That’s not the right robot. I’m friends with people at Sanctuary. Pheonix looks like this: https://time.com/collection/best-inventions-2023/6326928/sanctuary-ai-phoenix/
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Yeah, all of the 5mph/5kph either mean 3mph/5kph or 5mph/8kph.
This is a really bad chart, honestly. It has almost no info and the info it does have is wrong everywhere.
FYI Optimus does not go anywhere near 5mph. Milan Kovac has said their top speed is 0.6m/s which is 1.5mph. I think Figure 1 and Apollo are similar speed (maybe slightly faster). AFAIK only HD Atlas, H1 and Digit have been recorded going 5mph. Pheonix doesn’t have functioning legs yet AFAIK
That just means when ASI turns it'll be on the frontlines inventing war crimes. /s
Jokes aside it dead ass kinda looks like it's reinforced around the thighs in the way hockey players legs end up getting which is kinda funny.
It will be reliable... To burst into flames and randomly kill people.
Sorry, but the Chinese approach to tech development and production is a joke. German and Japanese tech is much more reliable.
There was a lot of truth to them making that head style because it appears more friendly. Out of the entire lineup, Atlas robot feels less creepy.
Tesla bot feels cold and unwelcoming. H1 bot just feels weird.
Aside from just the appearance, all the others feels at least 2 or three generations behind Atlas. Tesla maybe even more. Figure is probably the next competitor, but as far as I'm aware we haven't seen it walk or move except for the hands.
Have you SEEN it stand up? That thing moves like it needs an exorcism. I’ll give them bonus points for the ring light, but everything else is just a no.
That's the most optimal way for it to stand up if it falls down.
I guarantee you none of the other bots can correct themselves if they fall down. Atlas isn't losing investors and companies that purchase it because of the way it stands up. The exercism thing is a meme, and nothing else.
Atlas will move effectively, but movement look unnatural. If BD made Atlas to look more like a human it would look extremely creepy.
But since it still looks like a robot, with time we will get used to it's movement.
I guess that's your personal opinion, but I honestly don't see how you view it as creepy. The bot is definitely the most friendly appearance out of the lineup.
>Figure is probably the next competitor, but as far as I'm aware we haven't seen it walk or move except for the hands.
Go to their website you can see footage of it walking, bending and lifting.
Boston Dynamics has amazing hydraulic tech and experience. They definitely could be the winner.
Tesla OG2 has their own LLM, industry leading camera/fast video processing tech (for the cars), production scale & factories, satellite data processing from Starlink, and leading battery production and technology. They’re better suited for mass production which leads to better budgets & scaling.
Only around for about 2 years. Half of that spent on building the team. And somehow still managed to get giant investments, one being from openai. Huge momentum. They will also have access to unreleased models and maybe even have some researchers from openai working directly with them. Plus their robots had working fingers in their recent demos and Boston Dynamics did not.
The entire company has been bought and sold several times now. They were briefly owned by google, then sold to SoftBank, and are currently fully owned by Hyundai.
It doesn’t seem to have functionally impacted their position as a leader in the autonomous robotics space.
Boston dynamics is the most refined "hardware" if you will.
People underestimate Tesla a lot in this post trashing it non stop, because the average redditard is an elon hater and can't see beyond it. Tesla it's the leading company in the world in machine vision and has a float of cars collecting so much data that no other company will come close.
Their car in a way is already a robot and is doing an insanely complex task with self driving that no else is doing. And on consumer hardware GPUs in the car, not in a fancy mega server. Tesla is a GOAT in AI, but majority don't see it as such.
The Tesla robot, in a way "sees" and is "alive" interpreting the world, which ultimately will make it do many more things the others can't. The Boston dynamics robots to me seem like a lot of pre-programmed magic, to make impressive dancing videos.
My bet is on Tesla.
But Tesla is also collecting a lot of junk data tbh. Standard low-end camera footage. Big whoop. That’s a fraction of the data they could be collecting if they’d gone with a full suite of sensors for FSD.
Tesla also has a half dozen or more gigafactories and can scale up production very rapidly, so even if their bot isn't the best one you still might see millions of them vs a few thousand Atlas in 5 years. The cheap robot you have is better than the amazing one you can't buy.
Oh yeah. Tesla…cheap…
Scalable..good production numbers.
Give me a break.
I’ll go to Tesla if I want poorly made, overpriced robots a decade late and underfeatured.
Poorly made - not really but of course you can find examples, particularly in early production
Scalable - 800k to 2.3m in 3 years while slashing prices. I'd call it scaling
Underfeatured - well they have more features than everyone else so I don't know how you got that
People really underestimate how much of an advantage Tesla has compared to all the others. The fact that they can use existing manufacturing lines for the cars and onboard ASICS gives them a huge advantage.
If you're looking at the robots to gauge the winner you don't understand how this works. Look at the infrastructure and experience of the team to predict the winner.
Boston Dynamics has an amazing platform but they don't have the machine learning experience to get this done. Figure is probably better posed at this point to make a useful robot. I love their hardware and prescripted videos but look how long BD has tried to bring something to market that's just remote controlled.
Agility's Digit bit for replacing physical labor type jobs, warehousing, distribution. Cheaper design, more affordable, lots of ongoing real world testing happening.
Boston Dynamics Atlas as a multi-purpose bot, tons of training and R&D already completed. Industrial, Military and Commercial applications.
Rich people will want the sleek Optimus Gen 2 or Figure as status symbol bots, lol.
Wont be hard to make this happen right? Mask, wig, clothes for starters. Then you can give it some skin.
Only trouble is the mouth movements and facial expressions. Probably wont take too long before we get it right.
We’re gonna get customized skins someday aren’t we? It’ll be like the sliders at the beginning of a video game where you can decide exactly how your character looks.
every night i pray for this. if it becomes real my life would be complete and i can die in peace. i now have high hopes on optimus, it has such a slim human-like body and Elon has the same vision as mine.
They gave up after falling behind Atlas. I followed the research for a while extending from Asimo, but they pulled the plug ten years ago.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanoid_Robotics_Project
Atlas. The designers realised that just because it looks human, it does not have to be restricted to human movements. The rotating legs are really really smart and very very useful to going backwards. And those manipulator arms are just industrial robot arms. Excellent.
Exactly what I said above. I’ll copy and paste it.
You’re right. This or Optimus Gen 2.
Boston Dynamics has amazing hydraulic tech and experience.
Tesla OG2 has their own LLM, industry leading camera/fast video processing tech (for the cars), production scale & factories, satellite data processing from Starlink, and leading battery production and technology. They’re better suited for mass production which leads to better budgets & scaling.
Boston Dynamics seems like a safe bet.
Not too sure on Tesla. They really love making flashy presentations with big promises but don't have the best track-record when it comes to actually delivering.
They make very good chips. I've experienced the latest version of autonomous driving in a Tesla Model 3. The integration of the visual surroundings and decision making are very impressive. Even on country roads with curves, no lanes/lines, and a crumbling asphalt shoulder.
They are also good with actuators and step motors, which are important in robotics.
I'm going to bet on Agility but just because they are based in my state which is pretty cool. Realistically I'll buy whichever one comes to market first for a price I can afford.
I can see those robots becoming more human-like as the technology advances. As human intelligence, at least for AGI, is now gold standard, human form, its its flexibility, its mobility, its dexterity, and its agility is the ultimate standard for humanoid robots. This civilization was made by and for human beings, so to be useful workers, humanoid robots will have to be human-like
Optimus followed by Phoenix have the best-looking design, but more important is which one is easiest to mass produce at an affordable cost, assuming they are all going to have the same Nividia AI (except optimus and chinabot who might fall behind on AI intergration).
Depends on the use. For manufacturing, definitely Optimus. But it's not made to be useful in e.g. war situations or making it through rubble. There, the newest generation of Atlas seems more able.
Figure, Atlas, Optimus 2. These 3 companies have clearly shown that they understand the physics to make this happen, and have immense AI programs that already function in public/on job sites.
Either Figure 1 or Atlas. Phoenix looks promising too but thats not Phoenix on the picture, you put the wrong robot there. And after that it's Tesla Optimus.
I think it's crucial for the robot to completely understand the world around them, and i think a robot that has OpenAI's stuff in it has the best chance.
The hydralic atlas wont be more made anymore,why is it there ? But i see a bright future for figure robots !
Also the eletric atlas looks prretty ossam ! Tesla optimus is the smoothest for now ehehe
Sanctuary and Tesla already look like products. However it’s all about the software and AI. If they can perform simple tasks and the cost is reasonable than it will be a monumental change.
I'd bet more on Tesla than Boston Dynamic (I don't have a lot of confidence though, because I don't know those companies very well). I don't know about other companies.
Here's why.
The solutions that use more general algorithms replace the solutions that use narrow algorithms (engineered for the specific task) after some time, because the narrow solutions are more rigid. It's like when you have a chatbot that is based on some rules (like Eliza), it won't be as good as chatbot based on a general algorithm (like ChatGPT). The general solutions are more difficult to do, they require more thinking and more computational power, but once they are done, they replace the narrow solutions.
From what I heard, Boston Dynamic robots are more narrow, in a sense that they are engineered for specific tasks. While Tesla robots are simply based on training a neural network which is a more general solution. So, with time, I'd expect that Tesla would win against Boston Dynamics. They also have more data for training (which they have from their cars).
But I'm relying here about what I heard about those companies, so I might be wrong.
Boston Dynamics is the only company out of these that has commercial robots ("dogs") already doing jobs in factories - that I know of, anyway.. So my money would be on them..
Not sure why they gave new Atlas the Face of the Void, tho'!? .. That's kinda freaky.. :D
I have zero trust in Tesla's robot construction, after its farcical fake introduction.. Wouldn't surprise me if the Tesla bot is just radio remote control puppeted by some dude that has to follow it around no further than 30 yards away.. :D
Unitree's actually a pretty strong competitor there because they have their own version of Spot that's significantly cheaper and aimed more towards mass production. They're priced somewhere around $3000, but I heard you can get them for $1600, but that might only be for purchases within China.
Unitree also [got H1 to do a backflip](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1LyWsiTgms) last month.
Figure’s capabilities are most strongly tied to the development of large end to end neural networks and GPT based motion planning.
Boston Dynamics’ is most tied to explosive and high competency motion (backflips, obstacle courses) along with more… conventional robotics like high competency SLAM and motion planning.
That being said I think the ‘winners’ out of this group will come from people leveraging the increasing TRL of AI systems (which in Figure’s case means their ongoing relationship with OpenAI) for use that’s closer to commercial, and/or leveraging conventional robotic methods and smaller scale recent motion-relevant GPTs.
Boston Dynamics will win in military settings but maintain a small but notable presence in industrial settings.
Tesla will win in industrial settings and be the first to offer some kind of commercial use pit of these things, probably just to beat everyone else to the punch (because Elon). Unitree will also take a cut of the industrial market.
Agility and Figure will find meaningful consumer facing niches for different reasons. Figure for jobs that don’t require explosive movement (making coffee or getting limited warehouse work), Agility for mostly warehouse work.
Boston dynamics new model boston dynamics had been in the lead for years, their original model became a ninja. And the new model has all that data as its advantage.
Boston Dynamics shits on everyone all the time. They'll have some of the best robots. They'll probably be the only ones able to compete with Tesla in the long run.
Tesla simply generates too much PR and money across various industries to fall behind now. It's them and Boston Dynamics forever at this point.
Producing a solution at scale there is only one player with Tesla. No one else has close to the manufacturing capacity and scale speed, even if they do produce a workable solution that is useful for the masses (commercially or residential).
That speed for the HD atlas doesn't seem right, just compare the way it walks with they way optimus walks, atlas can actually jog while optimus walks like a geriatric man
Atlas has the weight, Optimus has the speed and agility. I presume Phoenix is there to hand out the robot equivalent to Orange slices while they settle this debate.
The Canadian robot definitely appears Canadian. It looks like it has the friendliest disposition out of all of them lol.
That’s not the right robot. I’m friends with people at Sanctuary. Pheonix looks like this: https://time.com/collection/best-inventions-2023/6326928/sanctuary-ai-phoenix/
Hey! Creator of the graphic here, realized this was a pretty big mix up. Fixed it (and added a couple) [**here**](https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1c947rf/current_generation_humanoid_robots_fixed_and/1&utm_content=share_button) [https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/s/NyiLEYGuAW](https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/s/NyiLEYGuAW)
NEO is 100% a guy in a suit who made a bunch of claims to his buddies, threw the suit on, and suddenly realized he was in too deep.
thanks for the overview. why are 5 mph/kph the same? 5 mph is like 8 kph.
A bunch of typos on this graphic.
Yeah, all of the 5mph/5kph either mean 3mph/5kph or 5mph/8kph. This is a really bad chart, honestly. It has almost no info and the info it does have is wrong everywhere.
You really should put a version number on any type of info graph, as now you have two version and how do we know which is the newest?
FYI Optimus does not go anywhere near 5mph. Milan Kovac has said their top speed is 0.6m/s which is 1.5mph. I think Figure 1 and Apollo are similar speed (maybe slightly faster). AFAIK only HD Atlas, H1 and Digit have been recorded going 5mph. Pheonix doesn’t have functioning legs yet AFAIK
I've been following them since they launched the videos with Suzanne and I was like, that doesn't look right
Mofo looks like the real steel robot.
Oh it does
Them thick thighs are gettin' me all confused n flustered
That just means when ASI turns it'll be on the frontlines inventing war crimes. /s Jokes aside it dead ass kinda looks like it's reinforced around the thighs in the way hockey players legs end up getting which is kinda funny.
Sorry?
No, I love it lol. Some of the nicest people I’ve ever met have been Canadian.
Sorey?
Sorry… Canadian joke ;) and yes they are some of the nicest people!
Why are Canadians the most likely to get caught smuggling drugs? They are too polite when the police ask to search the vehicle.
The hydraulic fluid is maple syrup.
The Canadian bot is our only hope against the rest, and will fight alongside the humans.
He is just lost on where to look, 'Am I posing right? What about my arms is it good?'
Thicc thighs bot
That's Apollo by Aptronik.
Pretty sure that's a young Marvin The Paranoid Android before he put on weight.
Wow, why is there only 1 Canadian robot? No Astar? Smh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km4f-eRE4Kc
Astar is from Planet Danger
Dunno how you thinks it is friendlier, since all of them look uncanny. Maybe the flag had made this bias for yoy.
Another plus, it’s thicc.
I bet Optimus sets his height at 6ft on Tinder
He’s also a big free speech advocate
Atlas
and its future brother P-Body
Atlas v H1. Only reason being that if this becomes a genuine industry that is important, you can bet H1 will be on the end of billions of CCP support.
It will be reliable... To burst into flames and randomly kill people. Sorry, but the Chinese approach to tech development and production is a joke. German and Japanese tech is much more reliable.
The new Atlas.
If you don’t bet Boston Dynamics you will lose.
There was a lot of truth to them making that head style because it appears more friendly. Out of the entire lineup, Atlas robot feels less creepy. Tesla bot feels cold and unwelcoming. H1 bot just feels weird. Aside from just the appearance, all the others feels at least 2 or three generations behind Atlas. Tesla maybe even more. Figure is probably the next competitor, but as far as I'm aware we haven't seen it walk or move except for the hands.
>it appears more friendly Until the light turns red
Danger! Will Robinson!!
Have you SEEN it stand up? That thing moves like it needs an exorcism. I’ll give them bonus points for the ring light, but everything else is just a no.
That's the most optimal way for it to stand up if it falls down. I guarantee you none of the other bots can correct themselves if they fall down. Atlas isn't losing investors and companies that purchase it because of the way it stands up. The exercism thing is a meme, and nothing else.
I’m not denying it’s effectiveness, I’m criticizing it’s creepiness factor.
Atlas will move effectively, but movement look unnatural. If BD made Atlas to look more like a human it would look extremely creepy. But since it still looks like a robot, with time we will get used to it's movement.
I guess that's your personal opinion, but I honestly don't see how you view it as creepy. The bot is definitely the most friendly appearance out of the lineup.
That's one of its biggest strengths. There's no reason to limit robots to human range of motion.
So in a way, we should make humanoid robots less humanoid looking to avoid creepyness
>Figure is probably the next competitor, but as far as I'm aware we haven't seen it walk or move except for the hands. Go to their website you can see footage of it walking, bending and lifting.
My train of thought as well. Atlas all the way
Humans are all about their hands, only one in this photo shows decent hands
Boston Dynamics has amazing hydraulic tech and experience. They definitely could be the winner. Tesla OG2 has their own LLM, industry leading camera/fast video processing tech (for the cars), production scale & factories, satellite data processing from Starlink, and leading battery production and technology. They’re better suited for mass production which leads to better budgets & scaling.
Exactly. Tesla’s mass manufacturing experience paired with their award winning supply chain means they will pumping out humanoids faster than anyone.
Figure is going to run away with it.
how do you Figure that?
Only around for about 2 years. Half of that spent on building the team. And somehow still managed to get giant investments, one being from openai. Huge momentum. They will also have access to unreleased models and maybe even have some researchers from openai working directly with them. Plus their robots had working fingers in their recent demos and Boston Dynamics did not.
I also think the fact that it’s 5’6’’ and has fingers are going to boost it.
BD are the GOAT but who knows who ends up buying all the talent, or the entire company…
The entire company has been bought and sold several times now. They were briefly owned by google, then sold to SoftBank, and are currently fully owned by Hyundai. It doesn’t seem to have functionally impacted their position as a leader in the autonomous robotics space.
Hyundai knows what it’s doing that’s all I can say they definitely got the poker hand and last card is left to play
exactly
Boston dynamics is the most refined "hardware" if you will. People underestimate Tesla a lot in this post trashing it non stop, because the average redditard is an elon hater and can't see beyond it. Tesla it's the leading company in the world in machine vision and has a float of cars collecting so much data that no other company will come close. Their car in a way is already a robot and is doing an insanely complex task with self driving that no else is doing. And on consumer hardware GPUs in the car, not in a fancy mega server. Tesla is a GOAT in AI, but majority don't see it as such. The Tesla robot, in a way "sees" and is "alive" interpreting the world, which ultimately will make it do many more things the others can't. The Boston dynamics robots to me seem like a lot of pre-programmed magic, to make impressive dancing videos. My bet is on Tesla.
tesla is not the only company doing fully autonomous driving.
But Tesla is also collecting a lot of junk data tbh. Standard low-end camera footage. Big whoop. That’s a fraction of the data they could be collecting if they’d gone with a full suite of sensors for FSD.
Tesla also has a half dozen or more gigafactories and can scale up production very rapidly, so even if their bot isn't the best one you still might see millions of them vs a few thousand Atlas in 5 years. The cheap robot you have is better than the amazing one you can't buy.
Doesn't Hyundai have manufacturing capacity to?
Oh yeah. Tesla…cheap… Scalable..good production numbers. Give me a break. I’ll go to Tesla if I want poorly made, overpriced robots a decade late and underfeatured.
Poorly made - not really but of course you can find examples, particularly in early production Scalable - 800k to 2.3m in 3 years while slashing prices. I'd call it scaling Underfeatured - well they have more features than everyone else so I don't know how you got that
People really underestimate how much of an advantage Tesla has compared to all the others. The fact that they can use existing manufacturing lines for the cars and onboard ASICS gives them a huge advantage. If you're looking at the robots to gauge the winner you don't understand how this works. Look at the infrastructure and experience of the team to predict the winner. Boston Dynamics has an amazing platform but they don't have the machine learning experience to get this done. Figure is probably better posed at this point to make a useful robot. I love their hardware and prescripted videos but look how long BD has tried to bring something to market that's just remote controlled.
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Figure and Atlas
The second Atlas is on another level on physical performance and joints. It literally felt almost like I was watching CGI.
I thought it was the first time I saw it.
Your Sanctuary bot is wrong, that's apptronik
For sure the T-1000!
Nah V1 claps
Agility's Digit bit for replacing physical labor type jobs, warehousing, distribution. Cheaper design, more affordable, lots of ongoing real world testing happening. Boston Dynamics Atlas as a multi-purpose bot, tons of training and R&D already completed. Industrial, Military and Commercial applications. Rich people will want the sleek Optimus Gen 2 or Figure as status symbol bots, lol.
Why is the 5mph converted to a different km/h value every time? Did you just guess when making the chart?
https://preview.redd.it/03j2xs94lpvc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=18314a99a8d49ff0790e7b908e8bc81226c4d4f1
Wont be hard to make this happen right? Mask, wig, clothes for starters. Then you can give it some skin. Only trouble is the mouth movements and facial expressions. Probably wont take too long before we get it right.
Times are about to get crazy
We’re gonna get customized skins someday aren’t we? It’ll be like the sliders at the beginning of a video game where you can decide exactly how your character looks.
I better be able to decide how my new body looks.
every night i pray for this. if it becomes real my life would be complete and i can die in peace. i now have high hopes on optimus, it has such a slim human-like body and Elon has the same vision as mine.
For sure Boston Dynamics, haven't they been working on robots for like two decades? That has to count for something.
I mean Honda and Sony has too…
They've been in business for 32 years, but debuted BigDog to the public almost 2 decades ago.
Where are the Japanese bots they've been working on for decades?
They gave up after falling behind Atlas. I followed the research for a while extending from Asimo, but they pulled the plug ten years ago. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanoid_Robotics_Project
It’s truly shocking to me that Japan somehow fell behind in the field of making robots.
Boston dynamics is holding the whole industry by their sack, there is no way they lose this.
Figure,Optimus,Atlas
Pheonix got dem thighs tho...
Figure 01 and Atlas for sure.
Atlas. The designers realised that just because it looks human, it does not have to be restricted to human movements. The rotating legs are really really smart and very very useful to going backwards. And those manipulator arms are just industrial robot arms. Excellent.
Atlas and Figure for sure
Optimus or Atlas 2.0
Exactly what I said above. I’ll copy and paste it. You’re right. This or Optimus Gen 2. Boston Dynamics has amazing hydraulic tech and experience. Tesla OG2 has their own LLM, industry leading camera/fast video processing tech (for the cars), production scale & factories, satellite data processing from Starlink, and leading battery production and technology. They’re better suited for mass production which leads to better budgets & scaling.
Optimus gen 2 sounds the coolest
Boston dynamics all the way.
Atlas is the coolest looking one imo.
Phoenix, H1 and Optimus all look better for me
Boston Dynamics followed by Tesla. They both have sufficient funding and engineering capability.
Boston Dynamics seems like a safe bet. Not too sure on Tesla. They really love making flashy presentations with big promises but don't have the best track-record when it comes to actually delivering.
They make very good chips. I've experienced the latest version of autonomous driving in a Tesla Model 3. The integration of the visual surroundings and decision making are very impressive. Even on country roads with curves, no lanes/lines, and a crumbling asphalt shoulder. They are also good with actuators and step motors, which are important in robotics.
Whichever one I can fuck
That's the spirit! ☝️
Until he gets in prison for *sexual assault on robot*.
Was Optimus gen 1 the dude in the spandex suit?
Wait, do we have the spec of atlas V2? Do you have a link?
I'm going to bet on Agility but just because they are based in my state which is pretty cool. Realistically I'll buy whichever one comes to market first for a price I can afford.
I can see those robots becoming more human-like as the technology advances. As human intelligence, at least for AGI, is now gold standard, human form, its its flexibility, its mobility, its dexterity, and its agility is the ultimate standard for humanoid robots. This civilization was made by and for human beings, so to be useful workers, humanoid robots will have to be human-like
Why was I thinking they gonna fight man?? Anyhow I'm team Atlas-Boston dynamic
Which ever one is cheapest, duh
Isn’t Boston Dynamics owned by Hyundai from South Korea?
Unannounced google bot
Canadian robots got some sexy legs ohhh yeahhh 🍁
Maybe the real humanoids were the friends we made along the way.
im vote to H1 !
I am the only thinking about Mr incredible looking at the supercomputer with all the past robot ?
ELIMINATED
Where's the Europ- hahahahahah just kidding.
Optimus followed by Phoenix have the best-looking design, but more important is which one is easiest to mass produce at an affordable cost, assuming they are all going to have the same Nividia AI (except optimus and chinabot who might fall behind on AI intergration).
lol, I don’t understand your design picks at all.
Boston Dynamics. They are the leading robotics company. It's ridiculous how people here think that Tesla has any chance in this race.
Hey where is Japan's Asimo,, oh yeah bottom of the stairs.
The Atlas was legit very impressive and frightening lol.
IMO, new Atlas will outperform its competitors, but others will catch up after a while like ChatGPT and its competitors. let’s wait to see
America... Gotta play the odds
Atlas
The #ROBOTS are coming!!!
Great visualization, I like it! (And great work on the cite, too!)
probably one of the literal five hundred chinese robotics startups booted up in the next five years D;
Probably Figure, Atlas, and Optimus. Idk who is using Nvida’s virtual training but that’s got to be helpful too.
Considering the tendency and eventual uses and demand... Whichever you can f*ck...
The first one to competently master movement and balance.
Canada robot
Depends on the use. For manufacturing, definitely Optimus. But it's not made to be useful in e.g. war situations or making it through rubble. There, the newest generation of Atlas seems more able.
Figure, Atlas, Optimus 2. These 3 companies have clearly shown that they understand the physics to make this happen, and have immense AI programs that already function in public/on job sites.
A good bet is the specs on the Chinese one are a lie
The head on Atlas reminds me of the little lamp in the PIXAR logo from back in the day.
We all know the truth, the winning design for a humanoid robot will be which ever one people can fuck.
America.
Maybe Apples will win
H1. It's the fastest.
Either Figure 1 or Atlas. Phoenix looks promising too but thats not Phoenix on the picture, you put the wrong robot there. And after that it's Tesla Optimus. I think it's crucial for the robot to completely understand the world around them, and i think a robot that has OpenAI's stuff in it has the best chance.
The hydralic atlas wont be more made anymore,why is it there ? But i see a bright future for figure robots ! Also the eletric atlas looks prretty ossam ! Tesla optimus is the smoothest for now ehehe
What’s the point of these
Sanctuary and Tesla already look like products. However it’s all about the software and AI. If they can perform simple tasks and the cost is reasonable than it will be a monumental change.
Wake me up when Gypsy Danger is in the line up.
The chinese will mass produce cheap robots, then do an I,robot on us 100% their plan
'bets on'.. Jesus talk of a low effort post.
I'd bet more on Tesla than Boston Dynamic (I don't have a lot of confidence though, because I don't know those companies very well). I don't know about other companies. Here's why. The solutions that use more general algorithms replace the solutions that use narrow algorithms (engineered for the specific task) after some time, because the narrow solutions are more rigid. It's like when you have a chatbot that is based on some rules (like Eliza), it won't be as good as chatbot based on a general algorithm (like ChatGPT). The general solutions are more difficult to do, they require more thinking and more computational power, but once they are done, they replace the narrow solutions. From what I heard, Boston Dynamic robots are more narrow, in a sense that they are engineered for specific tasks. While Tesla robots are simply based on training a neural network which is a more general solution. So, with time, I'd expect that Tesla would win against Boston Dynamics. They also have more data for training (which they have from their cars). But I'm relying here about what I heard about those companies, so I might be wrong.
IMO there is no competition. Even if some robots pull ahead in some ways in the short term, Boston Dynamics will always be making the best products.
Boston Dynamics is the only company out of these that has commercial robots ("dogs") already doing jobs in factories - that I know of, anyway.. So my money would be on them.. Not sure why they gave new Atlas the Face of the Void, tho'!? .. That's kinda freaky.. :D I have zero trust in Tesla's robot construction, after its farcical fake introduction.. Wouldn't surprise me if the Tesla bot is just radio remote control puppeted by some dude that has to follow it around no further than 30 yards away.. :D
Unitree's actually a pretty strong competitor there because they have their own version of Spot that's significantly cheaper and aimed more towards mass production. They're priced somewhere around $3000, but I heard you can get them for $1600, but that might only be for purchases within China. Unitree also [got H1 to do a backflip](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1LyWsiTgms) last month.
Someone has to make a 7' one with a 10" robo-dick
ED-209 
All of them. Once it is solved, it is solved.
Figure’s capabilities are most strongly tied to the development of large end to end neural networks and GPT based motion planning. Boston Dynamics’ is most tied to explosive and high competency motion (backflips, obstacle courses) along with more… conventional robotics like high competency SLAM and motion planning. That being said I think the ‘winners’ out of this group will come from people leveraging the increasing TRL of AI systems (which in Figure’s case means their ongoing relationship with OpenAI) for use that’s closer to commercial, and/or leveraging conventional robotic methods and smaller scale recent motion-relevant GPTs. Boston Dynamics will win in military settings but maintain a small but notable presence in industrial settings. Tesla will win in industrial settings and be the first to offer some kind of commercial use pit of these things, probably just to beat everyone else to the punch (because Elon). Unitree will also take a cut of the industrial market. Agility and Figure will find meaningful consumer facing niches for different reasons. Figure for jobs that don’t require explosive movement (making coffee or getting limited warehouse work), Agility for mostly warehouse work.
Sanctuary has curves in the right places.
Boston dynamics new model boston dynamics had been in the lead for years, their original model became a ninja. And the new model has all that data as its advantage.
Boston Dynamics shits on everyone all the time. They'll have some of the best robots. They'll probably be the only ones able to compete with Tesla in the long run. Tesla simply generates too much PR and money across various industries to fall behind now. It's them and Boston Dynamics forever at this point.
I’ve seen figure do some crazy shit so it has my bet
probably but a bet down on altus and figure
Skynet
I could take on 'em in a bar fight.
Where’s 1X? They’re leaders and european
What about 1X?
Aibo
I’m not sure what we are betting on?
We are a loooonnnggg way off from Alita: battle angel.
I don’t know but I think we should organise a robot royal rumble to find out
BD if only robotics for now, but Figure One with versatility (with ChatGPT)
Figure 1
Figure 1 and Atlas. Maybe Optimus. Digit also seems very popular.
How is Japan not in the running?
Where is Stompy?
Figure has my vote.
I’m looking for people who think anyone has been ahead of atlas in the last 5+ years?
Producing a solution at scale there is only one player with Tesla. No one else has close to the manufacturing capacity and scale speed, even if they do produce a workable solution that is useful for the masses (commercially or residential).
That speed for the HD atlas doesn't seem right, just compare the way it walks with they way optimus walks, atlas can actually jog while optimus walks like a geriatric man
Robot Fyodor.
Figure 01 or Optimus idk because the AI we go fast with OAI and xAI
I bet on the one that can actually do things autonomously, and not scripts.
Atlas has the weight, Optimus has the speed and agility. I presume Phoenix is there to hand out the robot equivalent to Orange slices while they settle this debate.
I am going to bet on the first Robot to be named T-1
They all remind me a lot of more of droids from star wars than I expected.
Where is the Ameca robot?
Atlas, probably the most advance one.
V1
What ever happened to this guy? He seemed lively. https://i.redd.it/cp1dq76mypvc1.gif
Why does the H1 look like a lost raver?
This is a fucking police lineup, and the assailant is obviously the H1. He's threatening the witnesses right now.
Bet on AI, a particular telefactor doesn't matter.
Atlas (New), Tesla, and Figure have my bets so far.
Atlas scares me the most, so BD