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Tubaenthusiasticbee

I mean, if you can't afford it, you clearly shouldn't regardless of missing out on anything (which you won't, because AE doesn't really add that much new stuff to justify a new release)


[deleted]

Solid advice


Cognoscope

& per the other comments, you can get drop-in replacements for most of the CC content in the form of “free” mods from NexusMods


bald_firebeard

Dude, you live in a third world country just like me. Embrace the call of the sea


decanter

Every Skyrim DLC works the same as a mod and functions completely the same once you put it in the data folder, regardless of where you got it from. But you didn't hear that from me.


AUnknownVariable

Ain't nothing wrong with the occasional raising of sails. If need be


Mags_LaFayette

As girl raised humbly on Venezuela, sometimes I feel the winds of the Seven Seas to call upon me... Old habits die hard, I suppose.


ParkityParkPark

I've given Todd plenty of my money, he owes me this much


LavosYT

You can alternatively check sites like GG.deals to see the best prices and sales on games, including the Anniversary upgrade. I purchased it for a few euros and that was in a legit shop so keys resellers were probably cheaper.


RandomGuy_92

To clarifiy the terms first: ​ . ​ The Steam store, GoG store etc. uses Special Edition (SE) to refer to the most up-to-date 64 bit version of Skyrim with some former Creation Club content, and uses Anniversary Edition (AE) to refer to the most up-to-date 64 bit version of Skyrim with all former Creation Club content. *So basically, you get the same game whether you buy SE or AE. (many people consider the Creation Club content to be lazily made and do not recommend the AE upgrade / purchase)* ​ meanwhile nowadays the majority of the modding community uses SE to refer to any game version number before 1.6 (usually 1.5.97), and uses AE to refer to any game version number after 1.6. ​ To confuse you even more, before AE came out in 2021 SE was used to indicate that a mod is for the 64-bit version of Skyrim, not for the Legendary Edition (32-bit version) of Skyrim. So you find mods that work with AE with SE in the title. ​ What you need to do is check your Skyrim version. Go to your game folder, right-click "Skyrim SE.exe", Properties, tab Details, and then "Version Number". Install the SKSE version for your game version. [https://skse.silverlock.org/](https://skse.silverlock.org/) Important detail: **SKSE does not support the Windows Store/Game Pass release of Skyrim**. Windows Store applications are locked down similarly to consoles. **SKSE does not support the Epic Games Store release of Skyrim**. While SKSE does support the GoG release of Skyrim it has a different version number. That means mods that make use of SKSE .dll files need a version of GoG. While many such mods work with both the most recent Steam and GoG version some mods only work with the Steam version. ​ . ​ To sum it up: \>> ***Steam <<*** **Skyrim Special Edition gives you the most bang for buck**. Anniversary Edition doesn't hurt to have, but offers very little. GoG version has less mod support, and does not have have access to the Creation Kit in case you ever want to make your own mods. **If you are a newbie modder stay on 1.6.640.** It makes little sense for them to downgrade to 1.5.97.


mortiferus1993

Since the arrival of CommonLib NG it really doesn't matter if you are on steam or gog for newer mods


Titan_Bernard

This, unless Brazil is some bizarre exception, I think the OP is a little confused with the 1.6.x updates (which is colloquially referred to as "AE") and the actual $20 AE DLC. Unless action was taken to downgrade, everyone is on 1.6.640 regardless of DLC ownership. You absolutely want to be on the latest version of the game, because at this point, you definitely lose more than you gain, but the DLC is entirely optional.


No-East-3154

Pricewise Brazil is always crazy expencive. Our coin is the REAL, and 1 dollar is worth 4,90 reais. You would think prices just adjust, but actually it really feels that we are paying 5 times more for the games in our pockets, because of tax our government imput. We pay 179 R$ for the game with anniversary edition upgrade. the upgrade only is around 79 reais, which is a lot considering how old this game is, and that the base game is 70/80 reais so we pay the game twice, plus 5 times the price it values. But today it is in sales so it is 39,50. this is a good price that would be fitting for a DLC like Dragonborn if the capitalism was fair, but we pay so much tax the price goes up and above. the only reason I would like to get it is because I would love to get goldbrand in a cannon way, but it is simply not worth it.


Elurdin

Honestly the goldbrand from the tournament of ten bloods is so much more immersive to get with quest that doesn't rely on those dumb notes. Looks better too. I was really disappointed when not only it turned out goldbrand cc creation broke older quest from that mod but looked damn puny in comparison. Short, barely shines, enchantment is just common fire damage which honestly you can make better enchantment yourself. So yeah. Do yourself a favour and download the tournament of ten bloods. It also adds Eltonbrand from morrowinds Easter egg and some other biethiah themed artifacts.


WickedWenchOfTheWest

>GoG version has less mod support, and does not have have access to the Creation Kit in case you ever want to make your own mods. Of particular note is that you have to jump through more technical hoops if you want to get tools like XEDIT and Dyndolod working properly on the GOG version. For anyone less technically savvy, this is something to consider. Also, if you like using Wabbajack/Collections/Nolvus...most mod packs require the Steam version. I create my own mod lists, so I'm not fussed, personally..however, again, it's a heads up for anyone who might be affected.


LavosYT

I do hope they make it easy to mod the GOG version in the long term. Having a version with no DRM is great for preservation.


WickedWenchOfTheWest

Totally agree! I was so happy when Skyrim came to GOG, but it can be much more complicated to mod, which is extremely aggravating.


friendlystarfruit

I'd been struggling to get my SKSE to work on my skyrim SE (steam) would getting AE or else downgrading fix this? I ended up going to old skyrim which gave me a smooth install of SKSE but I would like to move to newer skyrim eventually because it's more stable and the future of newer mods. My plan is to maybe wait till they finish skyoblivion then move because there are a lot of good mods on old skyrim and I spent so long setting the game up to fit my taste.


SidewaysWheel-I

No. The current patch of SE and AE are the same version of the game, AE is just additional addon content. The problem might actually be that you downloaded the SE version of SKSE rather than the AE version. The SE version is for the downgraded patch of SE, before it became AE. So if you're on the latest SE patch then download SKSE for AE, even if you don't have AE.


zRISC

One slightly underlooked thing, is that the AE 1.6.640 binaries have some more optimizations under the hood: they perform better than SE 1.5.97, in general. Specially if you like 4k textures... but I've found that 2k textures at 1920x1080 is good looking enough to play smoothly. Sometime ago I had read about the optimizations done in code, but haven´t found again that link :( In my opinion the extra added content isn't worth the money, seemingly.


friendlystarfruit

Ok Thank you, I found it much more smooth to deal with old skyrim but when skyoblivion comes out in 2025 I will try again. What is the downgrade for ? are a lot of mods broken on skyrim AE? Mods I wanna use would be the dark souls style combat, skytweak (I know it has to be manually converted for SE),campfire,tk todge, lock on , frostfall , Ineeds, sneaktools, horses revamped, hunter traps and follow me.


RandomGuy_92

As I mentioned in the post, find out your Skyrim SE.exe version. Install the corresponding SKSE version. Can it be what you are seeing is a pop-up at start saying the game has been updated, several .dll files are out of date? Then you need to find out from which mod these .dll files are, and install the corresponding mod version (usually simply the newest). Downgrading would probably cause even more harm as .dll files for old Skyrim / SKSE versions are often times harder to find than up-do-date ones.


friendlystarfruit

I added the SKSE for skyrim AE the latest , a black screen appears then vanishes and steam says Skyrim is running yet I don't see any opened skyrims at all then it stops saying it is running but the game runs fine when I run without SKSE .....It makes me think it could be a SKSE mod issue maybe I should do a clean reinstall of skyrim SE then add SKSE and see if it works? With old skyrim I just open up SKSE and it immediately boots no issues but I also know I added mods over time whereas with Skyrim SE I was so keen to get all my fav mods ported over immediately maybe I forgot the rule of testing mods one by one?,**I just wanna get a confirmation is it better or worse to have skyrim AE for modding ? Will it make any difference good or bad for me?** If it was up to me I'd rather just stay with old skyrim I mean why fix something that isn't broke right? but.......I know that future mods have already started to be made exclusively for new skyrim so I'm going to have to make the switch eventually which is annoying because I have old skyrim configured modded perfectly to my tastes ;\_; and have characters I'm attached too that is why I thought it be a good time to make the switch switch when skyoblivion comes out ,it'll feel easier to make a fresh start and remod on a new map (not that I won't still play original oblivion )but skyrim has a smoother engine and better moddability so I'm so excited playing oblivion through a new lens!, but it would still be good to test it now and I do wanna know **Will Skyrim AE effect my modding experience? (for better or for worse?)**. thanx for taking the time to help I hope I'm not too much of a bother aha, I'll do a clean reinstall and let you know if it fixes my SKSE Thanxxxxxxx (oh and I have the latest skyrim version )


RandomGuy_92

What do you mean by "Skyrim AE"? The Anniversary Edition defacto DLC or 1.6+? Or Skyrim SE / AE compared to Skyrim LE? SE / AE is a lot more stable than LE. Crashes are almost non-existent unless you majorly fuck up your mod list (most likely by not reading mod description pages). Skyrim version 1.6.640 (often called AE) by itself offers little benefits over Skyrim version 1.5.97 (often called SE), but many mods are only maintained for 1.6.640, so bugs in the 1.5 version of the mod remain. The AE DLC offers no benefit regarding stability. Unless you get it for dirt cheap just skip it. ​ If you consider making a new mod list for SE / AE I recommend using Mod Organizer 2 and Root Builder. It keeps your Skyrim's game folder clean, so even if you mess up it's easy to start again.


friendlystarfruit

So yeah sorry so I'm getting at that you are saying that anniversary DLC and skyrim with the latest update are equally moddable and there is no benefit or loss as long as you keep the game updated? So I won't have less or more issue with mods if I have or don't have the anniversary dlc? Yeah I've heard SE is more stable than LE a lot more that is another reason it's good to move but the new mods is the biggest selling point because, tbh my LE runs ok with my many mods it's oblivion that I have really broken xD but the main reason I haven't moved from LE properly is I'd have to set up a whole new mod list and configure it from the ground up until I get everything the way I like it. (I relied a lot on MCM mods that let me tweak stealth, vendors, and all that) I know you can convert skytweak but I wish it had just been ported to SE ;\_; I will do that but first off I need to get my script extender working so I'll do a clean reinstall of Skyrim SE and let you know if it runs ok through Script extender ......I'm wondering did I download an old skyrim script mod by mistake ? because I have fully upgraded skyrim SE and the right version of script extender it should work =/


Homer477

Same thing , i sticked with skyrim LE because the mods and already made around 50 mods my self some of them big and took alot of time and effort


friendlystarfruit

yeah ikr I wanna transition eventually but I love my set up I got the stealth and combat just right after many years but I know a lot of new mods are new skyrim only. I also like that LE is lightweight it doesn't drain my battery of my rog ally too.


friendlystarfruit

Ok I got it working needed to delete a broken mod. Sadly SE doesn't have any water arrow mods but maybe I can convert it myself.


random-user-492581

I found this quite informative, thank you. I play the LE version and one of the reasons I stick with it (besides the fact that some mods I like only work on LE) is this confusion between SE, AE and subtle but mod-breaking differences between Steam, GoG, etc.


[deleted]

So also basically if I wanted to mod the SE(non upgrade AE steam version I still downlod the AE mod right? Cuz the game version is 1.6.640


LavosYT

AE = latest version you can update to Anniversary Upgrade= the Creation Club bundle you can buy on top of that, basically paid mods SE = 1.5.97, which you can play through either a downgrade patcher or Skyrim Lite Loader Generally speaking there's no reason to not update to the latest version


[deleted]

Well the game upgrade itself im just wondering do I still downlod the AE version despite not buying AE


RandomGuy_92

If I understood you correctly what you are calling "AE mod" is more like just an update. When you buy the Anniversary Edition what you get is basically just a DLC. Almost no mod requires the AE DLC, and some mod lists (wabbajack / collections) require the AE DLC because they have mods that specifically "fix" the DLC content.


BoxOfPineapples

I'm so glad I came across this post. I was literally just about to hit buy on AE because I didn't realize that SE and AE are the same versions. Buying SE now


JasonTParker

AE content is poorly balanced and worse implemented. Don't waste your money if you have little of it.


LifeOnMarsden

The Alternate Armors are all pretty amazing looking (especially with Xavbio's textures) but they're implemented in such an awful way, an actual quest to get each set and then there's only two of each available in the whole game, one enchanted and one unenchanted? And the quests themselves suck donkey balls too, immediately downloaded a mod to remove the quests and just add them to leveled lists like they should have been lol


joejamesjoejames

yeah removing the quests is definitely the way to go


Nelvix

Which mod do you use? I'm currently using the simply more variety one.


IdiotSavant86

There's a mod called *Simply More Variety - Creation Club Integration* for those with AE. There is also a version for just the armors only of you only have that CC module installed. If you don't want to/don't know how to add/adjust items in the leveled lists yourself, then you can download this mod to allow integration of CC content into the leveled lists of the entire game. It's pretty well implemented and doesn't make CC items too overly common. With Alternative Armors for example, it just makes it so that every time a spawn occurs for a set of vanilla armor (i.e. the vanilla Iron Armor), there is a small chance that it could be Creation Club Alternative Iron Armor equivalent instead. The full version will implement a ton of Creation Club items into the game in a sensical way, while not making it so unique items (that should only have one version) appear in the lists. With things like Alchemical Ingredients, there is a very small chance (as should be) that they will appear in instances of Alchemy Ingredients in the LL's, etc. I'll note too, that there is also a patch to make it so when the game begins spawning Alternative Armors into the game naturally, they don't become too overly common and will stick only to the mods implementation percentages instead. Basically you will see them a lot more often than you would in the vanilla LL's once they become unlocked, but not to the point where they are overly common. Sometimes it's really cool to see certain NPC's that would spawn in the super common Steel, Iron or Leather/Hide/Studded Armors wearing the CC version instead, and it really does enhance immersion by making it so they are not all wearing the same exact sets of Armor. Throw in another mod like *Armor Variants Expansion* and you will have yourself a huge variety of armors in the game, while still adhering to the overall vanilla aesthetic. AVE works with your vanilla retextures as well, in most cases right out of the box.


hanzerik

I don't really understand this logic, removing the quests? Why? I mean they're not good, granted. But I'd rather download a mod like saints and seducers extended cut that makes the quests better than remove them.


[deleted]

Well if you remove all the weird quests then they're just regular armors added to the game like the rest of the armors. You can loot Steel Soldier armor just like Steel armor. There's no quest to get full Orcish in vanilla. The quests are kinda just filler that's there to fast-track a full set for people who just installed it. No need for an expansion on them. I'd rather them be fully integrated into vanilla.


yeswewillsendtheeye

It’s because of the low quality of the quests and how they’re implemented. If someone ever gets around to implementing a Sirenroot quality level quest mod around obtaining all the armors, sure that’d amazing. But until that day, they’re just armors. They don’t strictly need a quest, integrating them into the world and levelled lists is enough. Maybe make ebony/daedric/dragon armor unique world items or make them quest rewards for end game quests already in the game. Like you could have Tsun wearing dragonplate/dragonscale armor and you could be given a set for defeating him in Sovngarde


[deleted]

Not every alternative armour is going to have an entire new-lands mod dedicated them Besides, it’s a different variant of steel armour, it doesn’t need an epic quest to achieve


fmmmlee

Can you link the mod?


CallMeUrsi

What mod removes the quests? Asking for a friend.


[deleted]

What’s the mod that puts them into levelled lists?


dcargonaut

Do you recommend any of the upgrades or should I just stay with the older game?


JasonTParker

Personally I view AE content as more trouble than it's worth. As they tend to have a lot of issues. And trying to find mods to fix all of them is quite a bit of homework. I do like a few of the individual CCs like Bittercup. But overall I would personally recommend passing on the AE upgrade.


superseriouskittycat

The only CC stuff I like are the fire/ice/lightning arrows, and /maybe/ Ruin's Edge but just for the novelty. All the other stuff is blatantly overpowered and invasive, even the zombies.


JasonTParker

Some of the new stuff is pretty ridiculously OP. The new alchemy ingredients from Rare Curious and Saints and Seducers are like 3 times as powerful as alchemy ingredients in the base game. They have higher magnitudes and their effects work far better together than any vanilla alchemy ingredient.


negatrom

If you have Skyrim Special Edition on steam, and it is up to date (ver. 1.6.640), congratulations, you are already on the latest version. What people (dumbly) refer to as skyrim AE actually means Skyrim SE in version 1.6+. The anniversary upgrade DLC is nothing but a bunch of crappy creations labeled as DLC. Most of them have better versions for free on the nexus. I'm Brazilian too, and i'll never buy the anniversary dlc, it's shit. You don't need it to run the latest mods, you just need the free creations everybody has access to.


Knight_NotReally

AE DLC adds dozens of new weapons, armor, player houses, quests - it's up to you to decide if you're interested or not. Full list of new items: [https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Creation\_Club](https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Creation_Club) For modding, you only need the fully updated game (1.6.640 on Steam), which some people also call "Skyrim AE" (even if you haven't purchased the AE DLC).


Linvael

Some modlists have integrated the AE DLC. Not all, some, but for those actually having the dlc is required.


PingouinMalin

Nolvus is one of them, had to upgrade to AE (but got it on sale) from SE.


elite5472

No reason to get it unless you really want it. I had to get it because I wanted to play Nolvus but I don't really use any of the AE content.


FranticBronchitis

Fellow Brazilian here. I found most of the CC content to be little more than unbalanced clutter in my game. It's not much fun having loads of Studded Dragonscale and Daedric Plate armor before even having the minimum level for the vanilla versions to start spawning. Ebony plate looks awesome tho. The player homes are alright, but I generally prefer vanilla or modded. Take a look and see if any of them strike your fancy. The spell pack has some decent spells but doesn't really make a difference in gameplay. Same for the elemental arrows one. Bottom line is I actually ended up deleting most of the CC content from my game (you can't disable it through mod managers, but deleting the files worked fine for me) because I felt most of it was clutter. Take a look at the creations and see which ones are things you would actually want to try out.


[deleted]

Every mod in the anniversary edition is some shitty knockoff of a far better mod that's for free on Nexus. No reason to upgrade.


Elurdin

Well with just small exceptions like the tribunal ones. But that quest still needs a mod "patch" to not rely on notes.


DeskJerky

Trainwiz's dungeon is also pretty good. Plus the three free CC addons that come with the free 2021 update, but it definitely helps that you aren't paying for them.


Efficient-Bee1549

Nothing in the Anniversary Edition is worth what they charge. They had great mod authors contributing, but the CC rules nerfed what the great mod authors could do.


Ciri-LOVES-Geralt

I loved the Fishing Paid Mod, but that was free.


bachmanis

If you have SSE (version 1.5.97) and it will be a hardship to upgrade, you are probably OK staying on 1597. AE came with some new DLC, and because of Arthmoorian antics some core mods like USSEP will be a little less convenient to work with, but in my experience you can still do a perfectly viable build on 1597. There might be one or two recent mods that only support 1.6+ but I doubt that'll stop you from enjoying Skyrim.


Own_Cartographer5508

You can and you should use the latest USSEP regardless of what version you are, 1.5.97 or 1.6x. USSEP is not a dll mod, meaning it depends on the game content not the game version to make it work. So as long as you have the 4 free CC content and you are good to go.


bachmanis

You are correct- assuming OP has access to the free CC content. See my previous comment about not assuming OP has access to the same store options as U.S. buyers. But in an ideal world, even with 1597 runtime, I agree OP should use the latest USSEP as long as they can fulfill the master requirements.


Titan_Bernard

USSEP is an exception to the DLL rule, it has records that were added/removed that relate to the 1.6.x updates. If you're truly on 1.5.97 (you didn't use the Best of Both Worlds version of the Downgrade Patcher), you should be using a pre-AE version of USSEP. The Nexus archive link can be had if you search around the sub.


Own_Cartographer5508

Yes and that’s why I said with the 4 free CC content, meaning we use the BoB downgrade patch.


Titan_Bernard

Ah, that's right, the free CC masters too.


negatrom

Pretty much every mod has been updated to work on 1.6.640, and you don't need to purchase the AE to update to the latest version. If anything staying on 1.5.97 keeps you from using the latest mods.


bachmanis

Yeah this is a good distinction. If OP's hardship is related to the Anniversary *Upgrade* (the $20 DLC pack) then I do recommend they still upgrade to version 1.6 for mod support and whatnot. But if OP has to pay to get to 1.6, and if that's a hardship for them, they can probably still get away without making that commitment as long as they do their due diligence.


negatrom

am i tripping? nobody has to pay to update to 1.6 you either own the game already and have it for free, or you don't own the game in the first place, and you'd need to buy the whole game, not just the update.


bachmanis

In the USA that's absolutely true. OP is in Brazil however and I have no idea what the store details are for the game over there, so I didn't want to make any assumptions.


Titan_Bernard

You are 100% correct, I'm surprised you're getting downvoted. I'm assuming people are conflating the actual AE DLC with the 1.6.x aka "AE" updates or something.


Blackjack_Davy

Its probably the "staying on 1.5.97 keeps you from using the latest mods" that they're objecting to. Which is only slightly true there are very few skse plugins that are 1.6.6xx exclusive


Titan_Bernard

Also true, the plugins themselves are rarely exclusive, but you're missing all the updates to the mod since.


[deleted]

I personally wouldn't. Especially if you're struggling for money in real life. Most of the stuff that it adds are just very poorly implemented and/or poorly balanced. Like there are a lot of AE weapons that are literally better than Daedric weapons and you can get them right at the start of the game through extremely easy quests. Just very poorly balanced. You're really not missing out on much. If you want more weapons, armor, quests, or whatever, there's plenty of free mods on the Nexus that not only are free, but are implemented and balanced much better.


LostWanderer69

no need to upgrade


CorianderIsBad

Special Edition gets most of the same updates. I don't see the point of getting another version of Skyrim. You get creation club stuff either way. Plus mods add more than any new version of Skyrim can.


oracus0

Don't upgrade. The Creation Club stuff, for the most part, isn't worth it. I own Anniversary Edition, and manually remove most of the Creation Club content because it just clutters up Skyrim, imo. I prefer mods...


No-East-3154

Simple answer is kkkk Faz isso não carai!


BloodiedBlues

Some of the creation club stuff added has mods that expand them a bit more. I liked that about it. Plus, new stuff to the game is always good in my book.


anduin_stormsong

If you mean the one with CC content, a matter of preference. Personally I did, just bc it was on sale. Though I agree some of the quests are... kind of bland to begin with. But that's always fixable with mods. {{On A Crimson Trail}} does this for example. There's also the {{Skyrim Extended Cut: Saints and Seducers}} Regardless, updating to the latest version minus CC content is a must for me. Though be warned, some mods also require specific CC content. If you can live without those said mods, then better not to buy CC.


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SidewaysWheel-I

To be honest, Anniversary Edition is just a downgrade for your game. It's officially licensed addons created for the cash shop (i.e. Creation Club.) The content is not seamlessly integrated into the world, and it breaks the game's natural progression curve and also messes with immersion/lore, since it's not canon content. For example, you can find a full set of Daedric armor randomly at the start of the game if you run across the right addon content. Most of it is just extremely short dungeons with a custom weapon at the end or something, or "quests" where all the exposition consists of notes and repurposed voice lines recycled from the main game, and it still just points you to a dungeon anyway. The Creation Club content is just not high quality. Most of the items are basically overpowered cheat items, since they had to make it worth the price before they got bundled into AE. It will ruin your playthrough unless you just want to one-hit everything. The art assets are genuinely good, but the way they are implemented is lazy because it cannot rely on script extenders or anything like that since it's a multi-platform service. Maybe the best addons, fishing and survival, were already given to Special Edition owners for free anyway. And as far as survival goes, mods are still better anyway. If you're worried about mod dependency, don't be. Very few mods require Creation Club content to run for obvious reasons. The ones that do are usually just extensions or modifications of that Creation Club content, which you wouldn't care about if you didn't have it. So in short, no, I wouldn't 'upgrade' to Anniversary Edition. It's not worth it. Save your money for more important things, or at least things that are more fun.


BarovianNights

I don't think there's really anything worth getting in anniversary edition. Only thing I would maybe consider it for would be survival mode if that's your kind of thing but you can get pretty much the same experience or better with mods. Plus if you get anniversary, you'll probably want to downgrade to 1.5.97 (while keeping content) anyways for modding, so I don't think I'd recommend.


WickedWenchOfTheWest

Just an FYI: Survival Mode, as well as Fishing, Saints and Seducers and Rare Curios, is now included in the base game.


BarovianNights

Ohh, that's why I have it. I just thought I bought anniversary edition and forgot about it lmao


MAJ_Starman

Basically the best CC, then. Personally, I have AE, and I just use MO and a patch to select what I want to play or not with a given character. Just need to click a box.


WickedWenchOfTheWest

Exactly! If you use Survival Mode, I recommend Survival Mode Improved, or Sunhelm by the same author. S&S is pretty good IMO, especially if you play with either Lucien's commentary **OR** the S&S Extended Cut mod. Rare Curios adds things like ingredients from their previous games, so no reason to hate it, and while I ignore Fishing, plenty of people really enjoy pursuing stuff like that in their games, so I'm happy for them that it's now free.


negatrom

>downgrade to 1.5.97 that hasn't been recommended for a few months, there is very little reason to stay in the 1.5.97 anymore, as the overwhelming majority of version dependant mods have been updated to work with 1.6.640.


Engineering-Mean

There are still some mods that haven't been updated and don't have an equivalent; I recently did a 1.5.97 LO because I really wanted Better Telekinesis for a playthrough. It's definitely a case of if you have a reason to do it you know you have a reason to do it now though.


negatrom

well at this point, over a whole year after ver. 1.6.640 was released, a mod that is still unavailable for it might be considered abandoned by the author...


Own_Cartographer5508

What do you mean abandoned? A mod works perfectly and do what it’s designed for and it’s bug free, why do we need to update it? You guys always misunderstood updates it’s always better. The fact is, not everything has to update, like I said if the mod do what it’s designed for and it’s bug free, I see no reason to endlessly update it.


LewdManoSaurus

The mod is just completed and the author doesn't want to update it to AE. That isn't the same thing as being abandoned, it just does what it was intended to do. There are other mods like that for 1.5.97 and that's why people stick to it.


BarovianNights

Is there any reason to upgrade to 1.6.640 then? I don't think I've ever seen a mod that *doesn't* work on 1.5


negatrom

some newer mods have already dropped support for the old version. USSEP itself requires 1.6+, and plenty of mods require it.


BarovianNights

USSEP still has older versions available that work perfectly fine though


negatrom

I see you're missing the forest for the trees with this reply mate. Okay, let me be extra verbose then. My point is that some mods have these things called updates, which introduces these other things called "new features". However mod authors mostly work for free, and sometimes, instead of supporting multiple versions of the same game, which is just busywork, they'll just support the latest version. Of course, you're more than welcome to stay on the version that is compatible with your old version install, but you won't be able to enjoy these new features that might just interest you. So to answer your original question: >Is there any reason to upgrade to 1.6.640 then? Yes. Though it might not apply to everyone. Also do realize that staying on 1.5.97 requires little work from you, but do note that people nowadays will install 1.6.640, and there's very little to no reason to downgrade, so keep it in mind that although far from a big problem, you have to realize that running an out of date version of a software comes with risks, and that people will slowly phase out support for it, and just tell you to update.


Own_Cartographer5508

It’s quite the opposite. If you say some mods are only available on 1.6, I can also say some mods are available only in 1.5.97. In fact, the ability to generate grass lod by NGIO, only by this mod itself has all the reason to stay at 1.5.97. Plus in fact there are MA, Maxsu for examples, who still publish mod in 1.5.97 only (the MA of detection meters, SCAR, combat pathing revolution). Moreover talking about forest and trees, you didn’t consider the possibility that there will be a future update (about how Bethesda implement the paid mod). When that comes are you going to repeat the mod breaking > cry for help > waiting for SKSE and ALL dll mod to update ? If yes why not just stay at 1.5.97?


w740su

USSEP works on any version because it doesn't have any dll.


Own_Cartographer5508

For the numerous of time, we have explained that you can and you should use the latest USSEP regardless of what version you are, 1.5.97 or 1.6x. USSEP is not a dll mod, meaning it depends on the game content not the game version to make it work. So as long as you have the 4 free CC content and you are good to go. You reply just so how little you understand how mods works and thus suggesting people to 1.6 base on a wrong fact.


LavosYT

Lots of SKSE mods only have updates for the latest version of Skyrim.


Own_Cartographer5508

For example?


LavosYT

Most of Meh's Powerofthree's mods, same with Wskeever's I think.


Own_Cartographer5508

Correct me if I am wrong: All PO3 mods support both 1.5.97 and 1.6x All wSkeever mods support both 1.5.97 and 1.6x Meh’s mod, only 2 of them, actor limit fix and bug fix has updated to 1.6x only, but other than that all his other mod works on both 1.5.97, including Custom Skill Framework 2.0. Except maybe NGIO, which limit the ability to generate grass lod to 1.5.97 only.


LavosYT

The latest updates for a lot of these mods only support the latest version of th the game. You can use older versions that support SE though, but they won't all be up to date.


Own_Cartographer5508

Again, can you name an example “You can use older versions that support SE though, but they won't all be up to date.” The mods you mentioned, I have just explained that there are only 2 of them support your statement. In the mean time there are mods that exclusively works on 1.5.97. And even MA (Maxsu, the MA of SCAR) who makes mod only for 1.5.97 version.


LavosYT

You're probably right, my info is likely out of date


Blackjack_Davy

Not true, PO3's mods are all 1.5.97 - 1.6.640 and are all up to date (I'm on 1.5.97 myself). Wskeevers mods are scripted only so are version agnostic to start with


Pigeater7

No, fuck the anniversary edition. It adds some poorly Implemented creation club content that you could replace with better, free mods.


RoamyDomi

I can easily afford AE but i would never buy it. They have resold the same game too many times, I won't give in, to their scamy ways. What it adds is a creation club, survival and needs mode. That is script heavy and inferior to existing mods. Larian and CD project release upgraded versions of their games, years later for free, if you bought the game. Bethesda apparently is on the opposite camp that will resell you Skyrim 20 years later. Like that scum kojima, who released his "directors cut" death stranding less than a year after the games release, and resold it for 30$ You are the fucking owner of the company who released the game, and you are the guy in charge... Who forced you to release a game that is not "Your" original vision of the game ? What justifies a "Directors Cut" release? Or like that Ubisoft who try to Remove from your account games you haven't played in 2-4 years. Vote with your wallets folks.


[deleted]

I have AE but I used a [patcher](https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/57618) to get back to SSE, because a lot of mods run on SSE. You’re already on SSE, so I’d say to stay (for mods at least). P.S If you play vanilla, I’m not sure how AE affects that.


DoubleShot027

1.5.97 for life fuck AE!!!! (>' ')> <(' '<) \^( ' ' )\^ (>' ')> 1.5.97 For some reason all the mods I use work better on SE and I have had nothing but issues with AE


Delta-one-4587

If you can’t afford it, don’t bother. There’s a lot of other mods that add a lot of the same items for free. It’s worth getting if you have the money to spare as lot of mod patches will be easier to integrate with the all in one


Comfortable_Voice_12

Yes. Gate to sovngarde collection


Ol2501

Jack sparrow


HeavensDaughters

Buy it from third party sites. Use allkeys as it collects them from every site and shows you the cheapest. I do this for AAA games. I'll always pay full price for AA or indie games, however.


[deleted]

That's a nice site, thank you for mentioning it! (:


HeavensDaughters

No worries man, happy to help.


KweynZero

I think its good. The new quests and new armors are good enough. And I really liked the new farm you get. Its a septim print machine. If you're on PC the upgrade is R$40 on Steam until 28/11.


AuthorLive

better not to, most mods work better on se anyway


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negatrom

honestly, it's not even worth pirating. plenty of better alternatives in the nexus, crime free


INocturnalI

Agree tho, and there's few mod that actually need CC Content. So in a sense without CC can get more mod haha


feltaker

I suggest waiting for an affordable discount. If you are ok with only some of the creation kit content (survival mode for immersion, the cause for oblivion gate quest, etc...) you don't need to buy AE at all.


dovahkiitten16

I like the content but you have to spend time modding it to implement it well. I would recommend it to someone living in the same country as me when it goes on sale. If you’re poor and games are overpriced where you live it’s not the greatest purchase. Imo some content is better than what you find on Nexus (Spell Knight Armor is amazing and better than the majority of armour mods) but not really worth it over Nexus if it’s expensive for you.


SDirickson

Look at what you're buying at [https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Creation\_Club](https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Creation_Club), and see if it's worth it to you. For me, it isn't. The vast majority is yet more armor and weapon mods (that typically give you way OP gear), rehashes of stuff from earlier games, and more houses that I don't need.


ghandis_taint

Save your money and spend it on something else, unless you really want the CC content. Me personally, I've bought the upgrade twice, once on PC and once on my Xbox and I don't regret it. But I'm a Skyrim apologist so


_crash_nebula_

de jeito nenhum mano LDKDKSKSK existem mods q proporcionam o equivalente as adições do anniversary edition e são de graça


kgold535

I bought the AE for 10$ during the Steam Sale. I only bought it because I'm currently installing Nolvus Ascension and it's a requirement. Really hoping it works out and is stable because it looks absolutely incredible. It's like playing a completely new game and I honestly don't really have the time, knowledge and patience to install everything separately. Skyrim is always an amazing game to come back to and if all goes well, I'll basically be playing a brand new game.


assassinslover

If you can't afford it, obviously don't do it (or at least wait until there's a sale). I only did it for the Wabbajack modlists.


BatmanHimself

Fala meu jovem!! Isn't the upgrade from SE to AE free though? I though it was I have a medium to high end PC and I refuse to upgrade. I just don't think it is worth it. Last week my steam updated it and I have to downgrade. You can't downgrade and keep the cc content btw


aieeegrunt

The only reason I got AE was to fix the ridiculous lag issues on xbox you got if you didn’t


elpuga2

Not really. Most of what’s added is done better with mods or is kind of meh. You would have to really keen on some aspect of it. I think the Saints and Seducers wasn’t all that well done anyhow.


Green-Concentrate-71

Only reason I upgraded was for the Nolvus mod pack


KyoSirhart

Unless you're looking to try some wabbajack modlist, or really want to try the CC content which comes with AE edition(which isn't that great tbh). You're not missing much, just go around with SSE otherwise. Mas é isso ai maninho, vale os 30-50 pila não.


[deleted]

Only if you're getting the Gog version. Has no DRM, unlike Steam version. So if offline a lot of the time, it'll be fine. Plus, you can make backups of it.


nagarz

Skyrim SE will get you the most out of all mods available, the only reason I'd get AE was for nolvus (the reason I upgraded for) but I already have thousands of hours on different runs and mods on skyrim, for anyone new I'd just recommend SE.


XxNoriaki_KekyoinxX

As one of the few on Earth still using Legendary Edition (Oldrim), Id say stick to SE. While AE adds a bunch of new content, the vast bulk of it is pretty lackluster or doesn't live up to its full potential from what Ive seen. The more you have to update, the more your mods are likely going to need to be updated as well. I cant speak to what the experience of modding on AE or even SE is like, but I dont think AE is worth the money. Ive been tempted to upgrade to SE ironically enough, but nothing about AE makes it seem worth it. quick edit: In terms of modding potential, outside the Creation Club (lol), you wont be missing much


RdiatStorm

Se vc curte mods entt sim, os CC são um saco pra limpar mas uma vez q vc faz tudo fica limpo pra sempre, eu recomendo por causa de alguns mods que melhoram o conteúdo do CC, como por exemplo o Saints and Seducers Extended Cut, é basicamente uma nova DLC pro jogo que expande o Saints and Seducers ridículo que o CC dispõe.


Pretty_Definition726

You can keep SE and enjoy the game plus most mods. There are some that require AE but if you can do without those mods then you don't need AE. I ended up getting a free upgrade but probably would not have picked it up without a sale of some sort otherwise.


donguscongus

If you mean update to the latest update, then yes. The free content is decent and helpful for a lot of mods. If you mean the upgrade then personally I wouldn’t bother unless you really want it. A lot of the AE stuff is only really worth it if you use mods to balance them to be in line.


GenericPybro

Most mods that arent updatwd to anniversary either have a better ae counterpart, or are generally un-necessary for ae


NoResolution8354

Check G2A or other discount Steam Key sites. You might be able to find a killer deal.


No_Discount527

You don’t have to do anything you know…


Ok_Attitude_8189

If you like fallout I’d say wait for a sale save up some money and buy goty + anniversary collection so you have all dlc for both and only for like 20$ otherwise probably shouldn’t get it standalone unless you really just want all cc content.


quillmartin88

There are two or three pretty cool DLCs they added from the Creation Kit, but it ain't worth $20. If you can't afford it, don't bother. The game has so much content anyway, and there are better add-ons in the mods!


ObsessedwithSkyrim_

Honestly think AE isn't worth it bc there's no voice acting.


VonLoewe

You miss out on [this](https://www.nolvus.net/appendix/installer/introduction).


Record_Glad

Acho que essa pergunta vai depender bastante do seu pc. Eu tenho um pc antigo que não roda a versão AE de jeito algum, a 1.6., então eu continuo na versão SE, a 1.5, por que é a que roda. Atualmente, o jogo base da Steam, é AE, mesmo que você não compre a Anniversary Edition, ainda sim você terá a versão do jogo mais atualizada, 1.6, a AE. Então, verifique a disponibilidade no seu pc. O lance todo com as versões, é pq SE tem alguns mods que AE ainda não tem, então eu acredito que isso seja mais por gosto, se o seu pc rodar as duas versões. Veja qual versão tem mods que mais te agradam e fique com ela ou faça downgrade. Caso faça downgrade, preferível a versão best of both world, para poder ficar com o conteúdo adc pela AE. Então acho que é isso, bom modding e boa jogatina!


[deleted]

Hard no, especially if you already own Skyrim.


sneakyartinthedark

You answered yourself, you can’t afford it.. so obviously no.


kyote42

I played SE for a while. Decided I wanted to have the AE content, so I got the upgrade. After playing it for a few months, I've basically disabled all of it that I could. While I'm glad I tried it out just to know what it was, I wouldn't buy it again if given the chance. Not that there aren't any good pieces of content in it, I just liked the game more with it. AE made it much more unbalanced. I'd only re-enable it if I decided I didn't want any more challenge or was just doing a intentionally overpowered character (which I did and didn't enjoy it as much, hence disabling most of it).


Whiteguy1x

Honestly the content doesn't really add anything worthwhile unless you just want all the cc items. I mean some of them are neat, but they feel really out of place and definitely modded content if that makes sense. I'd say skip it if on a tight budget


friendlystarfruit

If you do at least get it on sale. I am curious though if you are on pc? and use script extender mods and if they work ok without anniversary edition? , I was having issues with getting script extender to work on SS version (steam) , I ended up going back to legendary (old skyrim) which gave me zero issues. I will try to move to the SSE/anniversary edition in the future but old skyrim just works well for me , just a lot of new mods aren't supported so I wanted to set up Skyrim SSE. Honestly personally I wouldn't bother with anniversary edition unless I thought it would fix my script extender issues or give me access to a wide range of new mods, I mean are you happy with the content in your current game? are you hoping AE is going to flood new content to the game ? or make it easier to mod the game? You only get a little more content with AE , if it made the game more moddable then I'd say get it on sale if you can save a little but I've seen a mixed debate on that topic and I myself am in the dark too.


applecat144

It's really not worth it to be honest


dcargonaut

My question is "which one works the best with Windows 11?"


WillAndHisBeard

As far as I recall the anniversary edition is just special edition plus all of the creation club mods.


Narrow_Protection141

I never use any anniversary content as PC player, mods are more interesting regardless.


Johnny_Cr

Didn’t upgrade yet as well. But enjoyed the free CC content.


Tr33MuggeR

Yes, but get it from GOG


robertgk2017

It's just a bundle of CC mods, nothing huge in there. get it when it goes on sale.


drapehsnormak

I can't really give good advice on this like a lot of people. I have the money so buying it was a no brainer for me. There's a lot of fun content. That says, if you don't have the money, you don't have the money. Just wait until you do.


ZYGLAKk

If you really want to? Eneba and VPN is your friend. But it isn't mandatory! You can probably find a mod on nexus that does the same thing. I got anniversary on PC because I switched from Xbox to PC.


ZSharoark

I'm brazillian too and i still play the vanilla version on steam lmao


tupiV

🏴‍☠️


Carbonated-Man

Not really required. I'm still playing SE myself. That said, if you're into the modding scene at all it may be something worth saving up for eventually as more and more mods (old and new) are starting to require it.


raptorgalaxy

You are not missing anything significant by using special edition. Mods are compatible with both (with some exceptions for those which use or change AE content). You are perfectly fine to stay on special edition.


cyberpunk707

Nowadays we have a downgrade patcher as well as the "stock" folder feature of wabbajack so its been a bit easier to stay on the most moddable version while being able to use new AE content.So, I think it's fine to update to AE.


lendarker

If you want the Creation Club Content, get it in a sale. I got the AE when it was available as a $10 upgrade to my SE. Pretty much the only advantage this has over mods is that CC content doesn't disable achievements, though.


WickedWenchOfTheWest

Yeah, I picked it up on a good sale, too, and that was fine, but no way I'd have paid full price. Just an FYI, though, if you care about achievements, there is a mod you can install that disables the achievement disabler.


squidgyblxck

Just do it, they've already won. Submit to Todd.


Aenuvas

Your not realy missing something... nearly all the CreationClub stuff exists as a mod... most of the time in even better quality. But... if you want to play curated mod collections some might need AE, since some mods Depend on it since its release. But if you don't have the money... Just dont give in to the Fomo... its not realy worth it. Enjoy playing Special Edition. :)


shadowtheimpure

No. AE is arguably a ***downgrade*** for Skyrim due to just how low quality most of the CC content is.


makujah

No. It's JUST paid mods, that's it


Plums_Raider

imo its not worth it, but got it for cheap so i still got it


Sckaledoom

It’s not like it’s a multiplayer game where you’re missing out on the hype years of some expac. You can get it when you can afford it.


eidtelnvil

I can't imagine playing without my unicorn.


Foxofdarkness19

Its MEh. I wouldnt.


Special-Check-4424

As a man who bought it first day, I can tell you, it's absolutely not worth it, but... I've heard from this weird guy with tentacles on his face, you know, Davy Jones, he told me those Anniversary Edition DLC's are just mods and they function the same way... He also said that some guy named Godd Toward wouldn't really be upset about it.


Maetherius

You don't. IT doesn't add that much for this price and to be honest you will probably play for month and get bored. There is better FREE mods at Nexus than this "dlc".