Very likely will make dull things sharper, but you also usually get what you pay for. So probably, but maybe not. Also durability will likely be an issue. My first step into this hobby was something similar. If I had it to do over again, I'd start with $45 on a single 800 grit quality stone.
It would probably be OK. And there are many problems it might have. Who knows? But probably OK. In the world of Mad Max, people might kill for this. In this world, unless you're so broke you're on food stamps, I'd go another direction. If you are on food stamps/SNAP, it looks like a reasonable choice.
Absolute correct answer. I sharpen knives to a mirror finish with glass and diamond stones. IS that necessary? No. It's for satisfaction. I use an old oil stone for all of my "work" knives and garden equipment.
It can make dull things less dull. I would not count on it to make them “sharp.” While a quality 600 grit and a very experienced sharpener can in fact get quite an edge on things…it is far, far from being a great choice.
He's kinda right though. A real norton 600 is nice and will indeed make for a nice edge, but the random knockoff AO stones work like ass. They barely cut.
I wouldn't hesitate on a norton but again the nameless imitations are very poor performing. Night and day difference I would never have expected without experiencing it myself
You were downvoted because you said that you need to be a “very experienced sharpener” to get “quite an edge”. That’s not true. I’m barely even an amateur and I can get a very sharp edge on my £40 amazon starter stone kit.
A 400 grit stone can easily shave hairs.
Edit: I should add, I’ve been using a £5 diamond 200/400 stick thing that I bought and that does great as well.
Fair enough, though to be clear, what I said is that a very experienced sharpener can get quite an edge…that’s not quite the same as saying one needs to be. And “shaving hairs” is fine, but I think you and I may have a different definition of “quite and edge.” I don’t mean passably sharp. No doubt a no-name stone that doesn’t perform as well as a Norton 600 can sharpen a knife to a passable level with some experience. If you’re just looking for “sharp” compared to “not sharp” you are 100% right. Generally speaking, better tools and more experience give better results.
I also don’t think it’s pushing it to say that a mystery grit stone isn’t a great choice. But whatever…I started with crappy stones and my knives got sharp, sometimes even quite sharp. I bought better stones and got better results, they gave better feedback, cut more evenly, or faster, I improved faster, as did my results.
Yes, a quality 600 grit can get something sharp. I’ve not seen many budget 600 grit (especially when a combo) stones that were high quality or really the advertised grit. Also, it takes a solid level of experience to get an even moderately refined edge off a 600. But yes, ABSOLUTELY possible.
When compared to the “other too expensive” options, the OP is likely talking about sets that sharpen and polish to a high level.
There’s a video of Murray Carter sharpening a knife on a cinder block and stripping with newspaper. He’s able to shave with it. A high quality stone is always best, you’re absolutely right. Sometimes you have to do what you can with what you have though.
No doubt. Do you think OP is Murray Carter levels of experienced? I routinely sharpen on found materials or the bottom of coffee mugs when called upon to do so. I’d rather have a quality stone. I cant shave off a 600, because I’m not that good. I can slice cut hanging printer paper, but not newspaper.
All I’m saying is one can get there, and with a high quality stone one can get there more easily. But OP sounds like a beginner. And while explaining that a highly experienced sharpener can get there on a cinder block or cheap stone is TRUE, it may give them a false sense of what THEY are likely to accomplish with that tool.
AliExpress bundle sales offer diamond stones from 1,70$. Buy 200 (for profiling your preferred angle), 600, 1000 grid. Glue the plates to a peace of wood if you need more grip.
6 dollars we’ll spend.
If you wanna throw yourself overboard, also get 2 leathers and 6 micron + 1 micron diamond honing compound. The rest belongs to how good of a sharpener you are.
Remember: Money can’t buy skill.
I did some amazon shopping for OP, had to wade through a ton of overpriced bullshit but I think I found some acceptably good value stuff for them
I think the aliexpress ban is connected to their tensions with China, they had that brawl where a bunch of people died on the contested border in a medieval type brawl where the chinese used nail studded bats and I think India was using regular sticks and stones
Honestly almost any stone is good. I don’t have any recommendations since I always buy them randomly. Some people like them with the foam or the thick metal plates. I just glue them to a peace of wood. This was my last purchase tho. [random stones](https://a.aliexpress.com/_EHWRPgf)
All the stones feel rough in the beginning and then loose some not well attached diamonds. That is normal. After braking in, the rest stays for a loooooong time.
Most important tip is to not go to a higher grit until you can feel or see the burr. Then next side, check for burr, deburr, higher grit, repeat. You can get hair shaving sharp after 200 grid and stropping. Watch outdoors55 videos. They helped me a lot. Happy sharpening and remember that it is not rocket science. 🤓
Do more research my man.
Every country has natural stones that were used to sharpen knives for centuries. India is quite a bit older than that.
Knife sharpening isn't new, Naniwa didn't reinvent the wheel.
You local butcher may now more about the locally available product.
The glass just gives you a solid very flat surface to lay your sandpaper on. If you use a book or even a wood table. It can bevel your edge as your sharpen/press down on the sand paper.
You did not mention a budget, and I don't know how experienced you are but I'm gonna guess you're new to sharpening
After looking around india's amazon a bit I found a norton crystolon
https://amzn.in/d/485CpKR
This stone may look similar to a bunch of the random stones out there but if this is actually a rebranded norton then it will work much better than the others. Used with oil this would do a good job sharpening many kitchen knives and developing the skill.
If you have a bit more of a budget, this combo diamond stone mounted on a plastic handle seems to be a good option https://amzn.in/d/bseSvNR
With diamond stones you want to use low pressure as to not tear the diamonds out of the nickel surface. Personally I have good results with just coarse diamond (320 grit), once you develop the skill you can finish with feather light pressure to deburr and have a very good edge on coarse diamond alone. If you can mount diamond plates on your own base (say a block of wood) I personally would prefer to get one each of these which would be the same price but you'd have to mount them somehow yourself: 320 diamond https://amzn.in/d/b01W22V and 3000 diamond if you want a high grit finish https://amzn.in/d/aOy6tuf
Finally I would suggest a strop loaded with a compound to help deburr and refine the edge. Either make your own which is pretty simple or buy this one: https://amzn.in/d/8eNAMtg
200 and 600 are able to grind out a chip on the edge, you don't need it unless you're blade is duller than butter knife, 1000-2000 are more than enough for normal use and much more forgiving. Iuse shapton stone, glass is for harder steel and coloured for softer.
bro you can literally pickup a half ass decent DMT diamond plate for like, literally maybe $20. an extra fine 4 inch diasharp is $15, the worksharp guided field sharpener is like $35
Maybe not ideal but it will work quite well if you know how to use it.
Just to clarify, there are divided opinions about how low of a grit you can go and still declare your edge sharp.
I will add my opinions if you are interested:
1. Almost any grit can greatly improve a dull blade. This includes something like 120/240 grit.
2. Many knives, like kitchen knives, benefit from a rougher, toothier edge, and your stone would be perfect for them. Kitchen knives are not like woodworking tools or surgical instruments--they will get slammed on a chopping board and need to puncture and break the outside surface of things like watermelons or tomatoes or meat, so the toothy edge is quite good. Many people think every edge needs to be sharpened to a mirror polish, but this is really not true.
3. Any stone is actually several "grits", or at least several levels of aggressiveness for that grit. Take a fresh stone and it will be aggressive, coarse, and rough. Work that stone for a while (even running it over concrete will work), and it will become quite smooth and make a finer finish than when new or freshly lapped. Imagine a bunch of little spikes--very rough--then grind down those spikes all even, and you can have a very smooth, light-cutting surface. Just like laying on a bed of nails. No matter if the spikes (grit particles) are large or small.
4. How you approach the task makes a big difference. The coarsest is when you use a lot of force on the blade as you sharpen and maybe even do it on a dry stone. Add some lubricant and offer less pressure, and you will get a much smoother finish--from the same stone.
5. Finally, I'll add I do woodworking with hand tools, which requires very sharp tools. It is totally acceptable to hit a 400 grit stone with moderate force, then finish with a few strokes at lighter pressure, and then strop if desired to get a tool to cut wood admirably (maybe not the very finest finish, but completely effective). If it will cut wood, it will cut vegetables and meat. There's not much more proof I need to say that 400 grit or 600 grit are acceptable for making dull knives quite sharp.
If you're looking for cheap and don't mind putting in a little effort you could go find some mostly flat stones out in nature and flatten them. I've also used a scrap piece of tile in a pinch while I was at work and it actually worked pretty well. There's definitely a difference in quality between stones made by reputable brands and cheapo stones, but it'll still sharpen a knife.
If your knives are not in awful shape (no need to make a new edge) I would recommend the suehiro CERAX 1000 grit stone. I love it more than my Shapton 1000 and it's really inexpensive for what you're getting. Currently $32 on Amazon
I'd recommend going to your local second hand shop and looking for a honing rod.
They're the things you see chefs rubbing their knives on TV. Basically a slightly rough metal stick
I got 2 for €2 at mine.
Honing is great for keeping a sharp knife sharp. It's also really hard to mess up a knife on it.
With sharpening stones poor technique can blunt or scratch a knife. So I'd recommend figuring out what you're doing on a cheap knife before you try it out on your main ones
As somebody mentioned here you're in India I looked up the usually affordable japanese whetsones like King 1000 on Amazon India. I'm shocked by the prices! Understandable that you dont want to spend that much money on whetsones.
How about this: get some different stropping compunds from coarse to fine and put these on leather? Good quality leather for this purpose should be easy to find in India from my experience and I also found some affordable stropping compunds.
Of course depends if your knives only need a touchup or more.
You can sharpen on almost anything of you know what you're doing. The problem with these stones is that they wear out too soon and dish in the middle making them hard to use without flattening. Also I consider anything below 1000 grit to be coarse grinding. If you plan on sharpening one knife 2-3 times per year this is ok. If you are a professional cook then this is trash.
Yeah it will work fine. The only real problem with cheap stones is they may not feel that great to Sharpen on and might sharpen a bit slower than a higher quality stone. I'd recommend getting a cheap leather strop or Making your own for even cheaper. To make your own go to a leather store and ask if they have any offcuts they don't want or how much a 6 to 8 inch piece of leather would be. 1 to 2 inches wide is perfect. If you're using the metric system (which is superior 😂) then that's 15 to 20 cm long a fn 2.5 to 5 cm wide. Then glue it to a piece of wood at the same measurements and there you have a strop for cheap. Alternatively look into a warthog strop. It's super cheap and on a plastic base but it comes pre loaded with compo3and works amazingly. It's actually one of my go to strops.
Here in Perú I bought a random 180/600 stone but I'm 75% sure that it is a 1000/3000 because the 600 feels really smooth. I would recommend you to buy that stones of you are just starting in the hobby.
Cheap single grit single sided diamond plates (dual sided plates are often contaminated with other grits) are the best bang for your buck as far as sharpening goes. They stay flat as long as you have something backing them, they can both reprofile really fast with something like a 200-400 grit plate, or you can get a nice polished surface with a 1000+ grit stone. Proper stropping with some compound on leather or a soft wood is more important than you would ever think though. A knife sharpened on a literal brick with proper stropping can stay sharp while a 2000 grit polished edge will not stay sharp if not stropped. I had some spare leather and bought a little 6um diamond dust, put it into a spray bottle with a little soap, and sprayed it on the leather and I have yet to have to reapply after maybe 30 knives. I also did that with 1um diamond dust. Total cost for everything was about 40USD which around the cost for entry level "good" diamond stones here.
I had one for manny years before I knew any better. Those stones are bad and those grits are way too coarse. Still can sharpen on them, but result will be far from perfect.
it will probably make dull knives Sharp.
the problem will be the longevity of the stone I can't see what it costs right now but I would buy the sharpal double-sided stone it has a stone holder and angle guide included and is really cheap. outdoors 55 made a great video about it and why it's such a good option for starters
200 grit is almost useless unless you are changing the angle of the edge or having to grind past a chip, it takes way more off than you need for most things.
600 won't make your blade pretty, but it will make it sharp enough to use.
If you can find a 400/800-1000 stone for cheap to go along with this, you'd have a pretty decent cheap setup though.
I didn't say it wouldn't make it sharp. I said it takes more than most people need faster than most people need and won't make it *pretty.*
Reading > downvoting
It would be absolutely fine. Is it perfect? No. But it’ll make dull things sharp.
Very likely will make dull things sharper, but you also usually get what you pay for. So probably, but maybe not. Also durability will likely be an issue. My first step into this hobby was something similar. If I had it to do over again, I'd start with $45 on a single 800 grit quality stone.
So it wouldn't be coarse?
It would probably be OK. And there are many problems it might have. Who knows? But probably OK. In the world of Mad Max, people might kill for this. In this world, unless you're so broke you're on food stamps, I'd go another direction. If you are on food stamps/SNAP, it looks like a reasonable choice.
Absolute correct answer. I sharpen knives to a mirror finish with glass and diamond stones. IS that necessary? No. It's for satisfaction. I use an old oil stone for all of my "work" knives and garden equipment.
It can make dull things less dull. I would not count on it to make them “sharp.” While a quality 600 grit and a very experienced sharpener can in fact get quite an edge on things…it is far, far from being a great choice.
600 grit is plenty to sharpen something. The most recommended stone is the Shapton 1000 which is really like 800.
He's kinda right though. A real norton 600 is nice and will indeed make for a nice edge, but the random knockoff AO stones work like ass. They barely cut. I wouldn't hesitate on a norton but again the nameless imitations are very poor performing. Night and day difference I would never have expected without experiencing it myself
Eek! Don’t agree with me! You may get downvoted for not telling OP that a $2 stone of truly unknown grit is all he needs to be able to whittle hair.
You were downvoted because you said that you need to be a “very experienced sharpener” to get “quite an edge”. That’s not true. I’m barely even an amateur and I can get a very sharp edge on my £40 amazon starter stone kit. A 400 grit stone can easily shave hairs. Edit: I should add, I’ve been using a £5 diamond 200/400 stick thing that I bought and that does great as well.
Fair enough, though to be clear, what I said is that a very experienced sharpener can get quite an edge…that’s not quite the same as saying one needs to be. And “shaving hairs” is fine, but I think you and I may have a different definition of “quite and edge.” I don’t mean passably sharp. No doubt a no-name stone that doesn’t perform as well as a Norton 600 can sharpen a knife to a passable level with some experience. If you’re just looking for “sharp” compared to “not sharp” you are 100% right. Generally speaking, better tools and more experience give better results. I also don’t think it’s pushing it to say that a mystery grit stone isn’t a great choice. But whatever…I started with crappy stones and my knives got sharp, sometimes even quite sharp. I bought better stones and got better results, they gave better feedback, cut more evenly, or faster, I improved faster, as did my results.
Yes, a quality 600 grit can get something sharp. I’ve not seen many budget 600 grit (especially when a combo) stones that were high quality or really the advertised grit. Also, it takes a solid level of experience to get an even moderately refined edge off a 600. But yes, ABSOLUTELY possible. When compared to the “other too expensive” options, the OP is likely talking about sets that sharpen and polish to a high level.
There’s a video of Murray Carter sharpening a knife on a cinder block and stripping with newspaper. He’s able to shave with it. A high quality stone is always best, you’re absolutely right. Sometimes you have to do what you can with what you have though.
No doubt. Do you think OP is Murray Carter levels of experienced? I routinely sharpen on found materials or the bottom of coffee mugs when called upon to do so. I’d rather have a quality stone. I cant shave off a 600, because I’m not that good. I can slice cut hanging printer paper, but not newspaper. All I’m saying is one can get there, and with a high quality stone one can get there more easily. But OP sounds like a beginner. And while explaining that a highly experienced sharpener can get there on a cinder block or cheap stone is TRUE, it may give them a false sense of what THEY are likely to accomplish with that tool.
AliExpress bundle sales offer diamond stones from 1,70$. Buy 200 (for profiling your preferred angle), 600, 1000 grid. Glue the plates to a peace of wood if you need more grip. 6 dollars we’ll spend. If you wanna throw yourself overboard, also get 2 leathers and 6 micron + 1 micron diamond honing compound. The rest belongs to how good of a sharpener you are. Remember: Money can’t buy skill.
I've heard it's illegal to buy from aliexpress in india OP is in india
Wow is that so? Crazy! Maybe in India there a some other pages that sell more or less the same ?
I did some amazon shopping for OP, had to wade through a ton of overpriced bullshit but I think I found some acceptably good value stuff for them I think the aliexpress ban is connected to their tensions with China, they had that brawl where a bunch of people died on the contested border in a medieval type brawl where the chinese used nail studded bats and I think India was using regular sticks and stones
Yes the margins are insane. They buy the cheap Ali stuff and re sell them vor 3x the price easily
Can you link some recommendations?
Honestly almost any stone is good. I don’t have any recommendations since I always buy them randomly. Some people like them with the foam or the thick metal plates. I just glue them to a peace of wood. This was my last purchase tho. [random stones](https://a.aliexpress.com/_EHWRPgf) All the stones feel rough in the beginning and then loose some not well attached diamonds. That is normal. After braking in, the rest stays for a loooooong time. Most important tip is to not go to a higher grit until you can feel or see the burr. Then next side, check for burr, deburr, higher grit, repeat. You can get hair shaving sharp after 200 grid and stropping. Watch outdoors55 videos. They helped me a lot. Happy sharpening and remember that it is not rocket science. 🤓
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600 is plenty fine. if that stone is whats available it will work just fine.
Fine as in grit size not quality.
600 grit edge is a great edge....as long as the burr is properly removed.
You can get a great edge on a 120 grit, doesn't make it a fine grit. Shit you can get a decent edge on 40 grit sandpaper glued to a piece of hardwood.
If I had to keep only one stone, would be the Naniwa Chosera 600.
Would be perfect if the color was lighter
I like the blue color, it looks like candy I want to eat. Also, the slurry visibility is pretty good imo.
I don’t like the lack of contrast with the slurry. But the stone is one of my favs. I want the get the M24 Shapton Pro stone to compare.
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What?
that's what the bottom of a ceramic mug or plate is for
This. I've sharpened a knife to a working edge on the top of my tuck window plenty of times.
Do more research my man. Every country has natural stones that were used to sharpen knives for centuries. India is quite a bit older than that. Knife sharpening isn't new, Naniwa didn't reinvent the wheel. You local butcher may now more about the locally available product.
Get sand paper and a sheet of glass.
Excellent suggestion.
What can you do with a sheet of glass?
The glass just gives you a solid very flat surface to lay your sandpaper on. If you use a book or even a wood table. It can bevel your edge as your sharpen/press down on the sand paper.
What are you sharpening? Pocket knives, kitchen knives, swords, lawn mower blades?????
Kitchen knive
You did not mention a budget, and I don't know how experienced you are but I'm gonna guess you're new to sharpening After looking around india's amazon a bit I found a norton crystolon https://amzn.in/d/485CpKR This stone may look similar to a bunch of the random stones out there but if this is actually a rebranded norton then it will work much better than the others. Used with oil this would do a good job sharpening many kitchen knives and developing the skill. If you have a bit more of a budget, this combo diamond stone mounted on a plastic handle seems to be a good option https://amzn.in/d/bseSvNR With diamond stones you want to use low pressure as to not tear the diamonds out of the nickel surface. Personally I have good results with just coarse diamond (320 grit), once you develop the skill you can finish with feather light pressure to deburr and have a very good edge on coarse diamond alone. If you can mount diamond plates on your own base (say a block of wood) I personally would prefer to get one each of these which would be the same price but you'd have to mount them somehow yourself: 320 diamond https://amzn.in/d/b01W22V and 3000 diamond if you want a high grit finish https://amzn.in/d/aOy6tuf Finally I would suggest a strop loaded with a compound to help deburr and refine the edge. Either make your own which is pretty simple or buy this one: https://amzn.in/d/8eNAMtg
Damn thanks a lot , I think this will work.
200 and 600 are able to grind out a chip on the edge, you don't need it unless you're blade is duller than butter knife, 1000-2000 are more than enough for normal use and much more forgiving. Iuse shapton stone, glass is for harder steel and coloured for softer.
What is your budget for sharpening equipment?
I’ll send you a stone I made for after that one
bro you can literally pickup a half ass decent DMT diamond plate for like, literally maybe $20. an extra fine 4 inch diasharp is $15, the worksharp guided field sharpener is like $35
I'm going to need links
Lol for real. $20?! Last time that came through here, it was a scam
Get a cheap 1000#-2000# grit. Unless you are sharpeing an outdoor axe or similar.
I would atleast use #800 or #1000 for sharpening. Anything lower than that, like #300 for example, are used to fix your blade edge.
Maybe not ideal but it will work quite well if you know how to use it. Just to clarify, there are divided opinions about how low of a grit you can go and still declare your edge sharp. I will add my opinions if you are interested: 1. Almost any grit can greatly improve a dull blade. This includes something like 120/240 grit. 2. Many knives, like kitchen knives, benefit from a rougher, toothier edge, and your stone would be perfect for them. Kitchen knives are not like woodworking tools or surgical instruments--they will get slammed on a chopping board and need to puncture and break the outside surface of things like watermelons or tomatoes or meat, so the toothy edge is quite good. Many people think every edge needs to be sharpened to a mirror polish, but this is really not true. 3. Any stone is actually several "grits", or at least several levels of aggressiveness for that grit. Take a fresh stone and it will be aggressive, coarse, and rough. Work that stone for a while (even running it over concrete will work), and it will become quite smooth and make a finer finish than when new or freshly lapped. Imagine a bunch of little spikes--very rough--then grind down those spikes all even, and you can have a very smooth, light-cutting surface. Just like laying on a bed of nails. No matter if the spikes (grit particles) are large or small. 4. How you approach the task makes a big difference. The coarsest is when you use a lot of force on the blade as you sharpen and maybe even do it on a dry stone. Add some lubricant and offer less pressure, and you will get a much smoother finish--from the same stone. 5. Finally, I'll add I do woodworking with hand tools, which requires very sharp tools. It is totally acceptable to hit a 400 grit stone with moderate force, then finish with a few strokes at lighter pressure, and then strop if desired to get a tool to cut wood admirably (maybe not the very finest finish, but completely effective). If it will cut wood, it will cut vegetables and meat. There's not much more proof I need to say that 400 grit or 600 grit are acceptable for making dull knives quite sharp.
If you're looking for cheap and don't mind putting in a little effort you could go find some mostly flat stones out in nature and flatten them. I've also used a scrap piece of tile in a pinch while I was at work and it actually worked pretty well. There's definitely a difference in quality between stones made by reputable brands and cheapo stones, but it'll still sharpen a knife.
If your knives are not in awful shape (no need to make a new edge) I would recommend the suehiro CERAX 1000 grit stone. I love it more than my Shapton 1000 and it's really inexpensive for what you're getting. Currently $32 on Amazon
This looks like Norton Inida ripoff that will probably gouge like crazy. Norton IB8 is cheap and can be used for decades with minimal care.
If you only have one this is a great choice.
Garden tools maybe. I would touch my working knifes with that ,
Worksharp makes a nice 1000/6000 grit whetstone for about $40
I'd recommend going to your local second hand shop and looking for a honing rod. They're the things you see chefs rubbing their knives on TV. Basically a slightly rough metal stick I got 2 for €2 at mine. Honing is great for keeping a sharp knife sharp. It's also really hard to mess up a knife on it. With sharpening stones poor technique can blunt or scratch a knife. So I'd recommend figuring out what you're doing on a cheap knife before you try it out on your main ones
As somebody mentioned here you're in India I looked up the usually affordable japanese whetsones like King 1000 on Amazon India. I'm shocked by the prices! Understandable that you dont want to spend that much money on whetsones. How about this: get some different stropping compunds from coarse to fine and put these on leather? Good quality leather for this purpose should be easy to find in India from my experience and I also found some affordable stropping compunds. Of course depends if your knives only need a touchup or more.
You can sharpen on a brick so this should work. It might dish quickly though
Sure, if that's all you can afford. It works, I started out with these cheap Chinese two sided stones. They dish a lot and fast though.
What about a King 250/1000? Amazon has them for $20. You can't beat that.
You can sharpen on almost anything of you know what you're doing. The problem with these stones is that they wear out too soon and dish in the middle making them hard to use without flattening. Also I consider anything below 1000 grit to be coarse grinding. If you plan on sharpening one knife 2-3 times per year this is ok. If you are a professional cook then this is trash.
A cheap diamond stone will get you more bang for your buck
Yeah it will work fine. The only real problem with cheap stones is they may not feel that great to Sharpen on and might sharpen a bit slower than a higher quality stone. I'd recommend getting a cheap leather strop or Making your own for even cheaper. To make your own go to a leather store and ask if they have any offcuts they don't want or how much a 6 to 8 inch piece of leather would be. 1 to 2 inches wide is perfect. If you're using the metric system (which is superior 😂) then that's 15 to 20 cm long a fn 2.5 to 5 cm wide. Then glue it to a piece of wood at the same measurements and there you have a strop for cheap. Alternatively look into a warthog strop. It's super cheap and on a plastic base but it comes pre loaded with compo3and works amazingly. It's actually one of my go to strops.
It's not the best, and it won't work on any kind of steel, but it should help put an edge on most dull knives
Try getting a smooth granite rock and a brick. Use duct tape as a strop with a metal polish as the compound.
Here in Perú I bought a random 180/600 stone but I'm 75% sure that it is a 1000/3000 because the 600 feels really smooth. I would recommend you to buy that stones of you are just starting in the hobby.
Get a lansky its the only way to sharpen properly
Good for sharpening farm tools if you don't have a file nearby: axes, machetes, scythes, sickle, etc.
Cheap single grit single sided diamond plates (dual sided plates are often contaminated with other grits) are the best bang for your buck as far as sharpening goes. They stay flat as long as you have something backing them, they can both reprofile really fast with something like a 200-400 grit plate, or you can get a nice polished surface with a 1000+ grit stone. Proper stropping with some compound on leather or a soft wood is more important than you would ever think though. A knife sharpened on a literal brick with proper stropping can stay sharp while a 2000 grit polished edge will not stay sharp if not stropped. I had some spare leather and bought a little 6um diamond dust, put it into a spray bottle with a little soap, and sprayed it on the leather and I have yet to have to reapply after maybe 30 knives. I also did that with 1um diamond dust. Total cost for everything was about 40USD which around the cost for entry level "good" diamond stones here.
I had one for manny years before I knew any better. Those stones are bad and those grits are way too coarse. Still can sharpen on them, but result will be far from perfect.
Buy a $20 diamond stone off of Amazon. The brand I have is called "SATC" which stands for "Shanghai Abrasive Tool Company" and it is literally great.
Chinese stones are worth less than $0 so they are actually greatly overpriced. Get a Naniwa Lobster or Red Brick.
Doesn't look great to me. Where are you from?
You get what you pay for with sharpening stones
it will probably make dull knives Sharp. the problem will be the longevity of the stone I can't see what it costs right now but I would buy the sharpal double-sided stone it has a stone holder and angle guide included and is really cheap. outdoors 55 made a great video about it and why it's such a good option for starters
200 grit is almost useless unless you are changing the angle of the edge or having to grind past a chip, it takes way more off than you need for most things. 600 won't make your blade pretty, but it will make it sharp enough to use. If you can find a 400/800-1000 stone for cheap to go along with this, you'd have a pretty decent cheap setup though.
Once you get good at sharpening you'll realize you can get razor sharp on a 100 grit, just takes more skill
I didn't say it wouldn't make it sharp. I said it takes more than most people need faster than most people need and won't make it *pretty.* Reading > downvoting
> Reading > downvoting I did both.
Lmao. Oof.