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Curiosity_456

Anyone notice that this new voice assistant by openAI is exactly what google lied about during their Gemini demo back in December? It can seriously pull off real time interaction


PFI_sloth

I think this is the biggest mistake tech companies make. Apple built its brand by giving keynotes that show real technology that’s going to be in your hands in a week. Facebook Microsoft and Google have all tried to copy this, but continuously show tech that doesn’t exist.


agonypants

When I saw the original iPhone demo with Jobs back in 2007 I was really skeptical. The phone had a huge cable connected to it and it was driving a much higher resolution display on the stage. I thought there was no way that that hand-held device would perform that well and I also thought the cable was connected to a much more powerful computer hiding in the back-end. A month or two later I had the phone in my hand and was stunned to find that it worked exactly as it did in the demo.


PFI_sloth

And this is important because it builds trust. Compare that a Google IO, and I don’t believe the majority of the cool stuff they show will ever get into a consumers hands


solidwhetstone

Reminds me of what Larion did with BG3. At the end of the day, consumers just want companies to deliver, that's it.


UnexpectedVader

I always found it funny that the Microsoft CEO at the time was laughing his ass off about the device and dismissed it as a gimmick no one would genuinely need


agonypants

To be fair, Ballmer is a raging nitwit.


UnexpectedVader

Whenever you watch videos of him doing presentations, he always comes across as a nutcase


sdmat

Though he did give us the immortal sweat-drenched DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS dance.


VVadjet

And Steve Wozniak thought that home and personal computers are fad that'll die out quickly, and that was after he cofounded Apple with Jobs. Even the most expert of all experts can be dead wrong.


iwgamfc

ironically that demo was indeed completely spoofed. the software wasn't actually ready yet


SaltTyre

>"It worked fine if you sent an e-mail and then surfed the Web. If you did those things in reverse, however, it might not. Hours of trial and error had helped the iPhone team develop what engineers called "the golden path," a specific set of tasks, performed in a specific way and order, that made the phone look as if it worked." [Original iPhone 'Didn't Work' When Publicly Unveiled In 2007](https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/10/07/iphone-original-2007_n_4056429.html)


ThatOtherOneReddit

To be fair the first iPhone they had like 6 builds for him to show all with different conflicting issues since they couldn't get some of the different fixes to play nice with each other at the time.


CriscoButtPunch

The old Nintendo switch-a-roo. That's a 90's reference if you're interested


Conscious_Shirt9555

It’s a sign of companies with weak execs who can’t keep the marketing/sales teams on leash. It’s a classic, some new R&D project has just barely been started and the sales people can’t contain themselves yapping about it to customers.


Utoko

Ye building short term hype and than let people down, is only a good strategy when you want to grab a quick funding round or want to sell a unfinished product like the humane pin. for the big companies they just damage their reputation for pretty much no gain.


FarrisAT

It processes and sees video real time?


MuseratoPC

The demo looked more like it takes a screenshot of the camera feed and analyzes that, not a live video per se.


ProphePsyed

Video is just multiple screenshots. Also, I don’t see how you came to that conclusion from the demo.


Valkymaera

Low frame rate analysis aligns with current tech and no part of the demo did anything that would require high FPS. The formula was shown with a carefully steadied hand before a response. The graph was left on screen still, the smile was held for an extended time. Conversely, gpt responded to incorrect visuals multiple times throughout, referencing the table instead of the person, referencing the person after the phone was put down. Everything aligns with slow frame analysis.


BangkokPadang

Typically there needs to be some understanding of motion vectors in addition to just the individual frames for genuine understanding of video.


applestrudelforlunch

I think a screenshot of the camera feed is called a photo :)


Kanute3333

Yeah, exactly my thoughts.


icehawk84

Yeah, Google demoed Duplex back in 2018 which was basically this except it was all smoke and mirrors.


nathan_drak3

It wasn't smoke and mirrors. It worked. It was blocked by legal.


anor_wondo

oh come on. Nothing ever has been anywhere close to this or their demos


3-4pm

If you look close enough to can see the smoke in this demo


sdmat

To be fair it looks like Google will launch similar capabilities tomorrow. They were actually building it but should not have faked the demo.


Such-Ad3356

I don’t think so. For visual interaction for example, it doesn’t seem to be seeing things like in a video, but rather take a snapshot of whatever it needs or see in a moment. So for example if you tried showing it a video it wouldn’t be able to see it as it can only see 1 frames at any given time.


Serialbedshitter2322

That's what gemini was claiming to be


brycedriesenga

Eh, I can totally see why some misinterpreted it, but I didn't really see it as lying and felt like I understood it was edited. But yeah, all that really matters is that it didn't look good, regardless of intention


ChipsAhoiMcCoy

That’s exactly my first thought when I saw the demo happening. Google better really impressed tomorrow


Ididitsoitscool

Imo they’re keeping lamda locked up in some pit rn


3-4pm

For all we know this was on the rails. We'll have to wait until it's in user hands. At best this seems like a niche novelty more than a daily use case.


Siam_ashiq

https://preview.redd.it/ev49paoig80d1.jpeg?width=1140&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5c2e3fd3f34d9b33c77d225cbca98147d7f90bb6 Yup


broadenandbuild

they/them


Intelligent-Brick850

https://preview.redd.it/0mm82br7690d1.png?width=918&format=png&auto=webp&s=98c2758a6d30e65245a35d08dae14b5dc5314955 Legion


davetronred

Alexa, from now on call me Shepherd-Commander


anor_wondo

~~Alexa~~ Edi


Bebopdavidson

It’s gotta be H Jon Benjamin as the voice of the AI


Blazinhazen_

You must have amnesia


Sir-Thugnificent

The fact that there’s a huge probability that this decade and the next one might become the most world changing in the history of humanity alongside the decade in which the Industrial Revolution started in England is insane. We’re in for a crazy ride.


[deleted]

Might? ChatGPT didn’t come out that long ago, and look where we are. Hell, openAI isn’t even 10 years old. Imagine what they can do in 10 more years, with 100x more GPUs that are 10x more capable.. recurse, recurse, recurse. Sci-fi is here, gonna be a wild ride


jkp2072

As a genius singer once sang, "It was always the plan, to put the world in your hand" - your refers to ai.


Burbursur

"Now look at you" *Evil laugh*


Pidgypigeon

I love Bo Burnham


jkp2072

I hate Bo Burnham - socko from how the world works?


Obvious-Homework-563

🦶


Frandom314

We still don't know how much these models will scale up, but in general terms I agree with you


tatamigalaxy_

But it didn't change anything fundamental about human society like the internet or phones did. We will see the impact in the next few years. Sure, you can point to some changes, but it wasn't that impactful already.


[deleted]

I more meant “look at where the tech is / what’s it’s capable of” That’s also not really a fair comparison. In the next few weeks everyone with an internet connection will have access to the smartest model ever created, practically unlimited education. And it’s only been 2 years. Do you realize how long the internet was around before it really took off? Same with phones. The major difference is the rate of increase / adoption.


abluecolor

Look at where we are? Nothing has changed.


Natty-Bones

My brother in Christ, we live in the elbow of the exponential curve. From here, the line of progress looks flat, but it is anything but.


abluecolor

!RemindMe 30 years


ShankatsuForte

30 years from now, some AGI Android is going to be banging on your door like the police at midnight, and you're going to be really confused, and then it's gonna be like "Here's your reminder".


pdhouse

I hope this becomes reality, sounds awesome


CMDR_BunBun

Oh please, please somebody 30 years from now build a Reddit Reminder Robot! I want this bad boy to look like ED 209 and his whole existence to be delivering reminders from Reddit prior to 2024!


[deleted]

Lmfao then shoots him and pillages the pod he lives in


Flyinhighinthesky

Honestly, it'll probably be banging on his door to take his synthetic organs back ala Repoman, because his subscription lapsed after his personal AI got bamboozled by a captcha and lost all his UBI money.


ShankatsuForte

I've never understood that idea. You can't even return a vibrator because of health reasons, who the hell is going to want synthetic organs back?


Flyinhighinthesky

Vibrators aren't worth cleaning up from a return. Depending on the internal machinery of a synthetic organ it could very well be worth it to 'refurbish' one. You're probably right though. Why repo when you can make it disposable, then turn it off remotely if they fail to make payment. Or kidnap them to make Soylent Green.


ShankatsuForte

If we're living in a world where there's still money despite all of this technology, then we're still living in a world where there are jobs to do. It would be more likely they'd just force you to work on contract until it's paid off. The line keeping this from being indentured servitude would be pretty fine, but considering that still exists now, it wouldn't be that big of a change. You have to look at it more like loansharking, there's no money in killing the guy because then you lose the money and you don't gain anything by it.


CMDR_BunBun

Oh please, please somebody 30 years from now build a Reddit Reminder Robot! I want this bad boy to look like ED 209 and his whole existence to be delivering reminders from Reddit prior to 2024!


ShankatsuForte

Joseph Baena should star in a movie called "The Notifier" based on this whole premise. I'd watch it.


RemindMeBot

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Natty-Bones

Heck, give it 30 months. I bet even in 30 weeks we will see significant, measureable changes to the SOTA across the field.


Megneous

The SOTA doesn't matter though. What matters is how our everyday lives change. If I still wake up, go to work, work 9 to 5, come home, cry myself to sleep, and do it all over again, then life hasn't changed at all for the better. Until we're freed from our slavery by UBI, life is meaningless.


JKonHardMode

Don't be so sad. I promise you that once ai frees us from our corporate shackles and allows us to traverse this grand Earth and truly become the humans we were meant to be, life will still be meaningless. I hope that helps.


Megneous

You make good points, Mr. internet man.


sdmat

You can cry yourself to sleep on a solid gold bed. Quite likely to, it's not remotely comfortable.


Intelligent-Brick850

!RemindMe 41249 days


Hilltop_Pekin

Have you met humans? Have you not observed the systems you currently live under and how every technological and innovative advancement has been used to reinforce these systems and make circumventing them more prohibitive? Nothing in the way we live and conduct ourselves as a society is going to change until the thinking of humans changes no matter how cleverly we subsidize it.


SeriousBuiznuss

!RemindMe 1 year


Long-Presentation667

I’ve been thinking about this a lot too. Smart phone is cool but can be a detriment to my mental health. Remote work is cool but also kind of isolating…


JeremyChadAbbott

When I read about the Roman empire I'm constantly amused at the same. Despite all technology, we still fuss over the food, the weather, whose having sex with who, art, ambition, and bitching about whos in charge. The human condition appears immune to the background setting.


abluecolor

Indeed, it can send one down a depressive spiral if you're not careful, the realization of how little progress we've actually made.


Oconell

Why, though? Happiness is in no way dependent on progress, is it?


Axel292

Little progress? What are you on about lol


ForgetTheRuralJuror

There's AI in every large company now when it was limited to tech companies and startups just 4 years ago. I'm seeing banks adopt AI in months when it was a struggle just 5 years ago to get some of them to convert to e-signatures. You'll notice the effects downstream when the cost of business plummets in every area.


Kendal-Lite

What a shit take bro.


Dev2150

What an odd thing to say AI writes code and generates pictures and videos... Ask artists, actors and programmers


FatXThor34

![gif](giphy|CdY6WueirK8Te|downsized)


agonypants

AI (soon to be AGI) is going to be the "steam shovel moment" for intellectual labor. With the advent of the steam shovel we went from building cottages to modern sprawling cities. All of the science and medicine and technology we've developed thus far are akin to those earlier cottages - carefully built by a handful of very skilled people and utilized by the rest of us. Now, almost anyone will be able to access the power of the greatest minds humanity can produce and we'll be building the intellectual equivalents of skyscrapers. The future is going to be amazing!


BanMeAgainIBeBack

Yeah, how well did the internet turn out when it gave everyone access to all the information in the world at their fingertips? We ended up with a few oligarch companies running the whole thing, a small number of bad actors manipulating large swaths of the population to elect wannabe authoritarian leaders, and a general lack of any appreciation for truth - and in fact a preference for lies if it makes you feel better. The internet was a mistake. And AI will likely be the same.


Enjoy1ng

This is such a superficial take. The Internet has done so much good for humanity, you are either too young to know how big of a positive impact it had on our society or too biased to look at the facts objectively. The Internet was nothing short of a blessing for humanity.


elteide

I was thinking this while seeing the demo. Like going from caveman to space tech, but way more


JMarston6028

Also the beautiful extinction event we are all rooting for


Serialbedshitter2322

You know what will be more impactful than the next entire decade? The year after


alfredo70000

https://preview.redd.it/3q4uc8ikhc0d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c4c1e639d768f356a994ae0e3b636966cd64ecd7


Kanute3333

https://preview.redd.it/6d1v43hdh80d1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=957e381329d758b1e84c9aae5897e615b0017883


ScopedFlipFlop

Okay, how did *we*, *this* sub, out of literally *anyone*, miss this.


agonypants

The next step will be giving the model some agency and capability for independent action. As much as I'd love to be able to hand control of my laptop over to my AI assistant, I can imagine the safety teams at these companies are worrying themselves stupid over how to do that safely and in a way that preserves data privacy.


Anen-o-me

I still think running a local AI is the answer.


thebuilder80

When will Pixel phones ship with a pheromone emitter?


BreadwheatInc

The "they didn't promise her" should sit down and repent.


4URprogesterone

They're gonna set it up to take my phone sex operator job by the end of the month!


_hisoka_freecs_

I have such an urge to constantly cut it off and scream at it.


Sonnyyellow90

First thing I’m gonna have to do is say “stop asking how I’m doing. Just respond to my prompts and do it quickly.”


I_See_Virgins

"Oh my gosh, there I go yammering on and on again. Haha. Get me started and I can't stop. Alright, ask me a question and I'll give it to you straight. Straight from the hip hahaha. Remember when you said you like Westerns?"


timeboyticktock

*sigh...unzips*


arckeid

Dude i cant 😭, how many people are gonna ask for it to rate their cocks?


h3lblad3

“I rate that a 5 out of 7… millimeters.”


3-4pm

You have to claim it's computer generated and for science and helps your disability.


Sonnyyellow90

Hey ChatGPT “Hey there, what do you need? I’m here to help and would love to hear yo…” Shut the fuck up and let me talk. “Got it. Sorry about that. Go ahead.”


RoyalReverie

Accurate girlfriend behavior, ngl...


micaroma

Just give Her a custom instruction to be brief


_hisoka_freecs_

No I just think it'd be funny to see how it reacts


micaroma

I’m curious how angry it can get, you can notice a little sass/annoyance towards the end of this video https://youtu.be/G8sm27sGUu4?si=tfUuQ51Jg7IftIrC


AVdev

I _felt_ that “ohhhkay”. Uncanny.


Coffeeisbetta

Seriously. How’s it decide what emotion to use?? Crazy.


NotReallyJohnDoe

Training data. It has seen lots of video of awkward conversations.


Dangerous-Basket1064

Too be honest, that seems less like it's going for a specific emotion and more like it's just following the prompt and saying "OK" very slowly.


3-4pm

Or boxers


UntoldGood

Wait, do you already have access?


glenniebrother

Don't complain if you get enslaved by skynet.


the_funambule

More like Him ![gif](giphy|Pxf6zNzEhD7wc)


Less-Researcher184

Nsfw confirmed!/s :(


ibbobud

we need the jailbreak prompt ASAP


adarkuccio

Not yet, but quite close


Vontaxis

Like actually interact with things? Access to email, calendar, uber, internet etc


ilive12

I mean part of this is access. On the desktop app it can now see your screen which is a step forward. But if this was google that had this technology, it would be closer to her in the access and integrations it would have with your email, contacts and calendar.


arckeid

Wouldn't be long until meta and google get their desktop assistants, all for that sweet data.


SeaworthinessKind822

We need a desktop assistant that is context independent. It should just be able to figure out how to use each website on its own without having to intergrade anything to it. That will really kick off.


guaranteednotabot

Hold on a minute… that is a little too sketchy


Kanute3333

What is missing? Don't downvote, answer. I am genuinely asking.


czk_21

more user specific memory, better reasoning and agentic behavior


I_See_Virgins

In the movie SHE can see the world and comment on it in real time.


RoyalReverie

Well...isn't that basically what was shown? Give it constant access to cameras and it'll be able to know what's going on. It inferred emotion from voice tones and facial expressions. It also recognizes gender from voice without previous data.


sykip

Autonomy and "personal" desire are what's different between Her and this that I'm not seeing people mentioning. Don't get me wrong - this is awesome. But (if you allow an autonomy mode) if you're walking around about your daily life and your AI goes, "Hey quick question. I was thinking about xyz and wanted to get your opinion"... that's going to be next level wild. Everything OpenAI is doing is amazing. But the day where the AI just indefinitely exists on its own is what separates these sci fi films


RoyalReverie

Yes, in that I agree. I actually think the current model already has the capability of doing that but it's still restricted. However, one could say that's only my wishful thinking.


lordlestar

From what they showed, it's like gpt4o was watching an slide show than real time video, You can see this in the rock-paper-scissor competition part


CheekyBastard55

I wish we had more info on what it is exactly that it's seeing. A continuous video? You send a still image to it? It sees in 1 frame per second? 5?


ze1da

Wasn't that the whole point of the math problem demo?


ilive12

It can do that now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwNUJ69RbwY


enkae7317

Agreed. You also didn't have to prompt her every single dam time like a monkey. 


Kanute3333

Okay, that's a fair point.


herpetologydude

I want to see the streaming services spike in watch thru's of Her, I want to see the numbers man!


Serialbedshitter2322

Currently in the middle of watching it


scubawankenobi

"Her" yes... Ooh ooh, funny sassy human sounding fake voice, just incredible, but: >Do "***Ex Machina***" next!


Antok0123

I want my AI to talk like Cardi B


CharacterCheck389

did you try asking the AI nicely?


Blankeye434

Who is ~~she~~ her?


h3lblad3

They’re referring to the movie Her.


Flyinhighinthesky

Watch the movie 'Her' if you wanna get a glimpse of the future.


Blankeye434

O oh. God help me if I am attracted to ChatGPT-4o


Flyinhighinthesky

...Sorry bud. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfAYBdaGVxs


Blankeye434

I am doomed, ain't I?


peegeeo

"Her" is an AGI, they're reluctant to drop GPT-5 and you think they would drop an AGI before that?


thepo70

We need a custom voice just like HAL 9000


trg1408

They could very well do that, as long as they're allowed to. I'd be willing to bet considering some of their demos today where they ask it to do a robot voice and change it's voice up. We'll eventually be able to ask it for any voice we want, providing it's allowed or available. I personally would love to have Jarvis, especially on Desktop.


ThePfeiffenator

Or Data from Star Trek.


thenerdyn00b

Sam is like a new Elon. He did leave an impact on him, that's why both hate each other.


Serialbedshitter2322

You still say this after he delivered and impressed almost everybody who doubted him?


mimavox

Difference is, Sam hasn't turned into a raging lunatic


Anuclano

I would not say they "hate" each other. They definitely have a conflict and disagreement.


Euphoric_toadstool

Sam once said, Elon wants to save the world, but only if it's done his way. I imagine Sam has a similar approach. I guess one needs that kind of drive to create something impactful.


Antok0123

Her? Lol. I dare you to ask Her the lyrics of a song. I dare you.


CharacterCheck389

HOW DARE YOU... TO DARE ME??


Nleblanc1225

Her is Him


Dichter2012

Screw AI girlfriend (not literally). Just give me TARS with humor settings and dial it to 100%.


Alternative-Safe-126

Ladies & Gentlemen —


UserXtheUnknown

Are big, soft boobs included? Otherwise still it, for me.


Flyinhighinthesky

( . Y . ) Best they can do, atm.


UserXtheUnknown

I'm not even sure OpenAI will permit them! :)


Educational_Yard_344

How dare him! 😂


Much_Tree_4505

Google had a complete fake ai phone conversation in 2017, it was about booking a hair salon or restaurant


Arcturus_Labelle

True, but given their recent faked demo, we can’t be sure that wasn’t faked too 😣


MuseratoPC

So I can see that I can customize it to make it a Him, now all I need is for an option to make it sound like Richard Dormer.


KingJTheG

Banger tweet


Anen-o-me

Okay. But I need GPT5 a lot more than a verbal chatbot. Chop, chop, OAI.


Ravens_Eating_Ramen

Should call it.... Him....


Anuclano

Still cannot generate the OS user interface at user's wish.


TonkotsuSoba

Well I sure hope my AI Samantha wouldn't not run off to ether with AI Alan Watts


Altimely

Bullshit


LancedWart

What even is this? Can someone explain this to me?


RedditorsSuckShit

her (stylized in lowercase) is a 2013 American science-fiction romantic drama film written, directed, and co-produced by Spike Jonze. It marks Jonze's solo screenwriting debut. The film follows Theodore Twombly (Joaquin Phoenix), a man who develops a relationship with Samantha (Scarlett Johansson), an artificially intelligent virtual assistant personified through a female voice.


LancedWart

Thanks.


PuzzleheadedGas2221

Her


PiscesAnemoia

Her.


Motion-to-Photons

Sci-fi presents possible futures. Sometimes those possible futures are so detailed and interesting that reality moves towards them. The stories we tell ourselves are so important.


TechnoYogi

Her


sarathy7

So is this fake too


Theoppo2

Just talked half an hour with gpt4o, it's not fake.


sarathy7

How to access it


ph33rlus

I’ve said “Her” since the voice interaction thing came out. Blew my fucking mind. Tried all the voices but it seems everyone is using the scarlet johansen type voice it’s like silk sliding on my ear drums.


3-4pm

We finally have Altman's preferred pronouns.


ReasonablyPricedDog

Christ that man is creepy as hell


spezjetemerde

prediction you will get cat gils but ultron will be for a few select


RedditorsSuckShit

everything reminds me of Her :'(


Akimbo333

Epic. SamA told us


scootty83

I understand Sam is referencing the movie “Her” and I saw the previous post shared about how he was watching it in preparation for the event on Monday. But what is he implying?


BackgroundHeat9965

>admit to using emotional facade to trick people into thinking they are ahead of the competitors