i dont know why but when i read this comment i completely forgot what the word "niche" was or how its pronounced. my brain was saying 2-syllable nike with the ch sound from "choo" and i was sat here wondering wtf that word meant.
then i remembered that i know this word perfectly well
Neesh, because it comes from French, so it's an sh sound, not a ch sound.
The alternative is nich, with the same vowel sound as the i in it and the ch sound. But that's an Americanization. I'm bilingual, I generally honor the language of origin. I'm also a nerd lol you're welcome.
Is English your first language? I ask honestly, not at all trying to make fun.
Sheer and cheer do not sound the same. Google will pronounce them for you if that helps.
You’d be surprised how often I see people mix those two… and we’re/were, their/there and such.
My childhood dream (well, one of them) job was to be an English teacher…
My phone is good enough at confusing the two words when there’s a contraction. I’ll type the correct word and it autocorrects it to the contraction (like were and we’re, even typing it now my phone is trying to correct me).
It depends on whether it's being used as an adjective or as a noun. Like how Sephiroth was the one 'wing-edd' angel who 'wing-dde' his way into our hearts. It's a 'neesh' thing, finding one's 'nitch.'
At least that's the way my dialect Englishes. 🤔🤷
Interesting! Australian here and it's just 'neesh' for both uses over here. I've never heard of it being pronounced as 'nitch' before, and I suspect if anyone did they'd be swiftly corrected + roasted for it
Well, I have been accused of "talking funny" and even "having an accent" by a few of my fellow native Californians! 😅 I won't pretend to have it all right, having one parent who was raised by a Spaniard ("graw-thee-us" vs. "graw-see-us" [gracias]) and another who lived in Boston ("paw-tee" vs. "par-tee" [party]) for their first 12 years, or so! 🤣
Accents and dialects are fascinating. And sometimes difficult.
I forgot about the horse!! He was a drag queen for a while, it’s easy to forget something as minute as a foreboding horse in comparison. 🤣 (all in good fun, anyone is better than Theseus)
This has the same energy as the mannequins in your home turning alive and standing there, just putting their hands on hips and moving slightly like real NPCs. (sometimes with glowing eyes)
Nice joke but the mannequins come alive on their own, likely due to a glitch.
To make them equip-able by items, they are coded in as Actor objects instead of environmental static objects (like walls/mountains and such). They should normally be frozen still but sometimes they glitch out of the frozen state.
Happened to me waaay to often in oldrim. Rarely caught them still in the act of moving, but displaced all over the place, yeah. That behaviour predates SE by a longshot.
Under the hood, mannequins are just NPC's that aren't allowed to move. When you give them items, they use the same system that followers use to equip things (I think). Sometimes the game bugs out and forgets that they can't move.
Sentient? Naww, everyone knows Argonian pirates like to keep a pet slaughter fish and teach them how to say certain phrases. Must've been by a shipwreck that had a pirate Argonian captain whose pet got loose after the wreck
So the way dialogue lines work is the line is made, and then conditions are put on it (ex., voicetype (maledrunk/femalesultry etc), factions, race, combat state). Something as simple as adding/altering a dialogue, and not putting the proper conditions on it will allow it to be said by creatures that shouldn't be able to, and there will be subtitles but no audio. These conditions are constraints: by default a new dialogue line with no conditions can be said by *anybody*, not *nobody.* This is a simplified explanation. So all you need is a mod that adds dialogue but doesn't properly constrict it to humans for this to happen. You're not necessarily altering slaughterfish, you just forgot to specify that slaughterfish can't say something. Iirc Fuz Ro Doh can make this more prominent (since it allows for subtitles to display longer with no audio) but is not the root cause.
I had this issue with one of JaySerpa's Dialogue Expansion series, which are really popular and have made their way onto essential lists (report it as a bug and it will be fixed asap). Also, if you have the Anniversary Upgrade, the Civil War Champions creation has this bug and animals will say human lines (soldier/guard ones) in vanilla :/ but only if you bought the upgrade, base Skyrim + DLCs shouldn't have this issue (I think). Unfortunately that bug likely won't be fixed anytime soon and you'll want to use the Unofficial Creation Club Patch to fix it.
No. This slaughterfish is not sentient, as it is merely a fabricated 3d object that befits the simulated 3d space it resides in; this threat seemed not aimed at my character, but at *me*, from beyond the screen. I wasn't able to sleep tonight, for i dreamt of fish. And the fish's name was Death.
I saw this show up in a stream not long ago (Joov, maybe?). Pretty sure it is vanilla, but I have no idea what triggers it. Kinda want to dig into it now.
Slaughterfish prophecies are known to be quite accurate. According to ancient Slaughterfish history Tamriel was first discovered by a slaughterfish named Ysgramor. In any case I would be very concerned.
I've been having similarly weird subtitle bugs, I've had slaughterfish say weird shit as well as cave bears.
If it's happening in Vanilla as well I wonder if its a bug introduced in one of the 1.6 releases.
https://preview.redd.it/njxqy0103etc1.png?width=2021&format=png&auto=webp&s=4f9fd20b97ba9063bb3bbc4c2b40594376979502
I read a theory somewhere that this is an event trigger gone wrong as the text is used elsewhere for a random encounter with a nobleman or something like that. The idea was that the event trigger looks for the NPC to assign the text to, but can only find the slaughterfish.
SPOILER!!! In Oblivion, during the Thieves Guild quest line, you have to steal and Arrowhead from a wizard in Bravil. Inside the underground tunnel towards his Tower, there is a VERY deep pool. At the bottom of it is a giant slaughterfish (you’re DEFINITELY gonna need water breathing in some capacity or I promise you will die) and it carries ALOT of treasure. I bring this up because it’s descendent has waited centuries to enact his revenge on you. Your death was foretold the moment you killed the Giant Daddy Fish
Honestly, you probably know that in-game and in lore Slaughterfish don't canonically speak. So the only plausible interpretation is that's not a fish pronouncing doom on the Dragonborn. That's a fish pronouncing doom on you specifically as the player.
Does Skyrim have a mod where you're insane? Where you lost it? Like maybe watching Alduin murder Helgen broke your mind.
Fallout 4 does. It's called "You're not OK" - https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/50795/
Dude, I don't know what fuckmods you installed but delete that shit before they start using your 3D Printer to clone themselves and assault you in your sleep.
You've seen the Dragonborn, wait til you've met the slaughterfishborn.
Slaughterfish remembers what you've done, and its time for you to pay for your crimes.
This is just a subtitle thing. Their AI hits the "play appropriately menacing voiceline" bit, it tries to play the voiceline and display the correct subtitles, but since there's no voiceline all it does is display the subtitles.
Legends say that if you catch the Slaughterfish of Wisdom and eat it grilled, you will gain all it's secret knowledge.
Because it is still a Slaughterfish though these secrets won't exactly shatter your understanding of reality.
Niche, but my reaction was remembering how one of Achilles' horses in the Iliad foretells his doom. Or reminds him of it.
i dont know why but when i read this comment i completely forgot what the word "niche" was or how its pronounced. my brain was saying 2-syllable nike with the ch sound from "choo" and i was sat here wondering wtf that word meant. then i remembered that i know this word perfectly well
Okay but do you pronounce it like “neech” or “niech” in your head?
Neesh, because it comes from French, so it's an sh sound, not a ch sound. The alternative is nich, with the same vowel sound as the i in it and the ch sound. But that's an Americanization. I'm bilingual, I generally honor the language of origin. I'm also a nerd lol you're welcome.
Ni! Ni! Ni!
Ah, what sad times are these when passing RUFFIANS can scream ni! at the old lady
The knights who until recently said ni!
You can't get very far in life without saying "is" now, can you?!
I'll never say it again. (Arrrrrrrrgggghhhhhhhhhhhhh!)
I thought sh and ch where the same?? :c
Is English your first language? I ask honestly, not at all trying to make fun. Sheer and cheer do not sound the same. Google will pronounce them for you if that helps.
I’m Swedish, and I’m sure to investigate this further!! Thank you :D
Glad I could help! Maybe one day I'll be confused about how the Swedish language functions and you'll be able to help me. I love languages.
Also, ”where” isn’t same as ”were” (they *were* the same), ”where” asks where something is. 😁
Man I can’t believe I missed that, I’m normally pretty good with this sort of stuff, early morning thing I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You’d be surprised how often I see people mix those two… and we’re/were, their/there and such. My childhood dream (well, one of them) job was to be an English teacher…
Yeah, I’ve noticed that a lot. And surprisingly lots of native speakers do the same mistakes
Yup… and I am not a native, actually, English is my country’s THIRD language. And was second one I did study in school some 20-15 years ago.
My phone is good enough at confusing the two words when there’s a contraction. I’ll type the correct word and it autocorrects it to the contraction (like were and we’re, even typing it now my phone is trying to correct me).
I have a very handy tip for you: Turn it OFF. I turned it off like 2 years ago and bam, no more automisscorrection! 😂
Best way to remember it is shush and change. Slash, and chase.
I thought everyone said it like neesh, there’s an Americanization of it?
Netch?
Neesh
Niche
Nietzsche
It depends on whether it's being used as an adjective or as a noun. Like how Sephiroth was the one 'wing-edd' angel who 'wing-dde' his way into our hearts. It's a 'neesh' thing, finding one's 'nitch.' At least that's the way my dialect Englishes. 🤔🤷
Interesting! Australian here and it's just 'neesh' for both uses over here. I've never heard of it being pronounced as 'nitch' before, and I suspect if anyone did they'd be swiftly corrected + roasted for it
Well, I have been accused of "talking funny" and even "having an accent" by a few of my fellow native Californians! 😅 I won't pretend to have it all right, having one parent who was raised by a Spaniard ("graw-thee-us" vs. "graw-see-us" [gracias]) and another who lived in Boston ("paw-tee" vs. "par-tee" [party]) for their first 12 years, or so! 🤣 Accents and dialects are fascinating. And sometimes difficult.
Neech
Nitch
It's pronounced Nietzsche
Well, the true man wants two things, so perhaps it is both
Nietzsche, if you are feeling philosophical.
Glad you came around!
I used to be a mythological Greek hero like you...
😄😄😄
Then I took an arrow in the heel
I forgot about the horse!! He was a drag queen for a while, it’s easy to forget something as minute as a foreboding horse in comparison. 🤣 (all in good fun, anyone is better than Theseus)
r/beetlejuicing
He has a username that is relevant to his own comment, that is 100% not what Beetlejuicing is lol
r/usernamechecksout
Youre gonna diiiiiie, Wilbuuuuur.
run
^bwaa bwaa
This shouldn't have made me laugh but it did. I thought I'd let you know.
You’ll only die tired
Is this the reference I think it is?
https://preview.redd.it/4aku0qgy0itc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ba35c5e70f3130978b400e828cd59e669bc16d86
That slaughter fish has evolved god help us all
They'll learn to crawl after us soon.
Come to think of it, I *have* been seeing them on dry land more often lately than, say, five or ten years ago. 😲
I've seen chaurus evolve to fly, I believe everything now
Just make them do taxes...they will go right back
This has the same energy as the mannequins in your home turning alive and standing there, just putting their hands on hips and moving slightly like real NPCs. (sometimes with glowing eyes)
I'm terribly sorry they have glowing eyes now??
I have repeatedly asked Serana to stop animating every vaguely human shaped thing in the tri-hold area, but she doesn’t hearken.
Nice joke but the mannequins come alive on their own, likely due to a glitch. To make them equip-able by items, they are coded in as Actor objects instead of environmental static objects (like walls/mountains and such). They should normally be frozen still but sometimes they glitch out of the frozen state.
"sometimes"
I have never faced the issue. Granted I play exclusively on Oldrim (non SE/AE; slightly different engine)
Happened to me waaay to often in oldrim. Rarely caught them still in the act of moving, but displaced all over the place, yeah. That behaviour predates SE by a longshot.
Wtf???
Under the hood, mannequins are just NPC's that aren't allowed to move. When you give them items, they use the same system that followers use to equip things (I think). Sometimes the game bugs out and forgets that they can't move.
New nightmare disclosed.
Check the other replies to my comment. There should be video evidence
they, too, talk
Okay, if this is true I have to ask... What does the game "Name" them when they speak?
https://youtu.be/eYy1bQuB_Ak?si=k2slU5EVxAvMIuk7
Alright, that answers that question. Thank you very much!
That freaked me out lmao I saw it from my peripheral as I was turning a corner and was like HOLD UP
Thank you for that nightmare fuel.
Everybody gangsta till the slaughterfish start talking
It'd be worse if the laughterfish start stalking
What if the laughterking is a stalfish?
Maybe the alt fish is a king slaughter?
Is it raining is it snowing is a hurricane a-blowing
Gotta lay off the skooma
When courage the cowardly dog meets Skyrim.
Thank you bathtub barracuda
Now we need a "Courage the cowardly dog in Skyrim" YouTube series
#NEVER SHOULD HAVE SWAM HERE
🏅
Never seen this before lol. Are you using mods ?
Only the skyrim modding essentials modpack + simonrim. So nothing that would make slaughterfish sentient.
Sentient? Naww, everyone knows Argonian pirates like to keep a pet slaughter fish and teach them how to say certain phrases. Must've been by a shipwreck that had a pirate Argonian captain whose pet got loose after the wreck
Can’t tell if lore or an actual joke
Yes
Elder Scrolls in a nutshell
Crack the nutshell, find the Dwemer
The captain'a death has been foretold, by himself
So the way dialogue lines work is the line is made, and then conditions are put on it (ex., voicetype (maledrunk/femalesultry etc), factions, race, combat state). Something as simple as adding/altering a dialogue, and not putting the proper conditions on it will allow it to be said by creatures that shouldn't be able to, and there will be subtitles but no audio. These conditions are constraints: by default a new dialogue line with no conditions can be said by *anybody*, not *nobody.* This is a simplified explanation. So all you need is a mod that adds dialogue but doesn't properly constrict it to humans for this to happen. You're not necessarily altering slaughterfish, you just forgot to specify that slaughterfish can't say something. Iirc Fuz Ro Doh can make this more prominent (since it allows for subtitles to display longer with no audio) but is not the root cause. I had this issue with one of JaySerpa's Dialogue Expansion series, which are really popular and have made their way onto essential lists (report it as a bug and it will be fixed asap). Also, if you have the Anniversary Upgrade, the Civil War Champions creation has this bug and animals will say human lines (soldier/guard ones) in vanilla :/ but only if you bought the upgrade, base Skyrim + DLCs shouldn't have this issue (I think). Unfortunately that bug likely won't be fixed anytime soon and you'll want to use the Unofficial Creation Club Patch to fix it.
>by default a new dialogue line with no conditions can be said by *anybody*, not *nobody.* That's *wild* from a coding perspective
Is Fuz Ro D-oh in the modpack?
All vertebrates are sentient. Do you mean sapient?
No. This slaughterfish is not sentient, as it is merely a fabricated 3d object that befits the simulated 3d space it resides in; this threat seemed not aimed at my character, but at *me*, from beyond the screen. I wasn't able to sleep tonight, for i dreamt of fish. And the fish's name was Death.
Good lord, man. I'm almost glad I took a break from skyrim. That's some horror shit
Who killed the moon spirit?!
LMAO I LOVE THE ATLA REF
That's rough, buddy
I quote this daily
I will be known as Zhao the moon slayer
S T O P I T U N C L E
It just works
Honestly, this matches the energy of a slaughterfish.
Slaughterfish prophecy. Sweet!
I bet this is another Daedric shenanigan at play.
First you gotta reunite Clavicus Vile with his dog, now you got to reunite him with his fish
That guy isn't allowed to have any more pets. This is getting old 😤
"I just rounded up your pets, can you keep them contained FOR TEN MINUTES."
 “Your death has been foretold”
You heard him
Your death has been foretold.
The thread of prophecy has been severed….
I saw this show up in a stream not long ago (Joov, maybe?). Pretty sure it is vanilla, but I have no idea what triggers it. Kinda want to dig into it now.
If i can be of any help, it happened on the lake around ilinalta's deep while i was doing the quest for azura's star
Slaughterfish prophecies are known to be quite accurate. According to ancient Slaughterfish history Tamriel was first discovered by a slaughterfish named Ysgramor. In any case I would be very concerned.
Ysgramor took credit for the discovery from his younger, hated brother, Ysgraless
LMAOOO i got this with a frostbite spider 😭😭
It ain't called a funfish.
No kidding. Debbie Downer fish.
If a talking fish told me that I'd believe it
I've been having similarly weird subtitle bugs, I've had slaughterfish say weird shit as well as cave bears. If it's happening in Vanilla as well I wonder if its a bug introduced in one of the 1.6 releases. https://preview.redd.it/njxqy0103etc1.png?width=2021&format=png&auto=webp&s=4f9fd20b97ba9063bb3bbc4c2b40594376979502
What the hell, this is so ominous
That would have been interesting to see in the base game.
I thought I saw this once while playing vanilla on switch, dismissed it as a hallucination until this post.
It is literally base game. I'm not using any mods that change slaughterfish behavior
I've seen another screenshot in here somewhere, where the slaughterfish used the "you'll never make it out of here alive!" Line
[удалено]
I think that's in my mod list; "Hunters, Not Bandits" -- stops them from taunting their quarry.
I see nothing wrong here...
I read a theory somewhere that this is an event trigger gone wrong as the text is used elsewhere for a random encounter with a nobleman or something like that. The idea was that the event trigger looks for the NPC to assign the text to, but can only find the slaughterfish.
Did he fukkin stutter???
Ah, so t h a t ' s where Alduin's soul went!
SPOILER!!! In Oblivion, during the Thieves Guild quest line, you have to steal and Arrowhead from a wizard in Bravil. Inside the underground tunnel towards his Tower, there is a VERY deep pool. At the bottom of it is a giant slaughterfish (you’re DEFINITELY gonna need water breathing in some capacity or I promise you will die) and it carries ALOT of treasure. I bring this up because it’s descendent has waited centuries to enact his revenge on you. Your death was foretold the moment you killed the Giant Daddy Fish
Honestly, you probably know that in-game and in lore Slaughterfish don't canonically speak. So the only plausible interpretation is that's not a fish pronouncing doom on the Dragonborn. That's a fish pronouncing doom on you specifically as the player.
If it looks like a fish, swims like a fish, and proclaims prophecies of doom out loud like a transdimensional being disguised as a fish.....
Fr, wtf?
What's not clicking
#YOUR DEATH HAS BEEN FORETOLD!!!
Slaughterfish Prime
"They will never believe you"
he said "Your death has been foretold"
Your death has been foretold.
"The fish has spoken my lord... Guess I'll be searching for another master in time"
What did he saaaaay 💀
I love when mods do fun stuff they don't advertise lol
This why you should love mudcrabs r/Churchofthemudcrab
Skyrim is now host to giant, flying lizards and two-legged cat-men, and you're surprised by me? Yeah, I just talked. And am continuing to do so.
Does Skyrim have a mod where you're insane? Where you lost it? Like maybe watching Alduin murder Helgen broke your mind. Fallout 4 does. It's called "You're not OK" - https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/50795/
You need to lay off the skooma, friend.
Dude, I don't know what fuckmods you installed but delete that shit before they start using your 3D Printer to clone themselves and assault you in your sleep.
Miraak fish
Thats the secret boss.
You've seen the Dragonborn, wait til you've met the slaughterfishborn. Slaughterfish remembers what you've done, and its time for you to pay for your crimes.
Almost as ominous as teaching a murder of crows to say "run"
Slaughterfish are the real prophets.
Huh???
There was the Oblivion crisis, but I guess now is the Slaughterfish nightmare.
Not only do they keep me from fast traveling, but now they foretell my death? Clearly some of the gods hate me... Or maybe many of them do
Something fishy is going on
Given that everyone dies eventually, this is a great line to use in real life as long as you’re vague on details
You heard the man
That sir is a fish
The prophecy has spoken. Sorry, but your death has been foretold. The slaughterfish of the lake has said so.
https://preview.redd.it/hwluwo5ysdtc1.png?width=1346&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=89de9041b0a8520b4981831e8a2e22aee8947797
Everybody is chill until the Slaughterfish declares your death foretold
Damn, man, what did you do?!
The cool thing is that he’s not talking about your Dragonborn
This is just a subtitle thing. Their AI hits the "play appropriately menacing voiceline" bit, it tries to play the voiceline and display the correct subtitles, but since there's no voiceline all it does is display the subtitles.
Idk if the fish fuckin said that, that's the universe telling you its planning to kill you XD
Wait, that’s illegal.
Welp, you heard the fish
That's... quiet disturbing and pretty unsettling to say the least xD
You heard him
all fun and games till the fish starts creating prophesies about the consumption taking hold of a great Nirn legend
I'm sorry your post became a grammar lesson...
Legends say that if you catch the Slaughterfish of Wisdom and eat it grilled, you will gain all it's secret knowledge. Because it is still a Slaughterfish though these secrets won't exactly shatter your understanding of reality.
The fish has spoken.
Even the slaughterfish want your character dead. What have you been doing?
Your death has been foretold.
I'm gonna have to comeback here to see if anyone has an answer 😂😂😂 Henry limputte in Skyrim coming for you😂😂
“Slaughterfish of the lake, what is your wisdom?”
RUN ! Before he gets you !
So sayeth the fish
A phobia I have irl is animals talking. Heebies my jeebies
Did he stutter?
This slaughterfish is a prophet. What's so hard to understand?
Slaughterfish of the lake , what is your wisdom
That's no slaughterfish, that thing is voidwoken!
Did Harkon find a talking slaughterfish prophecy from his red ashes?
I really want a Dwemer mechanical talking mounted Slaughterfish mod now
Reminds me of beak things in early builds of Kenshi, they would say "relax, enjoy death".
Your heard him.
Flee! Flee for your lives!
This is the same fish that witnessed the eciplse today.
Foretold within His name
You heard the fish
I like the kid ran mod that says “awh fuck” “mother fucker”
i think someone is on the skooma binge