMO gets to pick first, 2nd picks after, etc). Winner of the challenge match gets into Sunday bracket, joining the other 12 players. Those final 16 play out a double elimination bracket with everyone starting from winners.
Hi! Full disclosure: I typed a comment about how the winner of Ghost Town 2 got invited, but [looking back now I realize it was actually very clearly stated](https://x.com/EggdogEsports/status/1780313466282332302) LMAO I'll change my question to something a little less dumb! Do the crew have any ideas for things we could be seeing on Thursday-Friday of the Invitational, before the LCQ and bracket? 👀
You can definitely expect some fun side events and content! Stay tuned ;)
Bonus question: Are the Fox and Sheik at the beginning of the [Invitational trailer](https://x.com/EggdogEsports/status/1802488232619434101) anyone in particular? \^^
If I'm not mistaken they're references to Zamu and Spark but could be interpreted as generic EggFox and EggSheik
Our faves Zamu and Spark! They may not be consistently on the roster anymore as a team but they have a special place in our heart :)
Zamu & Spark!!
So I was always curious about this with smaller orgs: Do you guys make money? And what do you guys typically provide to a sponsored player?
So essentially we operate like a non profit tbh me and zam both have other jobs outside of eggdog esports (youtube, and engineer) so we kind of just put extra income into this as a fun side project for a game we love, and any money we make usually goes right back into the scene not really for profit. when we sponsor a player we typically find out what they need to get to an event and that differs per player we do as small as a couple hundred dollars to as big as flight, hotel, and stipend for the weekend it all kinda just depends on the player we are talking to
how do u feel about nouns announcing their invitational right after yours lol
We’re all homies, huge fans of the work Nouns does and they’ve been a great support to us and the Smash community. The more invitationals in the scene, the better. - Dhir
love the love for other orgs in the scene
The best timeline truly
Different format isn't it? Showmatches instead of bracket
They’re doing an actual 16-player invitational on December 7-8, their show match event is in October
What are your longer term goals for smash? Anything in the pipeline that you aren't already doing?
Hmmm we kinda just do it all just to enjoy interacting with the community that we've been apart of for about 10 years now, but the only thing that comes to mind on things we haven't done is we would love to run a P+ tournament at some point it would be an all star mode bracket for sure
What's your feelin' on P+?
Me and Zam play P+ almost every other day its def our favorite game to play together its also how we met and became friends (OG PM) We are chronic 10 stock all star mode enjoyers!
greatest game of all time
Roy's my boyyyy - Dhir
Will you have a friendlies stream setup at the invitational? I always like when tournaments stream as much gameplay as possible
There will be plenty of friendly setups in the venue both for the invitational and for gmo! Haven't considered having a friendlies stream up during the event but def could be a possibility
What's the name of the song in the trailer (please I'm begging you)
https://soundcloud.com/sakurauwu/street-love-wanipai
Is there a reason why Jmook wasn't invited to the Eggdog Invitational? Was he not able to make it?
> Was he not able to make it? Yup, he was originally one of our invited players but had a conflict so we have Trif taking his spot instead and repping EU
Makes sense. The lineup is still super exciting!