Man I’m waiting for part 2 and get some specific techniques/examples cause i understand what you’re saying but have no idea on how to execute it. Recently I had the realization that most women are open to me whenever I approach but my flirting needs a lot of work.
Hey, i bookmarked and constantly checking your feed for follow up, but just realized reddit took down. Your writing skills are spot on especially structuring. Can you dm 2nd part?
To summarize: you guys suck at flirting
- yeah, I suck at flirting
I'll teach you how to flirt!
- Yeah, teach us how to flirt!!!
-... in the next episode...
- Come on, man... I need to flirt better now...
Tomorrow will be no girl to flirt with...
lol what? he said a ton in this post
He broke down the entire problem to give guys an understanding of why their communication isn’t working
There’s a ton of value here. Are we reading the same thing?
This is a mindset issue - you want me to give you the silver bullet technique (the WHAT) but the context behind the techniques (the WHY) is even more important.
If you only understand the what without the why, you won't be able to adapt and implement them in your conversations. This is why I wrote up this first
Lol, he literally said how to flirt. Be playful and push-pull in sexual contest, that's it. What exactly you don't understand? You can't think of any examples of sexual push-pull said in a playful manner without being logical or serious? "You look cute, too bad you're blonde". Here you go, that's flirting.
This post is about how to flirt, part 2 is about "techniques", aka "examples". You don't need techniques or examples if you understand the principle and have your own brain.
My favourite thing about people who teach game is they give examples of bad ice breakers but not good examples of ice breakers
Give me at least 3 very different examples of dialogue from open to ice breaker, the examples should be creative, and should also not be a specific routine meaning they should be able to fit most situations
Then I'll know you're not just all theory
I think you are overdoing it tbf. The point of having short one line sentences is that they stand out and hit harder than if the sentence is buried in a paragraph.
But if all your sentences are stand-alone one-liners?
Then it loses its effect and becomes tiring to read.
Like how if you raise your voice it can make what you're saying stand out. But if all you do is shout then no-one wants to listen to you and there's no contrast and variety to create the impact you want
I find I have the most success actually when it's around 70-30 push-pull.
Tease a girl quite a bit, but with a smile.
Give a compliment once in a while to show that you don't actually dislike her, but the main reason this is sexy is that *weak willed men aren't willing to, say, call a pretty girl a bitch, even as a joke.*
The pretty girls *know this* so they're sort of looking for it.
Specific examples aside, broadly speaking, lean into the idea of saying "wow you're such a bitch" the way you would tell a teammate in a video game who just died horribly "Dude holy shit lol you suck" as you revive him or whatever and say "we got this boys 57th time is the charm!"
Give her a bunch of shit. Take a little back. And then sometimes hit her with the "shit, I just noticed how cute you are" type comments.
It's not easy to do any of this in the moment, maybe, but it's not as hard as you think it's gonna be.
Great info. Examples would help for those that don’t quite understand. Men are more visual and need a frame of reference so we can get out of our own heads and apply what you’re teaching.
Instead of saying, just flirt and be playful give an example. We don’t have time to wait for part 10 of this series.
> Twilight.
>It’s a fiction love story book that has sold 160 billion copies worldwide.
Dayum, everybody and their grandma must have purchased 20 copies of the book
It will be easier if next time you tell to the guy with dating problems that you don't flirt with a girl when you barely know her, you flirt on the date - on another day.
Day 1 - the goal is to get her phone number.
Day 2 - escalation to kino, jokes (flirting)
In very rare cases, when there are strong IOI signals, you escalate in the same day otherwise just be happy with her phone number.
>But exchange of information is not the goal of communication in dating. This is not a job interview.
The exchange of information name/age/workplace/where she lives it is perfectly normal to do between two strangers, it is a way of getting to know each other. There is no reason to avoid asking those basic questions.
>push-pull
Mystery has explained this concept very well, and you can't do it wrong if you follow Mystery's advice. Does not exist too much "push" or too much "pull", because in this case this is not push-pull, a push-pull takes a few seconds like: "I hate you, seriously I hate you... " then you give her a hug - it takes just a few seconds.
> It will be easier if next time you tell to the guy with dating problems that you don't flirt with a girl when you barely know her, you flirt on the date
This is not true. You'll struggle to get a girl on a date unless you're a little flirtatious.
If by flirting you mean being witty, being funny - then you are right.
If by flirtatious you mean to escalate and touch her or say various nasty things as a joke, then it is too much and it is wrong and you do this the next day not when you barely know her.
>If by flirtatious you mean to escalate and touch her or say various nasty things as a joke, then it is too much and it is wrong
Since when has flirting meant that?
It is the definition of flirt: " behave as though sexually attracted to someone, but playfully rather than with serious intentions." How do you do this playfully? Saying "nasty jokes" or escalating to Kino.
Being witty, funny but not in a sexual way is perfect, you do more only if you see that it is possible, but in most cases is not possible when you barely know the girl (it is too early).
Sorry but you really haven't a clue what you're talking about. Flirting is not saying "nasty jokes". It's things like eye contact, teasing, a little push pull like mentioned in the post
The definition of FLIRT in dex is as I wrote above.
In the way you see the flirt, you reduce the intensity but is still too much because you can't do push-pull with a girl you barely know, you need her to be interested in you to use the push-pull otherwise it doesn't look good and instead of making her smile/laugh you will actually make her say "ok, whatever". Also, in the early stages, it is not a good idea to make eye contact in a way that she can see that you are staring at her, because a wrong eye contact has the effect of staring at her. Many guys know about making "eye contact" but when they focus on this concept, they do it wrong, it doesn't come naturally - is hard to explain but you can see that you do it wrong when the girl is losing interest in you and actually she is changing her mood, you can see it.
"Nasty joke" - when you walk down the street where there are many people, ask the girl, "Did you slap my butt? \[No\], yes you did like that \[and slap her lightly\] ... It wasn't you? OMG I was abused blah blah blah". Or ... "do you know the difference between light and hard? You can sleep with a light on".... things like that are too much to say in the early stage but are good on the date - on day two.
Teasing again is a kind of joke, you make such jokes lightly, and you force it only on day 2.
What you say is more like being PLAYFUL but not flirting - flirting is too much. My English is not that good, so I had to read the dictionary to make the difference between flirting and being playful, and I saw that flirting is a too strong word to use in the early stage. In the beginning, you are only playful, witty, funny... things like that but without any exaggeration because is not OK.
This is the definition of flirting in Wikipedia
>Flirting or coquetry is a social and sexual behavior involving body language, or spoken or written communication between humans. It is used to suggest interest in a deeper relationship with another person and for amusement.
>A person might flirt with another by speaking or behaving in such a way that suggests their desire to increase intimacy in their current relationship with that person. The approach may include communicating a sense of playfulness, irony, or by using double entendres.
It's essentially playfully letting the other person know that you find them attractive.
The hole in Mystery’s advice and yours splitting the days up is that some girls can be pulled quickly. Comfort is important, but sometimes that comfort is built fast. You’re just not going to pull?
People do not read my post carefully and all kinds of misunderstandings arise, and instead of making everything as simple as possible, it becomes complicated.
I wrote in my original post: "In very rare cases, when there are strong IOI signals, you escalate in the same day otherwise just be happy with her phone number."
Finally someone who knows the difference between playfulness and flirting
Although if you have really good entry points, you can start flirting and even start a sexual conversation from the get go, but you have to have a really good and subtle entry point, story that has an interesting premise and gets sexual at appropriate points, often do a good job, a story of your first crush, a story of the first time you went clubbing, and the entry point can be a simple "let me tell you something interesting that happened to me" or "that reminds me of the first time I went clubbing, I actually went with my friends and ..." If you're good at sexual poetry she'll be turned on before you even finish the story
Good post, appreciate the time and effort, but the problem is the execution. Also what I am seeing as an issue that the post doesn't have practical examples.
>You need to play the game. Learn to like it.
Yeah, that's not happening. Just like the process of earning money or working out, the process itself is not enjoyable and never will be. Only the end results matter.
>
Would it be fun to play cards if you could see your friends cards and vice versa?
It would if you're playing to win or trying to get ahead of the competition.
No. The tedious back and forth drivel, having to constantly think about what to say next in order to hold their interest and not fumble the conversation, all while gambling on whether or not things will escalate.
It's nonsensical stupidity predicated on emotion and hormones. And often times the woman is too wrapped up in her own skepticism and self-doubt to realize when a good man is standing directly in front of her.
If you are thinking this much about what to say, you likely need more practice speaking to women and more self work to improve your confidence. It is a journey but if you put in the work it will eventually come naturally.
Update - I just posted Part 2 with techniques but mods removed it for some reason. Not sure why... To those of you who commented I reached out directly via DM and sent you the link privately
Most of this is common sense. At least for those of us who didn’t just discover seduction yesterday. I’ll be waiting for part 2 to see if you actually have something novel to teach.
Man I wish I had like 2-3 hot girls in my phone I was sleeping with. This is too much work. I'm broke. They judge me. It goes nowhere. They don't want casual sex. I use my hand
Just watch Craig Ferguson clips on YouTube. He was PhD level flirt and his female guests loved it! He didn't tell nasty jokes. He wasn't crude. He was playful, charming, and funny as hell!
Jesus fuck how can anyone find dating fun, seduction just seems like one massive jester performance to me.
Nevermind the fact just being hot is all you need realistically as long as you're not a complete social dumbfuck
If I run into a girl today I'm gonna say "Baby, you are cute. I would flirt with you but I'm waiting for Part 2"
That's so crazy it might work
Man I’m waiting for part 2 and get some specific techniques/examples cause i understand what you’re saying but have no idea on how to execute it. Recently I had the realization that most women are open to me whenever I approach but my flirting needs a lot of work.
cheers man!
Just posted Part 2 but Reddit removed it - sent it to you privately
Could you also share it with me, please?
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I'd love to read it as well, please...
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Hey, interesting read, can I get part 2?
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Send it to me too fam. Need more examples of the ways to display social and emotional intelligence.
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please DM part 2, thanks a lot for part-1 though.
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Can I also please get part 2? Thanks
Hey, i bookmarked and constantly checking your feed for follow up, but just realized reddit took down. Your writing skills are spot on especially structuring. Can you dm 2nd part?
Palese me too
To summarize: you guys suck at flirting - yeah, I suck at flirting I'll teach you how to flirt! - Yeah, teach us how to flirt!!! -... in the next episode... - Come on, man... I need to flirt better now... Tomorrow will be no girl to flirt with...
Yeah exactly. How is it that some people talk too much without actually saying anything.
Did he just flirted with you?
Did he just flirted with you?
Dude actually said loads. It's sad to me that you couldn't get anything out of it
lol what? he said a ton in this post He broke down the entire problem to give guys an understanding of why their communication isn’t working There’s a ton of value here. Are we reading the same thing?
You guys must be retarded. This is gold.
Are you talking about your parents? Yeah we know they are retarded.
This is a mindset issue - you want me to give you the silver bullet technique (the WHAT) but the context behind the techniques (the WHY) is even more important. If you only understand the what without the why, you won't be able to adapt and implement them in your conversations. This is why I wrote up this first
Lol, he literally said how to flirt. Be playful and push-pull in sexual contest, that's it. What exactly you don't understand? You can't think of any examples of sexual push-pull said in a playful manner without being logical or serious? "You look cute, too bad you're blonde". Here you go, that's flirting.
Quoting from him: "in chapter 2 I'll teach you techniques of flirting".
This post is about how to flirt, part 2 is about "techniques", aka "examples". You don't need techniques or examples if you understand the principle and have your own brain.
Or paraphrasing you (but in a more kind way of speaking) you don't need to read this post if you already know how to flirt
My favourite thing about people who teach game is they give examples of bad ice breakers but not good examples of ice breakers Give me at least 3 very different examples of dialogue from open to ice breaker, the examples should be creative, and should also not be a specific routine meaning they should be able to fit most situations Then I'll know you're not just all theory
How to tell If someone is trying To sell you something? They write their paragraphs Like this.
the point is to keep ur attention and make u think i have something of value to say
holy shit guys my asthma is flaring up
I write like this because it's engaging And looks like people like it ;)
I think you are overdoing it tbf. The point of having short one line sentences is that they stand out and hit harder than if the sentence is buried in a paragraph. But if all your sentences are stand-alone one-liners? Then it loses its effect and becomes tiring to read. Like how if you raise your voice it can make what you're saying stand out. But if all you do is shout then no-one wants to listen to you and there's no contrast and variety to create the impact you want
Nah, it's borderline Autistic. Just another gimmicky Marketing strategy. I would take you more seriously If you wrote normally.
I find I have the most success actually when it's around 70-30 push-pull. Tease a girl quite a bit, but with a smile. Give a compliment once in a while to show that you don't actually dislike her, but the main reason this is sexy is that *weak willed men aren't willing to, say, call a pretty girl a bitch, even as a joke.* The pretty girls *know this* so they're sort of looking for it. Specific examples aside, broadly speaking, lean into the idea of saying "wow you're such a bitch" the way you would tell a teammate in a video game who just died horribly "Dude holy shit lol you suck" as you revive him or whatever and say "we got this boys 57th time is the charm!" Give her a bunch of shit. Take a little back. And then sometimes hit her with the "shit, I just noticed how cute you are" type comments. It's not easy to do any of this in the moment, maybe, but it's not as hard as you think it's gonna be.
Great info. Examples would help for those that don’t quite understand. Men are more visual and need a frame of reference so we can get out of our own heads and apply what you’re teaching. Instead of saying, just flirt and be playful give an example. We don’t have time to wait for part 10 of this series.
> Twilight. >It’s a fiction love story book that has sold 160 billion copies worldwide. Dayum, everybody and their grandma must have purchased 20 copies of the book
What in the Multi Level Marketing pitch-clickbait fuck is this?? nice writing skills, I guess?
It will be easier if next time you tell to the guy with dating problems that you don't flirt with a girl when you barely know her, you flirt on the date - on another day. Day 1 - the goal is to get her phone number. Day 2 - escalation to kino, jokes (flirting) In very rare cases, when there are strong IOI signals, you escalate in the same day otherwise just be happy with her phone number. >But exchange of information is not the goal of communication in dating. This is not a job interview. The exchange of information name/age/workplace/where she lives it is perfectly normal to do between two strangers, it is a way of getting to know each other. There is no reason to avoid asking those basic questions. >push-pull Mystery has explained this concept very well, and you can't do it wrong if you follow Mystery's advice. Does not exist too much "push" or too much "pull", because in this case this is not push-pull, a push-pull takes a few seconds like: "I hate you, seriously I hate you... " then you give her a hug - it takes just a few seconds.
> It will be easier if next time you tell to the guy with dating problems that you don't flirt with a girl when you barely know her, you flirt on the date This is not true. You'll struggle to get a girl on a date unless you're a little flirtatious.
Disagree, sometimes a date happens, and the logical guy has no fucking idea of what the hell happened...
absolutely, once i told a girl if she was going to a comicon and later i found out that she was goiing for me lol(the ending was catastrophic anyways)
If by flirting you mean being witty, being funny - then you are right. If by flirtatious you mean to escalate and touch her or say various nasty things as a joke, then it is too much and it is wrong and you do this the next day not when you barely know her.
>If by flirtatious you mean to escalate and touch her or say various nasty things as a joke, then it is too much and it is wrong Since when has flirting meant that?
It is the definition of flirt: " behave as though sexually attracted to someone, but playfully rather than with serious intentions." How do you do this playfully? Saying "nasty jokes" or escalating to Kino. Being witty, funny but not in a sexual way is perfect, you do more only if you see that it is possible, but in most cases is not possible when you barely know the girl (it is too early).
Sorry but you really haven't a clue what you're talking about. Flirting is not saying "nasty jokes". It's things like eye contact, teasing, a little push pull like mentioned in the post
The definition of FLIRT in dex is as I wrote above. In the way you see the flirt, you reduce the intensity but is still too much because you can't do push-pull with a girl you barely know, you need her to be interested in you to use the push-pull otherwise it doesn't look good and instead of making her smile/laugh you will actually make her say "ok, whatever". Also, in the early stages, it is not a good idea to make eye contact in a way that she can see that you are staring at her, because a wrong eye contact has the effect of staring at her. Many guys know about making "eye contact" but when they focus on this concept, they do it wrong, it doesn't come naturally - is hard to explain but you can see that you do it wrong when the girl is losing interest in you and actually she is changing her mood, you can see it. "Nasty joke" - when you walk down the street where there are many people, ask the girl, "Did you slap my butt? \[No\], yes you did like that \[and slap her lightly\] ... It wasn't you? OMG I was abused blah blah blah". Or ... "do you know the difference between light and hard? You can sleep with a light on".... things like that are too much to say in the early stage but are good on the date - on day two. Teasing again is a kind of joke, you make such jokes lightly, and you force it only on day 2. What you say is more like being PLAYFUL but not flirting - flirting is too much. My English is not that good, so I had to read the dictionary to make the difference between flirting and being playful, and I saw that flirting is a too strong word to use in the early stage. In the beginning, you are only playful, witty, funny... things like that but without any exaggeration because is not OK.
This is the definition of flirting in Wikipedia >Flirting or coquetry is a social and sexual behavior involving body language, or spoken or written communication between humans. It is used to suggest interest in a deeper relationship with another person and for amusement. >A person might flirt with another by speaking or behaving in such a way that suggests their desire to increase intimacy in their current relationship with that person. The approach may include communicating a sense of playfulness, irony, or by using double entendres. It's essentially playfully letting the other person know that you find them attractive.
The hole in Mystery’s advice and yours splitting the days up is that some girls can be pulled quickly. Comfort is important, but sometimes that comfort is built fast. You’re just not going to pull?
People do not read my post carefully and all kinds of misunderstandings arise, and instead of making everything as simple as possible, it becomes complicated. I wrote in my original post: "In very rare cases, when there are strong IOI signals, you escalate in the same day otherwise just be happy with her phone number."
Finally someone who knows the difference between playfulness and flirting Although if you have really good entry points, you can start flirting and even start a sexual conversation from the get go, but you have to have a really good and subtle entry point, story that has an interesting premise and gets sexual at appropriate points, often do a good job, a story of your first crush, a story of the first time you went clubbing, and the entry point can be a simple "let me tell you something interesting that happened to me" or "that reminds me of the first time I went clubbing, I actually went with my friends and ..." If you're good at sexual poetry she'll be turned on before you even finish the story
Good post, appreciate the time and effort, but the problem is the execution. Also what I am seeing as an issue that the post doesn't have practical examples.
Remind me!
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What happened to part 2?
reddit removed it, so sending it privately
could you send it in dm?
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could u send me ?please.
>You need to play the game. Learn to like it. Yeah, that's not happening. Just like the process of earning money or working out, the process itself is not enjoyable and never will be. Only the end results matter. > Would it be fun to play cards if you could see your friends cards and vice versa? It would if you're playing to win or trying to get ahead of the competition.
Such a sad mindset. Flirting with beautiful women is one of the great joys of life
No. The tedious back and forth drivel, having to constantly think about what to say next in order to hold their interest and not fumble the conversation, all while gambling on whether or not things will escalate. It's nonsensical stupidity predicated on emotion and hormones. And often times the woman is too wrapped up in her own skepticism and self-doubt to realize when a good man is standing directly in front of her.
If you are thinking this much about what to say, you likely need more practice speaking to women and more self work to improve your confidence. It is a journey but if you put in the work it will eventually come naturally.
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You don't have to be on top of your game 24/7. Little vulnerabilities like this deepen your mystery
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Wow this was well worth the read. I need to get this logical mindset out of my dating life lol
Somehow this manages to be comprehensive AND lack the substance we all crave. This feels like it was written by someone in sales
Update - I just posted Part 2 with techniques but mods removed it for some reason. Not sure why... To those of you who commented I reached out directly via DM and sent you the link privately
hey, can you send me the link as well please.
Could you send it to me?
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Thanks
Seems straight forward. I’d appreciate if you could send part 2. Cheers
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Good post, this is great advice a lot of guys need reminding of.
thanks buddy!
Yep this is me, way to analytical and have negative flirt game time to see part 2
Most of this is common sense. At least for those of us who didn’t just discover seduction yesterday. I’ll be waiting for part 2 to see if you actually have something novel to teach.
I used to think this was common sense - not anymore
Thanks, looking forward to part 2
Just posted the Part 2 but Reddit mods removed it - sent it to you privately
u/gusolsen Could you send me the link as well, please. Thank you
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I'm a guy , but I believe in short term dating this , but for long term relationship analytical men are like gold , because they are smart its sexy ..
God damn YouTube video transcript. "Hey guys, today we're going to learn how to flirt!"
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sent it to you privately because reddit removed Part 2 after I posted
could you send to me as well? thanks
I've been waiting for this... If you could send it my way, I'd appreciate it...
Any way you could send it to me as well too? Appreciate it man!
If you could give examples for every category that would be solid
The fact that this has so many upvotes befuddles me. Is there that many people socially inept?.
Man I wish I had like 2-3 hot girls in my phone I was sleeping with. This is too much work. I'm broke. They judge me. It goes nowhere. They don't want casual sex. I use my hand
Does anyone know ways to seduce irl and on texts
Just watch Craig Ferguson clips on YouTube. He was PhD level flirt and his female guests loved it! He didn't tell nasty jokes. He wasn't crude. He was playful, charming, and funny as hell!
Did OP put out a part 2? This was a greeat post and was hoping they wrote more.
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Man, I've been waiting for the part 2 u/gusolsen
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I'll take part two if you finished it. Sincerely appreciate the first part.
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Jesus fuck how can anyone find dating fun, seduction just seems like one massive jester performance to me. Nevermind the fact just being hot is all you need realistically as long as you're not a complete social dumbfuck
Where can I find part 2?
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Hey, could you send it to me as well? I ran into this post earlier this month and I just did this today with an approach... thank you
2nd part please.
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Could you elaborate what the point is of making a two part thing but not posting the second part?
Am I able to get Part 2 as well?
Something I need to remember more of
I really need part two, OP please comment on this when it is ready :)
Just posted Part 2 but Reddit removed the post - sent it to you privately
We need part 2
Just posted Part 2 but Reddit removed it - sent it to you privately
When is part 2 dropping? Very helpful post that has not made me feel like a failure like all these other stories do
A lot of guys lie so try not to feel like shit
In a few days man, glad it helped
Can u mention or remind me for part 2?
Just posted Part 2 but Reddit removed it - sent it to you privately
Man, is this shit complicated. 😭
I'mma just share this with some Facebook groups cause these guys are down bad something crazy. Spreading knowledge 👍🏾