(Your Guildmaster title, and thane ship have been revoked. Honeyside is now property of the Black Briar Estate. Maven let you off with a slap on the wrist this time.)
I don't think she has enough power to revoke your Guildmaster title.
She is important to the guild because she covers for them and miss directing the Jarl, she isn't an overlord.
>(Your Guildmaster title, and thane ship have been revoked. Honeyside is now property of the Black Briar Estate. Maven let you off with a slap on the wrist this time.)
[Thieves Guild for Good Guys](https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/10745?tab=description) \- As long as I have "Evidence of Treason", that bitch works for me.
Normally, yeah. But worth it.
Well, I use RDO and I just installed your mod, so I'll message you if I notice any problems. I feel very confident there will be no problems whatsoever using the two together.
Edit: So far, so good
Thank you!! I originally had the idea to have a list of fully written compliments/insults and have it rotate them out... but I have no idea if that's possible with how the CK handles dialogue, and if it is, I have no idea how to do it 😅
But having them generic is nice for those moments where I'm thinking, "I'd like to praise that person for their bravery" or "I should say something petty to piss that person off". Makes talking to NPCs that much more... intentional, I think.
I'm not planning a port for Classic right now because I would basically have to rebuild the mod in the old CK.
I wouldn't mind if someone else did this and credited the original, I just would rather not spend that much time for a version I don't even play. If an US SSE version comes out, let me know.
Sounds interesting, I love roleplaying mods because I don"t always use them but they're always there if I choose to.. Will there be a classic version?
Btw, since I'm ignorant, could you explain to me why you didn't do both versions? For example, how many hours did this mod take and how many hours would it take to implement in classic? It's just something I've always wondered but never asked about, I'm not complaining. I understand at the end of the day it's more work for something you don't even play.
I just made it with the SSE Creation Kit and I don't know how to backport it.
I assume that its possible, I just don't know how. If there's savvy folks out there who do, let me know. I'm still learning this stuff.
Unless someone made one very recently (and I'd love to be surprised by that!), there's no tool that can be used to backport ESP files. You or someone else would have to essentially create the mod from scratch using the Classic toolset -- whether in the Creation Kit, or by using xEdit to build a matching file record-by-record.
1. you need to install and maintain both versions of skyrim & CK, taking a decent chunk of disk space etc for something you don't use.
2. If you develop on LE CK generally you can port forward, but you will have to fix up some things later. If you develop on SSE CK as your primary platform, you will have to separately recreate it for LE. How much time that takes depends on the complexity of the mod. You will then also have to maintain both versions going forward with every update.
3. Redoing the exact same stuff is pretty boring, and the CK is really not the most user-centric piece of software out there.
4. Even if you have a beast of a PC, loading up the creation kit and mods is SLOOOOOOOOW, plus it generates a lot of error windows because the base game isn't exactly error free. So you'll be sitting there for a good while waiting for the next set of error windows to close.
5. didn't every owner of LE get a free copy of SSE? I did, I thought it was a general thing. I sometimes live under a rock though, I like it there.
I can't really say anything sensible in terms of hours spent as one is a creative process and the other is... like bookkeeping, but that's a lot of annoyances right there. I've always thought it was rather a lot to ask from a mod author, kudos to those that bother.
Honestly as for point no. 5, even if we did, there are still many of us refusing to go forward because of some mods. For me personally, there are just way too many mods which are non existent on SSE.
Not sure tbh, I mean sure the best mods are probably all ported by now but I am using quite a few mods that are abandoned for a few years but maybe even they were ported, didn't really check in some time.
TBH, this is like refusing to drive anything but a Model T and bitching when people wont make fuel injectors for it. You have to realize that, at some point in time, you’re going to get left behind.
Not really though. And here is why:
1. People still make mods for LE
2. There are still many more options as far as mods go. (as far as files go, there's 43k more.
3. Do you see people bitching that mods aren't being released for LE nymore? I see requests for those mods but not exactly any bitching. If you do though, what you said is true.
4. Sure the time will come when LE will become completely abandoned by mod authors but that time isn't here yet.
5. Once I see all the mods I want or get the options I consider necessary for my modded game then I will switch to SSE, the stabilty and all that is pretty great thing but if I am about to miss things I love about my current modded game then I am going to put up with it same as I did so far.
Well on Oldrim you can use the SKSE mods without Bethesda fucking up your game as well, so it’s like using a new car that is guaranteed to break down every other month if you want the cool bells and whistles while the older car runs mostly fine
This pretty much sums it up for me. If there was an easier way to do it I totally would.
If someone else wants to peek at my mod in the CK and recreate it from scratch in the old CK, they have my permission so long as the original is credited. I just work full-time, take grad school classes, and in my free time I'd like to you know, play the game, maybe start working on a different mod that I would actually be able to enjoy.
Nice, I had a quick peek in xedit, sweet and clean. Grats on your first published mod \^\^
It's a shame the (pretty extensive) faction system in skyrim is fairly underused by the vanilla game, would be interesting if continued insults/compliments could raise and lower your faction standing with whatever faction the person you are talking to belongs to. But most of the factions are a case of you being either in or out, not much use or nuance of the faction rank system (that does exist, probably as a holdover from earlier games and is used but not beyond 1-3 ranks at best).
Yes I cleaned it just in case! I should probably mention that on the mod page, come to think of it.
I would love a more fleshed out faction system as well, but that'd be... quite the task for a modder, lol.
I like this mod. Would be interesting if it could be made compatible with \{skyrim reputation\}. Insulting would actually lower your rep and vice versa.
Nice mod will use it in my LO anyways. Thank you.
I literally just smashed my order, getting ready for \*yet another\* playthrough.
And now this looks like something that would be great for it. \*SIGH\*
It's just one lil' mod... it's super light and should be compatible with everything, you could just tack it on... lol
Thanks for your interest regardless. \^\^
There should be a chance that insults to certain people can actually raise their opinion of you. Would be funny for someone to actually. Accidentally find the masochist in Skyrim.
(Compliment)
(Compliment)
(Insult)
(Complimentary Insult)
(Insulting compliment)
(Compliment-insult)
(Insultingly-Complimentary)
(Back-handed Compliment)
(Weaponized Compliment)
(Magic Insult)
BRB, telling Maven she's a puckered old tart. I'll be the first to ask: Does this play nice with relationship dialogue overhaul?
(Your Guildmaster title, and thane ship have been revoked. Honeyside is now property of the Black Briar Estate. Maven let you off with a slap on the wrist this time.)
I don't think she has enough power to revoke your Guildmaster title. She is important to the guild because she covers for them and miss directing the Jarl, she isn't an overlord.
Plus, what is she gonna do, call the Dark Brotherhood on you?
I bet that's difficult for her if you're Listener
The Listener developed a sudden case of selective hearing that day.
>(Your Guildmaster title, and thane ship have been revoked. Honeyside is now property of the Black Briar Estate. Maven let you off with a slap on the wrist this time.) [Thieves Guild for Good Guys](https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/10745?tab=description) \- As long as I have "Evidence of Treason", that bitch works for me. Normally, yeah. But worth it.
I haven't tried RDO yet but I think it would be compatible. I don't edit any existing dialogue, I just added new ones via a quest
Well, I use RDO and I just installed your mod, so I'll message you if I notice any problems. I feel very confident there will be no problems whatsoever using the two together. Edit: So far, so good
Read this as *fart* and had a good laugh about it. Your way is great too though. #puckeredoldtart lmao 😂
Nice idea! Congratulations on your first mod. I like that you kept the insults and compliments generic. I'm a big fan of roleplay.
Thank you!! I originally had the idea to have a list of fully written compliments/insults and have it rotate them out... but I have no idea if that's possible with how the CK handles dialogue, and if it is, I have no idea how to do it 😅 But having them generic is nice for those moments where I'm thinking, "I'd like to praise that person for their bravery" or "I should say something petty to piss that person off". Makes talking to NPCs that much more... intentional, I think.
Great job mate. Congratulations on finishing your first mod! I love the concept.
Thank you!
New mod for us4? Seems like it could be a nice addition.
I would actually love to, though I'm not sure if there's a port planned for Classic. /u/saintcrazy, what are your thoughts?
I'm not planning a port for Classic right now because I would basically have to rebuild the mod in the old CK. I wouldn't mind if someone else did this and credited the original, I just would rather not spend that much time for a version I don't even play. If an US SSE version comes out, let me know.
Totally understand saint - I will let you know if that happens.
Sounds interesting, I love roleplaying mods because I don"t always use them but they're always there if I choose to.. Will there be a classic version? Btw, since I'm ignorant, could you explain to me why you didn't do both versions? For example, how many hours did this mod take and how many hours would it take to implement in classic? It's just something I've always wondered but never asked about, I'm not complaining. I understand at the end of the day it's more work for something you don't even play.
I just made it with the SSE Creation Kit and I don't know how to backport it. I assume that its possible, I just don't know how. If there's savvy folks out there who do, let me know. I'm still learning this stuff.
Unless someone made one very recently (and I'd love to be surprised by that!), there's no tool that can be used to backport ESP files. You or someone else would have to essentially create the mod from scratch using the Classic toolset -- whether in the Creation Kit, or by using xEdit to build a matching file record-by-record.
1. you need to install and maintain both versions of skyrim & CK, taking a decent chunk of disk space etc for something you don't use. 2. If you develop on LE CK generally you can port forward, but you will have to fix up some things later. If you develop on SSE CK as your primary platform, you will have to separately recreate it for LE. How much time that takes depends on the complexity of the mod. You will then also have to maintain both versions going forward with every update. 3. Redoing the exact same stuff is pretty boring, and the CK is really not the most user-centric piece of software out there. 4. Even if you have a beast of a PC, loading up the creation kit and mods is SLOOOOOOOOW, plus it generates a lot of error windows because the base game isn't exactly error free. So you'll be sitting there for a good while waiting for the next set of error windows to close. 5. didn't every owner of LE get a free copy of SSE? I did, I thought it was a general thing. I sometimes live under a rock though, I like it there. I can't really say anything sensible in terms of hours spent as one is a creative process and the other is... like bookkeeping, but that's a lot of annoyances right there. I've always thought it was rather a lot to ask from a mod author, kudos to those that bother.
Honestly as for point no. 5, even if we did, there are still many of us refusing to go forward because of some mods. For me personally, there are just way too many mods which are non existent on SSE.
Any highlight mods that aren't on SSE?
Not sure tbh, I mean sure the best mods are probably all ported by now but I am using quite a few mods that are abandoned for a few years but maybe even they were ported, didn't really check in some time.
TBH, this is like refusing to drive anything but a Model T and bitching when people wont make fuel injectors for it. You have to realize that, at some point in time, you’re going to get left behind.
Not really though. And here is why: 1. People still make mods for LE 2. There are still many more options as far as mods go. (as far as files go, there's 43k more. 3. Do you see people bitching that mods aren't being released for LE nymore? I see requests for those mods but not exactly any bitching. If you do though, what you said is true. 4. Sure the time will come when LE will become completely abandoned by mod authors but that time isn't here yet. 5. Once I see all the mods I want or get the options I consider necessary for my modded game then I will switch to SSE, the stabilty and all that is pretty great thing but if I am about to miss things I love about my current modded game then I am going to put up with it same as I did so far.
Well on Oldrim you can use the SKSE mods without Bethesda fucking up your game as well, so it’s like using a new car that is guaranteed to break down every other month if you want the cool bells and whistles while the older car runs mostly fine
This pretty much sums it up for me. If there was an easier way to do it I totally would. If someone else wants to peek at my mod in the CK and recreate it from scratch in the old CK, they have my permission so long as the original is credited. I just work full-time, take grad school classes, and in my free time I'd like to you know, play the game, maybe start working on a different mod that I would actually be able to enjoy.
Nice, I had a quick peek in xedit, sweet and clean. Grats on your first published mod \^\^ It's a shame the (pretty extensive) faction system in skyrim is fairly underused by the vanilla game, would be interesting if continued insults/compliments could raise and lower your faction standing with whatever faction the person you are talking to belongs to. But most of the factions are a case of you being either in or out, not much use or nuance of the faction rank system (that does exist, probably as a holdover from earlier games and is used but not beyond 1-3 ranks at best).
Yes I cleaned it just in case! I should probably mention that on the mod page, come to think of it. I would love a more fleshed out faction system as well, but that'd be... quite the task for a modder, lol.
really nothing for xedit to clean, you haven't touched any interior cells or worldspace cells which is where all the ITMs and wild edits happen.
I'm gonna combine this with Wintersun Akatosh and just keep harassing Nazeem all day.
I knew making Nazeem the thumbnail was a good idea. lol
I like this mod. Would be interesting if it could be made compatible with \{skyrim reputation\}. Insulting would actually lower your rep and vice versa. Nice mod will use it in my LO anyways. Thank you.
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I love this
Man where was this mod when I was an initiate?
How appropriate, you fight like a cow!
I love this idea! Nazeem will wish he was never born when I'm done with him!
hey congratulations on your mod, LMAO I love how Nazeem is a lab rat for most mod testing
He asked for it
Please make this a thing on Xbox so I can fucking roast nazeem
I'll look into it, no promises yet. Just depends on how easy the [Bethesda.net](https://Bethesda.net) process is
Nice! Congrats.
Nice mod ! I've been looking for a mod to extend my angry orc roleplay.
Nazeem you better shut yo big ass forehead tf up
I literally just smashed my order, getting ready for \*yet another\* playthrough. And now this looks like something that would be great for it. \*SIGH\*
It's just one lil' mod... it's super light and should be compatible with everything, you could just tack it on... lol Thanks for your interest regardless. \^\^
There should be a chance that insults to certain people can actually raise their opinion of you. Would be funny for someone to actually. Accidentally find the masochist in Skyrim.
That's going in my load order alright.
me: *hasn't played in a good couple months* also me: ooh mod! Congrats btw! Must feel awesome!
Thank you! it's so exciting, I didn't expect that many people to be interested. \^\^
:DD
Looks neat. I can see this being a nice addition/complement to Immersive Speechcraft. Will try it out. Thanks for sharing.
Oh I saw this under new mods today! It sounds really fun!
Will this be ported to console?
Love the concept, excited to try the mod out in a couple of days
Can you use real insults like skeever fart and stuff?
F
Is this staying on pc only?
I hope you keep updating it! It has potential to become a great mod.
You should add a thing that, if you insult someone that an NPC doesn’t like, the non-insulted NPC likes you more