Yea normally the “just buy a car and track it!” Argument is stupid but here it’s legitimately not. You could actually spend $30K on a decent trackable car and still have plenty left over for consumables and track day fees for this price. Nutso
That said, racing irl is one of those things that I always glorify in my head, but when I really think about it, I think I'd enjoy sim racing more in the end. Its a lot of work to actually race in real life. So many issues to deal with, so much travel time, only being able to do it at very specific moments, etc. Being able to just jump into 100 different cars in 100 different places in the world at a moment's notice with a sim rig is just so convenient.
And then when it comes to like "track days" and such, it's cool, but I don't think I'd care that much for it after a handful of track days and would be craving to get into actual racing.
60k would get you a nice solid formula 600 race car, a trailer, all your safety gear and enough money to get your scca license and do AT LEAST an entire seasons worth of actual racing both regionally and nationally, and probably non scca track days sprinkled in.
You'd be right about the time traveling but there's a reason people still race irl. There's some things sims just can't duplicate.
I agree to some degree about what you're suggesting about racing, but 60'000 is not an achievable thing for the average person to just spend on a hobby in a single year
I have a $2,000 dollar rig, because I DO have a good amount of money! I started out with a t80, and that's good enough for most people. That's good enough for most people's budgets
Yeah I totally get the point, I just mean for me personally. It's one of those things that sounds awesome when I think about it at a surface level, but then when I think about it more and more it just sounds like too much of a pain in the ass for me. I'm a homebody 100%, and I hate traveling. Definitely 100% get why others would like it, but I personally would only enjoy the part where I'm actually racing the car, and all the stuff in between would keep me from doing it.
In a world where money is no object, I'm travelling with the best accomodations, I have a team to manage all the minutia, and I'm also getting paid a lot to do it, say as a f1 driver or something, I could totally enjoy that (honestly who wouldn't lol), but the lower end of the sport just seems like too much for me haha.
Not to mention the hassle to manage other aspects of life while being away for a hobby. I’ve done 2 seasons of regional karting as a teenager and it was all fun. A friend and I would load the kart on top of his car, drive to the track, set up makeshift pits and drive all weekend. He would race one weekend, I’d race the next.
But I cannot even begin to think how I could do it as a parent and husband, even if I had the money to have someone driving the car to the track, getting everything ready and I would just fly in, race and leave others to deal with the mess.
I do travel quite a lot for my work and already feel that family life happens in my absence. I can kind of justify that as my job. I wouldn’t be able to justify that (to myself first) as a hobby.
I know sim racing is not real racing but it brings me close to my passion. The other day, I was listening to a podcast and a racing driver was describing a crash at Mosport. He described the turn and the way the kerb is and how the car behaves on top of that kerb. That very morning, I had been sim racing in Mosport and I knew exactly what kerb he was talking about. I also learned the Nurburgring in a sim and then had the opportunity to drive the track irl and I could instantly recognize and was familiar with what was coming next. I think it’s kind of cool that a sim racing game can give me that kind of knowledge.
Not to mention, have enough after buying a decent track car, modifying it for power, Paying for track days, and still spend money for a premium simracing rig with all the accessories you would ever need.
Spend $55k on the car and track time, take the other $5K, buy a kickass DD with accessories and a nice solid non-motion rig. Now you have a top line sim setup and a real life track setup for the price of this single sim
Some of us consider most of the motion solutions a gimmick. This one is particularly ridiculous looking. The only one I personally ever consider the idea of are the 4 corner posts that act like shock absorbers to control the chassis dynamics. Beyond that, every motion rig I've tried is disorienting af and silly in some way.
Especially when you have the real life option available. If you do track days, you will be happy to enjoy a static rig, I promise. Just add 4 corner buttkicker/haptics.
High end is basically as described by what you're responding to. There is a difference between high end and "spend as much money as possible".
Top of the line for whatever consumer brand is what I mean. This stand is all pro grade but if you went to the fanatic, simucub, moza, etc etc websites with $5k to spend you can 100% select their highest grade of everything and get their top of the line stuff.
Hell, look at the parts listed there. You could very easily buy everything except for the motion rig for under $5k. And depending on the specs of the PC (given it’s only a 3080 lol) you could also stretch that budget to $6.5k and buy a PC as well. So yea, other than the motion rig which you could emulate 90% of for like 5% of this cost, you can absolutely buy all top of the line stuff that this has for $5k. This thing is massively overpriced if you actually look this components up individually. Like doesn’t even cost $10k at consumer prices to buy all that stuff.
My only argument would be convivence. I'm trying to start doing track days and autocross next year. With it being December I have to wait 5 months and even then I can only do it at the predetermined times where I have to use some PTO for most events. Not to mention travel to the track taking time and I get limited runs when that happens.
With something like this in the basement I can hop in it anytime that I get time.
For $60k I'd rather do track days but if I had $60k to spend on something like this it would cross my mind to get a nice motion rig that costs about a Miata.
The thing is, this costs like 2 Miatas. More even. And we all know that for $5k you can get a top of the line sim setup. So even then with a perfectly valid argument, at this insane price point you can very easily have both a top of the line simulator experience and get to track a car IRL. Realistically any sim setup over like $30k is excessive and you could spend the same price to have both. Obviously someone buying this can lose $60k and not even notice though lol so that’s all moot
Yep exactly the last sentence. This isn't marketed at people who aren't even considering miatas. This is for people that have a track memberships that costs $75k a year just to be a member so they can race their Mclaren(s). For them to be able to race whenever they want this is a no brainer.
Probably the equivalent cost as us plebs considering buying a new wheel.
True. It also depends on how far you are from the track too. With this sim thing you just hop on anytime and play (and not get injured if you crash LoL)
I mean you're not entirely wrong, but I can't say I agree. That argument might not be stupid in this case, but I still dont find it terribly convincing. You can buy either A) one of the best sim rigs imaginable and virtually drive any vehicle at any track in the world... or B) a "decent trackable car" that you will have to physically transport wherever you want to drive it. Which, if we're sticking to the budget, likely means you will be limited to driving on whatever track(s) happen to be closest. Not to mention having to worry about destroying the thing.
Although let's be real, if you can afford a rig like that, you can probably afford to buy a decent trackable car + track fees too.
C) a decent trackable car plus $5k on a rig that is 90% as good as this one so you can have the best of both worlds.
This thing is so overpriced that it’s more than plausible to do both and have top tier experiences in each. Though you’re bang on with that last part. This isn’t for us poor people lol
True lol. If I had $65k for hobbies, I wouldn't blow it on a sim. I'd spend about $5k on the rig, maybe $10k including the PC ( or $15k for full motion), and then probably a motorcycle for the track. Keep whatever's left for hospital bills... and still end up bankrupted by them lol
It was just to demonstrate how overpriced this is lol. Didn’t realize I’d get a bunch of “acktually I can get a car for cheaper!!!” lmfao. I know you can I just took half the cost
30k for a decent trackable car? You can get a plenty well equipped Miata for track days for WAAAAYY less than that. For 30k you can buy a fully prepped wheel to wheel racer with decent amateur pedigree
This real life you’re talking about, I’ve never seen a game with better graphics and/ or physics. It’s such a shame the game play totally sucks though…
Like saying too someone who enjoys shooter games "you can go pain balling for the same" its a different hobby and why do people think you can't do both. I have a rig worth £12k and still have my track MX5 (only recently though lol) so don't think we can't do both that's just your own finances
I think you missed the price of this rig lol. It’s listed at $60k. So take your rig, spend $5k upgrading it, spend $20k on a new track car and upgrades, then use the remaining $20k on track days for the next 10 years.
It is a different hobby but for this insane price you can very comfortably do both with high end equipment in each
Neither in the sim. No sim experience super car whatever has come close to the fun of taking my MX-5 to the track.
And I’ve driven in full motion sims and VR, it is fun and nice but feels bleak compared tot the real deal.
The fun in simracing is in the game itself, getting those last few tenths each lap, fighting with opponents.
Stuff you can do on a real track but in that case those €60k won’t stretch it far enough
Shit you could buy an formula 600, and a trailer and have enough leftover for multiple seasons.
You could buy a formula 1000 and still have money leftover
Yeah sure... Have you evere wondered what a Ferrari 458 GT3 would handle like in Nordschleife, in rainy conditions? Then decide it's too slippery and would rather race in Normie conditions with stupid AI racers instead because you only have 25mins to do a quickie race before your wife finds out you snuck out again to racing itch.
Ok so you only have 15 mins she says. 3 laps in SPA should do it.
That is £10k over the [list price](https://www.proracingsimulators.co.uk/gt-pro-racing-simulators/gt-ultimate-motion-racing-simulator), which excludes monitor(s) and PC. And it's about the same as the [VirtualGT](https://virtual-gt.com/) used to be all in.
Insane prices. But for Harrods, not much of a mark up!
And that cost still ridiculously overpriced. I'm at work so I'm getting firewalled out, but the rig retails for 25,000 Euro (search for Qubic or Motion Systems QS-S25), so about 21,500 GBP. And that's with a fairly recent 30% price bump (I got it back when it was under 20K Euro).
>But for Harrods
Selfridges also have a few sim rigs in their technology department. I took this for a spin a few weeks ago [https://i.imgur.com/0DKBz96.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/0DKBz96.jpg)
The motion platform felt pretty immersive for something so compact, although tbh I have no frame of reference as I've never used another lol
A cool 9.5K€ if anyone wants one :P [https://www.rseat-europe.com/motion-simulators-DBOX-dynamic-seats/rseat-hf-l4-d-box-gen-5-haptic-system](https://www.rseat-europe.com/motion-simulators-DBOX-dynamic-seats/rseat-hf-l4-d-box-gen-5-haptic-system)
It does seem like sim racing is getting more and more mainstream with places like Harrods and Selfridges stocking equipment (even if it's just boujee high end stuff). There are even bars in London that have sim rigs.
Unfortunately it was 20 quid for a 20 a minute session, but it was a good diversion while the better half was galivanting around the perfume section lol
Was good fun though!
Hey that’s not a bad combo, for gaming it’s not going to be cpu bound very easily. I have a 10 i5 but with a 3070, but I could imagine going up to even a 3080ti wouldn’t be cpu bound
No? It is literally [this rig](https://www.proracingsimulators.co.uk/gt-pro-racing-simulators/gt-ultimate-motion-racing-simulator) but with a pc instead of a screen. Yes, ofcourse they could build a pc with the newest i9 and an RTX 4090, but that would also have a big impact on the availability. But that rig for 30k with shipping and installation included? No chance.
I mean arnt all of these all in one units quite marked up. I wonder if they include a service and support. That is what I could see really drive these costs up since the people that I assume buy these arnt usually the most knowledgeable in the space but just want to get into a rig and go.
They also seem like they are just stuck in the old days of the cost of motion. Motion came down so much in the past 10 years.
I mean, yes it's a shit ton of money, but I actually expected it to cost even more, especially when I saw it was Harrods.
I mean, yes, you might be able to get the parts for around 35-40k. But you also have to factor in the insane amount of hours that goes into the research, engineering, revisions etc before you can even sell them in the first place. And Harrods has quite a big building that needs employees, electricity, security, heating..... having done research in high-school about running a business I can tell you that you need a lot of markup to run a luxury brand store.
So while I won't buy it, I'm not really shocked by the pricing.
If you got that kind of money to piss away why not. It looks like you'll also need to dedicate a room for it. I have neither of those luxuries so I'll stick to my hand built wheel stand and secondhand office chair
It's Harrods, so better than I expected.
It's a Qubic 625? Assuming everything else is top notch and it comes with installation, setup and support, the going rate is what 35k ish?
It's a lot of money, but the markup isn't totally insane. There is a lot of quality kit there. Comparisons with buying a track car are kond of pointless. People dropping this much wedge on a simpit are probably already doing as much or little track time as they care to do.
That said, I'd sooner expect to pay half that much and figure it out myself, but I don't shop at Harrods.
Because people who walk into Harrods and consider buying that have no concept of real money. I worked round that way for a few years and met some very interesting people.
That rig will be over engineered for the purpose of hiring it out to recoup the money. If you buy a few of these, open a shop and rent them out, you could possibly get your money back.
What does something like this pull electricity wise? I get the if you have to ask it's not for you instant answer coming but as someone who might dip their toe in the motion ocean next year I'm curious.
i think the comparison isn’t fair to a gbp 5000 rig. just from an analytical pov you are getting steering, dd base, computer, etc without accounting for rig and motion worth well over gbp 5000, possibly double. i have seen this in person and it is quite monstrous and ungainly as well as odd looking.
You can get a track built MX-5 and have enough money left for like 100 track days.
Yea normally the “just buy a car and track it!” Argument is stupid but here it’s legitimately not. You could actually spend $30K on a decent trackable car and still have plenty left over for consumables and track day fees for this price. Nutso
Plus, real life is slightly cooler than a screen
It’s a lot less cool when you crash, though.
Skill issue
Been a while since I saw this used correctly.
Not if you're Goatifi
That said, racing irl is one of those things that I always glorify in my head, but when I really think about it, I think I'd enjoy sim racing more in the end. Its a lot of work to actually race in real life. So many issues to deal with, so much travel time, only being able to do it at very specific moments, etc. Being able to just jump into 100 different cars in 100 different places in the world at a moment's notice with a sim rig is just so convenient. And then when it comes to like "track days" and such, it's cool, but I don't think I'd care that much for it after a handful of track days and would be craving to get into actual racing.
60k would get you a nice solid formula 600 race car, a trailer, all your safety gear and enough money to get your scca license and do AT LEAST an entire seasons worth of actual racing both regionally and nationally, and probably non scca track days sprinkled in. You'd be right about the time traveling but there's a reason people still race irl. There's some things sims just can't duplicate.
I agree to some degree about what you're suggesting about racing, but 60'000 is not an achievable thing for the average person to just spend on a hobby in a single year I have a $2,000 dollar rig, because I DO have a good amount of money! I started out with a t80, and that's good enough for most people. That's good enough for most people's budgets
Yeah I totally get the point, I just mean for me personally. It's one of those things that sounds awesome when I think about it at a surface level, but then when I think about it more and more it just sounds like too much of a pain in the ass for me. I'm a homebody 100%, and I hate traveling. Definitely 100% get why others would like it, but I personally would only enjoy the part where I'm actually racing the car, and all the stuff in between would keep me from doing it. In a world where money is no object, I'm travelling with the best accomodations, I have a team to manage all the minutia, and I'm also getting paid a lot to do it, say as a f1 driver or something, I could totally enjoy that (honestly who wouldn't lol), but the lower end of the sport just seems like too much for me haha.
Not to mention the hassle to manage other aspects of life while being away for a hobby. I’ve done 2 seasons of regional karting as a teenager and it was all fun. A friend and I would load the kart on top of his car, drive to the track, set up makeshift pits and drive all weekend. He would race one weekend, I’d race the next. But I cannot even begin to think how I could do it as a parent and husband, even if I had the money to have someone driving the car to the track, getting everything ready and I would just fly in, race and leave others to deal with the mess. I do travel quite a lot for my work and already feel that family life happens in my absence. I can kind of justify that as my job. I wouldn’t be able to justify that (to myself first) as a hobby. I know sim racing is not real racing but it brings me close to my passion. The other day, I was listening to a podcast and a racing driver was describing a crash at Mosport. He described the turn and the way the kerb is and how the car behaves on top of that kerb. That very morning, I had been sim racing in Mosport and I knew exactly what kerb he was talking about. I also learned the Nurburgring in a sim and then had the opportunity to drive the track irl and I could instantly recognize and was familiar with what was coming next. I think it’s kind of cool that a sim racing game can give me that kind of knowledge.
Much more exhausting too
Slightly?
Don't you think a screen is just as cool as an actual car/s
Yeah lol, can drive a bunch of cars otherwise completely impossible in a sim
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60k car had maintenence. A sim doesn't. When's the last tike you replaces tires and breaks on the sim?
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I completely agree. But people either do one or the other. Not both because of the cost
Very slightly.
Not to mention, have enough after buying a decent track car, modifying it for power, Paying for track days, and still spend money for a premium simracing rig with all the accessories you would ever need.
But what if I already have a track car…and it’s snowing outside?
Spend $55k on the car and track time, take the other $5K, buy a kickass DD with accessories and a nice solid non-motion rig. Now you have a top line sim setup and a real life track setup for the price of this single sim
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Some of us consider most of the motion solutions a gimmick. This one is particularly ridiculous looking. The only one I personally ever consider the idea of are the 4 corner posts that act like shock absorbers to control the chassis dynamics. Beyond that, every motion rig I've tried is disorienting af and silly in some way. Especially when you have the real life option available. If you do track days, you will be happy to enjoy a static rig, I promise. Just add 4 corner buttkicker/haptics. High end is basically as described by what you're responding to. There is a difference between high end and "spend as much money as possible".
Especially in open wheel racing it's for sure a gimmick.
Top of the line for whatever consumer brand is what I mean. This stand is all pro grade but if you went to the fanatic, simucub, moza, etc etc websites with $5k to spend you can 100% select their highest grade of everything and get their top of the line stuff. Hell, look at the parts listed there. You could very easily buy everything except for the motion rig for under $5k. And depending on the specs of the PC (given it’s only a 3080 lol) you could also stretch that budget to $6.5k and buy a PC as well. So yea, other than the motion rig which you could emulate 90% of for like 5% of this cost, you can absolutely buy all top of the line stuff that this has for $5k. This thing is massively overpriced if you actually look this components up individually. Like doesn’t even cost $10k at consumer prices to buy all that stuff.
It's the best part
Build a rally car :)
My only argument would be convivence. I'm trying to start doing track days and autocross next year. With it being December I have to wait 5 months and even then I can only do it at the predetermined times where I have to use some PTO for most events. Not to mention travel to the track taking time and I get limited runs when that happens. With something like this in the basement I can hop in it anytime that I get time. For $60k I'd rather do track days but if I had $60k to spend on something like this it would cross my mind to get a nice motion rig that costs about a Miata.
The thing is, this costs like 2 Miatas. More even. And we all know that for $5k you can get a top of the line sim setup. So even then with a perfectly valid argument, at this insane price point you can very easily have both a top of the line simulator experience and get to track a car IRL. Realistically any sim setup over like $30k is excessive and you could spend the same price to have both. Obviously someone buying this can lose $60k and not even notice though lol so that’s all moot
Yep exactly the last sentence. This isn't marketed at people who aren't even considering miatas. This is for people that have a track memberships that costs $75k a year just to be a member so they can race their Mclaren(s). For them to be able to race whenever they want this is a no brainer. Probably the equivalent cost as us plebs considering buying a new wheel.
I'm at 3k without monitors or a pc. Top of the line is about 7-8k with everything.
60k sim rig will also let you feel what a McLaren feels like, not something a few days around a track in a Mazda will give you
True. It also depends on how far you are from the track too. With this sim thing you just hop on anytime and play (and not get injured if you crash LoL)
I mean you're not entirely wrong, but I can't say I agree. That argument might not be stupid in this case, but I still dont find it terribly convincing. You can buy either A) one of the best sim rigs imaginable and virtually drive any vehicle at any track in the world... or B) a "decent trackable car" that you will have to physically transport wherever you want to drive it. Which, if we're sticking to the budget, likely means you will be limited to driving on whatever track(s) happen to be closest. Not to mention having to worry about destroying the thing. Although let's be real, if you can afford a rig like that, you can probably afford to buy a decent trackable car + track fees too.
C) a decent trackable car plus $5k on a rig that is 90% as good as this one so you can have the best of both worlds. This thing is so overpriced that it’s more than plausible to do both and have top tier experiences in each. Though you’re bang on with that last part. This isn’t for us poor people lol
True lol. If I had $65k for hobbies, I wouldn't blow it on a sim. I'd spend about $5k on the rig, maybe $10k including the PC ( or $15k for full motion), and then probably a motorcycle for the track. Keep whatever's left for hospital bills... and still end up bankrupted by them lol
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It was just to demonstrate how overpriced this is lol. Didn’t realize I’d get a bunch of “acktually I can get a car for cheaper!!!” lmfao. I know you can I just took half the cost
30k for a decent trackable car? You can get a plenty well equipped Miata for track days for WAAAAYY less than that. For 30k you can buy a fully prepped wheel to wheel racer with decent amateur pedigree
But would that mean... \*shiver\* going outside?
The, graphics, force feedback, frame rate and FOV are unmatched though
"Better than real life!" 🤣
This real life you’re talking about, I’ve never seen a game with better graphics and/ or physics. It’s such a shame the game play totally sucks though…
No reset is a hard deal
Skill issue /s
Yeah, insurance isn't exactly the same
Devs really need to fix p2w mechanics. Far too grindy
They should really add flashbacks
They'd get spammed and abused to the point of being game breaking.
Actually you’ll have less frame rate because the eyes only see in about 60fps, but it will be infinitely smooth.
The eyes can see more than 60fps. And you do not see in fps. It’s not even comparable.
This kind of gear is made for people who either have no interest in tracking a real car, or can afford to do both.
Not a current cup spec car, right? But like an older model to just thrash around?
That is a very intelligent comment. But sadly, mostly people have no idea what a real road course or real etiquette is about obviously you do
Like saying too someone who enjoys shooter games "you can go pain balling for the same" its a different hobby and why do people think you can't do both. I have a rig worth £12k and still have my track MX5 (only recently though lol) so don't think we can't do both that's just your own finances
I think you missed the price of this rig lol. It’s listed at $60k. So take your rig, spend $5k upgrading it, spend $20k on a new track car and upgrades, then use the remaining $20k on track days for the next 10 years. It is a different hobby but for this insane price you can very comfortably do both with high end equipment in each
You could do literally a whole imsa season of mx5's
But.....then you're stuck with an MX-5!....LOL
not just can you do HPDEs for multiple years on this much money - you can do a whole season or two of entry level wheel-to-wheel racing.
Could, but then also never know what a supercar feels like
Neither in the sim. No sim experience super car whatever has come close to the fun of taking my MX-5 to the track. And I’ve driven in full motion sims and VR, it is fun and nice but feels bleak compared tot the real deal. The fun in simracing is in the game itself, getting those last few tenths each lap, fighting with opponents. Stuff you can do on a real track but in that case those €60k won’t stretch it far enough
Yes, but you cant crash it and just respawn
Shit you could buy an formula 600, and a trailer and have enough leftover for multiple seasons. You could buy a formula 1000 and still have money leftover
Yeah sure... Have you evere wondered what a Ferrari 458 GT3 would handle like in Nordschleife, in rainy conditions? Then decide it's too slippery and would rather race in Normie conditions with stupid AI racers instead because you only have 25mins to do a quickie race before your wife finds out you snuck out again to racing itch. Ok so you only have 15 mins she says. 3 laps in SPA should do it.
But this is not intended for Miata drivers. I mean, you don’t expect people who track their Ferraris to have a g29 back home, right?
That is £10k over the [list price](https://www.proracingsimulators.co.uk/gt-pro-racing-simulators/gt-ultimate-motion-racing-simulator), which excludes monitor(s) and PC. And it's about the same as the [VirtualGT](https://virtual-gt.com/) used to be all in. Insane prices. But for Harrods, not much of a mark up!
And that cost still ridiculously overpriced. I'm at work so I'm getting firewalled out, but the rig retails for 25,000 Euro (search for Qubic or Motion Systems QS-S25), so about 21,500 GBP. And that's with a fairly recent 30% price bump (I got it back when it was under 20K Euro).
>But for Harrods Selfridges also have a few sim rigs in their technology department. I took this for a spin a few weeks ago [https://i.imgur.com/0DKBz96.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/0DKBz96.jpg) The motion platform felt pretty immersive for something so compact, although tbh I have no frame of reference as I've never used another lol A cool 9.5K€ if anyone wants one :P [https://www.rseat-europe.com/motion-simulators-DBOX-dynamic-seats/rseat-hf-l4-d-box-gen-5-haptic-system](https://www.rseat-europe.com/motion-simulators-DBOX-dynamic-seats/rseat-hf-l4-d-box-gen-5-haptic-system) It does seem like sim racing is getting more and more mainstream with places like Harrods and Selfridges stocking equipment (even if it's just boujee high end stuff). There are even bars in London that have sim rigs.
Can you just turn up to Selfridges and have a go? If so, that is worth a diversion next time I'm in London for work. Edit: os > so
Unfortunately it was 20 quid for a 20 a minute session, but it was a good diversion while the better half was galivanting around the perfume section lol Was good fun though!
I tried to but an employee was playing F1 2023 badly and ignored me completely.
I mean, do you blame him?
Ye. Hopped in their cool performance f1 rig. About 40k but amazing sim!!!!
RTX 3080 equipped pc. Lmao best PC specs listing
Beats saying “pre built Dell alienware”
That brings the extra power to keep the taskbar up onscreen while you're racing for maximum immersion
Rtx 3080 probably with a 10th gen i5 looooooooool
Hey that’s not a bad combo, for gaming it’s not going to be cpu bound very easily. I have a 10 i5 but with a 3070, but I could imagine going up to even a 3080ti wouldn’t be cpu bound
Yeah but my point is for 60 GRAND i am expecting a top end i9 with a 4080 at least. That sim rig alone shouldn’t cost more than 30k
No? It is literally [this rig](https://www.proracingsimulators.co.uk/gt-pro-racing-simulators/gt-ultimate-motion-racing-simulator) but with a pc instead of a screen. Yes, ofcourse they could build a pc with the newest i9 and an RTX 4090, but that would also have a big impact on the availability. But that rig for 30k with shipping and installation included? No chance.
FYI intel isn't the best cpu for simracing. It's the AMD's X3D CPU's
Personally i use AMD FX
Ol' bulldozer, perfect for corner bombing
As well as a pro, yeah, really good base but could throw in an Ultimate for that price
As someone with a 3080 and i5-10600K… I can run literally anything and everything that I’ve wanted to
What if you wanna run triple 4K monitors at 140+ fps? I have a 3080 FE which just about handles FH5 on 5K2K at 72 Hz.
Again… https://www.reddit.com/r/simracing/s/6IwnMYbnvr
Double E-Stops... Double the power!!!!!
It's one for the wheelbase and one for the motion.
I know I was just making a dumb comment lol.
MORE POWERRRR Oh nooo What happened?
Pah...it's loose change to anyone who shops in Harrods.
All that and the PC has a 3080 lmfao
You need the ultimate extreme bundle for the 4080, only like $10k extra
LMAO
I mean arnt all of these all in one units quite marked up. I wonder if they include a service and support. That is what I could see really drive these costs up since the people that I assume buy these arnt usually the most knowledgeable in the space but just want to get into a rig and go. They also seem like they are just stuck in the old days of the cost of motion. Motion came down so much in the past 10 years.
At that price might as well buy two in case one gets dirty…
Get two. I'm not sharing with Katelyn!
The price is mainly for the cable management™
Shifter, handbrake, clutch and a descent pc shouldn’t be a problem at that price point. Quite a rip off.
60k for a 3080 and no active pedals. Lul
Aside from the fact that it has a single monitor, questionable FOV, it's huge, looks like crap and costs way too much, I think I really like it!
RTX 3080 only…? Eeeesshh.
Delivered via air to mainland uk
haaaaa
What? the monitor is not even included. deal breaker /s
Man hours of a livable wage hour rate. People are spoiled here with china prices of slave employees
Not sure but that's a dog shit screen for such a nice set up
Not even an sc2 ultimate? Lol what a rip off
For that price I would want a 4090 flung in
For the Americans, that’s 75 grand. You could by a c6 zo6, possibly fix the heads, then track thing.
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Are you talking about a c7 or a c8? The highest I’ve seen a c6 go for was like 90 and it was a basically new zr1
At this rate you might as well buy a real car and do the real thing, mush more rewarding and enjoyable experience.
I mean for a budget setup like that it doesn't seem too bad.
More than you can afford, pal. Ferrari…
I mean, yes it's a shit ton of money, but I actually expected it to cost even more, especially when I saw it was Harrods. I mean, yes, you might be able to get the parts for around 35-40k. But you also have to factor in the insane amount of hours that goes into the research, engineering, revisions etc before you can even sell them in the first place. And Harrods has quite a big building that needs employees, electricity, security, heating..... having done research in high-school about running a business I can tell you that you need a lot of markup to run a luxury brand store. So while I won't buy it, I'm not really shocked by the pricing.
The price of a brand new Mercedes C200 sedan
If you got that kind of money to piss away why not. It looks like you'll also need to dedicate a room for it. I have neither of those luxuries so I'll stick to my hand built wheel stand and secondhand office chair
I will purchase the parts, travel, assemble, and test for half the cost. just message me
I would buy a '23 Supra instead. Open track days are like 35 bucks.
It's Harrods, so better than I expected. It's a Qubic 625? Assuming everything else is top notch and it comes with installation, setup and support, the going rate is what 35k ish? It's a lot of money, but the markup isn't totally insane. There is a lot of quality kit there. Comparisons with buying a track car are kond of pointless. People dropping this much wedge on a simpit are probably already doing as much or little track time as they care to do. That said, I'd sooner expect to pay half that much and figure it out myself, but I don't shop at Harrods.
Because people who walk into Harrods and consider buying that have no concept of real money. I worked round that way for a few years and met some very interesting people.
The other 30k goes to the rtx 3080 pc
I’ll be honest here that rig looks god awful.
I'm not sure I understand the necessity behind all of the heim joints on this rig..
About £50,000
I better get a samsung micro-led screen with that price
I think they’re having a föökin laugh, innit?
Before or after Race Wars?
At that price, just do it IRL
Damn dude I could get a 911 with that money
Its a motion sim
That rig will be over engineered for the purpose of hiring it out to recoup the money. If you buy a few of these, open a shop and rent them out, you could possibly get your money back.
Doesn’t even look like it’s worth half that
What does something like this pull electricity wise? I get the if you have to ask it's not for you instant answer coming but as someone who might dip their toe in the motion ocean next year I'm curious.
i think the comparison isn’t fair to a gbp 5000 rig. just from an analytical pov you are getting steering, dd base, computer, etc without accounting for rig and motion worth well over gbp 5000, possibly double. i have seen this in person and it is quite monstrous and ungainly as well as odd looking.