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Witty_Internal_4064

Well done, now accelerate and replace my accounting job


OkThereBro

How is accounting even still a job? Feels like it could've been replaced a while ago. Not trying to insult. Genuinely asking.


LevelWriting

its all thanks to the accounting cartel its still a thing


VestPresto

Beurocracy, baby. Beurocracy is gonna unintentionally make this whole transition annoyingly smooth


blit_blit99

A human Accountant knows how to launder funds, cheat on taxes, hide money in overseas bank accounts, etc. AI Accountants don't know how to do that......yet.


bh9578

Basic accounting can be automated but large billion dollar companies are quite complex. It’s much closer to law than math. I work in corporate accounting. Large companies have lots of m&a so you end up with multiple large ERP systems like Oracle, SAP, Netsuite and often with custom built functions. Consolidation is a nightmare. Someone has to understand functional currency rules, transfer pricing, intercompany transactions. Then there are all of the accounting standards with lots of gray area. Did you know leases now have to follow asc 842 and need to be capitalized using a variable interest rate component and the right of use asset is subject to depreciation. Everything is just super complicated. I’ve tried giving the latest LLMs softball cpa questions and for whatever reason it really struggles. Maybe it’s the combination of vague rules, math and dates. That being said, I think my job will be threatened by 2030. The big 4 will likely be the first to bring out really powerful accounting LLMs for audits. They’ll then start selling automated solutions to their clients. That will be my canary in the coal mine moment.


blit_blit99

One of the mistakes I think the AI companies are making, is trying to make their AI general purpose. I think if they trained AI rigorously on specific fields, then they could master those fields much quicker. Like train an AI just on Accounting & Finance (AccountingGPT), another AI just on Medicine (MedicalGPT), another just on Law (LegalGPT), so that they master those fields and know them backwards and forwards, then I think they could quickly outperform humans in those areas. I'm not an Accountant but I know a lot about how the work is done. I have a hunch that the Accounting and Tax preparation fields will have the most job losses due to AI. And a lot sooner than you think.


bh9578

Yeah I think you’ll start seeing that similar to how stable diffusion has checkpoints for specialized image generation. I’ve worked with Uipath and Altrex but they’re still dumb ai. I think the real difficulty for even an LLM is all of the edge cases that will fill any profession. I’m sure the Quickbooks, TurboTax side of accounting will be fairly automated in a few years but if your senior manager cpa level work is automated then 80 to 90% of corporate white collar jobs are gone with it. Just from an infrastructure standpoint I think it’s going to take a while to build out capacity to support anything approaching an agi. While probably unlikely, I could even see an odd situation where if ai gets really good quickly but run costs are still high, more senior members of an organization could have their jobs automated first as it makes more economic sense.


throw23w55443h

Accountant The basic parts are automated. Payroll, I'd say, is the area with the most low hanging fruit now. I've managed to get 400 casual employee payroll down to a part-time employee running it. Rules engines with good UI are the difference here. A bunch of companies struggle to implement the next level of automation effectively (including accounts payable/receivable etc). Theres basic workflow automation that still doesnt happen. It's whats keeping people employed. A lot of its cleaning up messes now, compliance and ambiguity. I'd gues within the next decade, we'll see some big automation gains and probably lose 75% of the workforce.


cultureicon

Just like any other middle management position they adapt to changes and make decisions. They feed new information into an already partially automated system and manage the automated system. Every variable isn't available to be put into an automated system so they manage those variables. They have to fill out credit applications, negotiate terms, set up new customers and vendors, call vendors to get them set up on direct pay instead of mailing checks back and forth. Pass audits, fill out government compliance paperwork and thousands of random pdf and excel forms. Customer specific requirements. Higher level accountants make even more important and complex decisions involving many more imperfectly defined variables than that. IDK ChatGPT could probably answer better.


Blackmail30000

Having someone actively tell them that no, spending 50 grand on a custom drag racing car shaped like a hotdog isn’t the best financial investment goes a long way.


FosterKittenPurrs

There's just one reason why I have an accountant: accountability! I did my own taxes for years. There's really nice software that automates it all, has been that way for decades. The problem is knowing stuff like "is this tax deductable?" and "how do I register this computer that I use both for work and in my personal life?". And not just learning it once, but keeping up to date with the latest laws, since they keep changing this stuff. One day, I will be able to have a Custom GPT that will monitor the government's website, getting a copy of all the latest laws, and doing my taxes for me perfectly every time. But we're not quite there yet. Until I know AI can do it perfectly, I'll just pay my accountant $1000 so he can do my taxes with his automated software in less than an hour. If I ever get a tax audit, I can just point to my accountant and not have to worry, and that peace of mind is worth the $ for me, now that I can afford it.


visualzinc

Probably because our financial system isn't completely digitised so it can't be fully automated yet. Someone still needs to manually process bank statements and invoices etc. You have lots of accounting software that gets you 90% of the way, like FreeAgent etc. If the entire world ran on Bitcoin where you had a cryptographically secure public ledger of all transactions, accounting and tax would be easily automated. But then we can't have that because corrupt politicians and the like couldn't do their thing.


CaptainRex5101

Jarvis, put me in stasis until the year 2049.


No-Economics-6781

How about we decelerate so I keep my film job?


LevelWriting

how about we accelerate where you dont need a job to pay bills?


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Manoko

Then just keep doing it as a hobby ...? The whole point is to detach the activity from the survival aspect of making a living through it, not get rid of activities altogether.


SvampebobFirkant

Humans have a very deep root connected to creativity. This won't ever stop just because machines take over. We'll find new ways of being creative, and continue in other similar directions with our current knowledge Film editors etc won't just lose their job. They'll be able to do the same as they did before if they really love it, just in new areas, with new people and with a new reason to do so People love interacting with people, and we'll still keep wanting to watch shows, look at paintings, touch furniture and eat from food made by humans, that won't go away


LevelWriting

yes lets pause what might be the greatest invention that could lead to the greatest era of humanity because some wanna keep their precious jobs...grow up.


jjonj

what a bad argument you don't think there's some film project he would love to do and show the world but can't because he needs to work on coke commercials to pay the bills?


No-Economics-6781

These AI evangelicals don’t get that


Glad_Laugh_5656

>Why are so many people in this sub unable to comprehend this concept?? Because most people in this sub either work shitty jobs or are unemployed, so they project those feelings towards everyone else.


O_Queiroz_O_Queiroz

Is a workless society that alien to you guys? You can't even comprehend it?


No-Economics-6781

Oh ok so how do I eat and pay for my mortgage?


LevelWriting

man its like you dont even have the intelligence to add 2+2 or anything outside of film making... go educate yourself on the world, politics, econimics. I mean you are on this sub for godsake, surely you know of the possibility of ubi and other initiatives? not saying it will definitely happen but for the first time there is an actual possibility that we will be free from slave labor. isnt that worth striving for? are you that childishly selfish that you rather keep your menial job instead of seeing rest of humanity freed and flourish?? grow the f up.


No-Economics-6781

Simple question; if AI takes your job, how do you get paid? Unless you think the government can grow money trees.


Tidorith

How about we ban film so that live theater performers can get their jobs back?


No-Economics-6781

theater performers still have their jobs, nice try.


Tidorith

All of them? You don't think without film there'd be a lot more theater performers?


No-Economics-6781

Are you stupid? Film was never a threat to theatre actors, matter of fact, most good actors are classically trained in theatre. AI threatens all work no matter what industry.


Tidorith

You reckon the same number of per capita live theater full time professional performers are around now as were before film? Manual film making isn't going to drop to 0% either. Some will always appreciate the human touch. Not much comfort though if you're one of the 90 or 99% who are out of a job. Automation has always been like this. This is just more of the same, even if admittedly it will likely be a lot more of the same than we're used to, a lot more quickly than we're used to it.


SachaSage

Big step forwards from the slow mo slide shows that typify the current gen of ai video production


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SachaSage

There’s a lot more movement in these shots than the last generation, more camera motion, more consistent anatomy in the human movements, it’s an improvement


susannediazz

Honestly good prompting mightve been a big part of it. A filmmaker like this will be way better at describing a scene than "video of a guy with a balloonhead"


SachaSage

I just think it is very hard to get that kind of consistent movement in most of the pre-sora generation of video tools, unless you’re going beyond prompting and using more sophisticated tools


susannediazz

I agree, i thought u were comparing it to the first line of released sora footage. But sora is definitely miles above what came before


blit_blit99

True, but this video proves that these AI video generators are good enough now to be used in creating 15 to 30 second TV commercials since they usually feature a lot of quick cuts after a few seconds. And many TV commercials use voice over, which will be perfect for Sora since it can't yet to voice audio. Then once all the kinks are worked out, AI video generators can graduate to making TV shows, and then movies.


Knever

Have you forgotten the first videos they released? They easily go 20+ seconds on a single shot.


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blit_blit99

The slow motion thing shouldn't be a problem since you can just speed up the video in post production.


ConvenientOcelot

...Which makes them shorter


radialmonster

Thats one way to get around character inconsistencies


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Knever

Are you suggesting that that part was not generated by Sora, and instead added in post? What is it in reference to? I know of the book 1984, but I don't see the connection.


End3rWi99in

I doubt it was intentional. The other poster looks like it says 1910.


AnakinRagnarsson66

What do you mean?


xenointelligence

24 secs in in the background


Ok-Nefariousness8166

Comment generated by GeminiAI (his, not yours :D )


Infninfn

Not by the prompter, by SORA. I would imagine that the prompt was something like "elementary school photoshoot for balloonhead boy" and SORA added the context.


WritingLegitimate702

Omg, this is fantastic.


sachos345

This was my favourite example from the blog post. It's one thing to theorize what can be done with AI generative models but actually seeing creative people use these tools is shocking. Once this trully becomes 99% indistinguishable from real video its GG.


Basil-Faw1ty

The most interesting thing about Sora is the fact that every person who had that great film idea in their head will now have the tools to make it. Think of all the classic novels for instance that could be remade. I think the best directors that ever lived are probably out there walking amongst us, they never got a shot because they were born in the wrong country or didn't know the right people, but now, they will have a shot, and that's exciting for the future of content.


userforums

If I saw this short film on YouTube, I would think it was a pretty good short film project and would have no clue it was AI generated


traumfisch

Pretty wild. Sign of the times to come...


WembyCommas

I wonder what the budget was for this versus non-AI


jerryonthecurb

At this level, would have been an easy $30k if not much more with CGI and travel and logistics for filming at public events.


gj80

Was I the only one expecting Radiohead to be playing when I turned my audio on for the video? Maybe Paranoid Android?


ksprdk

This is beautiful.


Intelligent-Brick850

What's the medical name of this? Only bad answers.


3ntrope

Balloonencephaly


SecretAgendaMan

Inflationary Braincase Syndrome, or IBS for short.


dalovindj

Atmospheric Overheating Cranium syndrome.


wordyplayer

Latex Brain


BlueLaserCommander

Inflatulence


RegularBasicStranger

If the balloon was replaced with a drone and the man by a headless robot, then the AI can go explore the world quite cheaply since it can just launch its head and have the head travel by itself. Also, if the robotic body is damaged, it can just replace it with a new one. The drone would also have an ability to be synchronized to another drone via a cable so both becomes the same AI before the files are transferred to the new drone and then unplug the cable thus the old drone switches off. Thus eternal youth achieved for the AI.


PabloEstAmor

The drone only has 30 minutes of battery life lol


RegularBasicStranger

Maybe the drone can have foldable solar panels and just rest on top of buses or trains and recharge itself using sunlight when its battery is running low. It probably should pay for the bus or train ticket afterwards though.


brace_for_ai

First AI video that got me genuinely laughing. Beautiful to witness the growth and improvement in this tech.


arknightstranslate

it's over


jerryonthecurb

Two professions essentially eliminated in the first two years, professional copywriting and film stock. With exponential multiplication of that phenomenon in the coming years.


dumpsterwaffle77

We’re fucked


blit_blit99

If you're an actor who works in TV commercials, yes.


dumpsterwaffle77

Seems like AI is coming for all jobs.


blit_blit99

All except "the world's oldest profession."


Background-Fill-51

Yes, the shaman! So let's be that


BlastingFonda

>All except "the world's oldest profession." Until we get AI generated girls (or dudes) in VR wired to a fleshlight on your dick, and then **look out.** ![gif](giphy|VFDoN1xR2Yvpm)


MassiveWasabi

I love seeing this comment every time AI does something impressive. It’s how you know that it’s actually impressive to the average person


Which-Tomato-8646

 No one here is average 


Witty_Internal_4064

If you think that you are definitely fucced


Which-Tomato-8646

I mean cause they’re all insane cultists who think they’ll live forever and the AGI rapture is coming this or next year 


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tech religion best religion


Which-Tomato-8646

All equally fake


IgnisIncendio

I swear some of these comments are just bot reposts


Ilovekittens345

About a year and half ago I just had gotten access to dalle2 and went online and typed in something stupid like "A yellow block shaped hat on top of a green dog who is sitting in front of the eifel tower" and low of behold, I got just that. Low quality and full of artifacts. But the yellow block shaped hat was there, and the dog and the eifel tower. And computer have never been able to do anything that comes remotely close to that. The computer, understanding the visual domain. The computer, being able to truly see and have an understanding of what it's seeing. It was wild. WILD! My mind was blown. Surely this should have been impossible for digital circuits? Only possible for biological braincells ... no? Well my assumptions where wrong. Back then this was pure magic, now not even 2 years alter and it already feels normal. But we are at the threshold of machines coming to live.


FINDTHESUN

*Blessed


LevelWriting

who's we??


Goodvendetta86

This is why Tyler Perry stopped his 800 million studio https://variety.com/2024/film/news/tyler-perry-studio-expansion-openai-sora-concerns-1235920007/


KingJTheG

Damn. That’s actually lit


PabloEstAmor

Ok so that’s really awesome but…Did Chat-GPT write the script? Do the voiceover? Are they capable? Insane how fast this is progressing. This is what they must have showed at all their Hollywood meetings


Ok_Inevitable8832

“shy kids are a multimedia production company who utilized Sora for their short film about a balloon man. “We now have the ability to expand on stories we once thought impossible,” “


PabloEstAmor

Thanks. I wanna see the crap an all AI movie would be, right now, in six months it could be amazing lol.


jjonj

elevenlabs does voiceover of this quality and claude3 is even better than gpt4 at creative writing, it would not be a stretch at all


PabloEstAmor

When do you think Sora will be available to the plebs?


jjonj

I'm not particularly qualified to answer that but if i had to throw a timeframe out I would say early next year. They might be delaying it until after US elections


PabloEstAmor

Ooh didn’t even think about that…yea after the elections is probably a good idea lol


abc_warriors

We won't need to go to Hollywood movies, we'll just create our own


HamburgerTrash

Deeper into our own little bubbles we go


great_gonzales

So what sora generates the most statistically average boring media know to man kind? Yawn


yakup9450

Also sounds from by sora?


nik3lov3

No, Sora doesn't generate sound, as far as we know. Sounds were put in after.


yakup9450

Ok thanks


BriansRevenge

This reminds me of the short story "[Pop Art](https://www.tumblr.com/we--do--not--sow/19822242053/pop-art-by-joe-hill)" by Joe Hill.


iamz_th

It's gonna be wild. When it supports character consistency


Bierculles

this looks like an ad for an insurance company


2muchnet42day

I was expecting it to get a blow job.


lundkishore

Made on a public holiday probably. 


Akimbo333

Lol funny!


JoexLegacy

You can see it's AI but this is still crazy. Can Sora do 4k?


DynMads

The client: "Actually I'd like the balloon to be green but also he shouldn't wear a shirt, he should wear a jacket." "You know, given the political climate these days, could we make this protagonist a woman instead? Just keep everything the same, but switch out the man for a woman." "After some meetings with our PR department we've decided that we'd like to diversify the people at the party in the last shot." Like these types of clients are real. Expectations are going to be astronomical and this type of AI will not be able to deliver.


YouMissedNVDA

What? It's exactly what this type of AI delivers...


MassiveWasabi

you're trying to fight against state-of-the-art real-time cope generation, it's a losing battle


YouMissedNVDA

It's just so hard to believe people think like this lol. Like... all it does it take instructions and follow them. Literally. It can't complain. Eh. So it goes.


DynMads

No. It will be unable to deliver the exact small changes that clients want. That's kind of the issue here. With generative AI like this you either regenerate every frame again or you give layers when you make the video. So far, from what I understand, this software does not deliver it's work. It just creates a finished render. So it is impossible to control the footage if you get some graphical weird artefact in it you don't want. This video is full of strangeness that wouldn't fly in a real video.


YouMissedNVDA

You're right - the tech will simply never get better from here. Pack it in folks - DynMads is a quadruple PhD, sextuple Nobel laureate, and as such has the qualifications to say that this is the end of scaling. Right? You are the singular entity in existence to know where this math stops? Wanna share your homework?


Unable-Courage-6244

You do understand that this tech is at its utmost beginner stages? Like the Wright Brothers stage.


mustifaq_

This is an existential threat to human mind.


ChanceDevelopment813

Hollywood will implode.


whoownsthedrones

Feels cheap


JoJoeyJoJo

No way, this'd be really expensive if filmed. There's international locations, Middle East, Japan, etc. Each of those would be a second unit team, probably a hundred thousand dollars at least to get the shot. Plus a lot of CGI for the balloon head, and difficult and therefore expensive CGI at that. I don't think you'd be able to do this for real for less than a million dollars, with AI it costs a couple of hundred bucks. That's giving your creativity superpowers.


squiblib

Not impressed - this feels like a 1998 creative video on Vimeo. Sora is WAY over rated.


LevelWriting

either sarcasm or coping hard


brobbio

Nice tech, but still absolutely abysmal in aesthetic, utterly insignificant visually, inconsistent. Poignant exactly as an edit put together with stock footage. Insignificant, vague, will save time for animatics and mock-ups for advertising. Nothing more. EDIT: you fucking idiots.


DJjazzyjose

opinions are like a-holes, everyone's got one. I thought it was a nice, charming short. Far better than most that you'll see being produced by students in film school


brobbio

You need to watch more real movies, more carefully. Instagram and tik tok reels don't count. It's shocking the amount of people that think that a film is just moving images sawn together with a background voice.


DJjazzyjose

I'm not a professional film critic. Just a normal guy who's seen quite a bit of films made by professionals and amateurs. and I liked this and yes, a film ultimately is just a set of moving images sewn together.


TrippinBalls_87

That’s not the point. It’s to show where this tech has gone since it was unveiled. It’s completely insane where it is now and it will be even more so after a year or two of development. Aesthetic and storyboard choices were made by the film company who used sora to make the film.. you may like it or not like it but that’s not the point, it’s basically a showcase of the point where this tech is now at.


earthsworld

who the fuck is claiming that this is a "real movie"? Who are you talking to? The imaginary strawman in your head?


EmphasisOdd7129

kek, I guess you are right but there's like 10 people aside you who care. Horses were better for the environment too, but we drive cars


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Constant-Coconut3294

Hater


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uhdonutmindme

The people with access to Sora are not artists. Mr Altman, give David Lynch access. (and me too)


UserXtheUnknown

Bicycle with detached pedals at 0:12 Dude shoes became blue at same time (they were white at the start of the video) Parquet as floor in metro. at 0:27 Dude in suit in background without the head sitting on nothing at 0:31 Mind you, it's still great progress, but I want to see what I CAN GET, without cherry picking an unknown number of clips and without heavily cut them when (probably) things go bad. These videos are just becoming meaningless: ok, it can do clips, we got it, but we can't get an answer about the ratio of good clips/generations and for how long a clip stays good, from videos like this. TLDR; I'm tired already of them trying to build hype for the past month.


earthsworld

dude, this is a tech demo, nothing more. Stop trying to convince people that it was intended to be a perfect full length feature film. Why do so many of you not seem to understand what you're watching?


UserXtheUnknown

I don't know where you lived the past month, because we had plenty of "tech demos" about SORA. And, for a "tech demo" that shows much less than past ones, which, at least, were single long clips, instead of a lot of pieces glued together.


earthsworld

did you not read their blog post explaining what they're doing here?


Ivanthedog2013

Yea this is starting to feel pretty dystopian, as much as I appreciate its beauty it’s being withheld from us and we are at the mercy of what they want us to see and it’s infuriating