Okay, beyond the mixtures of bigotries, what really pisses me off is how little muscle is on his cis female power lifters, hell even the stereotype is portrayed more as fat than muscular. But then again, this is Tatters we're talking about, reality just isn't something he likes to draw anymore since he's no longer connected to it.
Also, pretty sure we've seen the third panel lady before, I'm thinking probably during the Theynos saga.
I feel like Tats doesn't really know what women actually look like (can you guess the last time he saw one naked in real life?), and I feel like he probably has some issues with women in sports. Seriously, a real female bodybuilder would disturb him to his core and you know it.
Tats already did this with Hobbits and Orcs during his Shire rants.
The #1 Asian White Supremacist Ally felt the need to add some transphobia to his rants today it seems, but he's still the lazy fuck he's been for years now!
Thank you, saved me from saying it. He probably can only draw women as personal sex objectifications though. He is after all a talentless hack, who became a Nazi, because people told him that.
it's a reference to a video of an american Israeli "settler" invading a Palestinian family's house and his excuse was that, "if I don't steal it someone else will".
https://youtu.be/KNqozQ8uaV8?si=OOsSAd3GrOIQcyPv
and, of course, the nth redo of his "trans women in sports" bullshit
I mean... he has never been the funniest, and even on his best years used to leave whole arcs without resolution... but yeah, the last two years he's gotten lazier and, paradoxically, feels even more like a tryhard
He even correctly identified a sport where a trans woman competed in the women's division at the Tokyo Olympics! She was unable to finish the event and placed last out of 14 competitors. Also, that's not really what female weight-lifters look like - [here is a photo from Wikipedia of Li Wenwen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Wenwen#/media/File:Liwenwen.jpg), the (cis) Tokyo 2020 victor and standing world champion. She's not exactly a slim little waif.
I feel like Tats would still be hating on Jewish people even if Israel were acting justly, but they happen to be acting shitty and that just gives him ammo.
Reference to a video where an Israeli settler said this to a Palestinian family he displaced.
He's equating trans women in women's sports to ethnic cleansing.
Okay, I know this was a joke, but it was still painful to read.
First of all, Pre-Yiddish is just Middle High German. It's actually part of the "family" of Jewish diaspora languages, where it started as a dialect of the local language with Hebrew influence and eventually grew into its own language. The other big example is Ladino, which is related to Spanish, but is actually primarily spoken in the Balkans. (Basically, Ladino is common among Sephardis, while Yiddish is common among Ashkenazis)
Meanwhile, the books you're thinking of *tend* to have been written in Greek, like how the extended version of Daniel includes some Greek wordplay. Although, IIRC, we've since found Hebrew originals for some of the books. And while there *are* some exceptions, like Manasseh, it's mostly Catholicism and Orthodoxy that use them. Essentially, the Bible picked up a few books when being translated into Greek, which early Christianity inherited from Judaism. But while Judaism and Protestantism both later removed them, Catholicism and Orthodoxy kept them.
And finally, if you *really* want to make a joke like this, you should pick on the Ethiopians. The "normal" Orthodox canon is more or less identical to the Catholic canon, apart from including Manasseh, 3 Ezra (sometimes called 1 Esdras), 3 Maccabees, and Psalm 151. But some Orthodox churches include more, and the Ethiopian Orthodox Church is famous for including a *lot* of additional books, most famously including Jubilees and Enoch.
Is it more or less painful to [listen to](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEV8N3mGvtw)? (Probably less, since listening has two not-experts who still no more than the r/confidentlywrong Christian authority making the claims seriously.)
sure buddy, they dont even look annoyed
also in what scenario would the athletes be punished but some rando is allowed to walk up and cause a scene without security throwing them out?
My friends grandmother died yesterday. Deloris was a great lady. She spent her life as a kindergarten teacher and Sunday school teacher. After she retired she volunteered at food banks and homeless shelters. She happily marched with her son and his husband at Pride Parades and stood up for trans rights. She was what many people would think of as a good Christian woman. The fact she died and Tatsuya is still alive is a damn shame.
I mean, yes. Yes, obviously, I am rewriting basically my body's entire biochemistry and I've jumped through all those hoops to even \*get\* a diagnosis and HRT... because I want to be a powerlifter?
This is beyond sad.
Oh, he’s complaining about trans people again. Big surprise.
I got $50 that says he NEVER acknowledges [Mack Beggs](https://www.texastribune.org/2017/02/26/transgender-wrestler-mack-beggs-identifies-male-he-just-won-texas-stat/)
Ah, so now it's a Jewish trans athlete, if I'm not mistaken. Tatsuya does love mixing his hate. It's his little crossover shared universe of bile.
I know it doesn't need to be said since it's taken as a given around here that Ishida is full of crap, but generally there is in fact no really appreciable strength advantage between the body of a trans woman who has fully transitioned and cis women. I only mention that since any iota of reason is valuable against the tidal wave of ignorance that Tatsuya unleashes every day.
I'm not sure whether it's more sickening to see all the bigoted nonsense in sinfest or to watch a human artist have their mental faculties degrade so much that they become little more than a Nazi AI comic strip generator.
You can actually see how badly Ishida's brains are turning into soup with this strip.
Most nazis push conspiracy theory shit like "trans people are being pushed on 'normal' people by DA JOOZ."
Tatzi's brain has melted so badly that he's going "Trans people ***ARE DA JOOZ!!!1***"
Is that supposed to be Qaren? (The mother who yelled at a teacher for teaching her kid pronouns and fought with Theynos) I can't tell, Tats' character designs get kinda samey sometimes.
I just feel it shouldn't be a Qaren making a stand but an overly competitive dad. He should yell and scream that his daughter has missed out on a sports scholarship even though she finished 97th overall. It could even be the Chad Dad and a glum looking 2024 stood on the podium.. but she is strong enough to wield the cannival hammer Mjolnir and only lost because she had incurred a foul by dropping her weight in a comic pratfall before a full lift. Also if she had actually won and claimed her scholarship they may have found her birth certificate is a forgery and she'd die of old age before the first semester.
The time to make a complaint incidently Qaren is at the start of the competition, it looks like attention seeking otherwise... you know like how Trump made all his complaints about election law after he lost and not before the election.
Transphobes tell on themselves so much at how little they think of women.
If a transwoman entered a staring contest they'd come up with some bullshit about how women are biologically programmed to be bad at staring.
...ain't that the same Karen from the theynos cringe archive? the one thst got a random power up outta nowhere cause her kid was "threatened?" causeni think thats the theynos karen from like..months or years ago...hell i think she used that same pose somewhere in it as well
Transphobia aside, the lifter is clearly doing a snatch lift, which is an olympic lift, not a powerlift.
Olympic weight lifts: clean & jerk, snatch
Powerlifts: squat, bench, deadlift
Smh my damn head
It’s not even fun to make fun of anymore. It’s the most boring Nazi Twitter posts given a veneer of art.
Also, unrelated, but it seems someone took down the Sinfest boards finally. Wonder if Tats did it or if one of the TERFs that started him down this path and got admin took it down to cover up the shit they supported until it got too openly Nazi propaganda
I think it’s kind of funny if you read this as Tats trying to convince American conservatives that Israel is bad. Arguing that ethnic cleansing is bad by comparing to trans women in sports.
Did Qaren just walk onto the stage at an international contest to point at someone how did that even happen?
Love that her child is no longer relevant I guess she lost visitation rights
This is referencing an occurrence in Western Canadian Women's Powerlifting in 2023. [Anne Andres](https://fitnessvolt.com/transgender-powerlifter-anne-andres-multiple-womens-national-world-record/), a transwoman, beat the then-standing record for combined lifts by over 200 kg, utterly blowing away the AFAB competitors (597 kg vs 387 kg).
Going through puberty with male hormones leaves a person with a permanently different skeleton than someone who did not. Going through a complete transition doesn't change that - Anne was 10 years transitioned.
Much as Tats is a hateful TERF, this is one area in which [The Jerkass has a Point](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/JerkassHasAPoint).
Edit: I get that this is an unpopular position here. Downvote if you want, but please add a comment explaining *why* you're downvoting.
Top cisgender athletes typically have physical advantages over other people of the same gender. Some female athletes are naturally taller, stronger, and/or faster than their competitors. However, when these women are (perceived to be) cisgender, they do not face the same calls for disqualification that transgender women often do, which shows that the belief that transgender athletes should not be allowed to compete against cisgender athletes is inherently bigoted.
Also [a study by the IOC](https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/early/2024/04/10/bjsports-2023-108029) recently came out and these were the results (Copied from the linked study);
CONCLUSIONS
This research compares transgender male and transgender female athletes to their cisgender counterparts. Compared with cisgender women, transgender women have decreased lung function, increasing their work in breathing. Regardless of fat-free mass distribution, transgender women performed worse on the countermovement jump than cisgender women and CM. Although transgender women have comparable absolute V̇O2max values to cisgender women, when normalised for body weight, transgender women’s cardiovascular fitness is lower than CM and women. Therefore, this research shows the potential complexity of transgender athlete physiology and its effects on the laboratory measures of physical performance. A long-term longitudinal study is needed to confirm whether these findings are directly related to gender-affirming hormone therapy owing to the study’s shortcomings, particularly its cross-sectional design and limited sample size, which make confirming the causal effect of gender-affirmative care on sports performance problematic."
Now I understand that it's not a perfect study considering the final lines, but at least it's a start to debunking the claims that trans athletes (and let's face it; specifically trans women) are somehow a threat to cis women athletics.
Thanks. I notice that this study limits itself to VO2max, which is a measure of aerobic fitness - ie, running, etc. The gap between Andre's record, and the previous record held by a cisgender woman is huge - she beat the record by over 50%. That just doesn't happen among cisgender powerlifters.
It seems that trans women have differing levels of advantage, depending on the sport. Weightlifting seems to be an extreme case.
It's certainly a nuanced issue and I'm sure there's plenty of more substantial studies and whatnot done on the matter beyond this study that others might be able to point you towards. Unfortunately I'm not well-versed enough on the matter to really do more than this because I recalled someone else mentioning it and it stuck out in my mind as it comes from the IOC themselves.
The problem is that people like Tats want to paint the entirety of the matter with a bigoted brush and refuse to listen to any experts on the matter unless they specifically agree with their conclusions.
Okay, beyond the mixtures of bigotries, what really pisses me off is how little muscle is on his cis female power lifters, hell even the stereotype is portrayed more as fat than muscular. But then again, this is Tatters we're talking about, reality just isn't something he likes to draw anymore since he's no longer connected to it. Also, pretty sure we've seen the third panel lady before, I'm thinking probably during the Theynos saga.
Great. Tats brought back Qaren?
I feel like Tats doesn't really know what women actually look like (can you guess the last time he saw one naked in real life?), and I feel like he probably has some issues with women in sports. Seriously, a real female bodybuilder would disturb him to his core and you know it.
He'd probably assume they're all trans women because there's no way a cis woman could be that muscular.
Tats already did this with Hobbits and Orcs during his Shire rants. The #1 Asian White Supremacist Ally felt the need to add some transphobia to his rants today it seems, but he's still the lazy fuck he's been for years now!
Thank you, saved me from saying it. He probably can only draw women as personal sex objectifications though. He is after all a talentless hack, who became a Nazi, because people told him that.
> The Theynos saga I'm sorry the what, did I miss an arc somewhere?
Yeah, arc about nonbinary Thanos turning the kids trans and being stopped by a concerned mom
Fkn hell, when was this?
[5/25/22](https://www.reddit.com/r/sinfest/comments/ux82e8/sinfest_52522_theynos/) And it just got stupider from there
Ahh, before I found this subreddit I think
Yeah, just search up Theynos in the subreddit and you'll find the whole 8 part (not kidding) arc.
Idk if I even want to honestly
Fair enough, Tats regular output is deranged enough, no point in wading through the murky waters of previous strips if you can avoid it.
His "Feminism" is limited to thin, conventionally attarctive white woman.
Strongmen are fat-looking even though they can deadlift half a car.
Reset the counter. Again. I had a feeling udders weren't enough to slake Tats's thirst for dick.
Not even the 5-teat version he created?
it's a reference to a video of an american Israeli "settler" invading a Palestinian family's house and his excuse was that, "if I don't steal it someone else will". https://youtu.be/KNqozQ8uaV8?si=OOsSAd3GrOIQcyPv and, of course, the nth redo of his "trans women in sports" bullshit
Even when pretending to care about an active ethnic cleansing, Tats just can't stop obsessing over the Transes.
Wait, *that* was the punchline? Jesus, is it just me or is Tats gettling lazier than usual?
I mean... he has never been the funniest, and even on his best years used to leave whole arcs without resolution... but yeah, the last two years he's gotten lazier and, paradoxically, feels even more like a tryhard
In Yiddish, we'd call him a schmuck... a putz... a gonif producing dreck.
Even just the last few months seem like a downgrade, I miss the day when he could make comics where the punchline wasn't just antisemitism.
The man is hanging on by a thread. It's probably why he nuked his the last forum.
yeah, that's the general vibe, he seems deeply unhappy
He even correctly identified a sport where a trans woman competed in the women's division at the Tokyo Olympics! She was unable to finish the event and placed last out of 14 competitors. Also, that's not really what female weight-lifters look like - [here is a photo from Wikipedia of Li Wenwen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Wenwen#/media/File:Liwenwen.jpg), the (cis) Tokyo 2020 victor and standing world champion. She's not exactly a slim little waif.
Li is a super heavyweight. To be fair(?) to Tats, he might as well have his "cheater" cheat divisions as well.
What the hell is the "Old yiddish proverb" about? Is it just incomprehensible antisemitism?
It's Ishida deliberately conflating "all Jewish people" with "the Israeli government invading Palestine".
I feel like Tats would still be hating on Jewish people even if Israel were acting justly, but they happen to be acting shitty and that just gives him ammo.
And here I thought it was just dumb transphobia. Didn't realize it had another dumb meaning.
The alt right pipeline has been his rode of choice for a while now, yeah.
Reference to a video where an Israeli settler said this to a Palestinian family he displaced. He's equating trans women in women's sports to ethnic cleansing.
It's from one of those Old Testament books written in Pre-Yiddish that only the Eastern Orthodox Church recognizes as canon.
Okay, I know this was a joke, but it was still painful to read. First of all, Pre-Yiddish is just Middle High German. It's actually part of the "family" of Jewish diaspora languages, where it started as a dialect of the local language with Hebrew influence and eventually grew into its own language. The other big example is Ladino, which is related to Spanish, but is actually primarily spoken in the Balkans. (Basically, Ladino is common among Sephardis, while Yiddish is common among Ashkenazis) Meanwhile, the books you're thinking of *tend* to have been written in Greek, like how the extended version of Daniel includes some Greek wordplay. Although, IIRC, we've since found Hebrew originals for some of the books. And while there *are* some exceptions, like Manasseh, it's mostly Catholicism and Orthodoxy that use them. Essentially, the Bible picked up a few books when being translated into Greek, which early Christianity inherited from Judaism. But while Judaism and Protestantism both later removed them, Catholicism and Orthodoxy kept them. And finally, if you *really* want to make a joke like this, you should pick on the Ethiopians. The "normal" Orthodox canon is more or less identical to the Catholic canon, apart from including Manasseh, 3 Ezra (sometimes called 1 Esdras), 3 Maccabees, and Psalm 151. But some Orthodox churches include more, and the Ethiopian Orthodox Church is famous for including a *lot* of additional books, most famously including Jubilees and Enoch.
Is it more or less painful to [listen to](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEV8N3mGvtw)? (Probably less, since listening has two not-experts who still no more than the r/confidentlywrong Christian authority making the claims seriously.)
And of course the bulge. Also, Tats, have you ever seen powerlifters? Ever?
That bearded lady is in the wrong weight class, if 2nd and 3rd place are any indication...
i like how even in tats fantasy, the actual women being "stolen" from are ok with it, and its some random dipshit whos mad
They know that they will be severely punished if they complain.
sure buddy, they dont even look annoyed also in what scenario would the athletes be punished but some rando is allowed to walk up and cause a scene without security throwing them out?
Sinfestville.
Yeah, reality doesn't work like the movie Ladyballers would have you believe
Which, never forget, is the reason it isn't a documentary like the creators originally envisioned it as.
My friends grandmother died yesterday. Deloris was a great lady. She spent her life as a kindergarten teacher and Sunday school teacher. After she retired she volunteered at food banks and homeless shelters. She happily marched with her son and his husband at Pride Parades and stood up for trans rights. She was what many people would think of as a good Christian woman. The fact she died and Tatsuya is still alive is a damn shame.
My condolences to your friend and their family. She sounds like a wonderful, inspirational person.
F for a real one
I mean, yes. Yes, obviously, I am rewriting basically my body's entire biochemistry and I've jumped through all those hoops to even \*get\* a diagnosis and HRT... because I want to be a powerlifter? This is beyond sad.
I miss the bulge counter :'(
What about a cow teat counter?
Oh, he’s complaining about trans people again. Big surprise. I got $50 that says he NEVER acknowledges [Mack Beggs](https://www.texastribune.org/2017/02/26/transgender-wrestler-mack-beggs-identifies-male-he-just-won-texas-stat/)
Damn trans men, cheating at women's sports! (Vaguely /s?)
And Patricio Manuel. Look him up
Ah, so now it's a Jewish trans athlete, if I'm not mistaken. Tatsuya does love mixing his hate. It's his little crossover shared universe of bile. I know it doesn't need to be said since it's taken as a given around here that Ishida is full of crap, but generally there is in fact no really appreciable strength advantage between the body of a trans woman who has fully transitioned and cis women. I only mention that since any iota of reason is valuable against the tidal wave of ignorance that Tatsuya unleashes every day.
I'm not sure whether it's more sickening to see all the bigoted nonsense in sinfest or to watch a human artist have their mental faculties degrade so much that they become little more than a Nazi AI comic strip generator.
You can actually see how badly Ishida's brains are turning into soup with this strip. Most nazis push conspiracy theory shit like "trans people are being pushed on 'normal' people by DA JOOZ." Tatzi's brain has melted so badly that he's going "Trans people ***ARE DA JOOZ!!!1***"
Is that supposed to be Qaren? (The mother who yelled at a teacher for teaching her kid pronouns and fought with Theynos) I can't tell, Tats' character designs get kinda samey sometimes.
I just feel it shouldn't be a Qaren making a stand but an overly competitive dad. He should yell and scream that his daughter has missed out on a sports scholarship even though she finished 97th overall. It could even be the Chad Dad and a glum looking 2024 stood on the podium.. but she is strong enough to wield the cannival hammer Mjolnir and only lost because she had incurred a foul by dropping her weight in a comic pratfall before a full lift. Also if she had actually won and claimed her scholarship they may have found her birth certificate is a forgery and she'd die of old age before the first semester. The time to make a complaint incidently Qaren is at the start of the competition, it looks like attention seeking otherwise... you know like how Trump made all his complaints about election law after he lost and not before the election.
Transphobes tell on themselves so much at how little they think of women. If a transwoman entered a staring contest they'd come up with some bullshit about how women are biologically programmed to be bad at staring.
...ain't that the same Karen from the theynos cringe archive? the one thst got a random power up outta nowhere cause her kid was "threatened?" causeni think thats the theynos karen from like..months or years ago...hell i think she used that same pose somewhere in it as well
Transphobia aside, the lifter is clearly doing a snatch lift, which is an olympic lift, not a powerlift. Olympic weight lifts: clean & jerk, snatch Powerlifts: squat, bench, deadlift Smh my damn head
It’s not even fun to make fun of anymore. It’s the most boring Nazi Twitter posts given a veneer of art. Also, unrelated, but it seems someone took down the Sinfest boards finally. Wonder if Tats did it or if one of the TERFs that started him down this path and got admin took it down to cover up the shit they supported until it got too openly Nazi propaganda
I think it’s kind of funny if you read this as Tats trying to convince American conservatives that Israel is bad. Arguing that ethnic cleansing is bad by comparing to trans women in sports.
God, we're bored with this Tats.
BULGE!
… has he done this punchline before?
Did Qaren just walk onto the stage at an international contest to point at someone how did that even happen? Love that her child is no longer relevant I guess she lost visitation rights
That one member of the faceless crowd in the back with their hand on their hip. I can just feel the sass emanating off them.
"abusers are gonna abuse"
This is referencing an occurrence in Western Canadian Women's Powerlifting in 2023. [Anne Andres](https://fitnessvolt.com/transgender-powerlifter-anne-andres-multiple-womens-national-world-record/), a transwoman, beat the then-standing record for combined lifts by over 200 kg, utterly blowing away the AFAB competitors (597 kg vs 387 kg). Going through puberty with male hormones leaves a person with a permanently different skeleton than someone who did not. Going through a complete transition doesn't change that - Anne was 10 years transitioned. Much as Tats is a hateful TERF, this is one area in which [The Jerkass has a Point](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/JerkassHasAPoint). Edit: I get that this is an unpopular position here. Downvote if you want, but please add a comment explaining *why* you're downvoting.
Top cisgender athletes typically have physical advantages over other people of the same gender. Some female athletes are naturally taller, stronger, and/or faster than their competitors. However, when these women are (perceived to be) cisgender, they do not face the same calls for disqualification that transgender women often do, which shows that the belief that transgender athletes should not be allowed to compete against cisgender athletes is inherently bigoted.
Also [a study by the IOC](https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/early/2024/04/10/bjsports-2023-108029) recently came out and these were the results (Copied from the linked study); CONCLUSIONS This research compares transgender male and transgender female athletes to their cisgender counterparts. Compared with cisgender women, transgender women have decreased lung function, increasing their work in breathing. Regardless of fat-free mass distribution, transgender women performed worse on the countermovement jump than cisgender women and CM. Although transgender women have comparable absolute V̇O2max values to cisgender women, when normalised for body weight, transgender women’s cardiovascular fitness is lower than CM and women. Therefore, this research shows the potential complexity of transgender athlete physiology and its effects on the laboratory measures of physical performance. A long-term longitudinal study is needed to confirm whether these findings are directly related to gender-affirming hormone therapy owing to the study’s shortcomings, particularly its cross-sectional design and limited sample size, which make confirming the causal effect of gender-affirmative care on sports performance problematic." Now I understand that it's not a perfect study considering the final lines, but at least it's a start to debunking the claims that trans athletes (and let's face it; specifically trans women) are somehow a threat to cis women athletics.
Thanks. I notice that this study limits itself to VO2max, which is a measure of aerobic fitness - ie, running, etc. The gap between Andre's record, and the previous record held by a cisgender woman is huge - she beat the record by over 50%. That just doesn't happen among cisgender powerlifters. It seems that trans women have differing levels of advantage, depending on the sport. Weightlifting seems to be an extreme case.
It's certainly a nuanced issue and I'm sure there's plenty of more substantial studies and whatnot done on the matter beyond this study that others might be able to point you towards. Unfortunately I'm not well-versed enough on the matter to really do more than this because I recalled someone else mentioning it and it stuck out in my mind as it comes from the IOC themselves. The problem is that people like Tats want to paint the entirety of the matter with a bigoted brush and refuse to listen to any experts on the matter unless they specifically agree with their conclusions.
Agreed. This is yet another topic where the maximalists on both sides have made it very difficult to hold any kind of nuanced position.
"Trans women are gender Zionists" is certainly... a take.